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phloydius

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I'll see what kind of cold and flu meds are available and if there are any limits.

Stopped by HEB near Austin, and looked at the cold & flu section. There was very little left, of almost anything.
  • There was 1 single bottle of children's Tylenol, and that was the only children's bottle of anything pain/fever related.
  • There were were no bottles of the Tussin like drugs, generic nor brand name, except for a couple of the diabetic versions.
  • There was only a handful of the Nyquil brand bottles, but no generics or similar brands.
  • There was only a handful of the the cold/flu drugs in the pill forms.
  • Allergy medicine was fine.
  • Cough drops were present, but several of the generic ones were sold out.
  • Tylenol & Advil (adult versions) looked good, unless you looked behind them. They were only about 2-4 bottles deep each for each spot. Both generic and brand name.

I have used this brand of generic mucinex with good results.
  • Funny enough there was plenty of Mucinex, both the brand and the generic versions.
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ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU A TRUE STORY. In 2019,
I was in a nursing home for rehab for about 7 months.
A sick nurse attended me ( without a mask,) while complaining she was too sick to work
and shouldn't have been called into work in the middle of the night.
Needless to say, 3-4 days later, I was sick, a LOWER respiratory infection ( LUNGS) and getting sicker by the hour.
The first day I OFFICIALLY requested MUCINEX, but the nurses did not tell the Dr. Until he came in the next regular doctors visiting day! Then I wasn't told it was denied until I asked AGAIN where it was!
I told everyone I was ABOUT TO DIE FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO COUGH UP MUCOUS , BLOCKING MY BREATHING!

I got SCARED when the LAST GLOB OF MUCOUS, (THE SIZE OF TWO DOUBLE BUBBLE WADS OF CHEWING GUM)
THAT I WAS ABLE TO CLEAR GOT STUCK TO MY HAND, AND I COULDNT SHAKE IT OFF! It was that sticky.
No wonder I was not able to cough it up!

I had never seen mucous like that.
You must know HOW and WHY "something works",
When I found out the mucinex wasn't coming, I called my daughter, a head nurse in a Mt Vernon WA hospital.
and explained the situation to her.

She called my other daughter, who lives closer to me and ordered her to bring LOTS OF PINEAPPLE JUICE to me, because she had recently attended a head nurses conference where that very problem was addressed! Stickier mucous respiratory patients dying because they asphixiated, actually CHOKING to death on a thicker, sticky wad of mucous that would not move, and couldn't be coughed up!


She said, mucous is just PROTEIN AND WATER. The pineapple juice DISSOLVES THE PROTEIN THAT HOLDS THE MUCOUS TOGETHER! You know, that's the reason YOU CAN'T PUT FRESH PINEAPPLE IN JELLO!
The Jello is gelatin ( protein and water) , and the gelatin ((protein) is dissolved by the pineapple juice!

My other daughter brought the pineapple juice within the hour, and I drank it till I thought I'd pop and was FEELING the mucous lose its grip on me almost immediately! The next morning I had watery mucous easily coughed up!

I KNOW PINEAPPLE JUICE WORKS, AND I KNOW WHY!
Don't even take a chance with anything else, even Mucinex!

The fresh (frozen) pineapple juice has the most BROMELAIN in it,
that's the thing
in pineapple juice that dissolves the protein in mucous!
That BROMELAIN IS DESTROYED BY HEAT, so canned pineapple juice has LESS PROTEIN DISSOLVING BROMELAIN than frozen juice, because of the heat of the canning process.
 
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tiredude

Veteran Member
I HAVE TO TELL YOU A TRUE STORY. In 2019,
I was in a nursing home for rehab for about 7 months.
A sick nurse attended me ( without a mask,) while complaining she was too sick to work
and shouldn't have been called into work in the middle of the night.
Needless to say, 3-4 days later, I was sick, a LOWER respiratory infection ( LUNGS) and getting sicker by the hour.
The first day I OFFICIALLY requested MUCINEX, but the nurses did not tell the Dr. Until he came in the next regular doctors visiting day! Then I wasn't told it was denied until I asked AGAIN where it was!
I told everyone I was ABOUT TO DIE FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO COUGH UP MUCOUS , BLOCKING MY BREATHING!

