FOOD Report food & grocery shortages / price increases here: 2022 Edition
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This article addresses the issue of mold on homemade breads, and ways to slow that issue. Good luck, everyone!
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How to Keep Homemade Bread From Molding | Knead Rise Bake
As I mentioned in my earlier post about bread going stale, there's nothing worse than tending to a beautiful, home-made loaf of bread, only to…
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I was just at local Dollar General to pick up a few cans of corn and carrots. When I was there last week the price on store brand was 55¢ today a can was $1.25. I did not buy as I want to see what price Aldi has before purchasing. They did have some Del Monte for $1 per can. A week ago today Aldi had corn for 49¢ and carrots for 50¢. The clerk said that DG had not been raising prices to keep up with costs so are now "normalizing" prices so big jumps all at once.
Normallguy
"just a human bein'"
Stopped at Dollar General today and picked up a dozen eggs a 1/2 gal of milk.
Eggs $3.50
Milk $3.85
8% inflation my ass!
Eggs $3.50
Milk $3.85
8% inflation my ass!
I just freeze it when I get it and take out and unthaw when I make a sandwitch.
phloydius
Veteran Member
Thought this might be interesting to those on this thread. I've been tracking some of the items I buy, to get a feel for what the real food inflation rate might be. Here are a few of the items. The first date is all from the end of March & early April in 2021. The 2022 prices are the current prices as of today. For the items listed below, they are the exact same product & from the exact same store (HEB, which does not use the store discount cards). The prices are the normal price, not a sale, special offer, or eternally-on-sale sort of prices. These are the prices that everyone typically pays, unless they have coupons.
Item________________________________________2021_______2022_____Increase
Sparkling Water Case of 12 . . . . . . . .$ 2.84 . . $ 3.56 . . 25.35%
Grain-Free Dog Food 15lb Bag . . . . . . .$18.42 . . $22.12 . . 20.09%
Plastic Forks/Spoons/Knives . . . . . . . $ 1.03 . . $ 1.55 . . 50.49%
Milk, Whole, Organic, Half Gallon . . . . $ 3.07 . . $ 3.38 . . 10.10%
Coffee, Cafe Ole Organic, Kcup 12ct . . . $ 6.68 . . $ 7.34 . . 9.88%
HEB Easy Melt Cheese 32oz . . . . . . . . $ 6.17 . . $ 6.17 . . 0.00%
Santitas Tortilla Chips 11oz . . . . . . .$ 2.35 . . $ 2.35 . . 0.00%
Kraft American Singles 16ct . . . . . . . $ 3.38 . . $ 3.50 . . 3.55%
Armour Potted Meat 3oz . . . . . . . . . .$ 0.52 . . $ 0.66 . . 26.92%
Bravo Free & Clear Laundry Soap 100oz . . $10.28 . . $11.31 . . 10.02%
Starbucks Ground Coffee 12oz . . . . . . .$ 6.98 . . $ 9.25 . . 32.52%
Baby Spinach Bag 6oz . . . . . . . . . . .$ 2.04 . . $ 2.71 . . 32.84%
Bits of Real Bacon 2.5oz . . . . . . . . .$ 1.33 . . $ 2.06 . . 54.89%
Vlasic Zesty Dill Spears, 24oz . . . . . .$ 2.04 . . $ 2.75 . . 34.80%
Edited to add: Well crud, spent a bunch of time formatting it, which was lost in posting. Reformatting to make it easier to read with dots.
