ALERT The Winds of War Blow in Korea and The Far East

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Already Happened‏ @M3t4_tr0n · 5h5 hours ago

1/3 China & India reportedly beef up borders around Sikkim area DF-16 MRBM; HQ-17 (TorCopy), HQ-16, AirDef systems


This is not Korea, but tensions increasing between China and India
 

Tortie

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Here is what Bill Richardson, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and an expert on North Korea (per CBS) , said to CBS news about intelligence failure:


CBS: Lastly, Mr. Ambassador, U.S. intelligence seemed to be surprised by the technical advances in North Korea. Does that worry you?

RICHARDSON: That worries me because we should've been on this long ago. We should consider finding ways to put more intelligence, over-flights, more spies, because we were caught off guard. North Korea was way more advanced than our intelligence people told us. That's a massive intelligence failure that should never happen again.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/richard...-failure/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=40790171
 
Here is what Bill Richardson, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and an expert on North Korea (per CBS) , said to CBS news about intelligence failure:


CBS: Lastly, Mr. Ambassador, U.S. intelligence seemed to be surprised by the technical advances in North Korea. Does that worry you?

RICHARDSON: That worries me because we should've been on this long ago. We should consider finding ways to put more intelligence, over-flights, more spies, because we were caught off guard. North Korea was way more advanced than our intelligence people told us. That's a massive intelligence failure that should never happen again.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/richard...-failure/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=40790171

Well, maybe if our intel f*ckers didn't have their heads so far up OUR ASSES and colluding with the media and the left they could have been paying attention to those that need it.
 

Countrymouse

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It was WILLFUL IGNORANCE on the parts of the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations.

I had sense enough to know in the 1990's when Jimmy Carter negotiated this for Bill Clinton where it was going, and I don't consider myself any kind of exalted genius or clairvoyant.


They did not WANT to see what they did not WISH to see....
 

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The Intel Crab‏ @IntelCrab · 13m13 minutes ago

#NorthKorea held a massive rally in #Pyongyang today to "fully support the statement of the #DPRK government."
 

northern watch

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It was WILLFUL IGNORANCE on the parts of the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations.

I had sense enough to know in the 1990's when Jimmy Carter negotiated this for Bill Clinton where it was going, and I don't consider myself any kind of exalted genius or clairvoyant.


They did not WANT to see what they did not WISH to see....

Yes I agree with this
 

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The Intel Crab‏ @IntelCrab · 8m8 minutes ago

The #US continues to prepare for any eventuality as @PacificCommand chimes in on twitter.
 

Housecarl

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Hummm....

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https://www.thecipherbrief.com/column/strategic-view/gambling-catastrophe-korean-peninsula

Gambling with Catastrophe on the Korean Peninsula

AUGUST 9, 2017 | MIKE CHINOY

If there has been one common refrain from the Trump administration, it is that President Barack Obama’s policy of “strategic patience” towards North Korea was not effective in deterring Pyongyang from pursuing its nuclear ambitions. But President Donald Trump and his advisers appear to have replaced strategic patience with an approach that can only be described as “strategic incoherence” – which is also unlikely to work, but carries a far greater risk of sparking a dangerous crisis, whether by design or miscalculation.

The mixed signals have been coming for months. Trump himself has vacillated between declaring he would be “honored” to meet North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and warning that if Pyongyang escalates its nuclear threat, it will be met “with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which the world has never seen.”

A few days ago, CIA chief Mike Pompeo made less than subtle hints that the U.S. would favor regime change, telling the Aspen security conference in Colorado, “I am hopeful we will find a way to separate that regime from this system,” and noting that he was “sure the people of North Korea would love to see him [Kim} go.”

Yet just days later, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who in March announced that “the policy of strategic patience has ended” and that “all options are on the table,” declared the U.S. was not seeking to topple the North Korean regime. The same day, however, Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said Trump had told him he was ready to launch military strikes against the North if Pyongyang doesn’t back down.

Meanwhile, Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said recently, “Many people have talked about military options [against North Korea] with words like ‘unimaginable.’ What’s unimaginable to me is allowing a capability that would allow a nuclear weapon to land in Denver, Colorado.”

For his part, Defense Secretary James Mattis has taken a more cautious posture, warning that a new conflict in Korea “would be a catastrophic war if this turns into a combat if we’re not able to resolve this situation through diplomatic means.”

Early in the administration, Trump put all his eggs in the China basket. Trying to capitalize on what he saw as his great new “friendship” with Chinese leader Xi Jinping, the President effectively mortgaged other U.S. priorities – trade, the South China Sea, Taiwan—for what he hoped would be Chinese help in dealing with North Korea.

