ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

[Walrus]

The Iskander has the full menu of options including all of the WMD flavors.....

Yes, thank you. I know it has the capability but question whether or not they'd be stored with "special" warheads, especially in a country which just entered the NATO alliance. I don't believe that even the Poland- and Romanian-based missiles are sited with nukes in them. Fact is, I'm not so sure about the ones in Turkey, and who knows what other places around the world that the MIC has stored them?

But that's just my belief. I have no special knowledge of their actual condition. All I know is that when some press agency uses the phrase "nuclear-capable", the word "capable" is printed in invisible ink and appears to be silent.

 

[Walrus]

Yes Ukraine is good at RANDOM attacks but in the end other than headlines the damage is repaired in a few weeks. If they were able to do day after day attacks then they might have some impact. By all reports these random attacks have had no effective impact on their productions overall - across the board exports and related profits are up.

As for this whole funding DANCE - Biden has had - and still does - around $4 Billion in draw down authority to send weapons - could have done it over the last 6 months but for some reason found it more politically useful to cry about how the Republicans (MAGA) were causing a loss for Ukraine - taking orders from Trump which we all know is a Russian agent. 100% Political SPIN .

As for what new missiles they get - have to see what is in the packages. AD missiles would be the most useful (if the US has any to send) any long range strike missiles would only be effective if they were delivered in the 100's / 1000's (which we likely don't have). Anything less and they would only be good for one off attacks (as they have been doing) good for headlines.

As for US ISR they have been getting that from day one, How do you think Ukraine knows when a new attack is about to take place? The US can detect aircraft takeoffs - especially the bombers (missile platforms) which they provide to Ukraine as well as info on launched missiles. Ukraine has ZERO ability to track this - all US provided info - nothing will change with that.

How Russia responds - same as they have been - without question a few missile will likely get passed AD systems but as noted unless they have thousands to use the results will be about the same as we have seen. One off Headline hits.

I think you're 100% correct with your thoughts.

The other thing about the funding package is the part they don't tell us about a small percentage being offered as a loan. A loan which, according to the fine print, the pResident can forgive just like he does the student loans. The majority of the $ in this package goes directly to defense contractors for present and future orders including R&D. (A significant amount of which is apparently required for any Stinger production)

Trump got duped again. I despair of his ego preventing him from being able to learn from his mistakes.

In addition to reducing the burden of the Ukrainian military in these regions, the presence of European troops would make it unlikely that Russian forces would advance across the river, protecting much of Ukraine from conquest.

That comes from the unanimous chorus of fear porn from European politicians. They [should] know better but maybe they're as idiotic as their constituencies. Russia does NOT want the west of Ukraine and the rest of Europe. They will secure what they call NovoRussia - old but now-new Russia with the already-annexed republics of Lugansk and Donetsk. (ETA: and Kherson)

Anything else will be buffer zone gravy which BlackRock, et al., will have to instigate for because they've already paid Zelensky his negotiated price.

 

[Abert]

Ukraine: CBS News is reporting that the hundreds of billions US taxpayers have funneled into Ukraine have allowed the bar scene in Kyiv to flourish - there are now more bars and nightclubs in the capital than before the war began.

And they say Trickle-down economics does not work!

 

[Abert]

Who could have possibly seen this coming

Russian Court Freezes JPMorgan Assets​

Russian Court Freezes JPMorgan Assets Under $440 Million Claim - BNN Bloomberg

A St. Petersburg court froze the Russian assets of JPMorgan Chase & Co. pending consideration of a lawsuit from the country’s second-largest bank that seeks to recover about $440 million.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

JPMorgan has previously warned that it faces “actual and threatened litigation in Russia seeking payments on transactions that the firm cannot make, and is contractually excused from paying, under relevant sanctions laws.” The lender said that assets it holds in that country could be seized as a result.

Very likely a warning shot for the EU as to what will happen if they attempt (as the US is pushing them to do) to seize Russian funds banked in the EU.

 

[Abert]

S-500 Prometheus: Russia’s Answer to NATO’s Air Superiority!​

The S-500 Prometheus is a cutting-edge air and missile defense system, designed to protect cities and conflict areas from a wide range of threats, including hypersonic missiles and spacecraft, with the ability to operate autonomously or as part of an integrated air defense system.

S-500 Prometheus: Russia's Answer to NATO's Air Superiority!

