[wot] Something tells me this time is different .

[John H]

I must be getting really thick.

Why do you say Florida cost Gore the election?

If Gore HAD CARRIED HIS OWN STATE, wouldn't he have won the election? Obviously, to me at least, the people that KNEW HIM BEST didn't think he would make a good president.

Dems sound like a whiny bunch of sore losers to me.



John

 

[Vden-tu]

“I do not see clearly what lies ahead, or how we will get there. But, this much I know: My own patience with our brethern from the Left is being strained. All of this cannot end well.”

Your right, all of this cannot end well, nor will it. There will be mass sweeping arrests of hundreds of thousands of Americans (and elsewhere) who are considered “domestic terrorists”. And if most of America is of the mindset that I’ve seen on this board then we are doomed as a country. Americans will either cheer these actions or will be too fearful to raise their voices.
What is a domestic terrorist?
Your guess is as good as mine, but I’d say off the top of my head: It’s those freethinkers who question the party line or motives of the government and or the Nwo, those who practice or seek alternative medicine, those who homeschool, those who refuse to be disarmed, those who turn their backs on State sponsored organized Christian religion and seek God on their own. Those who try to live outside of society or under the spotlight by growing their own food, using cash and or hoarding or trying to barter... to name a few.
The train has left the station folks, nothing and I mean nothing, will stop what is about to befall us.

 

[housemouse]

Housemouse,

"It's more like the Summer of 1860.

Care to respond to my thoughts? Do you like the Judicial Branch picking a President? Five guys/gals who have usurped final authority over the Constitution. The democrats forced the issue, but the republicans fought on their territory."

David, it seems pointless to argue over the Florida debacle. But, this is what I saw take place there.

I saw the media calling the election for Gore before all of Florida's polls had closed.


I saw democrats trying to get absentee ballots of the military not counted, as they assumed these votes would favor Bush. I saw democrats claiming that the elderly in Palm Beach were too addled to figure out how to punch a ballot. I saw these same democrats peering closely at ballots trying to find a way to put them in another column. I saw democrats trying to keep republicans from observing recounts.

I saw the Florida Supreme court disregarding Florida election laws in an effort to give the recounts time to toss the votes back to the democrats. Then, thank God, the Supreme Court of the land came in and decided that the Florida Supreme court was wrong in it's decision to override Florida's election laws.

Endless efforts on the part of the "objective media" finally concluded that Bush had in fact won in Florida.

The reason we have courts is to decide these matters. Are you in the democrat camp who would use the courts to run roughshod over the legislatures when it suits your ends, but call them corrupt and meaningless when they decide against your issue of the moment?

For the record, we do not have a pure democracy, and you should be very grateful for that. We have a republic, and three separate branches of government. The courts are there to apply the laws passed by the legislative branch, not to deny, overturn, or re-interpret them according to the will of pressure groups.

 

[lifestuff]

Thread drift, hu ! whats the point of disscusion anyway.

These boys ! Get all there BS from hipe pumped into there pee sized brain from
TV and there cronys. You are simply IDIOTS !

And they are>>>>> Invar, jlee, buffdawg, cygnus,housemouse

Ask yourself this question today. NO don't start plannig your remark yet
ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTIONASK, YOURSELF THIS QUESTION,ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION,ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION,ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION,ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION,ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION

Would the Government use propaganda to control your perception of
politics,freedom and is there censorship ?

If you think so ? Then how do you know your not being controled ?
and how do you know your right without any facts !
Lets see some facts out of you boys instead of your blind heated responce !!!!!!
That contain zero FACTS...HUUU HUUUU HHUUUUUUUUUUU

Good Day.

 

[housemouse]

Let's see. Your response to my post, among others, is to call me a pea-brain first off.

Then you tell me that I am an unthinking victim of government propaganda, and imply that I am too stupid to know this.

Then you accuse me of giving no facts in my posts.

That is considered an ad-hominem attack, and is not considered a valid way of maknig a point. Maybe you better try again.

Posts like yours are why I am more nervous than ever about the state of our nation.

Are you a Christian by any chance? If so, one would not know it by your level of discourse.

