CRIME Wisconsin boy, 10, killed mom over VR headset
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TKO
Veteran Member
It's a future Democrat voter, though. So, it will live.
LightEcho
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Unfortunately we have little information on this case. What we do know from the one article is that a boy 10 years old willfully shot his mother dead because he wanted to play something that she would not buy for him. There might have been anger for a while, but the anger or disappointment was handled with a bad choice. We all have the power of choice. And we all have a conscience. In this case, what we know to this point, is that the conscience of this boy was seared like a hot iron to flesh. And we know that there was no remorse from this critter as if the killing of his mother was just turning off a light switch. Sounds pretty condemning to me.
We can choose to take any path- we have that awesome and awful power. But we cannot choose the consequences of those choices. God gave us laws to learn from Him and to live well with each other. Some people have chosen to go beyond lawfulness. Sounds like this is one of those cases, 10 years old or 6 or 26.... matters not.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
This^^^ Often if the bad seed was in the city it went on summer vacation to visit whatever relative who lived on a farm. If hard work and strict rules didn't work then an accident often happened to said bad seedling. I've heard many a story of young kids being run over by a threshing machine, mainly boys, that should give you a hint right there.
For most hard work, long hours, and very strict rules with even stricter punishments straightened most bad seedlings out, and the rest had a date with death.
Troubled child for sure. What to do with him? I doubt he will change, but who knows? In the meantime keep society safe from him. Ten is so young..no idea how things will play out for him in the future, but for certain, and right now, he needs to be in custody and does need to be held accountable. Sociopath, Narcissistic, Skitzo, ??? Time will tell. At the end of the day, killing your MOTHER because you could not make an amazon purchase reflects such an out-of-touch, cold and calculating persona. WTF is happening to so many children? It is chilling. I say put him away and let him age and then evaluate him ...he may change, or not. I do not think he will. Such a disturbing situation. 10 years old, holy shit!
ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Not only killed her.....but then afterwards got on her computer and ordered the VR headset he wanted.....THAT IS NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOR!!
At work we ran a school known as SERE - Why this U.S. military survival school is the most feared of them all. Students were given a live chicken or rabbit to kill, dress, cook and eat. I recall overhearing a clutch of incoming students worrying about having to kill their dinner.
Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Pretty much how it goes almost everywhere. No way to handle the kid now and little if anything seems to get done to transition child killer to even semi-responsible adult.
This sucks on any level you can imagine.
No winners here.......
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ChicagoMan74
ULTRA MAGA
Wow...the responses on this thread are um...interesting.
This is either textbook schizophrenia or REAL demon possession.
Either way...this child needs to be removed from civilized society and institutionalized in some form, whether prison or a mental health facility, or both.
Maybe. Maybe not. If he can’t pass the mental health test(s) he will have to take before he is allowed out then he’ll be sent to the State hospital.
And the above is one of the primary reasons that these type of minors get charged as adults. If they are charged as juveniles they’ll get out at 18, possibly 21. If they are charged as adults, it is NOT automatic that they get out at 18.
I understand the system can be abused but if the consequences are as egregious as is being stated, then the consequences should be as well.
I’ve told the story multiple times but here it goes again. I worked nearly a decade in mental health as support staff. I primarily worked in aging and mental health with those over 55. However, occasionally I would be called to fill in for other departments and programs. Where I used to work had at one time various residential settings. One time I was called to help with some grant stuff on the children’s lock down ward. If you’ve ever wondered about the reality of demon possession or the bad seed theory, work a day in that setting and you will never ever wonder again.
Some of those kids looked completely angelic and even act it on a limited basis. Then their true natures will out. One such incident was one fo the little kids got fixated on me. They had the kid heavily medicated in preparation for sending them to state lock down. That meant he didn’t look like the demon they were. I got handed a picture and they calmly and beatifically said they wondered what my blood tasted like. I will not describe the horror I was being subjected to in the picture. Dear Lord Above. The kid was about five or six. I’ve done my best to forget the incident to be honest. Needless to say they rushed me off the unit for my own safety. That particular “patient” had already bit a staff person and taken a chunk of flesh out … which they ate and swallowed before they could be stopped.
Sometimes all you can do is deal with what is before you regardless of what softhearted and understanding people would like to be the reality.
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packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
No such tests here in Iowa to be released.
pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
I've worked with all kinds of insane people. I worked in a lockdown mental facility.