This year, Russia's Air Defense Troops will acquire a much-needed capacity boost, including the new S-500 air and

frontierindia.com

Any "retired" former F-16 pilots might want to think twice about flying F-16's for Ukraine

 

[Ragnarok]

Of course not.

The 101st has been there for some time.

This claim of the 101 being in Ukraine is only being put out by one "source" - Zero confirmation.
That is not to say that at some point the 101 will not be sent in - but just not now. When they were moved to the border 2 years ago - in an interview with the commanding officer as well as comments Biden made - they stated that they would be going in. The military always has a dozen plans in place - sending the 101 in is likely one of them. What the trigger would be is unknown. But they are not sitting across the border for no reason.

They were deployed in 2023 to Romania. I haven't seen any reports that they have all returned, yet.

 

[Housecarl]

S-500 Prometheus: Russia’s Answer to NATO’s Air Superiority!​

The S-500 Prometheus is a cutting-edge air and missile defense system, designed to protect cities and conflict areas from a wide range of threats, including hypersonic missiles and spacecraft, with the ability to operate autonomously or as part of an integrated air defense system.

S-500 Prometheus: Russia's Answer to NATO's Air Superiority!

This year, Russia's Air Defense Troops will acquire a much-needed capacity boost, including the new S-500 air and

frontierindia.com

Any "retired" former F-16 pilots might want to think twice about flying F-16's for Ukraine

I'm guessing these are going to be high priority targets for low cost attack drones, particularly the radars.

As to F-16s, by the time "Ukrainian" ones become operational any bets on "knock-offs" of the Rafael ROCKS system showing up on them?

 

[Abert]

I'm guessing these are going to be high priority targets for low cost attack drones, particularly the radars.

As to F-16s, by the time "Ukrainian" ones become operational any bets on "knock-offs" of the Rafael ROCKS system showing up on them?

Without question any new S-500 systems will be a major drone target.
Some reports that 5 systems will be provided to the Army - currently being used to protect key cities - mainly for ICBM attacks.

As for the ROCKS systems - they can be fitted to F-16's but there is nothing that special about them
They claim "a very significant standoff range" but no specifics. The S-500 has an effective range of up to 600km.
The speed is nothing special at just around M-1 again slow for an advanced AD system tested against hyper-sonic missiles.

With a 1000km front there is likely some areas that would not be effectively covered by Russian AD systems where something like this might get a strike in - but that would be more of a one off vs being able to impact the overall front.

In the end it is more about operational control of the sky. Russia currently has that across the front line which allows them to drop HUNDREDS of glide bombs a day (yes not as advanced as ROCKS) but effective.

For the last 2+ years we keep getting the same - slightly modified - talking points. Ukraine is getting the latest xxxxxxx which will turn thing around. When nothing changes "Free the Cats" we get the next turn around system. When they fail to do it we get the - they should have been sent sooner or they should have sent more. Should have - Could have makes no difference. Taking off the Pro Russian or Pro Ukrainian blinders it is clear how this is going to end.

 

[Walrus]

The Iskander has the full menu of options including all of the WMD flavors.....

Right on schedule for this discussion: Polish President Duda said today that Poland wanted to install nuclear warheads on its missile emplacements which the US has previously positioned in Poland. The article mentioned that it would take several years to accomplish, so it sounds as if there's serious bureaucratic obstacles in order to make this happen.

"Thankfully" is my only response for the moment.

 

[Walrus]

The 101st has been there for some time.



They were deployed in 2023 to Romania. I haven't seen any reports that they have all returned, yet.

Thinking back to Afghanistan, Biden doesn't mind putting them there but will not pull them back and bring them home until it's too late. They're a trip wire and a bunch of sacrificial lambs, as are all our troops which he's sent over.

 

[Abert]

There has been speculation about something like this happening - about the only way Ukraine would be able to protect their F-16's - Pro Russian Source so take it for what it is worth.

DD Geopolitics

From Ukrainian "insider" RezidentUA: "Our source in the Ministry of Defense told us that Biden promised Zelensky the first F-16s by the end of May. For this, Ukraine must accelerate the preparation of airfields. The fighters will be based in Romania, but they will be transferred to Ukraine...

t.me

Key point:
The fighters will be based in Romania, but they will be transferred to Ukraine before the attacks."

So fast touch down in Ukraine - fuel up - or just a touch and go (wheels hit the runway but the aircraft never lands)
After the attack wonder if they do another touch and go back to Romania?

This way the F-16's attack originates from Ukraine - have to love lawyers.