Item________________________________________2021_______2022_____Increase
Sparkling Water Case of 12 . . . . . . . .$ 2.84 . . $ 3.56 . . 25.35%
Grain-Free Dog Food 15lb Bag . . . . . . .$18.42 . . $22.12 . . 20.09%
Plastic Forks/Spoons/Knives . . . . . . . $ 1.03 . . $ 1.55 . . 50.49%
Milk, Whole, Organic, Half Gallon . . . . $ 3.07 . . $ 3.38 . . 10.10%
Coffee, Cafe Ole Organic, Kcup 12ct . . . $ 6.68 . . $ 7.34 . . 9.88%
HEB Easy Melt Cheese 32oz . . . . . . . . $ 6.17 . . $ 6.17 . . 0.00%
Santitas Tortilla Chips 11oz . . . . . . .$ 2.35 . . $ 2.35 . . 0.00%
Kraft American Singles 16ct . . . . . . . $ 3.38 . . $ 3.50 . . 3.55%
Armour Potted Meat 3oz . . . . . . . . . .$ 0.52 . . $ 0.66 . . 26.92%
Bravo Free & Clear Laundry Soap 100oz . . $10.28 . . $11.31 . . 10.02%
Starbucks Ground Coffee 12oz . . . . . . .$ 6.98 . . $ 9.25 . . 32.52%
Baby Spinach Bag 6oz . . . . . . . . . . .$ 2.04 . . $ 2.71 . . 32.84%
Bits of Real Bacon 2.5oz . . . . . . . . .$ 1.33 . . $ 2.06 . . 54.89%
Vlasic Zesty Dill Spears, 24oz . . . . . .$ 2.04 . . $ 2.75 . . 34.80%
Edited to add: Well crud, spent a bunch of time formatting it, which was lost in posting. Reformatting to make it easier to read with dots.
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packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
I store bread like that in the freezer.
I store all bread in the freezer. I take out maybe six slices to keep unthawed and when that's gone, I'll take out six more. Since I started doing this, I haven't thrown out any bread. I usually buy bread at Aldi--the wide loaf whole wheat for $1.85. Same basic bread at HyVee or Fareway is approaching $5.00 a loaf for Sara Lee.
SouthernBreeze
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Same here. I store all bread in the freezer. I take out only what I need a day at a time. Sliced bread comes apart really easy if only thawed just a bit. I don't have to thaw out the whole loaf completely just to get a couple or four slices.
nomifyle
TB Fanatic
I often put bread in the freezer but it forms the ice crystals and gets soggy on one end. Next time I buy bread I'm going to wrap it in a paper towel, put it back in the bag and in the freezer. I would like to have some rye bread on hand from time to time.
I'm particularly fond of ezekiel bread.
I'm particularly fond of ezekiel bread.
The most important part of freezing bread is to open the bag before you set it out to thaw. Unsliced bread should be set on a rack to thaw, then out back in the bag. This prevents the sogginess problem.
Years ago, someone did an experiment on the best ways to keep bread fresh and not molding. Refrigerating it prevented mold, but mad the bread turn stale/dry much faster than room temperature. Freezing worked best.
Since we don't use as much bread as we used to, when I bake bread, I bake 4 loaves. Once fully cool, I cut them in half and freeze them. Defrost with the zip lock bag open, and it stays fresh until used up.
Summerthyme
Years ago, someone did an experiment on the best ways to keep bread fresh and not molding. Refrigerating it prevented mold, but mad the bread turn stale/dry much faster than room temperature. Freezing worked best.
Since we don't use as much bread as we used to, when I bake bread, I bake 4 loaves. Once fully cool, I cut them in half and freeze them. Defrost with the zip lock bag open, and it stays fresh until used up.
Summerthyme
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bracketquant
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Food shrinkage suggests that next it will be rotisserie rock cornish game hens.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
bracketquant
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You don't buy sporks?
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
THANKS A LOT FOR THIS TIP!
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
Try first washing your hands, opening the bread bag, pulling out the bread and SLOWLY running A UV SANITIZING LIGHT OVER all sides of it, then putting it back in the bag.
bracketquant
Veteran Member
A trip to WalMart today, with the biggest surprise. Basically a 100% fully stocked store of everything, with the exception of the most expensive cuts of beef, and noodles. Beef was a bit less than half filled, noodles almost out. The store manager continues to be a genius, as he overorders/overstocks items.