There are many drugs that can help mitigate some of this child's symptoms.
This kis started hurting animals at 4, he tried to hurt his cousin that the authorities sent him home with when everyone thought all this was just an "accident".
This kis went off because his mother said NO.
This isn't an abused stray dog or cat.
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
The idea of a homicidal child is unnerving to me. The idea of a PACK of homicidal children makes my trigger finger itch.
Humans are hard-wired to a certain degree to want to protect children. But humans are also hard-wired to protect themselves.
So what happens when two hard-wired phenomena end up at odds and you find yourself having to PROTECT YOURSELF FROM CHILDREN?
If you want to experience that kind of horror for yourself, get a copy of the movie "Home Movie." You'll experience exactly that in first-person perspective and force you to consider how you might respond to such a situation.
And given that the psychological medication is starting to run dry, well...you may have to face such a situation sooner than you think.
Walrus Whisperer
Hope in chains...
Watch the old movie called "The Bad Seed"
Melodi
Disaster Cat
My main point here isn't to argue that little monster is sane or possibly redeemable, that's not within my background to access.
My main point is that having to charge such children as "adults" simply because the laws are messed up is still absurd. A ten-year-old is not an adult, no court would allow a ten-year-old under any other circumstances to be considered an adult or make adult decisions.
What needs changing are the laws and the systems that work with those laws. That includes the overall problem of what to do with the potentially violent mentally ill of any age, not just kids. But kids are where the most obvious changes need to be made as quickly as possible.
If anyone here thinks a 10-year-old is a full adult, just let them run the family budget, pay all the bills and try to get a full-time job for a month. Sounds crazy, no crazier than deciding a probably criminally insane ten-year-old can be expected to have the ability to defend themselves in court as an "adult."
My main point is that having to charge such children as "adults" simply because the laws are messed up is still absurd. A ten-year-old is not an adult, no court would allow a ten-year-old under any other circumstances to be considered an adult or make adult decisions.
What needs changing are the laws and the systems that work with those laws. That includes the overall problem of what to do with the potentially violent mentally ill of any age, not just kids. But kids are where the most obvious changes need to be made as quickly as possible.
If anyone here thinks a 10-year-old is a full adult, just let them run the family budget, pay all the bills and try to get a full-time job for a month. Sounds crazy, no crazier than deciding a probably criminally insane ten-year-old can be expected to have the ability to defend themselves in court as an "adult."
Giblin
Veteran Member
This reminds me of an incident years ago when my son said he didn't have time to do his homework and I found him on the Ataire playing games. I took the machine and tossed it out the 2nd floor window. I'm glad he wasn't crazy!
PS: The machine landed on grass and survived. But homework was done first.
PS: The machine landed on grass and survived. But homework was done first.
Pretty good odds that if this kid was actually raised by his parents... he would have taken a different path. Societies of yore would have given this guy plenty of responsibility and a sense of purpose, not to mention stern discipline from an early age.... I guarantee this kid was never seriously disciplined beyond a limp wristed "time out"
Look at how many of our people are on anti depression meds... with full bellies and indoor plumbing!
db cooper
Resident Secret Squirrel
It's called a psychopath. One of the most notable studies done on psychopaths was that of Dr Robert D Hare who authored Without Conscience. He developed a checklist, still used today, that's used to assess whether or not a person is a psychopath. One of his claims is that a person is born like that, and a prime qualification of a psychopath is they have a limited or no conscience at all. I read his books, and taking from memory something like 7% of the population are psychopaths. They range from being just the workplace mischief maker to the serial killers.
The various "toys" kids have today such as a phone or other devices will not make a kid a killer and it is doubtful if such a kid will be made into a killer by being around other kids his age group. And I seriously doubt if mommy's personality and/or parenting skills were so bad that she made him into a killer.
I believe your term "miswired" is exactly correct. The kid was unfortunately born with some brain defect.
The left has successfully brainwashed western culture into believing anything bad coming from a kid or young adult is the direct result of bad parenting. This same bunch will fully recognize physical birth defects but somehow it escapes them that mental defects can also happen. (A psychopath is one such defect and there is no cure for it.) Many factors determine the personality of a kid when growing up. Public education is a huge one. Movies watched, hard drugs, news articles as well as the local culture. The same bunch that claims 99% of bad kids are the result of bad parenting are hypocrites in that they will recognize our government schools as brainswashing kids as well as a kid in a "bad part of town" not having a chance (ie local culture).