I got SCARED when the LAST GLOB OF MUCOUS, (THE SIZE OF TWO DOUBLE BUBBLE WADS OF CHEWING GUM)
THAT I WAS ABLE TO CLEAR GOT STUCK TO MY HAND, AND I COULDNT SHAKE IT OFF! It was that sticky.
No wonder I was not able to cough it up!

I had never seen mucous like that.
You must know HOW and WHY "something works",
When I found out the mucnex wasn't coming, I called my daughter, a head nurse in a Mt Vernon WA hospital.
and explained the situation to her.

She called my other daughter, who lives closer to me and ordered her to bring LOTS OF PINEAPPLE JUICE to me, because she had recently attended a head nurses conference where that very problem was addressed! Stickier mucous respiratory patients dying because they asphixiated, actually CHOKING to death on a thicker, sticky wad of mucous that would not move, and couldn't be coughed up!


She said, mucous is just PROTEIN AND WATER. The pineapple juice DISSOLVES THE PROTEIN THAT HOLDS THE MUCOUS TOGETHER! You know, that's the reason YOU CAN'T PUT FRESH PINEAPPLE IN JELLO!
The Jello is gelatin ( protein and water) , and the gelatin ((protein) is dissolved by the pineapple juice!

My other daughter brought the pineapple juice within the hour, and I drank it till I thought I'd pop and was FEELING the mucous lose its grip on me almost immediately! The next morning I had watery mucous easily coughed up!

I KNOW PINEAPPLE JUICE WORKS, AND I KNOW WHY!
Don't even take a chance with anything else, even Mucinex!
i can agree with this.....I used pineapple juice my first round of covid.....i believe it really helped out. I have had it now 3 times..... i have no answers. Mucous is a problem and pineapple juice helps..... I also have bromelaine and mucinex but prefer to keep it as simple as possible.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I have decided to invest in AUGUSON FARMS and othe name brand, 25 year long term storage foods, even though they are more expensive.
I Was surprised my daughter's ( who don't like my prepping ) were happy with my decision.
The grocery store canned foods expire too fast.
I'm gonna have to buy a few cans every month. But I know it will accumulate fast.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I just got back from the Walgreens. Snooped around.
They had “most” everything with minor holes in it he cold/flu section…but!
I got more ibuprofen and house brand Mucinex.

****They’re getting ready to do “something” though, because right there in a restock cart was a sign about to go up saying, “we apologize for items being out of stock due to shortages “ …”we are happy to help you find substitutions “

So yeah, might be all we are going to get for awhile is out there right now.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Stopped by HEB near Austin, and looked at the cold & flu section. There was very little left, of almost anything.
  • There was 1 single bottle of children's Tylenol, and that was the only children's bottle of anything pain/fever related.
  • There were were no bottles of the Tussin like drugs, generic nor brand name, except for a couple of the diabetic versions.
  • There was only a handful of the Nyquil brand bottles, but no generics or similar brands.
  • There was only a handful of the the cold/flu drugs in the pill forms.
  • Allergy medicine was fine.
  • Cough drops were present, but several of the generic ones were sold out.
  • Tylenol & Advil (adult versions) looked good, unless you looked behind them. They were only about 2-4 bottles deep each for each spot. Both generic and brand name.


  • Funny enough there was plenty of Mucinex, both the brand and the generic versions.
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I just got back from a trip to Walmart. I saw no real shortages of children's or adult cold/flu med's. Some items were low, but still plenty available. Tupelo, MS. area.
 

Redcat

Veteran Member
Holy Cats, I just got out of Tops.

Things I didn't buy: 1 qt. of milk, $1.99 (I don't drink milk, just use for cooking).
1 package of precooked bacon (yes I know it shrinks), $7.99 for a 2.29 oz. package. That is $55.83 for a pound of precooked bacon. :eek:
A 2-pack of Brawny paper towels, $7.99

I ended up with 1 bag of "stuff" for $37.56. I did get 1 cooked chicken, bread and some ice cream (cheapest one, $3.99 for the quart/half size, 1 roll of generic paper towels, small bag of tops coffee.