 

[Walrus]

Taking off the Pro Russian or Pro Ukrainian blinders it is clear how this is going to end.

My take is that as long as Zelensky is in place, he's still raking in the corruption and a military defeat is the only real answer as he refuses to enter negotiations based on present realities. He has become pretty much irrrational. (Putin being ousted is a favorite wet dreamer's fantasy and will not happen, and if it did happen, the people who think that Putin is a hands-on Hitler-style hardass - which perfectly defines Zelensky, by the way - would find that the one who replaced him would make them wish Putin was back)

If Zelensky is ousted in whatever way, peace talks would probably begin in a month with the first order of business being to have a truce and cleanup of battlefield losses. It would take a lot of perseverance as I have no doubt that there'd be ongoing terrorist attacks happening in Russia regardless of whatever truce was declared.

 

[Walrus]

There has been speculation about something like this happening - about the only way Ukraine would be able to protect their F-16's - Pro Russian Source so take it for what it is worth.

DD Geopolitics

From Ukrainian "insider" RezidentUA: "Our source in the Ministry of Defense told us that Biden promised Zelensky the first F-16s by the end of May. For this, Ukraine must accelerate the preparation of airfields. The fighters will be based in Romania, but they will be transferred to Ukraine...

t.me

Key point:
The fighters will be based in Romania, but they will be transferred to Ukraine before the attacks."

So fast touch down in Ukraine - fuel up - or just a touch and go (wheels hit the runway but the aircraft never lands)
After the attack wonder if they do another touch and go back to Romania?

This way the F-16's attack originates from Ukraine - have to love lawyers.

This will be the next big escalation, probably. I suspect that hiding in Romania won't do much good when a few missile attacks on the runways strand the F-16s with no place to land. Even touch-n-goes will cause FOD losses to those F-16s. Sad to know that they'll be flown by NATO pilots, though.

 

[Abert]

Looks like the Crimean Bridge is on the Menu - AGAIN.
Excellent overview of the amount of NATO surveillance that covers Crimea (check out the map) - detecting AD systems and looking for openings.

DD Geopolitics

❗️ On the AFU's preparations for strikes on Crimea and Sevastopol Yesterday was notable for the fact that the southern Russian territories sounded the alarm several times, either due to the takeoff of tactical aviation or the appearance of unidentified objects on air defense systems. The exact...

t.me

On the AFU's preparations for strikes on Crimea and Sevastopol

Yesterday was notable for the fact that the southern Russian territories sounded the alarm several times, either due to the takeoff of tactical aviation or the appearance of unidentified objects on air defense systems.

The exact reason still remains unclear. But as a rule, when this happens, it is associated with the launch of decoy missiles (most likely, ADM-160 MALD). And it was most likely these that the air defense stations reacted to.

What is the purpose of this? This gives the enemy the opportunity to assess the reaction of our air defense units to targets appearing in the air. Radar stations are put into active operation, and NATO intelligence records this and determines the location.

And all this is confirmed by the high activity of NATO aircraft and drones. In the air were American U-2S, P-8A, two MQ-9A Reapers, as well as a British RC-135V and a French AWACS E-3F aircraft accompanied by four Rafale fighters.

️Their simultaneous appearance in the Black Sea region together with false missile launches does not look accidental. The British electronic warfare reconnaissance aircraft approached Sevastopol to a distance of 230 km, and the French AWACS - to 190 km from Sochi.

And today, the intensity of flights is not decreasing. Since night, the American drone RQ-4B has been actively operating south of the Crimean Bridge, and the Italian long-range radar detection aircraft G-550 is functioning over the Black Sea - a rare guest in this area.

NATO satellites are searching for and detecting air defense positions across the peninsula. The number of sessions has almost doubled compared to the average number of images.

In summary, over the past few days, the following has been noted:
Increased activity of NATO reconnaissance aviation
Launches of decoy missiles towards Crimea
High intensity of aerial photography of the surface of Crimea

If we add the official statements about additional deliveries of long-range missiles, including ATACMS and Storm Shadow (not that they weren't there before, it's just that now the green light has been given for their use), we get a complete picture: new attempts at strikes are not far off.

And this may happen during the May holidays, and even more likely, by the inauguration of the president on May 7. Given the love of the authorities of the so-called Ukraine and their curators for symbolism, the Crimean Bridge, to which attention is already very high, may once again become the target.