Whether or not this kid should be treated as an adult or is irrelevant. He is what he is, he was born that way, and he will never change. The only thing for certain is he needs to be permanently removed from society.
My opinions are based on actually having worked with a psychopath, being told she was a psychopath by a real shrink based on her odd behavior, and reading everything I could find on the subject.
ETA: It's also my belief that the left's brainwashing western culture into believing that 100% of a kid to full grown adult's bad behavior is the result of bad bad parenting is part of their plan to eliminate families and make the state the sole guardian of children.
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somewherepress
Has No Life - Lives on TB
If a 10 year old is considered not responsible for making a decision to kill its mother, why are we allowing 10 year olds (and younger children) to make decisions to permanently alter their gender.....
jward
passin' thru
As I surmised, WI is actually rated rather highly on the accessibility/affordability/availability metrics wrt MH services- usually top 5-10 seed, as it were.
..of course, COVID has made everyone's addictions/anxieties/depressions sky rocket, and the country as a whole is struggling, and failing, to meet the needs.
I've friends n relatives in the field in the area, some who worked with gein, and skew agnostic. In spite of, or because of, and being tops in their fields, they've been known to be willing to entertain the possibility of evil as a causative contributor.
Another fyi is that in addition to the animal mutilations, the other two elements o' the (now somewhat out of favour) triad are enuresis and arson/firestarting.
Granny Franny
Senior Member
This is an incredibly sad story. One thing that stood out was the quote below where he said he was trying to scare her by shooting at a wall when she walked in front of him. If true, he may not have intended to actually kill her, however his callous actions of lying about it and ordering his VR afterwards indicate it may just be another lie. I suspect that more will come out with this one.
We had access to firearms at 10 years old and often took the .22 out back and did target practice. It never once entered my little 10 year old head to shoot someone. Yes. He is a kid but at 10 he knew better. He just didn't care and he murdered his own mom in Cold blood. Put it down before he murders someone else.
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What you put in you mind becomes thought, thought becomes action!
I disagree about media not making killers... pumping the mind full of violence is exactly how you make killers... the parents are absolutely responsible for teaching right and wrong.... legitimate lethal force from murder... this is why the military stresses discipline and instant obedience to orders..... they fill the troops with aggression and the view that it is OK and necessary to hurt and butcher other people.... have to build in an off switch.
Mom failed... the boy could most likely been saved
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Melodi
Disaster Cat
I am not in favor of that either and for similar reasons, ten is way too young to make an adult decision.
ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Heck I know some 20 - 30 - 40+ year old folks that shouldn't be considered responsible adults. But it doesn't take a genius to figure out that there is something SERIOUSLY WRONG with this kid.....seriously deadly wrong!! The main question is what to do with him?!?
ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Speaker of the house.......
Walrus Whisperer
Hope in chains...
I only differ in that I think they are MADE by what occurs in the baby/toddler stages of life. Maybe not, but that's what I think.
Possible. If somehow the baby/mom bonding thing did not occur, that would explain a lot.
Walrus Whisperer
Hope in chains...
I still remember the 1st chicken I processed just a few years ago. The hardest was to do the actual killing. I used the neck separation method. I hooded her which seems to calm them. Tied her legs together so I could hold her good. I laid her on the floor with the broomstick laying lightly across her neck. Stepped lightly on one side, then steeled myself for the deed. Step on the other side, both feet will be on the broomstick, and firmly pull to separate the neck. There will be flapping, one can feel when the neck is separated, and then its all over except the dying throes.
I actually killed a rabbit and ate it once too. I do not remember how I did that. A mammal is very different from a bird.
To this day, I miss having chickens. They were more pets than they were stock for me.
You think it is unnerving reading or thinking about it? You should be in the presence of kids like this. It is like the story of when the angels turned on God. There just doesn't seem to be any good way to compute it.
And when looking for a reason? Most of the very young ones are simply born that way and their parents are victims not the perpetrators that most in society trying to paint them to be. Why our Creator allows it I have no clue.
bw
Fringe Ranger
Anyone who murders as an adult almost certainly was cruel to animals when young. Most who are cruel to animals when young grow out of it and don't murder when adults.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Actually there's been several studies done of women who were pregnant and had influenza while pregnant. What researchers found, with the babies that survived, was a huge increase for mental health issues like bi polar disease and schizophrenia.
