CORONA Turns out masks are effective if you wear them. Who knew?

[TammyinWI]

I have read too many articles about them really not working at all, except to keep bacteria on the skin, lowering oxygen levels and causing carbon dioxide build-up, and plastic nano-particles and microfibers showing up in people's lungs, while they do not prevent sickness. They actually contribute to sickness.

 

[SmithJ]

I get wearing a mask and viral load in close quarters, but not outside for God's sake; unless, you are burying someone with Ebola, and then mask, face shield, gloves, etc.,100%.
Bottom line: do what you need to do if something is going around. I did not get COVID either and no JAB, wore a mask only if it was required.

Sounds like a pretty solid take on it.

 

[aznurse]

Denmark did a study on masks. Did not show efficacy.

 

[Dobbin]

I understand that shackles and leg irons are also quite effective, if worn properly.

I can verify the hobbles. And the umbrage.

Dobbin

 

[TheSearcher]

Read it carefully. Mass requirements that everybody wear a mask got inclusive results. Wearing a mask properly works.

YOU read it carefully. The Cochrane folks said the study was inconclusive. The ABC News experts said masking works.

 

[Double_A]

Saw a guy wearing a mask at the grocery store about two weeks ago…under his nose.

I wanted to ask him why he’s still wearing a mask, but he looked kind of retarded/slow so shrugged and just figure he just didn’t have the mental capacity. So why say anything.

But this guy is going to complain to everyone, he got sick from something and doesn’t understand because he wears his mask (improperly) everywhere and can’t understand. See masks are a fail.

 

[Double_A]

The size of the covid 19 virus is .2 microns. That size will sail through 99% of the masks worn by people. Wearing a mask out doors and taking it off while eating in a restaurant is useless, yet people do it.

Yes but is that the way virus travel through the air? Transmission is airborne, when you sneeze you make a spray of virus particles in droplets of saliva and mucus that are massive in size compared to the virus particles. It is the micro droplets of infection material that are stopped by the mask, not necessarily the bare virus alone by itself.

 

[Kathy in WV]

I think the only way they help is if you are sick and wear one yourself, eliminating sneeze and cough spread. I do know when they lifted the masking in local schools my grandkids have caught every virus out there. Been sick all school year!

 

[blueinterceptor]

Yes but is that the way virus travel through the air? Transmission is airborne, when you sneeze you make a spray of virus particles in droplets of saliva and mucus that are massive in size compared to the virus particles. It is the micro droplets of infection material that are stopped by the mask, not necessarily the bare virus alone by itself.

The virus is more concentrated in the sputum and thus larger than .2 microns. Wearing one while you’re sick is a good idea.

 

[Raggedyman]

Dont however tell others what to do. You wont like the results.... Especially if your from the government

tell it brother​

 

[Blacknarwhal]

The size of the covid 19 virus is .2 microns. That size will sail through 99% of the masks worn by people. Wearing a mask out doors and taking it off while eating in a restaurant is useless, yet people do it.

How many only did it because they'd be thrown out if they failed to? How many forced their customers because they'd be forcibly closed if they didn't?

 

[Raggedyman]

But the issue here that I was addressing really wasn't whether people will wear them or whether people should wear them. But rather I was addressing the state that "face masks do nothing", which clearly is nonsense.

most of us - perhaps more correctly stated - "EVER INCREASING NUMBERS OF US" don't care if you mask or DO NOT mask. what the "EVER INCREASING NUMBERS" object to - quite likely will absolutely REFUSE to do is allow themselves to herded into the FARCE of mandates. THAT is the objection to the concept of "THE MASK"

killed an entire GLOBAL ECONOMY over a 99.99% recovery rate maliciously fabricated "PLANNEDemic. sum sumbeeches need to SWING - from VERY high and for VERY long

 

[Raggedyman]

YOU read it carefully. The Cochrane folks said the study was inconclusive. The ABC News experts said masking works.

a nobel but wasted effort brother . . . devotees of the paradigm shall NOT be convinced that their shackles actually DO exist

​

 

[TFergeson]

Here are 170 studies and articles showing that masks not only do not work, but are actually harmful. Please take the Branch Covidian propaganda elsewhere.

