COMMUNISM Deep down we all know this is a farce, so why do we wear masks

[Kathy in FL]

For the exact same reason we had/have people on this very forum that tried to shame people who refuse to wear masks. Who pull all but nearly worthless "proof" that masks work. Because some people, even normally sane people, get an idea in their head and it just has to work so they can blame others for their own fear and refusal to do the smart thing ... which is if you are that medically frail you have no business being any place else but in your home/bunker during any kind of infectious outbreak including anything normally associated with a vaccine such as flu and pneumonia.

Some people want other people to build their wall/bunker rather than do the necessary work themselves and take personal responsibility for themselves which means they wouldn't have other people to blame or complain about.

 

[Codeno]

I have only worn a mask once since this started, to go into a store that required one, for things that I couldn't get elsewhere. I couldn't really say whether I felt more like a sheep, prisoner or idiot, but it sure didn't feel right.

As I mentioned on another thread, I did buy a homemade mask at a garage sale, just to have something for establishments that make masks mandatory. It's cloth, covered with Chinese script.

 

[naturallysweet]

Amazing how many times people have to be told that the mask is not there to stop them from getting it. The mask is there to lower the amount of viral load they put into the air of the people around them, when they are asymptomatic or early symptomatic.

But no, it appears that so many Americans are completely ignorant fools who refuse to listen to anything outside whatever political bubble they are in.

but keep on with your strawman where you pretend that the masks are only for sterile environments and don't protect people. Because that claim has never been made!!

 

[Meadowlark]

It just demonstrates the brilliance of this ongoing hoax. All designed to throw and election.

 

[Sicario]

You win the second prize of the day. I hope you really like Marcel Marceau.

Oh, I do...I do!

 

[Meadowlark]

The funny thing is once Marcel Marceau actually made and LP album. It started out with his introduction and applause. Then it is followed by 20 minutes of silence with occasional clapping while Marcel does his mime routine, followed by more applause. Both sides of the LP are moments of applause followed by long periods of silence. People actually paid money for that!


The Best of Marcel Marceao by Marcel Marceao

 

[Meadowlark]

The idea of a Marcel Marceau record collection was a Robin Williams joke.

 

[Dozdoats]

“So Masks?

More proof it has more to do with the politics of control than science or health.

 

[Samuel Adams]

The covid19 virus escaped for a level 4 biolab facility. In that facility, researches wore total body suits that were similar to what the Apollo astronauts wore on the moon. Yet the virus escaped anyways. Then we are told to wear cloth masks and social distance. Do you honestly belief a fracking piece of cloth is going to protect you?

The worst thing you can do while wearing a mask is to touch it and your face. Yet I have seen the great Dr Fauci touch his mask and face on numerous occasions. On top of that he admitted "lying that masks were not beneficial because of shortages" early on and later changed his toon.

Simply put wearing masks is a form of social cohersion, an enforced group think and a means to increase psychological tension. Literally stirring the pot under high heat with the intention that it boil over and maximize chaos.

Simply put, do you know a better way to bring a democratic republic that to institute a state of fear and chaos. The only thing missing is that the progressives message of how they will solve the fear and chaos is way off the mark. That is still Trump's ace in the hole and why he will win. The enemies only other weapons left is stealing the elections in November. Even so they will pay a terrible price on the state and local level for the over the top antics. California is all but in open rebellion against Governor Newson over his fireworks ban. California is all but alight with millions of illegal fireworks.

Thoughts?

Great thread.

Thoughts ?

Absolutely.

America, especially, is being transformed into one massive, wriggling, writhing, PC, whining, sniveling Karen.

NEVER go full Karen.

 

[lilsparky]

Thank you, naturallysweet, and I'm posting to agree with you. Wearing generic masks in public is not going to prevent you from getting Covid. They are meant to help prevent the spread. Do they 100% contain everything you breathe out? Absolutely not. But they capture a significant amount. You can be positive, asymptomatic and contagious. Masks aren't about you, they are about helping to protect others. Along with the common sense handwashing, distancing.......

 

[Kathy in FL]

“So Masks?

More proof it has more to do with the politics of control than science or health.

Not just control, but disruption. There is a huge schism going on right now and not just between parties but within parties. The offended mask/no-mask debate is really ripping some people within the conservative movement apart.

This is due to a lack of courage and is causing a lot of suspicion of who is really willing to sacrifice and stand up for rights in general, not just the rights of a few. The understanding that your rights end where mine begin and vice versa is shrinking dramatically, assuming people even grasped the concept to begin with.

 

[thorr]

So actually your kinda right, if you’re properly wearing a non- vented N95 or higher rated paper mask or a proper fitted respirator. Then there’s a decent chance that you’re inhaling filtered air and exhaling filtered exhaust. And they also need changed quite often.