The Chinese made some statements critical of North Korea and took a few steps to signal their displeasure with Pyongyang. But China’s strategic calculus remains the same. As much as Beijing dislikes Kim Jong-un and disapproves of his nuclear ambitions, it is much more concerned about maintaining stability in North Korea and preserving the North as a buffer against a pro-American South Korea. This has meant that Chinese companies have continued to do business with Pyongyang while Beijing’s has shown at best lukewarm enthusiasm for tighter international sanctions.

With the North continuing to make dramatic progress in its capabilities – its most recent test led analysts to conclude a North Korean missile may now be able to hit the American Midwest – Trump has begun to sour on China. He told journalists “if China is not going to solve North Korea, we will,” and has supported moves to impose sanctions on Chinese firms doing business with the North, while getting tougher with China on other issues, like trade. Whether this will prompt Xi Jinping to get tougher on Kim Jong-un, however, remains an open question. China’s past behavior suggests the answer will be no. Indeed, it may well be that China’s decision to support the latest UN sanctions resolution was taken in part to avoid the Trump administration imposing so-called secondary sanctions that would target Chinese companies doing business with North Korea, as well as delay U.S. moves on Sino-American trade.

With the North’s continuing missile tests, there has been increasing talk about the need for the U.S. to adopt a much more robust policy of deterrence by bolstering its military posture in the region and making it clear to Pyongyang that any use of nuclear weapons will lead to the total destruction of North Korea. Since there is no good military option for the U.S. to pre-emptively take out the North’s nuclear and missile facilities, the logic of boosting deterrence is clear. But that will do little to prevent the North from continuing to develop its nuclear and missile capabilities, which, even if not used in a conflict, will give Kim Jong-un new leverage to apply in his ongoing contest with the capitalist South and his long-standing hostile relationship with Japan. That, in turn, could lead both Seoul and Tokyo to consider developing their own nuclear weapons.

Under these circumstances, with the military option so terrifying and the prospects for sanctions mixed at best—indeed, there is little evidence that previous sanctions, even when they have inflicted pain on North Korea, have prompted Pyongyang to change its behavior—a strong case can be made that heightened deterrence should be accompanied by a serious effort to talk to the North Koreans – not only to make clear they understand the risks of the path they are on, but also to see if there is any prospect of an interim deal that would freeze their nuclear and missile activities before they are further developed.

As Robert Gallucci, who negotiated the 1994 Agreed Framework deal that froze Pyongyang’s nuclear program for nearly a decade, has noted, “the idea that we would use force before we explored the possibility of negotiating an outcome is nutty and irresponsible.”

Indeed, lost among the dramatic headlines of the past couple of weeks have been some intriguing signs that the Trump administration may still be open to some kind of diplomacy. The State Department’s point man on North Korea, Joseph Yun, has held at least two sets of meetings with the North Koreans since the spring—one in Europe, one in Pyongyang. The ostensible reason was the fate of American student Otto Warmbier, who was brought back to the U.S. by Yun only to die days later. Presumably, however, Yun and the North Koreans talked about more than Warmbier’s condition.

But Warmbier’s death soured an already fraught atmosphere, leading to a U.S. ban on American tourists visiting North Korea and likely halting diplomatic contact. The timing of North Korea’s most recent missile test could well have been a signal to Washington that Pyongyang will accelerate efforts to strengthen what it calls its “deterrent” if the U.S. remains unwilling to negotiate.

That may help explain Tillerson’s comment at the ASEAN Regional Forum in Manila this week that the U.S. was ready to talk to Pyongyang if the North stops its missile tests, as well as his intriguing remark that “we have other means of communication open to them, to certainly hear from them if they have a desire to want to talk.”

A key question now is whether the North will interpret this language as a signal that restraint could lead to more diplomatic contact with Washington. One key test will be how the North responds to the latest UN sanctions, the most sweeping yet to be imposed – specifically whether it will stage its sixth nuclear test. Although there have been numerous occasions for the North to carry out a nuclear test since Trump took office- the birthday of Kim Jong-un’s father in February, of his grandfather in April, and the anniversary of the founding of the North Korean armed forces that same month – Pyongyang has so far not done so.

To take such a step now would mean the end of any prospect of diplomacy and a further escalation of tensions. But s long as the North holds back, it remains remotely possible that, despite the predictably extreme rhetoric from North Korea’s Foreign Minister in Manila this week, the door to talks with Washington – which China and Russia strongly favor—will remain open.

