WEATHER Signs of winter?

Grumphau

Veteran Member
Western Washington. The garden plants are all going haywire and can't figure out what season it is. Tomatoes are already getting ready to pick, a month early. The air this morning smelled and felt like Fall. I think that we might just have a long "late summer" season. Hoping we can somehow skip the month of heavy smoke in September but it's not looking good.
 

et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Costco doesn‘t have my favorite shorts anymore ( wear first). Darn winter stuff out already.
 

Trouble

Veteran Member
Wooly worms out here too, starting to see tree spiders as well. Leaves dropping like crazy. Deer acting odd, out at noon time, been that way the last month or so.
 

Windwood

Contributing Member
Wooly black worms out here in SW La. Something else strange is the Pampus Grass which usually comes out in September is blooming now! Nandina berries usually start turning Christmas Red end of September are turning red NOW! Weird weather. And to beat all, our 10 day forecast has us getting a "Cold" front soon with night time temps dropping to the mid-60's.....in August?
 

sy32478

Veteran Member
Went to visit friends and relatives on Cape Cod. In more than one yard I saw very tall Black Locust trees shedding yellow leaves any time a breeze blew by. I also noted that at one friend house he had a cherry tomato plant with very small but also very ripe tomatoes.
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
Winter IS coming. The shorter days, the topping off of the fireweed, the fading of some of my birches (I think I see it before anyone else and they do NOT appreciate my taking notice)….and the geese are gathering. Not headed south yet, but you know they are discussing it.

We love summer up here… it takes so long to get here and it’s over before you really get a chance to get used to it. Winter is coming. It will be cold, dark, messy and bothersome. But maybe, just maybe it’ll keep some of the, um, less desirable elements out.

Fall here by late August, termination dust (first snow) on the three mountain ranges here mid-September. Freeze-up/snow (that won’t melt til spring) early October. Enjoy the sun while you can ;). Winter is coming and this one is likely to be…interesting. Pic of front yard from early April this year :)

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marsh

On TB every waking moment
If La Nina translates to "above average precipitation" on the West Coast, I'm all for it!

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What is La Niña? Does it bring more snow? How climate pattern could affect US weather.
  • La Niña means "little girl," while El Niño means "little boy," or "Christ child."
  • The entire natural climate cycle is officially known by climate scientists as El Niño – Southern Oscillation (ENSO).
  • A typical La Niña winter in the U.S. brings cold and snow to the Northwest and unusually dry conditions to most of the southern tier of the U.S.
So what exactly is La Niña?
The La Niña climate pattern is a natural cycle marked by cooler-than-average ocean water in the central Pacific Ocean. It is one of the main drivers of weather in the United States and around the world, especially during the late fall, winter and early spring.

It's the opposite to the more well-known El Niño, which occurs when Pacific ocean water is warmer than average.

Both are Spanish language terms: La Niña means "little girl," while El Niño means "little boy," or "Christ child." South American fishermen first noticed periods of unusually warm water in the Pacific Ocean in the 1600s, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said. The full name they used was "El Niño de Navidad" because El Niño typically peaks around December.

The entire natural climate cycle is officially known by climate scientists as El Niño – Southern Oscillation (ENSO), a see-saw dance of warmer and cooler seawater in the central Pacific Ocean.

During La Niña events, trade winds are even stronger than usual, pushing more warm water toward Asia, NOAA said. Off the west coast of the Americas, upwelling increases, bringing cold, nutrient-rich water to the surface.

These cold waters in the Pacific push the jet stream northward, which affects weather patterns in the U.S. and globally.

What is a La Niña winter?
A typical La Niña winter in the U.S. brings cold and snow to the Northwest and unusually dry conditions to most of the southern tier of the U.S., according to NOAA's Climate Prediction Center. The Southeast and Mid-Atlantic also tend to see warmer-than-average temperatures during a La Niña winter.

New England and the Upper Midwest into New York tend to see colder-than-average temperatures, the Weather Channel said.