More than 170 Comparative Studies and Articles on Mask Ineffectiveness and Harms ⋆ Brownstone Institute

Do masks work? Current evidence implies face masks can be actually harmful. The body of evidence indicates masks are largely ineffective.

brownstone.org

 

[blueinterceptor]

How many only did it because they'd be thrown out if they failed to? How many forced their customers because they'd be forcibly closed if they didn't?

Probably most people did. But many people still do it today. Pretty full restaurant and a couple walk in wearing masks and sits in the middle of the other patrons, like the air is different. People got conditioned.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

Probably most people did. But many people still do it today. Pretty full restaurant and a couple walk in wearing masks and sits in the middle of the other patrons, like the air is different. People got conditioned.

Certainly I've seen a few do so. The temptation to tell them it simply doesn't work is overwhelming, sometimes. But I fear it will do more harm than good. Those still wearing masks don't want to hear they don't work.

 

[blueinterceptor]

Certainly I've seen a few do so. The temptation to tell them it simply doesn't work is overwhelming, sometimes. But I fear it will do more harm than good. Those still wearing masks don't want to hear they don't work.

Correct.

 

[Kathy in FL]

I still see way too many people wearing masks while they drive alone in their car. The masks are rarely worn properly and are rarely the correct kind of mask.

 

[bbbuddy]

I disagree tho on the education part. The education was given time and time again. Schools, churches, etc all gave info, masks. The person wearing it shouldered the responsibility. How many adults did I see walking around with it under their noses? And too many simply thumbed their noses at wearing one period. And those that latched onto NOT wearing a mask, made it political - all useless human beings. Society indeed is getting dumber by the day.

Ever wonder why people during plagues covered their mouth and noses? Same with every other communicable diseases. Even in the dark ages without modern technology they knew how transmission of germs occurred. The common cold, TB, Spanish flu …….

Hogwash. Ever heard of "miasma"?

MIASMA THEORY​

Miasmas are poisonous emanations, from putrefying carcasses, rotting vegetation or molds, and invisible dust particles inside dwellings. They were once believed to enter the body and cause disease. This belief dates at least from classical Greece in the fourth or fifth century b.c.e., and it persisted, alongside other theories and models for disease causation, until the middle of the nineteenth century.

Miasma Theory | Encyclopedia.com

MIASMA THEORY Miasmas are poisonous emanations, from putrefying carcasses, rotting vegetation or molds, and invisible dust particles inside dwellings. They were once believed to enter the body and cause disease. This belief dates at least from classical Greece in the fourth or fifth century...

www.encyclopedia.com

 

[Samuel Adams]

I can verify the hobbles. And the umbrage.

Dobbin

Sympathies.

 

[JMG91]

Not to mention that the masks are made in China—by our good friends —and x-rays done of the lungs of people who consistently wore those masks were filled with fibers that broke off and got sucked into their lungs every time they breathed in.

 

[blueinterceptor]

If people were compelled to wear n95 or p100 masks supplied at their own expense and forced to change them daily, the mask mandate would have died long ago. It survives because people were allowed an easy work around.

 

[Safetydude]

YOU read it carefully. The Cochrane folks said the study was inconclusive. The ABC News experts said masking works.

I just absolutely love MSM "experts" who are paid cronies, who in many cases from my observation know enough to be really dangerous regarding misinformation. Can't tell you how many times I wanted to grab a Level B HazMat suit and a PAPR and walk into meetings saying "If you aren't wearing this level of protection, you're all going to DIE!!" No I stifled myself and didn't as that would be as irresponsible as the bad information put out by the public health "authorities". BTW, many years ago as I worked with my former company's Pandemic Plan under business continuity planning, We only were going to use N-95 (at the time only 4 masks were certified for general adult population to wear without it testing during a pandemic). We had gallons of hand sanitizer and over 600 N-95 masks in our on-site cache. That was in 2008 time frame!

 

[Dennis Olson]

We’ve had this exact conversation about FIVE HUNDRED TIMES. Evidently Troke was on sabbatical every time we did.

 

[Dennis Olson]

I think the only way they help is if you are sick and wear one yourself, eliminating sneeze and cough spread. I do know when they lifted the masking in local schools my grandkids have caught every virus out there. Been sick all school year!

Children spend their days in a Petri dish of disease known as school. It is impossible for them to NOT
get sick.

