GOV/MIL Something big going on at Federal building/Wilshire L.A.?

summerthyme

Administrator
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Israeli? Yep... it's Hebrew for Moses. But, that's as a first name...

Could be it would have been Joe Ben Moshe (Joe, son of Moshe)?

Summerthyme
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Somebody call Skip1 and have him blast some Rammstein at the VW.

Latest image of the standoff,
 

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Breeta

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http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_13054596

A Westchester man suspected of making a threat against the White House poses no danger, but sometimes becomes loud and profane when he fails to take his medication for mental illness, his neighbors said today.

"The guy is harmless, but once he gets off his meds he is screaming profanity," said one neighbor.

Neighbors and his mother identified the man as Joe Moshe, 56. Moshe fled from U.S. Secret Service agents and Los Angeles police officers Thursday, leading a chase in a 2002 Volkswagen Beetle up the San Diego (405) Freeway.

He stopped near the Federal Building in Westwood and is engaged in a standoff with law enforcement officers.

Asked why her son might threaten the President Barack Obama, 90-year-old Julia Moshe said, "I don't know. He is a sick man. Depressed."

The standoff began shortly after 10 a.m., when police tried to stop Moshe near his home in the 8300 block of Creighton Avenue. Police have not publicly identified him.

Neighbors who did not want to be identified said Moshe "sounds like he could be dangerous," but he has never caused any significant trouble for them.

"He's got issues. He doesn't take his medication, he doesn't do that well," a neighbor said.

Moshe, who does not work, inherited the house when his father died. His mother lives in Beverly Hills.

She was watching the standoff on television.

"He is not giving up. I don't know," she said. "I am a very old lady. I'm a sick lady."

Neighbors said he never posed any threats to them.

"Most of the time we just hear him yelling," a neighbor said. "For the most part he is quiet."

Neighbors said Secret Service agents in suits and driving government cars appeared on the street Wednesday night.

They tried to speak with Moshe, but he did not answer the door.

The agents asked neighbors questions about Moshe instead.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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So are they still screwing around and not taken his ass out of the car? I got bored with the up-to-the-minute reports once I realized the guy is not gonna blow anything up and was simply running from the cops.

Him entering a Fed building may have been purely accidental.

"Oh! Here is a big building parking lot-let's pull in!"
 

sherbar92

Generally warm and fuzzy
CBS2 at 400 PM said it looks like they are gearing up for some big operation, and that supposedly LAPD may helicopter his sister in to try to reason with him.
 

nharrold

Deceased
KTLA feed is in and out now.

The dreaded red Beetle,

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Probably packed full of milk swilling Mennonite extremists. :spns:

I guess I'm confused; I thought the VW was blocked in the Federal Building parking lot. In the above picture, it appears to be out in a street. Although I can't figure out what that roof-looking thing in the foreground is doing there.
 

Tigerlily

Senior Member
I hear them talking to him through a bullhorn. Can't make out much, but I did hear them offer him cigarettes. Sheesh, they aren't getting anything done.
 

nharrold

Deceased
Maybe the robot is there with a taser but he wont roll down the window so it can't follow through?

So, he'll be arrested for driving with right wing symbols on his car and not complying with officers and failing to yield to the tasering robot.

What else?

Oh, yeah, and driving a red VW Beetle. There has to be some charge for that.

Mike

DWP: driving while protesting
 

nharrold

Deceased
at least 3 big black vehicles there now...

oh, and those guys on the roof have a great spot to watch.

Mike

If those 3 big black vehicles are Suburbans, that guy is in a heap o' trouble, now! They've sent the DNC goons to nail his terrrorist ass for speaking too loud at a "Town Hall"!
 

Midlander2

Senior Member
Fox News Live link reported that the back window has been penetrated (with non-lethal means) at some point - crack is visible to the reporter in the helicopter. Trying to negotiate without success.
 

sherbar92

Generally warm and fuzzy
CBS2 also reporting the right rear window is to be broken, and "another phase" to be initiated after that, though no one is saying what that phase is to be.

Tear gas??

Figured they would do something soon; it's almost 500 PM and quitting time, lol.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Fox News Live link reported that the back window has been penetrated (with non-lethal means) at some point - crack is visible to the reporter in the helicopter. Trying to negotiate without success.

Careful with any Fox live coverage.

Equivalent to 6 ten year old girls at a pajama party with Geraldo or Shepard as the head cheerleaders.
 
I hear them talking to him through a bullhorn. Can't make out much, but I did hear them offer him cigarettes. Sheesh, they aren't getting anything done.

but.......there's no smoking on federal property I thought. I know I just woke up but I am confused. How did he manage to pull into the Federal building parking lot without being stopped?
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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"Most of the time we just hear him yelling," a neighbor said. "For the most part he is quiet."

Typical idiot neighbor comment when a microphone is thrust into their gapeing piehole.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Oh for crying out loud-they can shoot dogs, tazer women and rape tropical fish but not figure out how to get one lunatic out of a freaking VW?!?!?!?

Set the ****er on fire and I promise he will exit.

If not the standoff is ended at any means.

What is he doing? Trying to negotiate a sex change for the other guy?
 

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sherbar92

Generally warm and fuzzy
CBS2 local news is reporting that the man's home is to be searched for bomb-making paraphernalia, and that they are going into a "holding pattern" at the scene until they determine if he has capability to have made a bomb.

Results of the home search will determine what they do next on-scene at the car.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Oh for crying out loud-they can shoot dogs, tazer women and rape tropical fish but not figure out how to get one lunatic out of a freaking VW?!?!?!?

Set the ****er on fire and I promise he will exit.

If not the standoff is ended at any means.

What is he doing? Trying to negotiate a sex change for the other guy?

I just knew somebody here was going to "Oh Snap!" soon.


:lkick:
 

onetimer

Veteran Member
CBS2 local news is reporting that the man's home is to be searched for bomb-making paraphernalia, and that they are going into a "holding pattern" at the scene until they determine if he has capability to have made a bomb.

Results of the home search will determine what they do next on-scene at the car.

wow that should have been done a long time ago
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Lot's of SWAT type folks behind the black trucks.
 

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Monkeywrench

Land Owner
If this is a terrorist and not a tourist, and he is threatening the White house from LA, someone ought to tell him his GPS is off by a few 1000 miles.

Then again he may have threatened to attend a Town hall organized by the White house and wear a "Code Pink" not to be confused with Code Red tutu, and the White house felt "threatened by this overt act"

I sure hope there is more to this story than appears to be right now.

/Rant

HeliumAvid

:applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud:
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
This must be the distraction to keep people from emailing the house about the Obamahealth plan.......keep everyone busy watching the red tin can in LA.......and they won't be able to email congresscritters....

Sigh....
 
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