Even if talks were to take place, however, the prospects of an agreement would still be bleak—and not only because the North, with its track record of walking away from previous deals, will likely demand recognition as a nuclear state or demand an unacceptably high price, even for a missile or nuclear test freeze. The U.S. has its own dubious track record of failing to live up to the previous deals negotiated with Pyongyang. Moreover, Washington’s credibility as an interlocutor is likely to be undermined by the Trump administration’s continuing tough talk about walking away from the nuclear deal with Iran. As former Obama national security aide Ben Rhodes recently tweeted, “If Trump tears up the Iran deal even though Iran is complying, why will China or DPRK think he’ll stick to a nuclear deal on the Korean peninsula?”

North Korea’s main motivation for developing a nuclear capability has long been to ensure the survival of the regime. Contrary to much of the conventional wisdom, Kim Jong-un is not crazy. He is a ruthless, cold-eyed dictator with a clear idea of what he is doing. The danger in the current situation is that he—like the rest of the world—cannot be clear what the Trump administration is aiming to achieve. That opens the door for miscalculation, for each side to be tempted to strike for fear the other one will do so first, or for an accidental or limited clash of the kind that has so often occurred over the years, to quickly escalate out of control. There is no obvious or easy solution, but some strategic clarity from Washington – if Donald Trump is capable of such a thing – might reduce the danger of a catastrophe on the Korean peninsula.



DIPLOMACY NORTH KOREA NUCLEAR WEAPONS
THE AUTHOR IS MIKE CHINOY

Mike Chinoy is a Senior Fellow at the U.S.-China Institute at the University of Southern California and the creator of the Assignment China documentary film series on the history of American journalists in China. He is the author of two book on North Korea: Meltdown: The Inside Story of the North Korean Nuclear Crisis and The Last POW.

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OldArcher

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Yes I agree with this

I disagree with Countrymouse and northern watch on this... Everybody from the Bush's, Clinton's, and Obama, is a traitor, serving their globalist masters, rather than being accountable to the Constitution, and "We, the People." "Willful Ignorance" is a copout... They are traitors, and as such, should be tried, convicted, and hanged- in public, in glorious 4K color- live, for all the world to see...

Until the globalists like Soros are removed from the face of the earth, there can be no peace...

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Reuters Top News‏Verified account @Reuters · 18m18 minutes ago

JUST IN: South Korea's military says it is prepared to immediately act against any North Korean provocation

 

Housecarl

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DOT....

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https://www.voanews.com/a/on-nagasa...threat-tests-japan-nuclear-taboo/3978611.html

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On Nagasaki Anniversary, North Korea Threat Tests Japan’s Nuclear Taboo

Last Updated: August 09, 2017 3:55 PM
Henry Ridgwell

TOKYO, JAPAN —
As North Korea and the United States increase rhetoric on Pyongyang’s nuclear weapons program, long-held taboos are being broken in neighboring Japan – the only country to have suffered nuclear bombardment, at the end of World War II.

Analysts say the debate over whether Tokyo should develop nuclear weapons of its own is moving from the far right fringes to the political mainstream.

A Japanese Defense Ministry White Paper this week echoed reported concerns within the U.S. intelligence community, that Pyongyang has achieved the key final step of miniaturizing nuclear warheads – enabling it to deliver atomic bombs.

Former Japanese Defense Ministry adviser Narushige Michishita, now an analyst at Tokyo’s National Graduate Institute for Policy Studies, says the country would have minimal warning in the event of a nuclear missile launch.

“It’s quite likely even that North Korea can attack Tokyo with nuclear weapons today. And so if missiles are launched, it will reach Japan within 10 minutes," said Michishita. "From the time we detect the missile until the time it impacts on Japanese territory, we would have six or seven minutes.”

North Korea is believed by some observers to have more than 200 so-called "No Dong" missiles capable of carrying warheads that put Japan well within range. An attack on a crowded city like Tokyo would put hundreds of thousands of lives at risk.

WATCH: North Korea Threat Tests Japan's Nuclear Taboo
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Japan’s constitution allows military action only in self-defense. Some lawmakers want that definition extended to allow Japan to acquire preemptive strike capabilities to counter North Korea.

Hawkish conservatives go further, among them Finance Minister Taro Aso. He has argued that Japan should keep open the option of developing nuclear weapons as a deterrent. The country already has a large stockpile of nuclear fuel from its civilian power program.

The issue is openly debated in South Korea. But polls show just five percent of Japanese want their country to be a nuclear power.

Security analyst Kuni Miyake, with Tokyo’s Canon Institute of Global Affairs, said, “We face the threat from North Korea. But it doesn't mean we will react with nuclear weapons. I don’t think we will go nuclear in the foreseeable future. Even if South Korea might go, we will be the last.”

Narushige Michishita questions whether nuclear weapons would offer Tokyo diplomatic leverage.

“If we possess nuclear weapons and say we would retaliate if North Korea used nuclear weapons against us, is it credible? I don’t think so. And North Korea is not trying to attack us with nuclear weapons. They would be threatening us to do so in order to prevent us from assisting South Korea. That’s their objective," said Michishita.

