Lilbitsnana
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Not sure what you saw or are seeing.
That livestream link says not available to me and says it was recorded yesterday.
Volcano Update 2 - Additional vents opening -Volcano on La Palma island in the Canary Islands has erupted
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Not sure what you saw or are seeing.
That livestream link says not available to me and says it was recorded yesterday.
Lilbitsnana
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There are vents open on sides that aren't necessarily showing on some of the livestreams
Sometime yesterday, there were seven vents open (vents open and close/stop on a regular basis), earlier today there were five open, but I haven't checked in last several hours for current count.
I know they have had 14 earthquakes over 3.0 on the island in the last 21 hours; so things are still interesting.
Sometime yesterday, there were seven vents open (vents open and close/stop on a regular basis), earlier today there were five open, but I haven't checked in last several hours for current count.
I know they have had 14 earthquakes over 3.0 on the island in the last 21 hours; so things are still interesting.
Mprepared
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It was working earlier and I thought it was live because I was watching it on YouTube and people were commenting. Here is another YouTube. I think it is live
Lilbitsnana
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15 now, just had a 3.4 a few minutes ago. (via volcano discovery)
Warm Wisconsin
Easy as 3.141592653589..
There has been a significant increase in lava and height of the plume in the last hour. I’ve had this streaming on the TV for 13-14 days and we are definitely the most activity right now of this entire eruption
Lilbitsnana
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accckkkk, thought I hit enter hours ago. grrrr
chart that shows number/size of EQs on la Palma since Sept 19th
format is day-month
chart that shows number/size of EQs on la Palma since Sept 19th
format is day-month
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Lilbitsnana
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from a chat a few minutes ago:
Shooter
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Observed gravitational waves?
What the heck does that mean?
Warm Wisconsin
Easy as 3.141592653589..
It was misquoted by the media. What the governor actually said is unclear but he didn’t say gravitational waves.
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Lilbitsnana
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I don't know exactly.
The ring type clouds the other day were referred to that, but don't think that is what they meant.
There is a really long report from a few years ago that I found about another volcano in Japan that mentions absolute gravity. Maybe something along those lines.
It is way too long to post, but here is the link and opening portion.
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Absolute gravity change associated with magma mass movement in the conduit of Asama Volcano (Central Japan), revealed by physical modeling of hydrological gravity disturbances
Takahito Kazama,Shuhei Okubo,Takayuki Sugano,Shigeo Matsumoto,Wenke Sun,Yoshiyuki Tanaka,Etsuro Koyama,
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The gravity signal originating from magma mass movement in a volcanic conduit is retrieved from the hydrologically disturbed absolute gravity data obtained at Asama Volcano (Central Japan) in 2004, using a three-dimensional hydrological model. We improve the hydrological model of the previous study using realistic soil parameters and boundary conditions, to better estimate the spatiotemporal land-water distributions and the consequent hydrological gravity disturbances. The newly estimated gravity disturbances agree with the absolute gravity values observed by FG5 gravimeters in 2004–2009 within about 2.6 μGal, by additionally accounting for the excess discharge of groundwater mass associated with a sloping impermeable surface below the discharge area. After the gravity disturbance of 20 μGal amplitude is subtracted from the absolute gravity data observed during the 2004 eruptive event, the gravity residual of 5 μGal amplitude shows a significant decrease in synchronization with eruptions, because the ascending magma mass in the conduit affects the upward attraction force to the gravimeters installed on the flank of Asama Volcano. The magma head altitude, to which the residual gravity is converted assuming a homogeneous linear density in the conduit, shows a comprehensive agreement of the time variation in the magma head with those in other volcanic observations, such as gas emission rate and earthquake frequency. By correcting the hydrological gravity disturbances using this hydrological model and simultaneously obtained meteorological data in real time, spatiotemporal variations in the magma mass can be instantaneously monitored at Asama Volcano, even before eruptions during future volcanic events.
Krayola
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^^ This link doesn't work for me. Does that thread still exist?I started a thread for woo, religion, and politics about this eruption here so that we can keep this thread strictly for the eruption.
UNEX - The all things Woo, Religious, and Political La Palma Volcanic Eruption thread!
Just as the title states, I'll go fetch the links to the other three threads now. https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/magma-is-moving-underneath-la-palma-cumbre-vieja-canary-islands-volcano.607399/...www.timebomb2000.com
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
This means... what?
