TERRORISM Riots in Minneapolis (now the main riot thread)
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. . why we can't ever seem to show up for ourselves like big boys and girls
I have questioned this myself a few times and have not yet found an answer I feel complete.
Nowski regularly reminds us of the different natures of the beasts which I will refer to as blacks and whites because of popularity of the terms. Based upon my experience and observation:
Blacks generally are more excitable than whites. More prone to fear things they don't understand. Quicker to run in fear and fight in anger. This applies to educated and uneducated. Of course there are exceptions but they are so small in number they are not worthy of discussion. Consequently, when confronted, they generally react much more quickly.
This is easily observed on a basketball court. They are gregarious and usually prefer larger groups. I have encountered very few loners among blacks. Neither have I encountered many rugged individualists.
When they are grouped and one initiates some action or responds to an action it is akin to bumping a beehive.
Whites are gregarious but tend to have many more loners. Rugged individualists are pretty common. They don't generally react to situations as quickly as blacks and when grouped, if jostled, they don't strongly exhibit the beehive effect. In fact... when a large group of whites is jostled many will try to ignore it, many will wander away, a few will run and a few will fight. They rarely react in unison as do the blacks, especially if that reaction is beyond vocal.
Again... it is futile and foolish to point out exceptions because they are only that... exceptions.
Blacks appear to almost react automatically to any form of violence with violence. Not so much so with whites. Whites often have to be organized and almost directed to violence although that does seem to be changing.
Confronted individually blacks normally default to fighting right then and there with tools available. Whites confronted individually tend to (more frequently) default to retreat or some form of vocal resolution. Whites are more apt to return and fight with the legal system or with a weapon. I believe these responses result from social conditioning over the last 50+ years.
YMMV {but not much}
. . why we can't ever seem to show up for ourselves like big boys and girls
I have questioned this myself a few times and have not yet found an answer I feel complete.
Nowski regularly reminds us of the different natures of the beasts which I will refer to as blacks and whites because of popularity of the terms. Based upon my experience and observation:
Blacks generally are more excitable than whites. More prone to fear things they don't understand. Quicker to run in fear and fight in anger. This applies to educated and uneducated. Of course there are exceptions but they are so small in number they are not worthy of discussion. Consequently, when confronted, they generally react much more quickly.
This is easily observed on a basketball court. They are gregarious and usually prefer larger groups. I have encountered very few loners among blacks. Neither have I encountered many rugged individualists.
When they are grouped and one initiates some action or responds to an action it is akin to bumping a beehive.
Whites are gregarious but tend to have many more loners. Rugged individualists are pretty common. They don't generally react to situations as quickly as blacks and when grouped, if jostled, they don't strongly exhibit the beehive effect. In fact... when a large group of whites is jostled many will try to ignore it, many will wander away, a few will run and a few will fight. They rarely react in unison as do the blacks, especially if that reaction is beyond vocal.
Again... it is futile and foolish to point out exceptions because they are only that... exceptions.
Blacks appear to almost react automatically to any form of violence with violence. Not so much so with whites. Whites often have to be organized and almost directed to violence although that does seem to be changing.
Confronted individually blacks normally default to fighting right then and there with tools available. Whites confronted individually tend to (more frequently) default to retreat or some form of vocal resolution. Whites are more apt to return and fight with the legal system or with a weapon. I believe these responses result from social conditioning over the last 50+ years.
YMMV {but not much}
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Masterchief117
I'm all about the doom
That the way it usually happens. I've seen here before and I always chuckle.
annieosage
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FYI if anyone has Snapchat- you can go to the map function and if a “Snap” is public you can see it. Go to Minneapolis and it’s red meaning there are a lot of live videos coming out.
The white boy in this picture would do well to pack up his family, sentimental family items, his insurance policies, every gun he owns (with ammo) and go low. Extremely low.
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I just can't wrap my mind around this...
I have been out of the game of taking people into custody for a full decade now. Even then, we were trained to get them into cuffs and remove them from the area AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE so as to not attract a crowd and ( even at the dawn of the technology ) so as to not get on cell phone video giving any appearance of excessive force.
We RARELY spent more than two minutes getting a situation under control and vacating the scene.
TEN MINUTES with four officers to get one person into custody is a complete breakdown of training ( or a total lack of training ), IMHO.
My first reaction is that this is indefensible.
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Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Good point
Truthsearch
Doom is ALWAYS 6 Months Away...
And now we can all see what happens when we allow RACIST PIG COPS to continue to be a problem in America! Oh, wait, it’s “just a few bad apples”.
Ragnarok
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Doge
@IntelDoge
2m
Hennepin County PD requesting permission to shoot out lights in a parking lot with 40mm rounds. Dispatch says she might be able to handle it from her end. #GeorgeFloyd #MinneapolisPD
It is easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission...
Ragnarok
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Everything considered, they still should not have killed him. If they hadn't Minneapolis wouldn't be a hot bed tonight, and we all wouldn't be having this conversation.
Once a person is in handcuffs they are easily controlled...
This should not have happened.
Period.
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Seriously?
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Bullcrap...
How many use-of-force incidents are you drawing on to make that conclusion?