The respirators rock, but what a pita. If and when I believe there is a contagion that I’m scared of, I’ll mask up for real....

 

[Meadowlark]

We are a victim of being civilized and trusting. In the past our leaders appeared genuine, almost heroes at least to our perception. Recently, thanks to the internet, the real truths have been revealed and our so called leaders are seen as emperors without cloths and feet of clay.

They powers at be are now trying to close that loophole.

Too late, too many people are woken, and I mean the good woken, not the progressive woken. Even as I type the liberal state of California is in open rebellion firing off millions of illegal fireworks after Governor Newson cancelled all fireworks. In California of all places?

All these state governors and mayors are being seen more and more as petty dictators drunk with their own power. All of them backed with Soros money and toeing Nancy Pelosi's commands. A lot of them are going to be out of a job soon. Angry people remember.

 

[AlaskaSue]

Folks are getting pretty judgey out there, not that I really have any concern about that. I accidentally went the “wrong” direction down an aisle in the grocery, not even aware it was marked for direction until I was half-way down. Two people came in at the end where I was heading, glared at me over some pretty little paper masks and actually backed out of the aisle until I exited. I walked on and said, sotto voce, “Wow, folks sure can make ya feel bad for breathing.” A fisherman who was just a step ahead heard me and turned around to laugh with me over it.

I know cv is not a laughing matter....but people can be ridiculous. Many people have no understanding that even a good mask requires certain protocols to maintain efficacy for the wearer - to the point that when I see so many (including on tv news) with masks below the nose or even set on their chin, that I can but shake my head.

 

[Kathy in FL]

Thank you, naturallysweet, and I'm posting to agree with you. Wearing generic masks in public is not going to prevent you from getting Covid. They are meant to help prevent the spread. Do they 100% contain everything you breathe out? Absolutely not. But they capture a significant amount. You can be positive, asymptomatic and contagious. Masks aren't about you, they are about helping to protect others. Along with the common sense handwashing, distancing.......

This is incorrect. Read the OSHA website. Read the packaging on masks. Feeling that something should be true is not the same thing as it being true. Not even the mask makers are willing to legally say the masks work for or against. They are not proof against airborne bacteria and virus. Understand what that means. Understand that surgical masks are only designed for use in sterile environments and that once touched they are contaminated. And even properly worn non-vented N95 masks are only 90% effective. And all masks are single-use and single-use is not defined as a single day but as the point you put it on and fit it correctly to the point you touch it and/or take it off correctly. That is a single use.

 

[BUBBAHOTEPT]

I wear a mask to get into the store that requires it and bravely drop it below my nose for comfort. If I see others not wearing, it goes below my chin. Like they said in the old Soviet Union, they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work. And as for my Real masks, they are stored As they always have been for a Real rainy day...

 

[Walrus]

“So Masks?
More proof it has more to do with the politics of control than science or health.

Masks are part of what a friend calls the "corporate fake-out" - otherwise known as the look-good, smell-good types.

I've grown a beard since all this started just to demonstrate the silliness of mask wearing without fit testing. Not one person has told me - whenever I am required to wear one - that was I aware that a mask is completely nonfunctional unless it can properly seal?

Yes, I am, and I am more aware than just about anyone of the silliness of wearing a mask to protect myself or those around me. Fact is, the mask I wear is one with an exhalation valve, which protects me but not those around me. (No one has said anything about that either)

Air, being a fluid, always takes the path of least resistance when it flows. It's called physics, math, rheology and stuff.

Oh well....

 

[SAPPHIRE]

ALL THE MANDATES/RECOMMENDATIONS/FIAT DECLARATIONS WHICH ABOUND...IMO....only spreads disinfo, a groveling fear and submission to statements which later prove less than truthful and some outright lies...

This is the NWO/SATANIC agenda forcing all peoples to bow the kneel to baal.......IMO

Is it easy to refuse? NO not always.......Are there consequences which may bring sorrow, grief, and pain? Eventually...

these NWO folks have no bounds......darkness believes it can override all light/truth..........GOD HELP US TO BE DISCERNING AND COURAGEOUS

 

[Faroe]

Amazing how many times people have to be told that the mask is not there to stop them from getting it. The mask is there to lower the amount of viral load they put into the air of the people around them, when they are asymptomatic or early symptomatic.

But no, it appears that so many Americans are completely ignorant fools who refuse to listen to anything outside whatever political bubble they are in.

but keep on with your strawman where you pretend that the masks are only for sterile environments and don't protect people. Because that claim has never been made!!

The straw man goes either way. My point (again) is that a wearer touching his dirty damp mask is spreading his germs on everything he touches in a public place. Others will pick up his germs on those surfaces. Hand sanitizer would be a more effective option.

