WEATHER Signs of winter?

Signwatcher

Veteran Member
Anybody notice any signs of an early and fierce winter coming?
My Maine coon kitty has a thick thick coat right now and I’ve seen a solid black woolly worm.

Anybody else?
Was talking to a friend I'm staying with this week and he says his cat has a very thick coat.

Me: It's the end of July. It's really hot! Bad moon rising analogy needs to be inserted here.
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It's so dry here in the PNW that I can't read the plant signs. Stuff is so drought stressed that a lot of the poison oak is turning red, the leaves on trees are curling badly or turning yellow, and some dropping way early. The Indian plum leaves and snowberry leaves are not just turning yellow but dropping off brown. The herbal growth is stunted and now dying. The cracks in the soil (clay here) are not just deep but getting wide. I teased DH that we'll have crevasses soon.

But the air in the morning, on days when the temperatures are near normal and not blazing hot, speak of the coming cold. And as much as I hate it, the continuous dark cloudy skies of October through April and the unrelenting drizzle are what is needed to break this tree killing drought.
 

pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
Here in central CO we have a wild plant(weed?) called mullien. It has medicinal uses, but it's main characteristic is the old wives tale that the height of the flower stem forecasts the snow accumulation total for the winter. This year, probably due to drought conditions, there is no mullien. That would suggest that we're forecast for a winter with little or no snow.
I had a mullen plant last summer with a 12 foot seed stalk. Alas, no snow here in GA last winter.

I didn't know that tidbit about mullen though. I love stuff like that. Thanks!
 

John Deere Girl

Veteran Member
Here in central CO we have a wild plant(weed?) called mullien. It has medicinal uses, but it's main characteristic is the old wives tale that the height of the flower stem forecasts the snow accumulation total for the winter. This year, probably due to drought conditions, there is no mullien. That would suggest that we're forecast for a winter with little or no snow.
Our mullien is around 6 ft tall.
 

Wildweasel

F-4 Phantoms Phorever
The most reliable sign of a bad winter is the sound of chainsaws running.
Chain saws running is also a sign of recent storms with high winds and the freaking ash borers finding your place. Winds got a couple of our big maples and we've had to have a half dozen ash trees taken down due to those damn Chinese bugs killing them.

An expensive couple of weeks. At least nothing went through the roof of the house or the barn roof.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Texas had its “fierce winter” this past season. Doubtful we’ll get one back-to-back. Also going to be 101 by weekend, so no. Nothing cool inbound.
 

Brass Scrounger

Contributing Member
Just noticed yesterday that the "naked ladies" flowers are up. I don't recall seeing them in July before - usually after the first week of August. When I see them, that is my first sign of Fall just around the corner.
 

Ogre

Veteran Member
Our dogwoods are turning red. Maples are dropping leaves. Today's temp was high 90's. Yet my Easter lilies just bloomed. We have azaleas that are blooming now. It is all goofy and mixed up!
And others. Location! Location! Location!
 

Jubilee on Earth

Veteran Member
I’m going to keep my eye out for any unusual signs. Right now in northern Michigan, we’re having unusually cool temps for end of July. We usually start seeing this kind of cool down around the 3rd-4th week of August. I don’t see us getting to 79 today. It’s cloudy and breezy and very cool. Hoodie weather.

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pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
Western Washington. The garden plants are all going haywire and can't figure out what season it is. Tomatoes are already getting ready to pick, a month early. The air this morning smelled and felt like Fall. I think that we might just have a long "late summer" season. Hoping we can somehow skip the month of heavy smoke in September but it's not looking good.
.....Yes, my racoons here in shitattle have already started putting on heavy coats and spiders are coming inside now, not October. The morning air does have a fall like feel to it.
 

Wildweasel

F-4 Phantoms Phorever
I’m going to keep my eye out for any unusual signs. Right now in northern Michigan, we’re having unusually cool temps for end of July. We usually start seeing this kind of cool down around the 3rd-4th week of August. I don’t see us getting to 79 today. It’s cloudy and breezy and very cool. Hoodie weather.