If they are worried about being sniped at they would not want to have themselves illuminated.
jward
passin' thru
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Doge
@IntelDoge
37s
Hennepin County PD scanner reports of shots fired
MinnesotaSmith
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Do note that apparently no Photoshopping was needed to make that collage, just copy and paste.
homecanner1
Veteran Member
MS, as a Minnesotan, what is your take on this? My son had tickets to a show in Mpls 4 yrs ago and we did not think anything of it till he arrived that day for the C&W concert and the jury was rendering verdict on Philando Castile case. I spent about 5 hrs researching every back road and bridge over the river out of the city for him while he was in the theater and every safe(r) rooftop bar for them to have pre show drink away from street level. I would have thought Mpls St. Paul LEO's would be hyper sensitive to this by now. I don't see this calming down Day 2 either.
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MinnesotaSmith
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Hi, HC. Please note that I haven't lived in MN since 2003, nor been there since 2005, so my personal experience there is out of date. That said, MN's LEOs are by all accounts getting more converged in the Twin Cities. Further, more and more of MPLS/St. Paul are less and less American. There are parts now that John Derbyshire and Colin Flaherty would definitely be referring to in their seminal works. 2316 Chipman Street is being built there as we speak...
Shadow
Swift, Silent,...Sleepy
Fair enough.
Were they not in the same danger everywhere else the lights were on? Or was there some specific information that I missed?
Shadow
When I was on the job we were always cognizant of whether we were being lit up or not. I worked an area
where we were sniped at.
Yes they would be in danger where other lights are but you mitigate what you can especially if you are taking incoming rounds or rounds are popping off and you know it's not your side doing the shooting.
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night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Next time I run into Capt. Mitch who is EPD's training chief I WILL ask what securing technique is it they were using when they put guy ALMOST under their SUV and stuck knees against his back and neck. against the SUV.
Hognutz
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Good, Cops need to finally learn there are repercussions to their thuggishness!
Hognutz
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Just what I was thinking! I aint no lover of joggers, but I sure as hell aint no friend of JBTs....
Betty_Rose
Veteran Member
That’s what ticks me off. Television news was filled with happy swimmers yesterday, not wearing masks IN THE WATER (which I want to know, are those idiotic commentators serious about that?), and yet tens of thousands of rioters show up to destroy stuff, packed in there cheek by jowl, and it’s okay?
Where’s the talk about all the disease spreaders?!?! The ominous predictions? The slamming of citizens that aren’t following the rules?
Bizarre.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
If they were ticked off about no masks in the water, gotta wonder if the mike stands have EVER been waterboarded. Take a good mask, go into the water and you AIN'T GONNA BREATHE through that mask.
Marie
Veteran Member
Just an opinion
Cop was out of line. Prior to my current line of work, I spent over 20 years teaching in the "hood" the worst of the worst ,last chance education, not ever allowed in mainstream settings. We were given extensive training on holds and restraints. Just common sense that a knee on the neck is asinine stupidity.
As for the protests ? Riots is more like it Hardly peaceful, already destroying property and typical BLM tactics just like antifa. The complaints of vs Michigan protesters who had guns is irrelevant, behavior is the key. Media is parading as usual. Protesting peaceful-bad whites.
Protesting with bad behavior- good whites/blacks.
Antifa- good whites/blacks
This is what will escalate an uprising in America and yet isn't the behavior of the protests being labeled by the powers that be inciting the whole problem?
If they are going to protest, at least do it the way that draws attention without destroying.
Cop was out of line. Prior to my current line of work, I spent over 20 years teaching in the "hood" the worst of the worst ,last chance education, not ever allowed in mainstream settings. We were given extensive training on holds and restraints. Just common sense that a knee on the neck is asinine stupidity.
As for the protests ? Riots is more like it Hardly peaceful, already destroying property and typical BLM tactics just like antifa. The complaints of vs Michigan protesters who had guns is irrelevant, behavior is the key. Media is parading as usual. Protesting peaceful-bad whites.
Protesting with bad behavior- good whites/blacks.
Antifa- good whites/blacks
This is what will escalate an uprising in America and yet isn't the behavior of the protests being labeled by the powers that be inciting the whole problem?
If they are going to protest, at least do it the way that draws attention without destroying.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
On past form, not destroying doesn't get attention.
PghPanther
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Everything considered, they still should not have killed him. If they hadn't Minneapolis wouldn't be a hot bed tonight, and we all wouldn't be having this conversation.
I agree 100% with you........and my post explains that..........but this guy would have never been bothered by any law enforcement if he wasn't doing anything against the law..............people like this guy just don't care that any laws exist when it comes to their dysfunctional ability to manage themselves beyond a tribal existence.
Samuel Adams
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No.
There should have been a short trial, with witnesses, and a hanging, without glory or much publicity necessary.
Illini Warrior
Illini Warrior
check the 5 Star ***** hotels >>> the paid activists always go 1st Class - the DNC made the calls seconds after they saw the opportunity for some summer rioting to inspire across the country ....
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
I am just glad it is not us in Brunswick after that dumb ass shooting.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
What you mean is that Whites will react in a planned manner that will end the resolution as when we do come back it is to kill everything we meet. We play to win.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Amaud's deal is on deck for later in the summer after the trial. Looks like the betting is about 50-50 as to a conviction...
20Gauge
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At this point they have almost everything lined up for a conviction. I expect a pleading out at some point.