Lilbitsnana
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I don't know. It was posted in a chat room that I read, but not a member so can't/don't post. It moves too fast anyway. I figured it meant something, so copied/pasted here.
I thought we have one or two geologists here, who might know, but don't think we have any volcanologists.
The only volcanologist I ever knew, has probably died years ago, so....
I did post in 654 some info that might be connected, but not sure.
DH is home, so my attention span is almost zero and filled with constant interruptions.
Lilbitsnana
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Figure post 654, whatever the scientists at the Spanish volcano institute wrote or said and the below info gives a few clues. But, the Spanish scientists said on the 27th that the volcano had stabilized and entered a calm period too, so who knows.
MODIS | Terra - NASA
MODIS
Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer
With its sweeping 2,330-km-wide viewing swath, MODIS sees every point on our world every 1-2 days in 36 discrete spectral bands. Consequently, MODIS tracks a wider array of the earth’s vital signs than any other Terra sensor. For instance, the sensor measures the percent of the planet’s surface that is covered by clouds almost every day. This wide spatial coverage enables MODIS, together with MISR and CERES, to help scientists determine the impact of clouds and aerosols on the Earth’s energy budget.
In addition to recording the frequency and distribution of cloud cover, MODIS measures the properties of clouds such as the distribution and size of cloud droplets in both liquid water and ice clouds. MODIS also measures the properties of aerosols—tiny liquid or solid particles in the atmosphere. Aerosols enter the atmosphere from manmade sources like pollution and biomass burning and natural sources like dust storms, volcanic eruptions, and forest fires. MODIS helps scientists determine the amount of water vapor in a column of the atmosphere and the vertical distribution of temperature and water vapor—measurements crucial to understanding Earth’s climate system.
MODIS is ideal for monitoring large-scale changes in the biosphere that are yielding new insights into the workings of the global carbon cycle. MODIS measures the photosynthetic activity of land and marine plants (phytoplankton) to yield better estimates of how much of the greenhouse gas is being absorbed and used in plant productivity. Coupled with the sensor’s surface temperature measurements, MODIS’ measurements of the biosphere are helping scientists track the sources and sinks of carbon dioxide in response to climate changes.
Almost every day over the entire globe, the sensor monitors changes on the land surface, thereby building upon and extending the heritage begun by Landsat. MODIS maps the areal extent of snow and ice brought by winter storms and frigid temperatures. The sensor observes the “green wave” that sweeps across continents as winter gives way to spring and vegetation blooms in response. It sees where and when disasters strike—such as volcanic eruptions, floods, severe storms, droughts, and wildfires—and will hopefully help people get out of harm’s way. MODIS’ bands are particularly sensitive to fires; they can distinguish flaming from smoldering burns and provide better estimates of the amounts of aerosols and gases fires release into the atmosphere.
MODIS sees changes in the Pacific phytoplankton populations that may signal the onset of the famous El Niño/La Niña climatic siblings well ahead of their arrival. In turn, by coupling its sea surface temperature and ocean color measurements, MODIS has observed the impacts El Niño and La Niña have on the microscopic marine plant. MODIS also has a unique channel for measuring chlorophyll fluorescence. All plants bombarded with light begin to glow, or fluoresce, but in wavelengths that our eyes cannot see. The more plants fluoresce, the less energy they are using for photosynthesis. Thus, MODIS not only maps the distribution of phytoplankton, it also helps us gauge its health.
Another MODIS instrument flies aboard Terra’s sister ship—Aqua.
Just checked the live camera at the following link. It's black. There is so much smoke/ash that you can see only a small part of the lava flow. The camera was at the top vent when it started to really fountain high, then smoke/ash started obscuring the view almost completely. Creepy. I have no idea what it means.
Now it looks like the smoke/ash is blowing away because you can see the main cones again and most of the lava flow.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFzZyTFQWo8
Now it looks like the smoke/ash is blowing away because you can see the main cones again and most of the lava flow.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFzZyTFQWo8
Lilbitsnana
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They have had 26 earthquakes in the last 6 hours; 52 in the last 24 hours.
La Palma Island Earthquakes Today: Latest Quakes Past 24 hours
See all quakes that happened on or near La Palma Island today. List, map, and stats updated in near real-time.
www.volcanodiscovery.com
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Mprepared
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I was watching when it started to get black.. You could hear that rooster crowing, so getting closer to daylight.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
More than the Iceland volcano, this fills me with dread. There is just something about it, it seems violent, and persistent. Like it is saying "I won't stop. Do NOT ignore me."