 

[eXe]

[ADMIN]

Folks, can we please not start in with name calling.. I know issues get heated but there is a way to say what you want without the names.. and while we are at it, can we get the conversation back on topic please?

 

[buff]

so your whole point is i'm a peabrain...and then more lefty shouting...

good post!

you prove my earlier point about no substance very well.

 

[Sharon]

[ADMIN]

Folks, can we please not start in with name calling.. I know issues get heated but there is a way to say what you want without the names.. and while we are at it, can we get the conversation back on topic please?

Yes, please. The board seems so full of anger right now. On one thread the Americans and Canadians are at it. And, Canada is our neighbor. It so saddens me to see this.

Seems like a majority of the posts end up being political bashing, no matter how they started out. What's going to happen in the days ahead if we've already started this?

I really, really enjoy this board and am deeply saddened to see so much bashing right now. Democratic, Republican, Conservatist, Liberal, American, Canadian, just plain fighting.

I don't watch TV anymore (the last month or so...before that it was on everyday all day) because of the political bashing. Then, I come here and it's the same.

There's so many, many good people here with so much valuable information, but it's getting lost int he bashing.

Sorry, I'll get off my soap box now.

 

[y2kmisfit]

These side discussions may be more "on Topic" than appears.

Let's say something BIG does come down soon.

Let's say the leftists then start yelling that Bush did it to get re-elected.

THEN the second civil war begins.

Invar- I will gladly serve under your command

 

[Bearded Weirdo]

Greg, I think the terrorists do have something big planned, but I also am not convinced that they will succeed.

It is also quite revelaing to see how paranoid some members of the fringe left are getting.

 

[lifestuff]

I said pee brain not Pea Brain LOL

I am laughing at your responce LOL

I am sorry. Your right , I forgot to put my rose colored glasses on before
I began reading your comments about my oppinion.

It will be ok the powers that be will cause enough debate over what went
wrong so that most of yu'allll will be fighten for anything that sounds good.
KILL KILLL KILLL yeppppppp.

PS For the last time (( WHY don't )) you check out what were talking about?
Look for the truth while ( for one example ) NORAD SHUT DOWN on 911?

I have been in NORAD and it never ! NEVER ! shuts down , so while did it?
Sure , I know Osama got some high up connections at NORAD,, Ya thats it..

Also if I thought your brain was the size of a PEA I would have exagerated and
said the size of a quark.

Peace be with you,, Oh Ya go ahead and stab away.

 

[INVAR]

Housemouse, you warm my heart with your articulate posts and your masterful replies to the resident Lefty loonies. Your first reply to Leftstuff was a master stroke - well done, as his vapid rebuttal proves.

Since it has been requested that this thread get back to the topic of feeling troubled by the latest terrorism dots - I am moving the heated exchange in a reply to several of you to a new thread: (WOT) The Great Right vs Left Debate.

It is here: http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?p=1019102#post1019102

 

[White Sunlight]

Bottie,

Right on with Bohemian Grove. As my football coach always said "don't look at all those jukes, the hips never move, tackle the hips".

We have got terror in the air but it is all a diversion from praying. Pray unceasing by habit and the way will be clear for you.

White Sunlight

 

[Ragnarok]

And here I thought we came to a mutual understanding...

You took my entire reply out of context, Shakey.



s'cool, though... You're still alright in my book.

 

[Greybeard7]

Someone noted in the past that sometimes the board discussions become more heated and divisive just before something significant happens.

If this thread is any indicator, something indeed may be about to occur. (Or, these posts could just be the same old heated political debates we're used to.)

I think with the recent government warnings, many are edgy, tense, and very anxious about the next month or two.

Relax, breathe deeply, and proceed with whatever additional preps you wish to make in the coming weeks.

If you are truly concerned about what may happen, begin to envision what you will do in different situations. Be prepared mentally to act, where ever you might be, on whatever it is you fear most. Being prepared mentally, and having a preset course of physical actions to perform, may help to relieve stress in an emergency.

FWIW

GB7

 

[lifestuff]

There will be an event !

I just am not going to play that game with you that oppose my beliefs. ( period )

That said yes there is somthing coming down the pike, that I am fairly sure about
that most will agree.