I became interested in the study because my dad's youngest sister was absolutely off the charts bat shit crazy! She was diagnosed later in life with severe bipolar disease and also as psychotic. My grandmother caught the flu when she was pregnant with my aunt and nearly died, she was in the hospital for weeks according to my dad and his oldest sister.
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
I'm unsettled enough by the thought of it. I used to work with "at-risk" kids, but I never felt threatened. Let ALONE creepy-disembowelly-threatened. Granted, at the time I was big and young enough to make punching through a face look like a distinct possibility, but still. When it's a whole group of them, you can only punch so fast.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
This is entirely possible. I had a family I worked for as a nanny and the mom just did not bond with her infant at all. When I arrived I was told the only way she could, or anyone else for that matter, hold him was for the baby to be facing away from her. I had him facing me and giving me major hugs and demanding to be held within two days, he was about four months old when he came into my care.
I'm not really sure what was going on her head at that time, however, even her oldest son, who was 13 at the time, said that something wasn't right with her and that she never behaved like that with the middle kid. My guess was some sort of post partum (sp?) depression? I was so happy to find out that that baby boy grew up to be a healthy well adjusted adult, and that he became a marine just like his older brothers.
Used to work in child psych. Until you see a psychotic 3 year old, you have NO clue.
Talk about head on a swivel - they would attack you from any angle at any time.
Are they redeemable? The ones I worked with generally were not.
You can’t count on drugs to help these kids. Typically they did not. They were out of their minds.
Could you hit them with a shot of something potent? Yes. But the problem was not fixed for long.
Honestly, I think they should be eliminated from the gene pool. Otherwise you’re just asking for more.
Problem is, how do you decide this? It’s really so pitiful and difficult to diagnose, I would be extremely hard pressed to decide.
So I left all that to someone else.
Talk about head on a swivel - they would attack you from any angle at any time.
Are they redeemable? The ones I worked with generally were not.
You can’t count on drugs to help these kids. Typically they did not. They were out of their minds.
Could you hit them with a shot of something potent? Yes. But the problem was not fixed for long.
Honestly, I think they should be eliminated from the gene pool. Otherwise you’re just asking for more.
Problem is, how do you decide this? It’s really so pitiful and difficult to diagnose, I would be extremely hard pressed to decide.
So I left all that to someone else.
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Boy who shot mom for refusing Amazon purchase spoke of ‘little girls’ inside his head, grandma says
The 10-year-old Milwaukee boy who allegedly shot his mom over a virtual reality headset had “two little girls” inside his head who told him to do things, his grieving grandmother said — as she begged for mercy for her sick grandson.
“He’s always said that he hears voices,” Lueritha Mann told The Daily Beast on Thursday.
“There’s two little girls inside his head telling him to do things. And he has an imaginary friend that will tell him to do really bad things.”
The boy also had difficulty sleeping and would complain about the voices being especially intense in the early morning, Mann added.
He also struggled in school.
“He said that his thoughts and everything starts generating at 5 or 6 in the morning,” Mann told the outlet. “Sometimes four o’clock.
“He tried to do the right thing , but he couldn’t do it right. And he was bullied a lot, really bad.”
The juvenile, whose name is being withheld because of his age, allegedly shot his mom, Quiana Mann, in the face on Nov. 21 after she wouldn’t buy him an Oculus Virtual Reality headset.
He then allegedly logged onto her Amazon account to purchase the gadget.
He was charged as an adult last week with first-degree reckless homicide and is being held at the county’s juvenile detention facility on $50,000 bail.
The distraught grandmother said her grandson would call the little girls in his head “sisters.”
She described an incident six months ago when her grandson filled a balloon with flammable liquid and set it aflame, causing a fire to spread in the living room.
Afterwards, he blamed the “sisters” in his head — but then described one of the girls as an elderly woman and the other as an unpleasant man.
The grandmother also recalled how he used to swing his puppy around by the tail.
Mann attributed some of her grandson’s struggles to a concussion he suffered two years ago when he fell off a swing.
“So that just meshed with the mental illness and it just kind of spiraled and made him worse,” she remembered.
“It was bad. Sometimes he would have these episodes where he was just kind of mean to [his mother],” she continued.
“He didn’t pick up on a lot of things. He talks intelligent, but he doesn’t understand a lot of things. And he would cry a lot.”