This week marked the anniversary of the 1945 Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear bombings, which killed hundreds of thousands of people. The commemorations were clouded by renewed fears of war on the Korean peninsula.

“There still are nearly 15,000 nuclear weapons in the world. Tension is mounting when it comes to the international situation surrounding nuclear weapons. Strong fears are spreading that nuclear weapons may be used in the not-so-distant future,” Nagasaki Mayor Taue Tomihisa said in a speech Wednesday to mark the 72nd anniversary of the city’s destruction.

At the same ceremony, Japan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe reiterated the country’s long-held position: “Here in Nagasaki, a city that continues to pray for perpetual peace, I reaffirm my commitment to realizing a peaceful world without nuclear weapons."

Some analysts question whether that commitment would be tested if Japan came under attack. For now, the likelihood of Japan acquiring nuclear weapons appears remote.
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

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Makes sense to me.

Some observers have a difficult time of making sense of Mr. Kim, believing he is to be trusted as to the harmless intent and capacity of his missiles and then believing Mr. Kim is all puff and not to be believed when he says that 'only absolute force’ will work with Trump.
If Mr. Kim looks like he is preparing to launch, I would send a whole tribe and reservation full of Tomahawks et al his way.
Col North suggested that tactical nukes be sent to SK. This would give a quick real punch to the hard sites, since we reconfigured the Tomahawks to be camel busters with no nuke capacity. Another bad deal.
The stakes are very high. If Mr. Kim takes out Guam, the US government may topple, with a quick succession of California, and cat fights between old men in Congress, as numerous Obama Generals, officers, and Combat Commands refusin to obey
orders.
Interesting times, but they may not last long.
SS
 

Housecarl

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Some observers have a difficult time of making sense of Mr. Kim, believing he is to be trusted as to the harmless intent and capacity of his missiles and then believing Mr. Kim is all puff and not to be believed when he says that 'only absolute force’ will work with Trump.
If Mr. Kim looks like he is preparing to launch, I would send a whole tribe and reservation full of Tomahawks et al his way.
Col North suggested that tactical nukes be sent to SK. This would give a quick real punch to the hard sites, since we reconfigured the Tomahawks to be camel busters with no nuke capacity. Another bad deal.
The stakes are very high. If Mr. Kim takes out Guam, the US government may topple, with a quick succession of California, and cat fights between old men in Congress, as numerous Obama Generals, officers, and Combat Commands refusin to obey
orders.
Interesting times, but they may not last long.
SS

If Kim did shoot the real thing into Guam and take it out, the Admin would go into CoG mode, just like 9/11, except they'd know the return addresses for the replies.

Recall, that means anyone still in the butt head mode the "loyal opposition" currently is in is in a state of sedition and subject to everything that comes with that "for the duration...".
 

Lilbitsnana

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except they gave a DATE---middle of August---which is next week....


No surprise. Also, from what little I have seen the last few days (on twitter), kimmie boy plans on playing with Guam the same way he has been playing with Japan the last few months.


He will be testing and refining various things and possibly provoking a response from US.


reposting a post I made on July 31:


N.K. likely to fire more missiles, conduct nuke test: Seoul



With the current situation, any day is possible, but the upcoming NK holidays which makes tests more likely ( +/- a couple of days range from holiday) are:



15 August Liberation Day[5] Established after the liberation of Korea in 1945.

25 August Day of Songun[5] A new holiday established in 2013 commemorating Kim Jong-il's inspection visit to the Seoul Ryu Kyong Su Guards 105th Armored Division of the Korean People's Army on August 25, 1960, which is always regarded as the "start of the Songun revolutionary leadership" by the North Korean government.

9 September Day of the Foundation of the Republic[5] Founding of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea in 1948.




ETA: also, the Norks sent out another coded message on the 5th and most of the time a test of some kind follows within a few days up to a week or two
 
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night driver

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If Kim did shoot the real thing into Guam and take it out, the Admin would go into CoG mode, just like 9/11, except they'd know the return addresses for the replies.

Recall, that means anyone still in the butt head mode the "loyal opposition" currently is in is in a state of sedition and subject to everything that comes with that "for the duration...".

And if the *AHEM* "NEW" PTB decide to declare SIEGE those little issues might get quickly, summarily, and PERMANENTLY handled. Not even the UCMJ would protect the Generals...

Research the concept of a Declaration of Siege if you want to lose your appetite for a while.
 

Housecarl

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And if the *AHEM* "NEW" PTB decide to declare SIEGE those little issues might get quickly, summarily, and PERMANENTLY handled. Not even the UCMJ would protect the Generals...