High-resolution map https://rybar.ru/piwigo/upload/2024/04/24/20240424153157-8b39aacb.jpg

 

[Abert]

NATO provided Ukrainian Armor finally reaches Moscow
Not exactly the original plan - but at-lest it didn't go to waste

DD Geopolitics

The Russian Ministry of Defense revealed what it plans to do with the trophies - they will be displayed in Victory Park on Poklonnaya Gora The Victory Park on Poklonnaya Gora will display more than 30 samples of military equipment produced by 12 countries, including the USA, Great Britain...

t.me

The Victory Park on Poklonnaya Gora will display more than 30 samples of military equipment produced by 12 countries, including the USA, Great Britain, Germany, France, Turkey, Sweden, the Czech Republic, South Africa, Finland, Australia, Austria and Ukraine.

 

[jward]

If Zelensky is ousted in whatever way, peace talks would probably begin in a month with the first order of business being to have a truce and cleanup of battlefield losses.

It would seem we need the USA ousted - iirc there were a few times Z was making like he was willing to enter negotiations, but of course, that doesn't fit "the plan" of those actually driving this slaughter : (

 

[jward]

not sure if this matters or not

 

[AlfaMan]

This will be the next big escalation, probably. I suspect that hiding in Romania won't do much good when a few missile attacks on the runways strand the F-16s with no place to land. Even touch-n-goes will cause FOD losses to those F-16s. Sad to know that they'll be flown by NATO pilots, though.

Hiding/basing the F-16s in Romania is one giant mistake. Romania is a NATO partner. The Russians are going to do their best to take out the F-16s due to their capabilities. Russia would possibly go as far as to destroy the planes on the ground in Romania.

Which would effectively make Russia an aggressor against a NATO member. Article 5 activation anyone?

Oh, we have troops based in Romania too. AND a THAAD battery or 4 as well.

 

[Housecarl]

There has been speculation about something like this happening - about the only way Ukraine would be able to protect their F-16's - Pro Russian Source so take it for what it is worth.

DD Geopolitics

From Ukrainian "insider" RezidentUA: "Our source in the Ministry of Defense told us that Biden promised Zelensky the first F-16s by the end of May. For this, Ukraine must accelerate the preparation of airfields. The fighters will be based in Romania, but they will be transferred to Ukraine...

t.me

Key point:
The fighters will be based in Romania, but they will be transferred to Ukraine before the attacks."

So fast touch down in Ukraine - fuel up - or just a touch and go (wheels hit the runway but the aircraft never lands)
After the attack wonder if they do another touch and go back to Romania?

This way the F-16's attack originates from Ukraine - have to love lawyers.

The minute one side ignores the "lawyers" things will get "real" and will go south from there...

 

[Housecarl]

Hiding/basing the F-16s in Romania is one giant mistake. Romania is a NATO partner. The Russians are going to do their best to take out the F-16s due to their capabilities. Russia would possibly go as far as to destroy the planes on the ground in Romania.

Which would effectively make Russia an aggressor against a NATO member. Article 5 activation anyone?

Oh, we have troops based in Romania too. AND a THAAD battery or 4 as well.

This all comes down to TPTB in "the West" wanting their cake and eating it too. If they'd been serious when this started either Putin wouldn't have invaded in the first place or it would have been a lot worse then with the "balloon going up".

 

[mistaken1]

Hiding/basing the F-16s in Romania is one giant mistake. Romania is a NATO partner. The Russians are going to do their best to take out the F-16s due to their capabilities. Russia would possibly go as far as to destroy the planes on the ground in Romania.

Which would effectively make Russia an aggressor against a NATO member. Article 5 activation anyone?

Oh, we have troops based in Romania too. AND a THAAD battery or 4 as well.

Locally launched suicide drones targeting F16s on the ground would avoid direct attacks from russian controlled areas.

 

[Housecarl]

Locally launched suicide drones targeting F16s on the ground would avoid direct attacks from russian controlled areas.

That assumes that those receiving decide to play it that way.

 

[Walrus]

That assumes that those receiving decide to play it that way.

That's a good point, and who can assume anything from this collective bunch? I can think of some alternative scenarios which would likely strand any western jets but there's no sense speculating at this point until it's seen how they're going to be used.