Others have as much right to be out and about as you do. If you don't like the viral load in the air, YOU need to wear the mask. By your standards, there is no objective safe level of risk, and everyone should always be required to wear one, from now, into the indefinite future, in order to protect YOU.

 

[Meadowlark]

My last take is, if you feel the need to wear a mask then by all means wear your pacifier and security blanket with your teddy bear. If it gives you psychological support then wear the darned thing. But don't do it out of fear of social coercion and karens yelling at you. And shame on all the petty dictators who are forcing their state and local citizens to wear such useless apparel.

 

[lanningro]

Makes me feel like a real bandit.

 

[lilsparky]

This is incorrect. Read the OSHA website. Read the packaging on masks. Feeling that something should be true is not the same thing as it being true. Not even the mask makers are willing to legally say the masks work for or against. They are not proof against airborne bacteria and virus. Understand what that means. Understand that surgical masks are only designed for use in sterile environments and that once touched they are contaminated. And even properly worn non-vented N95 masks are only 90% effective. And all masks are single-use and single-use is not defined as a single day but as the point you put it on and fit it correctly to the point you touch it and/or take it off correctly. That is a single use.

I'll try again. Nope, they don't filter airborne virus or bacteria. The point of wearing a mask in public is to cut down on the amount of potentially virus and bacteria contaminated saliva (other things) that get launched by talking, breathing, coughing......Emphasis on cut down, they are clearly not a tight fit...

 

[pinkelsteinsmom]

Even before Texas made it mandatory, almost every local business required you to wear a mask to go inside. Most of the grocery stores here recommended or required you to wear a mask before it became mandatory, now all do. Business owners I know, made it mandatory for employees to wear a mask. Why, because homeowner customers would not allow entry into their homes without one on. Do I agree with the mask mandate, no. But, if I have to wear one in order to keep a job going into someone's home or business, then I will have to wear a mask.

Stop going to their stores for two weeks, you'll see a quick 180. If they can mandate this, they can and will mandate anything.

 

[Mikiekimi]

My last take is, if you feel the need to wear a mask then by all means wear your pacifier and security blanket with your teddy bear. If it gives you psychological support then wear the darned thing. But don't do it out of fear of social coercion and karens yelling at you. And shame on all the petty dictators who are forcing their state and local citizens to wear such useless apparel.

Feel better now?

 

[Catnip]

It doesn't seem worth it to make a fuss over it. This too shall pass.

Some stores [Costco] you can't enter without the mask. Ok....choose. For me, it is a short visit, get what I want and get out. There are more important things to fight over.

Yes, I know, it seems like an acceptance of something superfluous, unnecessary and downright disgusting.

I feel like yelling, "I can't breath."

For the most part people seem to be wearing them less and less. For our little household, we just stay home!

Why is it that people don't know the difference between breath and beathe? I've seen it used correctly 2 times in many months.

 

[Meadowlark]

Feel better now?

Yes I do. now group hug

 

[Mikiekimi]

Yes I do. now group hug

You need to mask up first

 

[Meemur]

My light cloth mask is merely "Karen Repellent" (hat tip to Blacknarwhal) . . . It keeps me invisible when I run through HyVee.

Like The Mountain (post up thread), I'm focused on gathering supplies quickly. I have no desire for run-ins with karens or soccer moms. I want to get in and get out. Dwelling on politics is unproductive right now. I have a pantry to finish stocking.

 

[Samuel Adams]

Feel better now?

I do.

 

[Troke]

nd even properly worn non-vented N95 masks are only 90% effective

Ah yes, the old purity argument. If it is not 100% effective, we don't want it.

 

[Helpful]

Living in Northern Virginia we are required to wear a "face covering."

So I do.

I have a face covering and I do wear it......

on my WRIST.

 

[Samuel Adams]

Sixteen and forty odd:

Some uncomfortable truth for the Covid Karens and their mask fetishes, in plain English;

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PIQnwGlxpRM#action=share

 

[Kathy in FL]

I'll try again. Nope, they don't filter airborne virus or bacteria. The point of wearing a mask in public is to cut down on the amount of potentially virus and bacteria contaminated saliva (other things) that get launched by talking, breathing, coughing......Emphasis on cut down, they are clearly not a tight fit...

And let me try again. Stop listening to the asshats on TV and in your local government and actually read the OSHA guidelines for mask effectiveness. IF this virus is airborne - and I hope we can all agree that it is - the spittle and snot are only going to be mildly stopped by the masks being used. Because the spittle and snot penetrates cloth and surgical masks. Do surgeons do surgery while sneezing and coughing ? No. Because the surgical masks they wear are insufficient to prevent passing such from passing to their patients and co-workers. Surgical masks only work in sterile environments for short periods of time. Once they become moist ... which they do from breath and environment ... they become permeable in both directions.