 

[alchemike]

So wear a mask if you like...just don't try to force others to do the same.

 

[RB Martin]

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”​

― Samuel Adams

 

[Barry Natchitoches]

TRANSLATION:
we both have a highly functioning IMMUNE SYSTEM.
Take care of your immune system and it WILL take care of you
A job well done Barry!!
​

This is probably true of me.

This is definitely NOT TRUE of my wife.

She has been on - and continues to be - on a cancer chemo cocktail that is well documented for all but totally knocking out a persons immune system.

We go to great efforts to keep her safe, because with her chemo, most of the people who die die of opportunistic infections, rather than the cancer itself.

Her doctors are amazed that she is still alive five years later, but we go to great extents to protect her from Covid and other pathogens.

That is the reason that I STILL wear a face mask (and face shield and disposible nitrile gloves) every time I go out of the house.

I hate face diapers.

But worn appropriately, they can help keep even a cancer patient with a very WEAKENED immune system alive and relatively healthy!

 

[Barry Natchitoches]

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Saw a guy wearing a mask at the grocery store about two weeks ago…under his nose.

I wanted to ask him why he’s still wearing a mask, but he looked kind of retarded/slow so shrugged and just figure he just didn’t have the mental capacity. So why say anything.

But this guy is going to complain to everyone, he got sick from something and doesn’t understand because he wears his mask (improperly) everywhere and can’t understand. See masks are a fail.

Maybe he has a weakened immune system, like my wife. Or has a loved one in that situation.

ETA: He wore it under his nose?

I didn’t catch that the first time I read your comment.

Worn under the nose is probably even less effective than not wearing it at all. I do not know of any study to that effect. But it just seems to me that it might.

 

[Barry Natchitoches]

If people were compelled to wear n95 or p100 masks supplied at their own expense and forced to change them daily, the mask mandate would have died long ago. It survives because people were allowed an easy work around.

This is true.

But one thing I did, was I bought a machine that you can put a mask - or a cell phone or other small object in - and it bathes the object in ultra violet light. This machine has saved us alot of money, as I can use my masks again after a few trips into the anti-micribial bath.

We still make sure to give my wife a brand new one every time, though.

With my wifes life and health on the line, that is not a place to pinch pennies.

 

[Barry Natchitoches]

We are talking virus here the size of a few microns. A fabric mask isn’t going to prevent viral transmission. If you think it does you are welcome to your opinion. If someone passes gas and you can smell it through their jeans viral particulates are many times smaller that hydrogen sulfide molecules.

With a properly fitted N-95 mask on, I cannot smell a fart.

Or the horrible disinfectant smell at my wife’s chemo lounge.

Or bacon frying. (This latter is ashame).

 

[Intestinal Fortitude]

MANY people look far better with a mask ON

 

[Barry Natchitoches]

The size of the covid 19 virus is .2 microns. That size will sail through 99% of the masks worn by people. Wearing a mask out doors and taking it off while eating in a restaurant is useless, yet people do it.

Theoretically, yes.

But whereas SOME viral particles might get through a well fitting, properly worn N-95 mask, alot will STILL be blocked by the sheer mass of the filters. Not all of the particles can wigghe through the barriers.

Even if the viral load is only reduced - rather than totally eliminated - the reduced viral load itself is protective.

BYW, that is why alot of us who are serious about remaining healthy also wear the face shield and disposible nitrate gloves.

Additional barriers, to block even more of the tiny viral troublemaker.


BYW, taking the mask off to eat in a restaurant is total foolishness.

Why bother to wear a mask at all, if you are going to do that?


Those of us who are serious about our health would NEVER do this.

I cook all our meals at home. It is cheaper, healthier - and where we can eat comfortably, without a mask.

 

[Kathy in FL]

If people were compelled to wear n95 or p100 masks supplied at their own expense and forced to change them daily, the mask mandate would have died long ago. It survives because people were allowed an easy work around.

Properly worn. My son had to wear one before he entered hospital as a staff person. He wound up having to go to a dermatologist for sores and resulting scars from wearing a properly and professionally fitted N95/N100 for hours on end and days on end due to infection protocol in the hospital setting. His entire face hurt ... from a professionally sized and fitted mask. Most of the staff at the hospital had something similar. His was worse because his skin is a little more sensitive but otherwise all of the hospital staff forced to use the infection protocol the entire time they were on hospital grounds developed some type of facial irritation from the masks.