 

[jward]

Shashank Joshi
@shashj

V interesting from @JackDetsch. "Russia is on track to produce 3.5 million rounds in 2024 and might be able to surge to produce 4.5 million rounds by the end of the year."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1783240368869229008

View: https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1783240368869229008

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Shashank Joshi
@shashj
6h

.@Jack_Watling & Nick Reynolds gave a much lower estimate in Feb. "Russian overall artillery production is likely to plateau at 3 million rounds per year of all natures – including MLRS, which is not considered above."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1783240885011886384

View: https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1783240885011886384

 

[jward]

TurkishFacts4u
@TurkishFacts4U

IMPORTANT

There are indications that Turkiye will declare its nuclear weapons State status immediately upon it commissioning its indigenous MILDEN submarines & testing its Satellite Launch Vehicle.

At that point no one can stop it with force.

10:24 PM · Apr 24, 2024
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[Housecarl]

TurkishFacts4u
@TurkishFacts4U

IMPORTANT

There are indications that Turkiye will declare its nuclear weapons State status immediately upon it commissioning its indigenous MILDEN submarines & testing its Satellite Launch Vehicle.

At that point no one can stop it with force.

10:24 PM · Apr 24, 2024
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If so that will definitely "change" things, and not for the better.

ETA: The Turks have MRBMs already in their inventory. The "satellite launch vehicle" is a derivative of it. Turkey has uranium deposits and several research reactors but from what I can find no centrifuges to any scale like Iran. If in fact they've gotten around the IAEA, as well as the US and EU, they've likely gone the Pu-239 route.

 

[jward]

Insider Paper
@TheInsiderPaper

BREAKING: Airspace over southern Norway, including capital Oslo, closed for unknown duration due to "technical error" at Oslo's air traffic center, operator says

 

[jward]

DEFCONWarningSystem
@DEFCONWSALERTS

Russia has moved its Iskander-M tactical nuclear missile systems to the border with Finland.

1:43 PM · Apr 23, 2024
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Tomi
@TallbarFIN

Major General Harri Ohra-Aho on Russia's decision to move ballistic missiles closer to the Finnish border

"Of course, it's none of my business, but operationally it seems absurd to bring missile systems with such a long range closer to our border, they make easy targets for us"

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Tomi
@TallbarFIN
Russia says it has established a new brigade equipped with Iskander ballistic missiles in Karelia. It's said to be a countermeasure to Finland joining NATO.

"This is an answer for Finland joining NATO" says the former commander of the Baltic Sea Fleet, Admiral Vladimir Valuev

 

[Tom McDowell]

SITREP 4/24/24: Comedown After Post-Aid 'High' Brings West Back to Reality​

Simplicius
Apr 25, 2024



The ink has yet to dry on the signed Ukrainian aid, but it has finally passed both House, Senate, and the final Biden rubberstamp. As predicted here, the list of new items is “long” but mostly constitutes the secondary munitions types which aren’t as easily expendable and therefore still exist in some quantity. The primary ones, i.e. artillery shells and such, are still heavily backlogged.


As you can see, much of the munitions above represent ones which have long lost their effectiveness and have done nothing to really make a dent of any kind in the battlefield.

In fact, just days ago Ukraine’s head of the aerial reconnaissance support center, Maria Berlinskaya, stated that “most Western systems have proven to be [worthless]” because Russian EW neutralizes them all. Listen for yourself:


It was also revealed that much of the gear was already forward-stationed and merely awaiting the final approval, and has begun streaming in from Poland. In fact, some of it was already secretly given a week or two ago, such as in the case of the ATACMS missiles, which were already used as most had guessed since the strike on Dzhankoi airbase a week ago.






There was footage showing the offloading of about a dozen M2 Bradleys from Poland, ready to be sent to Ukraine.

What difference will that make? There is hardly more than that to be sent, and most of them looked worn out and probably the non-working write-offs as we’ve already come to find out from AFU servicemen themselves, who admitted many of the previously sent Bradleys/Abrams were in non-working condition.

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SITREP 4/24/24: Comedown After Post-Aid 'High' Brings West Back to Reality

The ink has yet to dry on the signed Ukrainian aid, but it has finally passed both House, Senate, and the final Biden rubberstamp. As predicted here, the list of new items is “long” but mostly constitutes the secondary munitions types which aren’t as easily expendable and therefore still exist...

simplicius76.substack.com

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[wait-n-see]

Ukrainian Brigade RUNS AWAY After Russian Surprise Attack​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h9Yw7po9VA

Run time - 18:28
Apr 25, 2024

 

[Abert]

As the most corrupt nation in Europe and now likely in the world this should not be unexpected.
Lots of random reports of this taking place over the years - these two reports give the details along with statements of actual victims - while not war related - it is important to see what our tax dollars are going to support.