My pantry is looking better and better every day.
 

Loretta Van Riet

Trying to hang out with the cool kids.
Holy Cats, I just got out of Tops.

Things I didn't buy: 1 qt. of milk, $1.99 (I don't drink milk, just use for cooking).
1 package of precooked bacon (yes I know it shrinks), $7.99 for a 2.29 oz. package. That is $55.83 for a pound of precooked bacon. :eek:
A 2-pack of Brawny paper towels, $7.99

I ended up with 1 bag of "stuff" for $37.56. I did get 1 cooked chicken, bread and some ice cream (cheapest one, $3.99 for the quart/half size, 1 roll of generic paper towels, small bag of tops coffee.

My pantry is looking better and better every day.
If you are an Amazon shopper... their "Presto" line of paper towels and toilet paper are great! And Amazon "basic" . You can get 20% of at times just by purchasing $50.00 worth of product.
 

anna43

Veteran Member
I have decided to invest in AUGUSON FARMS and othe name brand, 25 year long term storage foods, even though they are more expensive.
I Was surprised my daughter's ( who don't like my prepping ) were happy with my decision.
The grocery store canned foods expire too fast.
I'm gonna have to buy a few cans every month. But I know it will accumulate fast.
Grocery store canned food dates expire, but the food does not. It is good much much longer than the artificial dates that .gov requires. If you're just starting prepping and depending upon your budget, you might be wiser to spend those $'s on store canned foods to build your pantry before going for the expensive long term storage foods. Also, I rotate through the store-bought canned foods regularly while I keep the long-term storage foods for true emergencies. Both are good.
 

bassaholic

Veteran Member
Went to Trader Joes today (Norcal)...as my previous post looking mainly for eggs.

They had about half eggs stocked on shelf. No idea what they have in the back. So that was nice.

They have a particular brand that offers eggs from chickens that eat insects/bugs and all that. So it says. Nice dark orange yolks.

The store was crazy packed. Most I have ever seen it. Shelves were easily 50% empty.

Employee said, you know beginning of the year shopping. OK...well I can't remember other years (I drink a lot of IPA beer).

Then I went to Costco. They had eggs now. Couple of half pallets, normally they have several there.

A madhouse.

Could be normal?....but with all the people shopping made me think of how crazy it would be here if there was an actually run on food.
 

Barry Natchitoches

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Lots of people are paid on the last day of the month, but the holidays might have delayed their shopping trip.

Then you have the folks paid on the first day of the month.

Then you have all the folks on SSI (Social Security Disability program for folks who get a stipend despite having limited or no job history). They are a very large group, and they get paid on the first.

Then you have all the folks who work 5 days a week, but had today off, and decided to shop on their day off.

Yep, I bet the grocery stores were crowded…
 

Reasonable Rascal

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I had real bacon bits on my dinner salad tonight. Tone's brand if anyone cares. Just opened the can a couple of weeks ago, after it has sat in stores for 15 years or longer. Zero rancidity.

We also have canned butter and ghee that is around 8-10 years old. We have found that scraping off the top layer gets beyond the rancidity for those. Red Feather butter, and the ghee was the stuff sold by Safecastle when Vic was still the owner (Gourmet Clarified Butter Ghee is the only brand name on the can).

We stocked LTS foods back in the day but no longer feel the need to plan on 15-25 years out, so commercial canned foods are the new storage items. We anticipate needing to eat the stocks well before the great majority would ever go bad.

W-M did lower the price on Keystone chicken so we grabbed a couple of cans of that yesterday. That is now the only Keystone meat the local W-M carries, whereas they used to have the full line including the hash, and the smaller cans in addition to the larger. It was always a decently selling item so the discontinuance wasn't due to poor sales.

RR
 

phloydius

Veteran Member
I had real bacon bits on my dinner salad tonight. Tone's brand if anyone cares. Just opened the can a couple of weeks ago, after it has sat in stores for 15 years or longer. Zero rancidity.