Additionally, this virus is not being passed by sneezing and coughing but by casual interaction with regular air flow. That means it is airborne and masks do not stop airborne virus and bacteria going in either direction.

And furthermore to that, most infections are actually being caused by cross contamination which masks help with none at all.

So once again, the only solution for those that are that medically fragile is to stay home, DON'T GO OUT, DON'T INTERACT WITH ANY CROSS CONTAMINATION, and KEEP YOUR HOME SANITIZED AND CLEAN AT ALL TIMES. Quite frankly expecting others to build your bunker/wall for you is unreasonable and unrealistic. The cross contamination is the real issue and masks won't help. Gloves and hand sanitizers might slow it down a little but it depends on how often you change gloves, the quality of gloves you use, how you put them on and take them off, how and where you dispose of them.

There are reasons for those kinds of protocols in medical situations. However, if they were fool-proof we would not have things like MRSA in hospital settings.

What the current crop of mask ordinances are is wishful thinking and that's being kind about it. And yes, I worked in a medical/mental health/residential setting and had to take courses on infection control. I been out of the game for a while but the science hasn't changed. The infections have only gotten stronger.

 

[Codeno]

Some uncomfortable truth for the Covid Karens and their mask fetishes, in plain English;

Oh please Samuel, not that plain English thing - might mess with my "go to" paradigm.

Thanks, very good video, & thanks also to Kathy in FL, for your heavy lifting here.

 

[Cardinal]

Had to go into Whole Foods (Amazon) today for some stuff. Was told at the door masks were mandatory. I put one on to get thru the door, took it off right after and got my stuff as quickly as possible.
When checking out I couldn't understand the cashier (she was wearing hers) and she apologized to me for having to wear one.
Meanwhile, Walmart has taken down it's barriers for the most part.

 

[Samuel Adams]

Oh please Samuel, not that plain English thing - might mess with my "go to" paradigm.

Thanks, very good video, & thanks also to Kathy in FL, for your heavy lifting here.

My pleasure.

And, I’m gunna say it......

Kathy in FL is AWESOME !!

 

[Dr. G]

Oh please Samuel, not that plain English thing - might mess with my "go to" paradigm.

Thanks, very good video, & thanks also to Kathy in FL, for your heavy lifting here.

Listen folks, I said this once a few months, this is the biggest fraud ever perpetuated on the human race.
We have seen patients come into the office where I swear they have been wearing the same mask for over a week, what we do is give everyone a new procedure mask, (which in itself is a joke). We, in the office, and some other doc's were talking, that what we are going to start seeing is bacterial pneumonia, specifically Legionnaire's disease, which is serious, a take notice condition...guess what my friend just saw his first case of it in last week. That WILL KILL YOU!!!!! got that.
Corona mortality/morbidity for people under 45 years is as close to zero as you can get, bacterial pneumonia you got my attention, it probably is going to kill you or make you wish you were dead.
ALL masks/filters have two purposes: to trap particulate and to concentrate the particulate or its by-product(s). Think of an oil filter or A/C_furnace filter.

Don't get me started on social distancing, a concept started in 2006, under Bush, in response to the Avian flu, by a 14-15 year old girl. It was rejected then and should have been rejected today.

Let's smarten up people...we are being played.

 

[Troke]

Listen folks, I said this once a few months, this is the biggest fraud ever perpetuated on the human race.
We have seen patients come into the office where I swear they have been wearing the same mask for over a week, what we do is give everyone a new procedure mask, (which in itself is a joke). We, in the office, and some other doc's were talking, that what we are going to start seeing is bacterial pneumonia, specifically Legionnaire's disease, which is serious, a take notice condition...guess what my friend just saw his first case of it in last week. That WILL KILL YOU!!!!! got that.
Corona mortality/morbidity for people under 45 years is as close to zero as you can get, bacterial pneumonia you got my attention, it probably is going to kill you or make you wish you were dead.
ALL masks/filters have two purposes: to trap particulate and to concentrate the particulate or its by-product(s). Think of an oil filter or A/C_furnace filter.

Don't get me started on social distancing, a concept started in 2006, under Bush, in response to the Avian flu, by a 14-15 year old girl. It was rejected then and should have been rejected today.

Let's smarten up people...we are being played.

You suggesting that hugging is OK?

Interesting.

 

[Samuel Adams]

You suggesting that hugging is OK?

Interesting.

I didn’t see “hugging” anywhere in his post, expressed or implied.

Strawman snark, much ?

Interesting.

 

[Dr. G]

You suggesting that hugging is OK?

Interesting.

Transmission is most likely fecal/oral NOT aerosol/airborne so NO hugging unless you wash your hands!!!! Got it. Or should I repeat it