The Rebirth of Slavery in Ukraine: Zelensky's political proxies kidnap and sell people, making money from the slave trade - Foundation to Battle Injustice

Human rights activists of the Foundation to Battle Injustice have uncovered a wide network of illegal Ukrainian slave trade centers controlled by the inner circle of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

fondfbr.ru

Geopolitics of human trafficking: How Western regime-change operations enable criminal activities

According to a recent investigation, Kiev regime is heading a big international scheme of slave trade. ❗️Join us on Telegram, Twitter , and VK. Contact us: info@strategic-culture.su You can…

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[Abert]

SITREP 4/24/24: Comedown After Post-Aid 'High' Brings West Back to Reality​

Simplicius
Apr 25, 2024



The ink has yet to dry on the signed Ukrainian aid, but it has finally passed both House, Senate, and the final Biden rubberstamp. As predicted here, the list of new items is “long” but mostly constitutes the secondary munitions types which aren’t as easily expendable and therefore still exist in some quantity. The primary ones, i.e. artillery shells and such, are still heavily backlogged.

As you can see, much of the munitions above represent ones which have long lost their effectiveness and have done nothing to really make a dent of any kind in the battlefield.

In fact, just days ago Ukraine’s head of the aerial reconnaissance support center, Maria Berlinskaya, stated that “most Western systems have proven to be [worthless]” because Russian EW neutralizes them all. Listen for yourself:


It was also revealed that much of the gear was already forward-stationed and merely awaiting the final approval, and has begun streaming in from Poland. In fact, some of it was already secretly given a week or two ago, such as in the case of the ATACMS missiles, which were already used as most had guessed since the strike on Dzhankoi airbase a week ago.




There was footage showing the offloading of about a dozen M2 Bradleys from Poland, ready to be sent to Ukraine.

What difference will that make? There is hardly more than that to be sent, and most of them looked worn out and probably the non-working write-offs as we’ve already come to find out from AFU servicemen themselves, who admitted many of the previously sent Bradleys/Abrams were in non-working condition.

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much more meat in this strep

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SITREP 4/24/24: Comedown After Post-Aid 'High' Brings West Back to Reality

The ink has yet to dry on the signed Ukrainian aid, but it has finally passed both House, Senate, and the final Biden rubberstamp. As predicted here, the list of new items is “long” but mostly constitutes the secondary munitions types which aren’t as easily expendable and therefore still exist...

simplicius76.substack.com

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Always excellent analysis
One thing that stands out from the latest military aid package - is what is NOT there.
Patriot AD Batteries or replacement missiles - ZERO listed - this has been the big demand from Ukraine.

The only missiles listed are the AIM-9 Sidewinder which is a SHORT RANGE air to air missile that can be fitted to some ground launched systems. We also have some RIM-7 which is also a Short Range point defense system developed as a ship-borne system - modified for use if former Russian ground launch systems.
Naturally no numbers so it is hard to project if these will make much difference especially if they are expended on drones.

 

[wait-n-see]

Russia's S-500 Prometheus Can Intercept Targets In Space, Tackle US F-22 & FF-35 Stealth Jets?​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD9yimUqxeQ

Run time - 5:14
Apr 25, 2024

Russian troops will receive the first batch of the long-awaited next-generation S-500 air defence missile system in 2024. Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu announced that the air defence system will be delivered in two variations. One variant will be a long-range air defense missile system and the other an anti-missile defense complex. Russia will also be adding more S-400 and S-300V4 air defense missile systems, Buk-M3 and Tor-M2U missile systems to its arsenal. Watch the video to know more about S-500 defence missile system.

 

[wait-n-see]

'Ukraine is not anymore sovereign state', says Hungary's Orban​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LqxzeUZqTk

Run time - 4:55
Apr 22, 2024

ASSOCIATED PRESS Belgium - 17 April 2024 ++AUDIO AS INCOMING++

1. Various of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban arriving at conference

2. Various of Orban walking on stage, preparing to speak

3. SOUNDBITE (English) Viktor Orban, Hungarian Prime Minister: “The sense of this European election is - change the leadership. What is election for? The sense of election is that if the leadership proves to be bad, must be replaced. That is so simple. And this leadership of European Union is simply bad. It has failed. So it's not just a political statement, it is very much factual.”