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Northeastern PA here. We're seeing forecasts for highs in the 70s and lows in the 50s next week. That's normally mid-September weather. Locally that's cool weather before the county fair, which is usually a hot and miserable week in mid-August.

The last time I can recall weather like that was in 1997-98, when we saw 7 feet of snow in one week plus several major snow storms (30 inches plus) through the rest of the winter.
 
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Southside

Veteran Member
Chain saws running is also a sign of recent storms with high winds and the freaking ash borers finding your place. Winds got a couple of our big maples and we've had to have a half dozen ash trees taken down due to those damn Chinese bugs killing them.

An expensive couple of weeks. At least nothing went through the roof of the house or the barn roof.
I was fortunate.
All my Ash trees were on the parkway. The village came and cut & ground them.
On another note, my 3 ornamental pear trees(2 Bradford, 1 Aristocrat) as well as my fruit-bearing Bartlett pear got a disease 4 years ago, endemic to my area. They all lost branches, and the Bartlett had no fruit in the last 3 years. All have sprung back from the disease, and are almost full again. The Bartlett is full of fruit this year. Cant wait to have a few.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
Looking at some extended forecasts and seeing the eastern side of the country may see some very cool temperatures by August 2 to 3 and some of the mid section of the country may get some of this too.

Ok; today we right now have a high of 80F and tonights low is forecast to be 58F!!
The forecasts for this area and my location on the other side of the mountain will almost always be about two or three degrees cooler so 56F is what I may see tonight.
 

Wildweasel

F-4 Phantoms Phorever
They missed on our forecast for cooler temps overnight. Instead of 50s we woke up to 40s this morning and despite being a mostly sunny day we aren't supposed to have a high today that gets up to the normal overnight lows.

Supposed to be a warmer low tonight, close to 60, but I'll believe it when I see it.

edit: The local official low came in at 43! Middle of summer during a global warming period. My ass.
 
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summerthyme

Administrator
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They missed on our forecast for cooler temps overnight. Instead of 50s we woke up to 40s this morning and despite being a mostly sunny day we aren't supposed to have a high today that gets up to the normal overnight lows.

Supposed to be a warmer low tonight, close to 60, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Yep... northern NY saw 46 degrees- they were calling for a low of 52! Of course, they also said zero chance of rain yesterday, and we got an INCH more of rain (that makes over 6" in the last 10 days. Never thought I'd be grateful for mostly sand soil!

Summerthyme
 

SurvivalRing

Rich Fleetwood - Founder
Historically, La Niña causes prevailing winds, driven by jet stream changes, to move north, which means precip and therefore snow, falling along the mid to northern tier of states. Also, whatever cycle is in effect (Niño or Niña) typically runs for a couple of years.

Last year, the week following Labor Day, we got 6 to 8 inches of snow, and a fierce cold front that shut down interstate 80 for three days. Very much NOT expected.

Here’s the best definition of what to look for in an early winter…

“The leaves turned early in that year. It could be a long, hard winter. The signs were everywhere. In the high country, the morning frost would sometimes last until afternoon. Buffalo were feeding ravenously. Beaver were damming and storing with strange vigour. Horses and dogs were becoming shaggy-haired as never before.”

If you see these kinds of things, early winter doth approachith.

[Winter quote from the movie “The Hallelujah Trail” (1965)]
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
Huntsville Alabama had the most blooms I've ever seen on the Crape Myrtle trees. My Dynamite Reds are still not blooming but they have finally put the buds on.
 

Bud in Fla

Veteran Member
Still just hot & muggy here near the Gulf - almost as bad as the SC Lowcountry!
I'd bet the "Joe Pye weed" is already getting tall in the roadside ditches in WV by now. That's what I used to watch for as an early sign of Fall coming.
 

Murt

Veteran Member
winter can't be far away the temperature got down to 77 last night
highs this week triple digits ---next week forecast mid to low 80s
who knows --as a general rule we only have about 2 or 3 weeks of winter here in middle GA
honestly all in all it has been a milder and wetter than normal summer here
 
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