In order to form a more perfect New World Order there will need to be a loss
of freedom as the USA has known it. So in short there will be an attack to premote there agenda. Martial law, the moving of the UN to a differant counrty and the new overlords to keep all the sheeple safe.
People will know they are screwed when its already to late. For that to occur there will have to be a great loss of life. This will rally the propagandized people into total exceptence of the complete loss of freedom.

There are those out there that can explain this far better than I and they are only a few clicks away.

The people not all but alot are being (I)diots.
Some people are simply just a bunch (N)o nothings
Sure there many awake and active,,,(V)ictorious people
There are many good people,whom,, (A)ssume not to know all things.
But there are just as many no good,,(R)eptiles out there.
LOL
So I plea to you all to try if you can to look to your own research and check
the facts on whats going on. Please try to except the facts even if they are hard to stomach.
Peace be with you all

 

[Sharon]

If this thread is any indicator, something indeed may be about to occur. (Or, these posts could just be the same old heated political debates we're used to.)

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Greybeard: What you said above, plus I know I'm just sick of hearing the vague warnings, plus additional information continously given that is stated as new, but just repeated with a different twist.

As an example, we've known for months that AQ has been recuiting from prisons, and where ever they can. But all of a sudden it's on FOX and CNN and headlined on Compuserve that AQ is now recruiting Americans for attacks. Just a different spin.

We're tired of the spin, tired of trying to read between the lines, tried of the balancing act, plus we now throw in elections, always a heated subject, and wham...fights.

I'm trying real hard to NOT read any political mud slinging posts. Those who are Republicans, so be it, those who are Democrats, so be it.

Just my .01

 

[lifestuff]

They seem to enjoy insulting me.

Lets play..

Rich aint it !

 

[notred]

Lets play..

Rich aint it !

Oh I gotta game for you...its called notred's loonie list of shame, aka, the ignore function, and you are the next winner! Good bye! Poof you're gone!

 

[milkydoo]

One word - Borders. Name me someone who will protect ours. (Apologies to Tancredo and Paul, but they are outcasts.) And since neither Bush or Kerry will, I'm not voting for either. On this issue alone. Yes, we sure showed those Iraqis. Heck, were I a fundamentalist with a bit of cash and wanting virgins in heaven, I'd just jump on the next freighter out of Syria, dis-embark in China-controlled Panama, and migrate up to Houston to bomb someone. The first rule of warfare - (or my rule at least) - defend the friggin borders, including airport terminals from incoming passegers. Hasn't happend yet, has it?

Keeping one nutcase out of this country who knows how to to order from Amazon certain books about Ricin (Uncle Fester) is far more important than any flypaper Iraq strategy. Use your brain and think about what you would do if you were President and wanted to protect the U.S. It wouldn't be this strategy.

Agree with you here. The neocons will do anything to back a war they feel is justified, including allowing their "Christian" leader to ransack the law and leave our borders defenseless. Rights, freedoms, dangerous precidents, the law and basic self defense are all out the window when it comes to the thirst for war.

Bush has left the borders open because he is corrupt and has zero interest in protecting the American people and the families of the soldiers sent abroad to do his dirty work. Some suggest that he is just trying to get reelected and doesn't want to rock the boat. Well, in that case, we should expect an EO on the following Wednesday placing a starting batch of 10K troops and a tank division on our southern border...........yeah right.

What an incredible lust for death and destruction we see on this very board, much of it by self professed Christians. We see people who litterally desire to kill every person who disagrees with them politically, whether they be over there or across the street. What an awesome nation we would have if we all just grabbed our guns and killed everyone who didn't vote the way we do.

Freedom, law, common sense, legitimate leadership? Who needs it, when we can just kill everything in sight.

As we speak, terrorists are crossing the border with WMD's. Now, whose fault is that? Clinton's? Bush spits in the face of every veteran with his policies yet the blind idol worship continues. If they can't worship Bush, then who? Kerry? They're stuck between a crock and a farce place.

Every excuse imaginable is drummed up to explain away or cover up the fact that Bush has given A.Q. a free pass into this country. "BushPass - One free, unchecked visit to the U.S. Bring your WMD's NOW! Plant 'em early and plant 'em often, 'cause we don't give a sh*t!"