4. Orban on stage

5. SOUNDBITE (English) Viktor Orban, Hungarian Prime Minister: “I think that nations have the right to decide about their own future. So if somebody would like to make an attempt to create a mixed society, Christian-based with Muslim community, and as liberal thing that the outcome will be something good - let's do it, it is your fate, your future, but don’t force us to do so. That’s what we called the offer of tolerance, what I have made several times to Brussels. I said, 'guys, you can create whatever migration system you would like to do, but don’t force Hungary to do the same thing, because we simply don’t believe.' We think that mixture of two civilizations will not result in good things.”

6. Orban on stage

7. SOUNDBITE (English) Viktor Orban, Hungarian Prime Minister: “We respect (inaudible) rights of Ukraine, sovereignty of Ukraine, (inaudible) people to maintain their own state. So therefore the invasion of Putin against Ukraine is totally against values of international relations and all the values we respect, so no question of that. But the Hungarian point of interest is that something must be between Russia and Hungary, so this is the number one. So we support Ukraine to survive somehow, which is questioned, because Ukraine is not any more sovereign state. Ukraine is now just the protectorate of the West. So without getting the money and weapons from the European Union and United States, Ukraine as a state would cease to exist. So it is not a sovereign state anymore.”

8. Wide of conference

9. SOUNDBITE (English) Viktor Orban, Hungarian Prime Minister: “Hungary has always had good economic relations with Russia, so I would not like to give up that kind of cooperation. Because the war between Ukraine and Russia is not the war of Hungarians. It is the war of two Slavic nations, one big Slavic nation attacked another one. And they have a war. And we don’t behave like the Europeans who said - 'oh it is our war, because it is about values, it is about international order, whatsoever, so we are in the war, it is our war but not fully. Because we would not like to die. So, please Ukrainians die, we give the money, give the weapons and defend our values please. So it is not so much our war to go into, to take the lives, to fight there, but just to finance your (inaudible).' So, I don’t like that approach at all.”

10. Wide of conference

11. SOUNDBITE (English) Viktor Orban, Hungarian Prime Minister: ”The reason of the war is very simple. It is called NATO membership. And just as a country who was occupied by the Russians for 45 years, I can say from personal experience that Russians will never allow to have membership of Ukraine as it is now in NATO. For the geopolitical thinking, it is impossible. They will always do everything to have something between the Russian border and NATO countries' border. It could be called Ukraine, it could be war zone, whatever, but a buffer zone must exist between NATO and Ukraine.”

12. Wide of conference

 

[Cedar Lake]

As the most corrupt nation in Europe and now likely in the world this should not be unexpected.
Lots of random reports of this taking place over the years - these two reports give the details along with statements of actual victims - while not war related - it is important to see what our tax dollars are going to support.

The Rebirth of Slavery in Ukraine: Zelensky's political proxies kidnap and sell people, making money from the slave trade - Foundation to Battle Injustice

Human rights activists of the Foundation to Battle Injustice have uncovered a wide network of illegal Ukrainian slave trade centers controlled by the inner circle of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

fondfbr.ru

Geopolitics of human trafficking: How Western regime-change operations enable criminal activities

According to a recent investigation, Kiev regime is heading a big international scheme of slave trade. ❗️Join us on Telegram, Twitter , and VK. Contact us: info@strategic-culture.su You can…

strategic-culture.su

Europa's Values, on full display...........

 

[Cedar Lake]

Interesting article, brings up some new points of view.

Possible scenarios for post-war Western Ukraine

Yesterday’s issue of my substack left you hanging regarding what Russia could do with the Ukrainian “rump state” that Russian media are dangling before Poland and the rest of NATO.

donhank.substack.com

 

[raven]

Interesting article, brings up some new points of view.

Possible scenarios for post-war Western Ukraine

Yesterday’s issue of my substack left you hanging regarding what Russia could do with the Ukrainian “rump state” that Russian media are dangling before Poland and the rest of NATO.

donhank.substack.com

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The Crunchy Chewy Caramel Nougat formerly known as THE Ukraine.
(I like it. Who doesn't like Nougat?)

 

[Abert]

'Ukraine is not anymore sovereign state', says Hungary's Orban​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LqxzeUZqTk

Run time - 4:55
Apr 22, 2024

ASSOCIATED PRESS Belgium - 17 April 2024 ++AUDIO AS INCOMING++

1. Various of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban arriving at conference

2. Various of Orban walking on stage, preparing to speak

3. SOUNDBITE (English) Viktor Orban, Hungarian Prime Minister: “The sense of this European election is - change the leadership. What is election for? The sense of election is that if the leadership proves to be bad, must be replaced. That is so simple. And this leadership of European Union is simply bad. It has failed. So it's not just a political statement, it is very much factual.”