Research the concept of a Declaration of Siege if you want to lose your appetite for a while.

September 1942
Martial Law and the State of Siege
Max Radin
http://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3657&context=californialawreview
(15 page PDF with annotations...HC)

Journal of the Military Service Institution of the United States, Volume 20
edited by James Clark Bush
https://books.google.com/books?id=Q...TDAG#v=onepage&q=Declaration of Siege&f=false

Fundamina (Pretoria) vol.19 n.2 Pretoria Feb. 2013

L'état d'exception and/or a state of siege: what is really wrong with section 9(2) of the Constitution of Cameroon?

Gerard Emmanuel Kamdem Kamga*
Doctoral candidate, Department of Legal History and Jurisprudence, Faculty of Law, University of Pretoria

ABSTRACT

Section 9(2) of the Constitution of Cameroon relating to emergency regimes, in its French version provides for "l'état d'exception" whereas the English version of the same text provides for "a state of siege". In this paper I show that French and English being the official languages in Cameroon, the wording "l'état d'exception", which literally means "state of exception" in English, cannot be understood to be a state of siege which translated into genuine French would mean "l'état de siège". Whereas in l'état d'exception there is a concentration of power in the hands of the executive and the provisional abolition of the separation of legislative, executive and judicial powers, in a state of siege responsibility for during a crisis the security of the city is transferred from the administrative authorities to the army. The current provisions of section 9(2) of the Constitution of Cameroon are confusing and I therefore examine the fundamental differences between the two emergency institutions from legal and historical perspectives. I emphasise the impact of such confusion on human rights and the rule of law in Cameroon. In essence, I demonstrate that "l'état d'exception" and "a state of siege" as currently defined by section 9(2), appear to be mechanisms allowing gross human rights violations and conferring comprehensive powers designed to paralyse the rule of law.

http://www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1021-545X2013000200008
 

Housecarl

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Some rehash.....

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-mocks-trump-hones-guam-strike-plans-030522162.html

North Korea mocks Trump, hones Guam strike plans

Park Chan-Kyong
AFP
August 9, 2017

Nuclear-armed North Korea mocked President Donald Trump as "bereft of reason" Thursday, raising the stakes in their stand-off with an unusually detailed plan to send a salvo of missiles towards the US territory of Guam.

The scheme to target the island, a key US military stronghold, was intended to "signal a crucial warning" as "only absolute force" would have an effect on the US leader, the North said.

The declaration came after Trump boasted on Twitter that America's nuclear arsenal was "far stronger and more powerful than ever before".

Earlier, Trump stunned the world with a bold-faced message to leader Kim Jong-Un that appeared to borrow from Pyongyang's own rhetorical arsenal, saying the North faced "fire and fury like the world has never seen".

The war of words over Pyongyang's nuclear and missile programmes is raising fears of a miscalculation that could lead to catastrophic consequences on the Korean peninsula and beyond.

Last month the North carried out two successful tests of an intercontinental ballistic missile, bringing much of the US mainland within its range.

Trump's "fire and fury" remarks were "a load of nonsense", said General Kim Rak-Gyom, the commander of the North's missile forces, according to Pyongyang's official Korean Central News Agency.

"Sound dialogue is not possible with such a guy bereft of reason," he added in a statement.

The military would complete the Guam plan by mid-August and submit it to Kim Jong-Un for consideration, he said.

The distinctively precise statement said the four missiles would be launched simultaneously and overfly the Japanese prefectures of Shimane, Hiroshima and Koichi.

They would have a flight time of 17 minutes 45 seconds, travel 3,356.7 kilometres (around 2,086 miles) and come down 30 to 40 kilometres away from Guam, it said -- which would put the impact points just outside US territorial waters.

Japan, which has in the past warned it would shoot down any North Korean missiles that threaten its territory, responded quickly to insist it can "never tolerate" provocations from the reclusive state.

The western Pacific island of Guam is home to US strategic assets including long-range bombers and military jets and submarines, which are regularly deployed for shows of force in and near the Korean peninsula, to Pyongyang's fury.

Two supersonic US bombers took off from the island on a fly-over mission to Korea early this week.

Professor Yang Moo-Jin of Seoul's University of North Korean Studies said the level of detail in Pyongyang's declaration was unusual.

"The North appears to be saying what it is going to do is within international laws," he told AFP. "Therefore, it cannot be ruled out that the North may translate this plan into reality."

During the Cold War in the 1980s the Soviet Union sent unarmed missiles to come down in the Pacific within 1,000 kilometres of Hawaii.

Analysts said a North Korean launch towards Guam would put the US in a dilemma: if it did not attempt to intercept the missiles, its credibility would be damaged and the North would feel emboldened to carry out a full-range ICBM test.