And you had to change the mask every time you changed patients along with gloves, paper gowns, etc.

My son never got covid ... as a matter of fact none of my immediate household caught it. We are all O's however ... both positives and negatives. My parents didn't catch it because for the most part hubby and I brought everything to them, then moved them down near us (for other health and financial reasons, not covid) and though they had wider exposure they never caught it either.

My brother on the other hand and his wife and their household caught it at least three times ... my sister in law and her children have some kind of genetic autoimmune thing and my brother takes arthritis meds that lower his immune response to anything/everything.

Everyone on here probably knows that our business deals with the public and their household habits ... we're landlords. Despite refusing to wear a mask and dealing with households that were infectious we still never got it. One of our workers did but he also takes arthritis meds.

Masks do not predict whether you are going to get covid or not. As a matter of fact masks can become a vector of infection. Your own health and meds you take if any is a bigger predictor and/or preventative than masks are.

 

[Troke]

We’ve had this exact conversation about FIVE HUNDRED TIMES. Evidently Troke was on sabbatical every time we did.

This study says that properly selected and applied masks work on the individual basis. But not so much if forced on the masses.

I thought that TBK's position is that masks are totally worthless. I guess I didn't get the memo. .

 

[Barry Natchitoches]

most of us - perhaps more correctly stated - "EVER INCREASING NUMBERS OF US" don't care if you mask or DO NOT mask…

Include me among these.

I have NEVER demanded that you - or anybody else - wear a mask.

Not at any time.

I do not make such demands of others in the meat world, either.

I wear protection to protect my wife.

And I wear enough to protect me if you choose not to mask up.

Do what you feel is best for yourself and your family.

And I will do likewise.


But I cannot sit silently when folks say masks do not work, any more than I can sit silent when others say clot shots help prevent illness.

That, too, is believed by others, as fervently as many of you feel the masks are useless.
.

And that belief, too, is wrong.

 

[blueinterceptor]

Properly worn. My son had to wear one before he entered hospital as a staff person. He wound up having to go to a dermatologist for sores and resulting scars from wearing a properly and professionally fitted N95/N100 for hours on end and days on end due to infection protocol in the hospital setting. His entire face hurt ... from a professionally sized and fitted mask. Most of the staff at the hospital had something similar. His was worse because his skin is a little more sensitive but otherwise all of the hospital staff forced to use the infection protocol the entire time they were on hospital grounds developed some type of facial irritation from the masks.

And you had to change the mask every time you changed patients along with gloves, paper gowns, etc.

My son never got covid ... as a matter of fact none of my immediate household caught it. We are all O's however ... both positives and negatives. My parents didn't catch it because for the most part hubby and I brought everything to them, then moved them down near us (for other health and financial reasons, not covid) and though they had wider exposure they never caught it either.

My brother on the other hand and his wife and their household caught it at least three times ... my sister in law and her children have some kind of genetic autoimmune thing and my brother takes arthritis meds that lower his immune response to anything/everything.

Everyone on here probably knows that our business deals with the public and their household habits ... we're landlords. Despite refusing to wear a mask and dealing with households that were infectious we still never got it. One of our workers did but he also takes arthritis meds.

Masks do not predict whether you are going to get covid or not. As a matter of fact masks can become a vector of infection. Your own health and meds you take if any is a bigger predictor and/or preventative than masks are

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[Pinecone]

My husband, going through chemotherapy, also took zinc, C,D3, and multivitamins (as did I). That did the most for him, myself, and most likely you.

It kills me. We survived the pandemic and all it’s stupidity, but the Bleomycin chemotherapy killed my husband by fibrosing his lungs.

I'm so sorry. Condolences to you and your family.

 

[TheSearcher]

This study says that properly selected and applied masks work on the individual basis. But not so much if forced on the masses.

I thought that TBK's position is that masks are totally worthless. I guess I didn't get the memo. .

No, the study does not say that. It says that the effectiveness of attempts to mandate masks (among other things) is inconclusive.

The ABC News experts say that there is a proper masking protocol and that the protocol works.

 

[Pinecone]

Prayers for you and your wife, Barry. You are a good man. Your wife must be an incredible lady to deserve you!