Ragenomore
Senior Member
So WHY did Obama not just produce it in the first place and save all the legal fees? Why didn't the DNC say, "Hey - just show the damned thing and lets move on"?
Something is just not lining up.
He did.
So WHY did Obama not just produce it in the first place and save all the legal fees? Why didn't the DNC say, "Hey - just show the damned thing and lets move on"?
Something is just not lining up.
that will not turn loose of this until it is revealed. There is something he is hiding that needs brought out into the light. No where did a state official say he was born in Hawaii, only that they held his certificate. Hawaii has some unique laws that would have allowed someone to request a live birth certificate without having been born in Hawaii. If that's all they have, it doesn't prove he was native born. If it does show he is native born then there is something else he isn't wanting us to know, a name change, a different father that one he has reported to the public, something is wrong. There is a reason he has a team of lawyers on this. It's not a dead horse until Obama makes it one, he is trying his best to bluff on this hand.
After Obama produced his birth certificate the demands were made for more records and after they are produced even more will be demanded.
A non issue that attempted to derail the campaign.
Obama handled it properly and that speaks well of the way he will handle the affairs of the nation as President. He will not go off half cocked and start wars on less than credible evidence.
don
Well, Granny in Kenya says he was born in a Kenyan hospital and that she was there when he was born. And Berg supposedly has her on tape saying it. I expect that to air soon, somewhere.
Oh yeah, and he has relatives living here illegally. Are we sure Michelle was born in the US or is she an illegal too?
Can you imagine the US electing an illegal Muslim to the Presidency? I mean the irony of it all after all the huff about illegals in this country and that might happen.
Pretty much blows my mind. ALL OF THIS! I can't believe this man is even getting airtime, let alone getting the nomination to begin with.
What kind of coolaid are they feeding the people who are voting for him? Is it coming thru the water pipes into their homes or what?
Martin issues challenge to Barack Obama: Stop lying to the American people and immediately authorize the release of your original, typewritten 1961 birth certificate
http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
So what's the problem, Obamaman...... Is there something you don't want seen?
No?
Then release the original, vault document and end this controversy already.
Jarhead
But of course stresses are here, and all over the U.S. because everyone is VERY concerned.
I have never seen my "vault" copy of my birth certificate.
Everytime I get a certified copy of it but never the original.
At some point one has to trust the official record keepers to present the copy as an official record.
I suspect there is no such thing as an "original vault" birth certificate but simply a ledger entry that the "certified copy" is produced from.
If there were a problem I am sure the Republican Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, would mention it.
But, please go ahead with these wild assed conspiracy theories. They are entertaining and do show just how desperate McCain supporters have become
don
Well when you consider the fact that someone uncovered his birth in Kenya and now the government of Kenya will not let anyone see or look at it! Thats admitting the fact they have it, the same can be said for his school records. All Stanley Ann Dunham's mom had to do when they got back to Honolulu airport was call some she knew and say she had the kid in the bed room and fill out the forms. So now he has two birth certificates but one of them is 5 or so days older.
Do you realize yet that the constitution and "law" are meaningless? They will do what they want, how they want and when they want. You have no power and no "rights". It's all an illusion.
Sad but true.
He hasn't released the original for the same reason I could not release the original of mine.Don:
You are not running for the Presidency of the U.S. so whether or not you have/seen an original copy of your's is a mute point.
This issue is not a new one and quite frankly, is getting a tad old. Conspiracy theories aside, why is Obama dragging his feet and not releasing the original of his birth certificate? Release same, problem solved.
There are a lot of questions floating around about his background, associates and legal standing to even run for the office. His holding out on a very simple resolution to the birth certificate question just further clouds the issues.
I really don't see race as an issue, only his qualifications to hold this office.
Jarhead
State of Hawai'i backs Andy Martin in Obama birth certificate battle
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
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ANNOUNCEMENT OF SATURDAY NEWS CONFERENCE IN CHICAGO
Internet powerhouse Andy Martin wins a major victory in Hawai'i as state officials examine and confirm the existence of Barack Obama's secret birth certificate
CNN and Factcheck.org are embarrassed; Martin demands retractions and apologies for their misleading reports
Andy vows to keep up the battle whatever happens on November 4th; a court hearing is scheduled in Honolulu for November 18th and Andy says, "I'll be there."
Martin's birth certificate litigation victory will roil the final weekend of the presidential campaign; the Internet Powerhouse is set to hold a Saturday news conference in Chicago and disclose new attacks on Obama
Martin issues challenge to Barack Obama: Stop lying to the American people and immediately authorize the release of your original, typewritten 1961 birth certificate
http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
Maybe you people should be looking for the doctor who delivered him. Would that shut you up?
Comments Oct 31, 2008 5:43 PM (2 hrs 28 mins ago) AP
2 hrs 28 ago: State declares Obama birth certificate genuine
HONOLULU (Map, News) - State officials say there's no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.
Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently.
She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.
Some Obama critics claim he was not born in the US.
Earlier Friday, a southwest Ohio magistrate rejected a challenge to Obama's citizenship. Judges in Seattle and Philadelphia recently dismissed similar suits.
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http://www.examiner.com/a-1666928~State_declares_Obama_birth_certificate_genuine.html