But if an intercept was attempted and any of the rockets got through it would undermine the effectiveness of the United States' ballistic missile defence.

"This is a coercive threat to halt B-1 flights," Adam Mount, senior fellow of the Center for American Progress said on Twitter.

"Unlike Trump's vague, incendiary threat, DPRK's is coercive, clear, specific, and has credible escalation potential. Response is difficult."

Thousands of North Koreans marched through central Pyongyang Wednesday, waving clenched fists, as authorities put on a show of support for their stance.

One banner proclaimed: "10 million hearts burn with vows to defend the fatherland until death."

Seoul's military said the North would face "strong and resolute retaliation" in the event of an attack.

- 'Life and death' -

Tensions on the Korean peninsula tend to increase when Seoul and Washington launch major military joint exercises, and the next, Ulchi Freedom Guardian, is set to kick off around August 21.

"Pyongyang's interpretation of rhetoric from Washington is different from the way the West regards the North's habitual threats. It views such fiery rhetoric from Trump as a matter of life and death," said Hong Hyun-Ik, a senior researcher with the Sejong Institute.

US Defense Secretary Jim Mattis on Wednesday warned the North to "stand down" in its pursuit of nuclear weapons, saying Pyongyang "should cease any consideration of actions that would lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people".

Amid reports that Trump's comments had taken his inner circle by surprise, White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said the National Security Council and other officials knew the "president was going to respond... with a strong message in no uncertain terms".

State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said the Trump administration was all on "the same page".

But Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said he did not believe "there is any imminent threat" to Guam or other US targets, and expressed hope that diplomatic pressure would prevail in the crisis.

The United Nations imposed a seventh set of sanctions on Pyongyang at the weekend that could cost North Korea $1 billion a year, with even the regime's main ally China voting for the US-drafted proposal.


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Housecarl

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Hummm......

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/realsp...ution-to-the-north-korea-crisis/#6931b5185dd3

AUG 9, 2017 @ 06:24 PM

Remove Kim: The Most Viable Solution To The North Korea Crisis

GUEST POST WRITTEN BY
Ramon Collado
Mr. Collado is a writer with a graduate degree from New York University's Center for Global Affairs.

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Pyongyang continues to increase tensions in the Korean peninsula by recent military activity and constant efforts to develop nuclear weapons and long-range missiles. Since February 2017, North Korea has conducted twelve missile tests with a total of eighteen missiles. In response to the increasing frequency of missile tests, the United States has deployed an anti-missile system to South Korea: The Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system.

In January and September 2016, North Korea conducted its fourth and fifth nuclear weapons test, claiming to have detonated its first hydrogen bomb in January. In February 2016, North Korea fired a long-range rocket to launch a satellite into orbit. In March 2016, North Korea announced that it had created a nuclear device small enough to fit on a ballistic missile. In June 2016, Pyongyang succeeded in testing a Musudan intermediate range missile. The Musudan missile expanded North Korea’s threat radius outside of the Korean peninsula, to include Japan, Guam, and U.S. Navy vessels operating in the Pacific Ocean theater. In July, Pyongyang tested two Hwasong-14 missiles capable of reaching anywhere in the world.

North Korea is believed to possess one thousand missiles of varying capabilities and ranges including: Nodong (1,300km); Taepodong 1 (2,000km); Musudan (4,000km); and Taepodong 2 (8,000km). Kim Jong Un has also consolidated his power by eliminating high-ranking officials, including his own family members. In February, Kim Jong Un's half-brother, Kim Jong Nam, was killed using a banned nerve agent in an airport in Malaysia. Pyongyang denies responsibility for the attack.

The U.S. has appealed to China for a solution to this crisis—China has banned imports of coal from North Korea, cutting off its most important export product—but China’s efforts have not deterred North Korea from performing missile tests and advancing its nuclear program. Additionally, despite United Nations, U.S., South Korea, and Japan’s economic restrictions and sanctions, Kim remains defiant, while ruling North Korea with an iron fist—over 100 government officials are believed to have been executed under Kim’s regime. There are between 80,000 and 120,000 political prisoners detained in North Korea.

China is North Korea’s most important ally and trading partner—83% of North Korea’s output is purchased by China—hence, North Korea’s erratic behavior represents a geopolitical paradox for China. On the one hand, China doesn’t benefit from instability in the Korean peninsula, because a refugee exodus in the region will affect China tremendously—also, China’s lucrative trade relations with South Korea and Japan would be affected. On the other hand, China will not support a U.S. intervention in North Korea, nor the removal of Kim, nor a unification of the Korean peninsula, because those alternatives would entail a stronger U.S. presence across China’s Yalu and Tumen rivers, and would strengthen the relationship between the U.S., South Korea, and Japan.