The boy now keeps telling his family he is still on Santa’s list this Christmas, Mann told the Daily Beast.
“He said Santa’s bringing him some things for Christmas,” she said.
“He said yesterday, ‘Can we go to the house and decorate it for Christmas? Put up the Christmas tree and decorate the outside of the house?’” she added.
Mann also revealed her daughter was taking the boy to a therapist, who confirmed the severity of his illness. She also got daily reports from school about his behavior in class.
“We tried helping her with him,” Mann added.
“All of us, everybody that knows her, even her church people. We all tried helping her with him because we knew he had a mental illness.”
She said her daughter loved being a mom, sang in a gospel choir and was within three credits of a master’s degree.
“She loved being a mom,” Mann said of her daughter.
“His birthday parties were fabulous. The table is set up so beautiful. The balloons, The gifts. The cake.”
Quiana Mann and her son even traveled to Disneyland last Christmas, and spent part of June in New York.
In early November, they jetted to Puerto Rico, returning shortly before the shooting.
But despite his mother’s efforts to give him a happy life, the grandmother said her grandson was never really satisfied unless he was “getting something.”
She said he would sometimes steal his mother’s credit card to make online purchases.
Police are now saying it was the mom’s refusal to buy her son an Occulus headset that lead to the tragic shooting.
Investigators say the boy had unlocked the gun box in his mother’s bedroom and went to the basement, where she was doing laundry.
Despite initially claiming that he was “twirling the gun around” and it accidentally went off, he later admitted to his maternal aunt, Sharhonda Reid, that he assumed a “‘shooting stance’” and aimed the gun at his mom.
Quiana Mann’s last words were reportedly, “Why do you have that? Put that down.”
She was fatally shot in the face approximately three feet away from her, according to detectives.
Immediately after the killing, computer records show the boy accessed his mother’s Amazon account and purchased the headset.
Before the boy told allegedly confessed to his aunt, and the shooting was still being treated as an accident, Reid took her nephew to see his grandmother.
“Upon arrival, when [the boy] saw his grandmother crying, he stated without any empathy or compassion: ‘I’m really sorry for what happened. I’m sorry for killing my mom,’” the criminal complaint says.
“After apologizing for killing his mother, asked if his Amazon package arrived.”
The boy later altered his story and the family called the police.
Despite her grief, Mann is certain that her daughter would not want her son prosecuted as an adult.
“They decided, ‘We’re just gonna throw the book at him,” she said of the district attorney. “[Quiana] would want us to do everything that we could to help him.”
Quiana Mann’s funeral is scheduled for Friday. In lieu of black, mourners are asked to wear pink, which was her favorite color.
The boy is due back in court on Dec. 7.
In the meantime, Lueritha said, the family will be preparing for Christmas, just like he asked.
nypost.com
The 10-year-old Milwaukee boy who allegedly shot his mom over a virtual reality headset had “two little girls” inside his head who told him to do things, his grieving grandmother said — as she begged for mercy for her sick grandson.
“He’s always said that he hears voices,” Lueritha Mann told The Daily Beast on Thursday.
“There’s two little girls inside his head telling him to do things. And he has an imaginary friend that will tell him to do really bad things.”
The boy also had difficulty sleeping and would complain about the voices being especially intense in the early morning, Mann added.
He also struggled in school.
“He said that his thoughts and everything starts generating at 5 or 6 in the morning,” Mann told the outlet. “Sometimes four o’clock.
“He tried to do the right thing , but he couldn’t do it right. And he was bullied a lot, really bad.”
The juvenile, whose name is being withheld because of his age, allegedly shot his mom, Quiana Mann, in the face on Nov. 21 after she wouldn’t buy him an Oculus Virtual Reality headset.
He then allegedly logged onto her Amazon account to purchase the gadget.
He was charged as an adult last week with first-degree reckless homicide and is being held at the county’s juvenile detention facility on $50,000 bail.
The distraught grandmother said her grandson would call the little girls in his head “sisters.”
She described an incident six months ago when her grandson filled a balloon with flammable liquid and set it aflame, causing a fire to spread in the living room.
Afterwards, he blamed the “sisters” in his head — but then described one of the girls as an elderly woman and the other as an unpleasant man.
The grandmother also recalled how he used to swing his puppy around by the tail.
Mann attributed some of her grandson’s struggles to a concussion he suffered two years ago when he fell off a swing.