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Visualizador vigilancia volcánica
| 2.5 mbLg | N FUENCALIENTE DE LA PALMA.ILP 2021/10/04 12:21:11 | 14 | +info |
| 3.3 mbLg | NE FUENCALIENTE DE LA PALMA.IL 2021/10/04 12:00:32 | 15 | +info |
| 2.8 mbLg | NE FUENCALIENTE DE LA PALMA.IL 2021/10/04 11:29:52 | 13 | +info |
| 3.4 mbLg | SW VILLA DE MAZO.ILP 2021/10/04 11:22:07 | 12 | +info |
| 2.6 mbLg | W VILLA DE MAZO.ILP 2021/10/04 10:47:31 | 10 | +info |
| 3.1 mbLg | NE FUENCALIENTE DE LA PALMA.IL 2021/10/04 10:43:10 | 14 | +info |
| 3.1 mbLg | NE FUENCALIENTE DE LA PALMA.IL 2021/10/04 09:55:46 III | 14 | +info |
| 3.1 mbLg | W VILLA DE MAZO.ILP 2021/10/04 09:37:49 | 30 | +info |
| 2.8 mbLg | NE FUENCALIENTE DE LA PALMA.IL 2021/10/04 08:58:08 | 12 | +info |
| 2.7 mbLg | SW VILLA DE MAZO.ILP 2021/10/04 08:34:45 | 14 | +info |
| 2.6 mbLg | NE FUENCALIENTE DE LA PALMA.IL 2021/10/04 08:12:42 | 12 | +info |
| 3.2 mbLg | NE FUENCALIENTE DE LA PALMA.IL 2021/10/04 07:59:57 | 13 | +info |
| 2.6 mbLg | NE FUENCALIENTE DE LA PALMA.IL 2021/10/04 07:50:42 | 10 | +info |
| 3.3 mbLg | SW VILLA DE MAZO.ILP 2021/10/04 07:46:32 | 12 | +info |
| 2.7 mbLg | NE FUENCALIENTE DE LA PALMA.IL 2021/10/04 07:38:05 | 10 | +info |
| 3.3 mbLg | NE FUENCALIENTE DE LA PALMA.IL 2021/10/04 07:33:59 |
danielboon
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packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
greysage
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Shooter
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had this one on while eating dinner, in 18 minutes it went from full screen lit up with light from bright lava. to almost total darkness cause of smoke, something is changing
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3tHfkG_N94
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greysage
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Bushcraft Bear caught whatever happened from his overlook spot. It's in the last two minutes of this video. Runtime 8 min.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gdQYBIGplo
West
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packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
from what I'm hearing part of the lava dome collapsed.
Shooter
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packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
I don't know. If it blocks the vent it's a bad thing, that's what happened to Mount Saint Helens, part of the cone collapsed into the vent creating back pressure and then it blew it's top.
Mprepared
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Bill McGuire
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We see no sign of impending failure of the western flank at present. The cause would likely not be a single quake in any case. Pressurisation by magma intrusion at high levels into the water table would be more effective.
3:46 PM · Oct 4, 2021·Twitter Web App
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Maureen Osborn
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Where the current quakes are now….if the magma gets shallow enough at great enough force to cause pressure under the water hence pushing up on the bottom of the island?
@Maureen70607976
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Where the current quakes are now….if the magma gets shallow enough at great enough force to cause pressure under the water hence pushing up on the bottom of the island?
Warm Wisconsin
Easy as 3.141592653589..
La Palma volcano eruption already biggest on the island in more than 100 years
Tue, 5 Oct 2021, 10:08
10:08 AM | BY: T
Lava fountain and flow this morning at La Palma (image: Canarias TV)
Latest lava flow map (image: IGME)
The historic lava flow deltas (image: Gobierno Canarias)
SO2 plume from La Palma eruption hovering over the Canary islands and the Atlantic (image: Copernicus)
Current seismic signal LP01 station (image: IGN)
Earthquakes under La Palma during the past 3 days (image: IGN)
The eruption continues without significant changes this morning, with lava fountaining at the main vent, ash rising a 2-3 km and slowly drifting southwest, as well as a new lava flow from the now breached crater.