With or without China’s assistance, however, the U.S. must continue to develop strategies to solve the North Korea Crisis. Nonetheless, while diplomatic efforts fail to defuse tensions in the Korean peninsula, U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson stated that "all options are on the table" with respect to North Korea. Further, U.S. President Donald Trump stated that North Korea will face "fire and fury" if it continues to threaten the U.S. Within hours of President Trump's threat, Pyongyang said it was considering striking the U.S. territory of Guam with ballistic missiles.

Given North Korea’s robust military might and volatility as a state, this crisis requires an incisive approach—North Korea’s armed forces account with 1.19 million members, 21,000 artillery pieces, 3,500 battle tanks, 72 submarines and 563 combat aircraft. Should Pyongyang continue its threatening, defiant behavior, Washington must assess the option of surgically removing Kim from power before he makes good on his threats and an armed conflict explodes in the Korean peninsula, causing a bloodshed, a refugee exodus, and grave instability in the region.

Diplomacy and sanctions have thus far failed to halt North Korea’s nuclear program. At this stage within the crisis, the U.S. and its allies have time to forecast the consequences of Kim’s removal; in contrast, if North Korea strikes first, retaliatory measures would have to be adopted with very short notice, catching the U.S. and its allies off guard. Therefore, Kim’s removal emerges as the most viable solution to this complex crisis, as it is improbable that China will go against North Korea to benefit the U.S. and its allies in the region—maintaining the status quo in North Korea is more profitable for China than the destabilization of Kim’s regime. Kim’s erratic behavior indicates that there is no easy solution to this crisis. Hence, the U.S. must work alongside its allies in the region to remove Kim from power. Intelligence sharing and cooperation between the U.S., South Korea, and Japan are pivotal for a potential removal of Kim to succeed.
 

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RICHARDSON: That worries me because we should've been on this long ago. We should consider finding ways to put more intelligence, over-flights, more spies, because we were caught off guard. North Korea was way more advanced than our intelligence people told us. That's a mass intelligence failure that should never happen again.

Oh, intelligence was aware. They KNEW. They just didn't share that information with anyone else; us dirt people.
 

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Russian Market‏Verified account @russian_market · 4h4 hours ago

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China is getting ready for a North Korean move?
 

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Chris Cavas‏Verified account @CavasShips · 8h8 hours ago

#Russia, #China to hold another round of #naval exercises in Sept out of #Vladivostok in the seas of Japan, Okhotsk

 

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For 3rd time under President Trump, US Navy destroyer challenges China claim by sailing warship under 12 nautical miles from Mischief Reef
 

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Rumors : North Korea has just publicly declared its intent to "test" nuclear devices "in the atmosphere above international waters."
 

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The Intelligence Community is in consensus. #DPRK can produce a mateable compact warhead. Means they can fit a weapon onto their missiles
 

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#Japan has put its PAC-3 missile interceptors on alert following #DPRK threat to #Guam
 

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NORTH KOREA: CIA, other spy agencies agree North Korea can fit nuclear weapon on missile - NBC
 

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GUAM: North Korea missiles can reach the island in 14 minutes: Guam Homeland Security spokeswoman

 

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more rehash:

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/this-is-the-closest-that-the-u-s-has-been-to-nuclear-war-since-the-cuban-missile-crisis

This Is The Closest That The U.S. Has Been To Nuclear War Since The Cuban Missile Crisis

By Michael Snyder, on August 8th, 2017

Are we on the verge of a nuclear war with North Korea? It has now been confirmed that North Korea has successfully created a miniaturized nuclear warhead, and last month they tested a missile that can reach at least half of the continental United States. Since 1994 the U.S. has been trying to stop North Korea’s nuclear program, and every effort to do so has completely failed. Last September, the North Koreans detonated a nuclear device that was estimated to be in the 20 to 30 kiloton range, and back in January President Trump pledged to stop the North Koreans before they would ever have the capability to deliver such a weapon to U.S. cities. But now the North Koreans have already achieved that goal, and they plan to ultimately create an entire fleet of ICBMs capable of hitting every city in America.

Right now, North Korea and the Trump administration are locked in a game of nuclear chicken. Kim Jong Un’s regime is never, ever, ever going to give up their nuclear weapons program, and so that means that either Donald Trump is going to have to back down, find another way to deal with North Korea, or use military force to eliminate their nuclear threat.

And time is quickly running out for Trump to make a decision, because now that North Korea has the ability to produce miniaturized nuclear warheads, the game has completely changed. The following comes from the Washington Post…

North Korea has successfully produced a miniaturized nuclear warhead that can fit inside its missiles, crossing a key threshold on the path to becoming a full-fledged nuclear power, U.S. intelligence officials have concluded in a confidential assessment.