“So that just meshed with the mental illness and it just kind of spiraled and made him worse,” she remembered.
“It was bad. Sometimes he would have these episodes where he was just kind of mean to [his mother],” she continued.
“He didn’t pick up on a lot of things. He talks intelligent, but he doesn’t understand a lot of things. And he would cry a lot.”
The boy now keeps telling his family he is still on Santa’s list this Christmas, Mann told the Daily Beast.
“He said Santa’s bringing him some things for Christmas,” she said.
“He said yesterday, ‘Can we go to the house and decorate it for Christmas? Put up the Christmas tree and decorate the outside of the house?’” she added.
Mann also revealed her daughter was taking the boy to a therapist, who confirmed the severity of his illness. She also got daily reports from school about his behavior in class.
“We tried helping her with him,” Mann added.
“All of us, everybody that knows her, even her church people. We all tried helping her with him because we knew he had a mental illness.”
She said her daughter loved being a mom, sang in a gospel choir and was within three credits of a master’s degree.
“She loved being a mom,” Mann said of her daughter.
“His birthday parties were fabulous. The table is set up so beautiful. The balloons, The gifts. The cake.”
Quiana Mann and her son even traveled to Disneyland last Christmas, and spent part of June in New York.
In early November, they jetted to Puerto Rico, returning shortly before the shooting.
But despite his mother’s efforts to give him a happy life, the grandmother said her grandson was never really satisfied unless he was “getting something.”
She said he would sometimes steal his mother’s credit card to make online purchases.
Police are now saying it was the mom’s refusal to buy her son an Occulus headset that lead to the tragic shooting.
Investigators say the boy had unlocked the gun box in his mother’s bedroom and went to the basement, where she was doing laundry.
Despite initially claiming that he was “twirling the gun around” and it accidentally went off, he later admitted to his maternal aunt, Sharhonda Reid, that he assumed a “‘shooting stance’” and aimed the gun at his mom.
Quiana Mann’s last words were reportedly, “Why do you have that? Put that down.”
She was fatally shot in the face approximately three feet away from her, according to detectives.
Immediately after the killing, computer records show the boy accessed his mother’s Amazon account and purchased the headset.
Before the boy told allegedly confessed to his aunt, and the shooting was still being treated as an accident, Reid took her nephew to see his grandmother.
“Upon arrival, when [the boy] saw his grandmother crying, he stated without any empathy or compassion: ‘I’m really sorry for what happened. I’m sorry for killing my mom,’” the criminal complaint says.
“After apologizing for killing his mother, asked if his Amazon package arrived.”
The boy later altered his story and the family called the police.
Despite her grief, Mann is certain that her daughter would not want her son prosecuted as an adult.
“They decided, ‘We’re just gonna throw the book at him,” she said of the district attorney. “[Quiana] would want us to do everything that we could to help him.”
Quiana Mann’s funeral is scheduled for Friday. In lieu of black, mourners are asked to wear pink, which was her favorite color.
The boy is due back in court on Dec. 7.
In the meantime, Lueritha said, the family will be preparing for Christmas, just like he asked.
Boy who shot mom for refusing Amazon purchase spoke of ‘little girls’ inside his head, grandma says
The boy was charged as an adult last week with first-degree reckless homicide after shooting his mother in face on the morning of Nov. 21.
nypost.com
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
wow, this kid is truly bad seed! There's no way anyone, other than God, can fix this kid.
So in the never ending nature vs. nurture debate, you’re firmly on the nurture side.
As the parent of a sociopathic child, I can say with some authority that you’re wrong.
West
Senior
I'll just add that your probably right in most cases.
Drug babies (meth head mothers) I adopted a vary troubled and some would say insane sociopath 5 year old in 1986.
By 1987 he was a typical kid. Then his God mother (pos) got him back and drugged him up on ADHD drugs.
I had him minding me and we connected big time, in a full year. He's on disability today and since his God mother was a FSA queen she made sure he was fully disabled at 18 yo.
He's actually doing good from what I hear. Though a leach on the system but has three kids of his own today and from what I hear is a good dad.
Anyway, I had to really show big time harsh punishment when he mis-behaved. Up to what many would call corporal punishments.
But we hunted and fished and camped together in the woods for many days and knights. Bathed in ice cold streams, eat off the land etc.... became more blood brothers than step dad/step son.
Just my experience with a bad seed.