I thought Tone's only made imitation bacon bits (aka, soy) not real bacon bits. Am I wrong? If I am I would love a link to the product that you had, as I would love to find real bits of bacon for long term storage.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Grocery store canned food dates expire, but the food does not. It is good much much longer than the artificial dates that .gov requires. If you're just starting prepping and depending upon your budget, you might be wiser to spend those $'s on store canned foods to build your pantry before going for the expensive long term storage foods. Also, I rotate through the store-bought canned foods regularly while I keep the long-term storage foods for true emergencies. Both are good.
I know that, but I'm 78, and I am more than FULLY PREPPED, it's just that my food will be around longer than I will, I suspect, and all these young, 50 year old and younger whipper snappers think everything turns toxic on a expiration date, and I won't be around to tell them otherwise.(again)

I told them that I was stocking up for THEM because they were not stocking up at the time, but I finally got through to them to stock up, though I don't know what THEY think is enough? Two weeks, two months?
I said to give the food to my neighbors, if you dont want it!

AND, I would hate to think they hauled everything from salt to peanut butter, olive oil, shortening and baked beans to the dump because it expired yesterday or will expire in a week, without even opening it to check it out!

I can't eat enough to rotate the grocery store canned food, I give away a lot.
But that's why I'm done buying anything but fresh stuff from the grocery store.
Its all going into long term 25 year foods, now.
 
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tnphil

Don't screw with an engineer
We also have canned butter and ghee that is around 8-10 years old. We have found that scraping off the top layer gets beyond the rancidity for those. Red Feather butter, and the ghee was the stuff sold by Safecastle when Vic was still the owner (Gourmet Clarified Butter Ghee is the only brand name on the can
Some of our RF canned butter is likely 15 years old, I open a can on occasion to check or if my wife needs butter and we're out.
I haven't found a can yet that had any rancidity. But, I also keep our house at 65 degrees or less year-round, and I assume that makes a difference.

Good to know about scraping off the top though, thanks RR.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I thought Tone's only made imitation bacon bits (aka, soy) not real bacon bits. Am I wrong? If I am I would love a link to the product that you had, as I would love to find real bits of bacon for long term storage.
Make your own real bacon or bacon bits! JUST put bacon in the oven on low heat (275?) Till it crisps and then can it ( with no water) in a pressure canner. (OF course,. You have to first separate the slicesi on the cookie sheets before you stick it into the oven!

SAVE THE BACON GREASE!
 
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phloydius

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Make your own! JUST put bacon in the oven on low heat (275?) Till it crisps and then can it ( with no water) in a pressure canner. (OF course,. You have to first separate the slicesi on the cookie sheet before you stick it into the oven!

Thank you. I can many things. However, I've done much reading on canning bacon with consumer equipment and feel although risk level seems pretty low, it is still to high for my family.
 

tnphil

Don't screw with an engineer
Thank you. I can many things. However, I've done much reading on canning bacon with consumer equipment and feel although risk level seems pretty low, it is still to high for my family.
I have not canned bacon yet, but the instructions I've seen seem pretty safe. I wouldn't cook it in the oven first, because 90 minutes in a pressure canner will cook it quite well. I suspect crisping and then processing in a canner will wind up giving you bacon bits. Ainitfunny may be able to elaborate from experience.

Just be sure to lay it out on parchment paper, fold in half and roll tightly before placing in the jar. The parchment paper will prevent it from being a big blob of bacon that won't separate easily.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I have not canned bacon yet, but the instructions I've seen seem pretty safe. I wouldn't cook it in the oven first, because 90 minutes in a pressure canner will cook it quite well. I suspect crisping and then processing in a canner will wind up giving you bacon bits. Ainitfunny may be able to elaborate from experience.

Just be sure to lay it out on parchment paper, fold in half and roll tightly before placing in the jar. The parchment paper will prevent it from being a big blob of bacon that won't separate easily.
I learned about making bacon in the oven, from my mother, When she came to live with us,
I was about 53 at the time, and I said why didn't you TELL ME SOONER, how to cook bacon?
It came out absolutely PERFECT, melt in your mouth crisp, not greasy, not hard in the meaty parts, perfect.
I have never canned bacon, but NOT COOKING IT IN THE OVEN FIRST, TO CRISP IT, and dry it, will NOT give you an appetizing product. OH, and you can forget about that parchment, because it will be so fragile after coming out of the oven, it will shatter into bacon bits as you put it into the jar to can it, and don't put water in the jar with the cooked bacon to can it,.
 