4. Orban on stage

5. SOUNDBITE (English) Viktor Orban, Hungarian Prime Minister: “I think that nations have the right to decide about their own future. So if somebody would like to make an attempt to create a mixed society, Christian-based with Muslim community, and as liberal thing that the outcome will be something good - let's do it, it is your fate, your future, but don’t force us to do so. That’s what we called the offer of tolerance, what I have made several times to Brussels. I said, 'guys, you can create whatever migration system you would like to do, but don’t force Hungary to do the same thing, because we simply don’t believe.' We think that mixture of two civilizations will not result in good things.”

6. Orban on stage

7. SOUNDBITE (English) Viktor Orban, Hungarian Prime Minister: “We respect (inaudible) rights of Ukraine, sovereignty of Ukraine, (inaudible) people to maintain their own state. So therefore the invasion of Putin against Ukraine is totally against values of international relations and all the values we respect, so no question of that. But the Hungarian point of interest is that something must be between Russia and Hungary, so this is the number one. So we support Ukraine to survive somehow, which is questioned, because Ukraine is not any more sovereign state. Ukraine is now just the protectorate of the West. So without getting the money and weapons from the European Union and United States, Ukraine as a state would cease to exist. So it is not a sovereign state anymore.”

8. Wide of conference

9. SOUNDBITE (English) Viktor Orban, Hungarian Prime Minister: “Hungary has always had good economic relations with Russia, so I would not like to give up that kind of cooperation. Because the war between Ukraine and Russia is not the war of Hungarians. It is the war of two Slavic nations, one big Slavic nation attacked another one. And they have a war. And we don’t behave like the Europeans who said - 'oh it is our war, because it is about values, it is about international order, whatsoever, so we are in the war, it is our war but not fully. Because we would not like to die. So, please Ukrainians die, we give the money, give the weapons and defend our values please. So it is not so much our war to go into, to take the lives, to fight there, but just to finance your (inaudible).' So, I don’t like that approach at all.”

10. Wide of conference

11. SOUNDBITE (English) Viktor Orban, Hungarian Prime Minister: ”The reason of the war is very simple. It is called NATO membership. And just as a country who was occupied by the Russians for 45 years, I can say from personal experience that Russians will never allow to have membership of Ukraine as it is now in NATO. For the geopolitical thinking, it is impossible. They will always do everything to have something between the Russian border and NATO countries' border. It could be called Ukraine, it could be war zone, whatever, but a buffer zone must exist between NATO and Ukraine.”

12. Wide of conference

One of the few logical and independent voices in the EU - why he is so HATED by the US - he refuses to dance to the US program.

 

[AlfaMan]

Always excellent analysis
One thing that stands out from the latest military aid package - is what is NOT there.
Patriot AD Batteries or replacement missiles - ZERO listed - this has been the big demand from Ukraine.

The only missiles listed are the AIM-9 Sidewinder which is a SHORT RANGE air to air missile that can be fitted to some ground launched systems. We also have some RIM-7 which is also a Short Range point defense system developed as a ship-borne system - modified for use if former Russian ground launch systems.
Naturally no numbers so it is hard to project if these will make much difference especially if they are expended on drones.

If Ukraine is using Sidewinders in a ground launched environment, then they have or are using Chaparral units. Chaparral SAMs have been out of the US inventory since before Desert Storm.
Sidewinders and the Sparrows are probably initial stocks for the F-16s coming online soon.

 

[Abert]

If Ukraine is using Sidewinders in a ground launched environment, then they have or are using Chaparral units. Chaparral SAMs have been out of the US inventory since before Desert Storm.
Sidewinders and the Sparrows are probably initial stocks for the F-16s coming online soon.

True - they can be used by the F-16 but their short range vs the current Russian A to A systems such as the R-37 long-range air-to-air missile with a range of 300km puts them at a major disadvantage - plus F-16 are not that stealthy !

There have been a number of ground based system modified or developed to use them. Likely very effective vs drones - not sure sure on ballistic missiles - and naturally hyper-sonic missiles would be impossible for them to intercept. One good use would be to move them to the active front where they could target helicopters and advanced drones like the lancet. Then again the key question - how many are they getting.