Because La Niña shifts storm tracks, it often brings more snow to the Ohio and Tennessee valleys. "Typically La Niña is not a big snow year in the mid-Atlantic," said Mike Halpert, deputy director of the Climate Prediction Center. "You have a better chance up in New England."

Texas A&M University agricultural economist Bruce McCarl said La Niña years are often bad for agriculture in Texas and the surrounding region. U.S. production of most crops – except corn – generally goes down in La Niña years, according to research by McCarl.

Globally, La Niña often brings heavy rainfall to Indonesia, the Philippines, northern Australia and southern Africa.

What to expect:La Niña climate pattern should return this fall and last through winter. Here's what to expect.

During La Niña, waters off the Pacific coast are colder and contain more nutrients than usual. This environment supports more marine life and attracts more cold-water species, such as squid and salmon, to places like the California coast.

Can La Niña worsen the Atlantic hurricane season?
Yes, according to the Climate Prediction Center. “La Niña can contribute to an increase in Atlantic hurricane activity by weakening the wind shear over the Caribbean Sea and tropical Atlantic Basin, which enables storms to develop and intensify,” Halpert said in 2020.

Vertical wind shear refers to the change in wind speed and direction between roughly 5,000-35,000 feet above the ground, NOAA said. Strong vertical wind shear can rip a developing hurricane apart, or even prevent it from forming. This is what can happen in the Atlantic during an El Niño when Atlantic hurricane activity is often suppressed.

While La Niña tends to increase hurricanes in the Atlantic, it also tends to decrease their numbers in the eastern and central Pacific Ocean basins.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
(CA - south of Sacramento. ) My plum trees are loaded with blossoms. They have already given me one crop. This was after some of the leaves burned from the hot sun. There are even a few blossoms on the apple tree. The cats are practically naked and have yet to start their winter coats. The hummers are very loudly fighting over the plum blossoms.
 

oops

Veteran Member
I asked two weeks or so ago if folks had noticed the signs of an early fall...the signs here are only reinforcing what we've been seeing...I'm dreading this coming winter...last time these signs were this early was late 70s...one winter was bitter cold with the Ohio river freezing over...the other was really deep snow the whole winter...back to back winters... sigh
 

greysage

On The Level
In Vt. saw a few leaves in the yard yesterday morning. Not unusual for end of July. My recollection of the last 12 years of so this last week has usually been a scorcher, the hottest week of Summer. It was warm, but not nearly as hot years past. Think it was all the cover in the sky.
 

Firebird

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I just spent some time on the back deck, and saw that the hummingbirds are already getting territorial about the feeders - that's a pre-migration sign. They didn't get like this until the end of August last year.
Florida here, and our hummingbirds are fighting over the feeders like crazy. Squirrels are eating up the pine cones with abandon too.
 

coloradohermit

Veteran Member
Here in central CO we have a wild plant(weed?) called mullien. It has medicinal uses, but it's main characteristic is the old wives tale that the height of the flower stem forecasts the snow accumulation total for the winter. This year, probably due to drought conditions, there is no mullien. That would suggest that we're forecast for a winter with little or no snow.
 

TxGal

Day by day
Wooly black worms out here in SW La. Something else strange is the Pampus Grass which usually comes out in September is blooming now! Nandina berries usually start turning Christmas Red end of September are turning red NOW! Weird weather. And to beat all, our 10 day forecast has us getting a "Cold" front soon with night time temps dropping to the mid-60's.....in August?

We also had the black wooly bear caterpillars a few weeks ago, I wondered about that. We're about 2+ hrs NE of Austin. Hot as blazes here.
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
Went to visit friends and relatives on Cape Cod. In more than one yard I saw very tall Black Locust trees shedding yellow leaves any time a breeze blew by. I also noted that at one friend house he had a cherry tomato plant with very small but also very ripe tomatoes.

The Black Locust trees in my back yard are also shedding yellow leaves.

Kathleen
 
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