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Reasonable Rascal

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I thought Tone's only made imitation bacon bits (aka, soy) not real bacon bits. Am I wrong? If I am I would love a link to the product that you had, as I would love to find real bits of bacon for long term storage.
Looks like you are correct, and they no longer offer the real stuff, only imitation. I can find no mention any longer of the real stuff. This is a 1 lb can, BTW. Glad I have another can for after TSHTF.

RR
 

tnphil

Don't screw with an engineer
I learned about making bacon in the oven, from my mother, When she came to live with us,
I was about 53 at the time, and I said why didn't you TELL ME SOONER, how to cook bacon?
It came out absolutely PERFECT, melt in your mouth crisp, not greasy, not hard in the meaty parts, perfect.
I have never canned bacon, but NOT COOKING IT IN THE OVEN FIRST, TO CRISP IT, and dry it, will NOT give you an appetizing product. OH, and you can forget about that parchment, because it will be so fragile after coming out of the oven, it will shatter into bacon bits as you put it into the jar to can it, and don't put water in the jar with the cooked bacon to can it,.
If you cook in the oven on parchment paper, you gotta throw that away and use fresh parchment for the canning. You need it to separate the bacon strips.
I saw instructions here that look pretty good and outline the steps. He does mention putting it in the oven first, but not cooking it fully.
 

anna43

Veteran Member
Disclaimer, I've never done this. I've seen on several vlogs where people canned bacon using the parchment paper as described above. When they open the jar to use it, they put it in a skillet to crisp it up. I love bacon but the price is way too high for me to buy it. I think I have one package left in the freezer and then no more bacon for me.

The bacon bits I have are Hormel "Real Bacon Bits" and I purchased them at either HyVee or Fareway. No soy.
 

tnphil

Don't screw with an engineer
I bought some cans of Yoder's canned bacon awhile back. It's pretty good and wrapped as described in the DYI recipes.
I didn't buy it so much as to have bacon to cook but to flavor beans, etc. Even survival food should be tasty. :D
 

SouthernBreeze

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The bacon bits I have are Hormel "Real Bacon Bits"

Same here. I bought mine at Walmart. Some are at least 3 years old (I've got a good stash) and are still fresh when opened. I always cook my bacon in the oven and put the extra leftover cooked bacon in the freezer for bacon bits, but sometimes, I run out of those, and I use the Hormel.
 

jward

passin' thru
I think seriously about buying a pig instead of bacon bits
...and hardly a week goes by I don't kick myself in the butt for tearing down my 100yo+ smoke house.

Went thru all my eggs and those the GF donated me for holidayz, and had to buy eggs. * 6 and change to 7 and change for 18 o' em

Man o man. When did they start putting yellow water in where my girls tuck their yokes? That stuff in the stores is just nasty. I had forgotten. That is all.
 

phloydius

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Same here. I bought mine at Walmart. Some are at least 3 years old (I've got a good stash) and are still fresh when opened. I always cook my bacon in the oven and put the extra leftover cooked bacon in the freezer for bacon bits, but sometimes, I run out of those, and I use the Hormel.

Are your Hormel ones in glass, plastic jar, or plastic bag?

I've been getting the store brand version (from HEB) that come in a plastic bag, and they seem to last about 10 - 15 months before they mold or have another smell/taste problem causing me to throw them out. As far as I can tell the Best By date on them is generally about 8-9 months after manufacture.

I want to try some of the Hormel ones in the glass jar as I have read the shelf life is longer, but have not been able to find any.
 

SouthernBreeze

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Are your Hormel ones in glass, plastic jar, or plastic bag?

I've been getting the store brand version (from HEB) that come in a plastic bag, and they seem to last about 10 - 15 months before they mold or have another smell/taste problem causing me to throw them out. As far as I can tell the Best By date on them is generally about 8-9 months after manufacture.

I want to try some of the Hormel ones in the glass jar as I have read the shelf life is longer, but have not been able to find any.