The new analysis completed last month by the Defense Intelligence Agency comes on the heels of another intelligence assessment that sharply raises the official estimate for the total number of bombs in the communist country’s atomic arsenal. The U.S. calculated last month that up to 60 nuclear weapons are now controlled by North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. Some independent experts believe the number of bombs is much smaller.

The truth is that nobody actually knows how many nukes North Korea has at this point, and they are pumping out more all the time.

Yes, the Trump administration could order an absolutely devastating military strike on North Korea. But if the North Koreans even get off one nuke in response, it will be the greatest disaster for humanity since at least World War II.

But at this point Trump doesn’t sound like someone that intends to back down. In fact, on Tuesday he threatened North Korea with “fire and fury” if they keep threatening us…

“North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States,” Trump said from the clubhouse at his golf course in Bedminster, N.J. “He has been very threatening beyond a normal state, and as I said they will be met with the fire and fury and frankly power, the likes of which this world has never seen before.”

In response to Trump’s comments, the North Koreans threatened to hit Guam with a pre-emptive strike…

If Trump thought that his bluff would be sufficient to finally shut up North Korea, and put an end to Kim’s provocative behavior, well… bluff called because North Korea’s state-run KCNA news agency reported moments ago that not only did N.Korea escalate the tensions up another notch, but explicitly warned that it could carry out a “pre-emptive operation once the US shows signs of provocation”, and that it is “seriously considering a strategy to strike Guam with mid-to-long range missiles.”

Most Americans appear to be completely oblivious to the seriousness of this crisis. Once we hit North Korea, they will respond. A single nuke could potentially kill millions in Tokyo, Japan or Seoul, South Korea. And the North Koreans also have some of the largest chemical and biological weapons stockpiles on the entire planet. If things take a bad turn, we could see death and destruction on a scale that is absolutely unprecedented.

And if the North Koreans launch an invasion of South Korea, we will instantly be committed to a new Korean War and thousands upon thousands of our young men and women will be sent over there to fight and die.

There is no possible way that a military conflict with North Korea is going to end well. If things go badly, millions could die, and if things go really badly tens of millions of people could end up dead.

But members of the Trump administration continue to insist that “a military option” is on the table…

In an interview broadcast Saturday on MSNBC’s Hugh Hewitt Show, national security adviser H.R. McMaster said the prospect of a North Korea armed with nuclear-tipped ICBMs would be “intolerable, from the president’s perspective.”

“We have to provide all options . . . and that includes a military option,” he said.

Of course letting North Korea construct an entire fleet of ICBMs that could endanger the entire planet is not exactly a palatable option either. The Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations all kicked the can down the road year after year, and now we facing a nightmare problem that does not appear to have a good solution.

Unfortunately for Trump, time has now run out and a decision has to be made…

“Today is the day that we can definitely say North Korea is a nuclear power,” Harry Kazianis, director of defense studies at the Center for the National Interest, told USA TODAY. “There is no more time to stick our heads in the sand and think we have months or years to confront this challenge.”

Let us pray that a way can be found to derail North Korea’s nuclear program that does not involve us going to war.

Because the moment that U.S. forces start striking North Korea, the North Koreans could literally unleash hell if they are inclined to do so.

It appears that we are now closer to nuclear war than we have been at any point since the Cuban missile crisis. A nuclear holocaust was avoided back then, and hopefully a way will be found to avoid one now.
 

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Japan could invoke right to ‘collective self-defence' if Guam attacked

Kosuke Takahashi - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
10 August 2017

Any missile attack by North Korea on the US territory of Guam in the western Pacific would breach the US deterrence against an attack on Japan, enabling Japan to exercise the right to ‘collective self-defence’, Japanese Defence Minister Itsunori Onodera said on 10 August.

North Korea’s Strategic Force of the Korean People's Army on 9 August issued a statement saying that it is considering firing four Hwasong-12 intermediate-range ballistic missiles (IRBMs) simultaneously toward waters 30 to 40 km off Guam, effectively as a ‘show of force’ to the Trump administration. It said it would complete its plan by mid-August.

In response to the North Korean statement, Onodera said an attack on Guam would be considered a so-called ‘survived threatening situation’ in Japan, or a Japanese national emergency, because it would threaten Japan’s existence as a nation.

http://www.janes.com/article/73032/...t-to-collective-self-defence-if-guam-attacked
 

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How could Japan shoot down any missile from North Korea aimed at Guam? Wouldn't they be way out of the range of their PAC-3 missile interceptors, no matter they were placed? Isn't their range less than 50 miles? The Norks missile would be way higher altitude than that I would think.
 
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