Already now, with only little more than two weeks of activity, it is significantly bigger than the two previous eruptions on the island during the past 100 years. The volume of erupted lava was estimated at 80 million cubic meters last Friday, and now probably more in the range of 100-120 million m3, surpasses both the eruptions of San Juan (1949, with 55 million m3 lava) and Teneguia (1971, 43 million m3 lava).
Latest data
According to the latest data, the lava flows have covered more than 400 hectares of land, including 31 km of roads and destroyed more than 1000 buildings. The lava flows reach a maximum width of 1250 meters, and have a height of 8-50 meters. The slowly growing sea delta forms a peninsula about 40 hectares, and adds to the southwestern coastal western plains formed by recent volcanic eruptions.
It was estimated that the eruption has so far emitted 250,000 tons of sulphur dioxide (SO2). The plume has been hovering around the Canary Islands, North Africa, the Mediterranean, parts of it drifted over the Atlantic, even reaching the Caribbean to the west and the Arctic in the north.
Deeper earthquakes appear
Earthquakes continue to occur and have been slowly increasing in numbers and magnitudes approaching magnitudes of 4.0 now. During the past 24 hours, there have been 31 quakes of magnitudes 3.0-3.9 and 47 quakes between 2.0 and 2.9, while smaller quakes cannot be detected due to the volcanic tremor noise.
While most of the quakes are still 10-15 km deep under the central area of the volcano, a cluster of new, deeper quakes has appeared at depths around 35 km under the northeastern flank. What these mean is uncertain, but they might reflect even deeper magma intrusions in the upper mantle, perhaps suggesting that a magma supply system is establishing itself from a very deep source. That in turn could mean that the eruption could be going on for a very long time.
At the ground, deformation rates seem to have been more or less stagnant, which means that magma intruding is balanced off by lava being erupted, or, in other words, the eruption is stable at the moment.
Tue, 5 Oct 2021, 10:08
10:08 AM | BY: T
Lava fountain and flow this morning at La Palma (image: Canarias TV)
Latest lava flow map (image: IGME)
The historic lava flow deltas (image: Gobierno Canarias)
SO2 plume from La Palma eruption hovering over the Canary islands and the Atlantic (image: Copernicus)
Current seismic signal LP01 station (image: IGN)
Earthquakes under La Palma during the past 3 days (image: IGN)
The eruption continues without significant changes this morning, with lava fountaining at the main vent, ash rising a 2-3 km and slowly drifting southwest, as well as a new lava flow from the now breached crater.
Already now, with only little more than two weeks of activity, it is significantly bigger than the two previous eruptions on the island during the past 100 years. The volume of erupted lava was estimated at 80 million cubic meters last Friday, and now probably more in the range of 100-120 million m3, surpasses both the eruptions of San Juan (1949, with 55 million m3 lava) and Teneguia (1971, 43 million m3 lava).
Latest data
According to the latest data, the lava flows have covered more than 400 hectares of land, including 31 km of roads and destroyed more than 1000 buildings. The lava flows reach a maximum width of 1250 meters, and have a height of 8-50 meters. The slowly growing sea delta forms a peninsula about 40 hectares, and adds to the southwestern coastal western plains formed by recent volcanic eruptions.
It was estimated that the eruption has so far emitted 250,000 tons of sulphur dioxide (SO2). The plume has been hovering around the Canary Islands, North Africa, the Mediterranean, parts of it drifted over the Atlantic, even reaching the Caribbean to the west and the Arctic in the north.
Deeper earthquakes appear
Earthquakes continue to occur and have been slowly increasing in numbers and magnitudes approaching magnitudes of 4.0 now. During the past 24 hours, there have been 31 quakes of magnitudes 3.0-3.9 and 47 quakes between 2.0 and 2.9, while smaller quakes cannot be detected due to the volcanic tremor noise.
While most of the quakes are still 10-15 km deep under the central area of the volcano, a cluster of new, deeper quakes has appeared at depths around 35 km under the northeastern flank. What these mean is uncertain, but they might reflect even deeper magma intrusions in the upper mantle, perhaps suggesting that a magma supply system is establishing itself from a very deep source. That in turn could mean that the eruption could be going on for a very long time.
At the ground, deformation rates seem to have been more or less stagnant, which means that magma intruding is balanced off by lava being erupted, or, in other words, the eruption is stable at the moment.
La Palma volcano eruption already biggest on the island in more than 100 years
La Palma volcano (Canary Islands): news & activity updates
www.volcanodiscovery.com