The Hormel real bacon pieces and bits are in 3oz. plastic bottles. The oldest I have were bought in 2021 and expired in November of 2022. I have some newer ones that are the same size, but in glass bottles. If you store the bottles or bags in the freezer, they will last long after their expiration date. It's what I do with mine. I put all the bottles in a bag and place in the freezer.
 

phloydius

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The Hormel real bacon pieces and bits are in 3oz. plastic bottles. The oldest I have were bought in 2021 and expired in November of 2022. I have some newer ones that are the same size, but in glass bottles. If you store the bottles or bags in the freezer, they will last long after their expiration date. It's what I do with mine. I put all the bottles in a bag and place in the freezer.

I clearly need another freezer. :apc:
 

tnphil

Don't screw with an engineer
Are your Hormel ones in glass, plastic jar, or plastic bag?

I've been getting the store brand version (from HEB) that come in a plastic bag, and they seem to last about 10 - 15 months before they mold or have another smell/taste problem causing me to throw them out. As far as I can tell the Best By date on them is generally about 8-9 months after manufacture.

I want to try some of the Hormel ones in the glass jar as I have read the shelf life is longer, but have not been able to find any.
I suspect (but haven't tried) that pouring the bacon bits into a FoodSaver bag and vacuum-sealing would greatly extend their shelf life, especially with a fresh oxygen absorber (not the one that comes in the bag of bits).
I sometimes dehydrate leftover sliced ham. It keeps quite a while, although I have put some in plastic bags in the freezer. I need to try vacuum-sealing that.
 

Terrwyn

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I have spent the last 2 early morning hours trying to put in one order on Instacart. Finally gave up and postponed it. Cannot put together an order at a single store. So I'm going to regroup and try to figure it out. Mostly decent eggs are not available and Horizon Organic milk is hit and miss. Doesn't pay to be a favorite brand shopper right now. I refuse to settle for something other than Horizon. It tastes better, lasts longer and the carton doesn't leak like some of the other brands. Hot dog buns never seen the likes. Why a shortage of buns?
What I don't get is the egg shortage. Just on the city side of the mountains there are 3 or 4 organic egg farms. None of the markets carry them. Our local health food store used to so will call them. They don't deliver though so may have to get DH to go inside. Anyway, I'm fed up and going to take a nap.
 

phloydius

Veteran Member
I bought some big, 10 oz bags of HEB brand bacon bits but decided that doesn’t work well in our house. It’s not a good deal when you get one out of the pantry to use and your husband thinks the rest is a snack and eats them like a bag of peanuts.

Those bags are very yummy (but expensive) snacks!
 

WalknTrot

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I have spent the last 2 early morning hours trying to put in one order on Instacart. Finally gave up and postponed it. Cannot put together an order at a single store. So I'm going to regroup and try to figure it out. Mostly decent eggs are not available and Horizon Organic milk is hit and miss. Doesn't pay to be a favorite brand shopper right now. I refuse to settle for something other than Horizon. It tastes better, lasts longer and the carton doesn't leak like some of the other brands. Hot dog buns never seen the likes. Why a shortage of buns?
What I don't get is the egg shortage. Just on the city side of the mountains there are 3 or 4 organic egg farms. None of the markets carry them. Our local health food store used to so will call them. They don't deliver though so may have to get DH to go inside. Anyway, I'm fed up and going to take a nap.
Aldi organic milk lasts forever in the fridge. Just sayin' you might need to look elsewhere. I know the West Coast for some reason doesn't seem to do Aldi.
 

Digger

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Dover Arkansas. Our Harps store has large eggs at $7.48 a dozen. The 18 count is $11.98. 18 is the largest package they have. Eggs had been on sale through Dec 31. These are the new regular prices. They are cheaper at WM in Russellville, but that is another 10 miles. I haven't been there in awhile. I have chickens so I never buy eggs. I just keep tabs on the price of eggs.

My King Arthur bread flour was $6.98 at Harps. I bought the last 2 on the shelf. There was other flour, but not other bread flour. Milk is still under $5 a gallon at Harps. The store was mostly well stocked, but the prices keep rising
 
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