There are 30 aisles of food, not counting the meat/deli/dairy off to the side. There is now one aisle exclusively for the overstocked items. Each shelving section in the local store is about 4 1/2 feet wide, and 6 rows high. One single type of item (no differing package sizes, flavors, brands, etc...) takes up that space. Items vary from pancake syrup, mayo (yes ,Dennis), pretzels, cookies, cereal, coffee, popcorn, and more.
A see a few hoarders, with cases of canned goods and a dozen dozen of eggs, but people no longer scan the shelves and take the last of something even if they don't need it at the time. The herd appears to be back to being calm.
There are 30 aisles of food, not counting the meat/deli/dairy off to the side. There is now one aisle exclusively for the overstocked items. Each shelving section in the local store is about 4 1/2 feet wide, and 6 rows high. One single type of item (no differing package sizes, flavors, brands, etc...) takes up that space. Items vary from pancake syrup, mayo (yes ,Dennis), pretzels, cookies, cereal, coffee, popcorn, and more.
A see a few hoarders, with cases of canned goods and a dozen dozen of eggs, but people no longer scan the shelves and take the last of something even if they don't need it at the time. The herd appears to be back to being calm.
energy_wave
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I went to Dollar General today. A can of black beans normally .85 cents is now $1.15. My favorite box of cereal went from $3.50 to $4.25.
Wait until those on welfare see how little they can buy at the store. They'll have to cut out meat if the want to buy their cases of soda.
Wait until those on welfare see how little they can buy at the store. They'll have to cut out meat if the want to buy their cases of soda.
bw
Fringe Ranger
We routinely break up rotisserie chicken, vacseal and freeze the breasts, thighs and drumsticks, and make a meal of the carcass meat and wings on the first night and then soup from bones. We don't eat much meat, and can get five meals for the two of us out of a big chicken, or four from a middling one, plus soup.
If we have bread that has gone stale...tear off the crust...and tear it up and dry it hard for dressing...and make bread crumbs from the crusts and the lititle bit bread left on the crusts..some of the bread crumbs I add italian seasoning too.
I have gallon jars for the dressing bread.
I have gallon jars for the dressing bread.
I never automatically assume someone with flats of cans and heaping cart(s) are hoarders. I mean, maybe they have 10 kids at home or they're shopping for a group home or are once a month (6 months?) shopper or whatever. Maybe they are hoarding, but it's really not for me to judge. Even if they are hoarding, that hopefully means when the stores/shelves are empty in the future (November?) they shouldn't be part of the crowd rioting in the stores. Everyone that is prepared and not part of the problem in November benefits all of us.
Barry Natchitoches
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Stock pilers purchase food well before hand, when there is plenty for everybody and the trucks will be coming to resupply in a reasonable amount of time.
They deprive nobody at the time of their purchase, but they make things much better for everybody else when the crisis hits, as they are not the ones fighting for the last can in the hungry crowd.
Hoarders take as much as they can get when there is not enough for all who are in need. They did not think ahead of time, nor prepare during the time of plenty. Every can or morsel a horder buys deprives another hungry person.
Stockpilers help in crises by staying at home and letting others have what is left. They are part of the solution.
Hoarders take what others need, when they need it. They are a big part of the problem.
A person who buys heaping flats of canned veggies right now, before the crisis, should be commorated. Not critisized, or have negative judgment passed upon them.
They deprive nobody at the time of their purchase, but they make things much better for everybody else when the crisis hits, as they are not the ones fighting for the last can in the hungry crowd.
Hoarders take as much as they can get when there is not enough for all who are in need. They did not think ahead of time, nor prepare during the time of plenty. Every can or morsel a horder buys deprives another hungry person.
Stockpilers help in crises by staying at home and letting others have what is left. They are part of the solution.
Hoarders take what others need, when they need it. They are a big part of the problem.
A person who buys heaping flats of canned veggies right now, before the crisis, should be commorated. Not critisized, or have negative judgment passed upon them.
Jeff Allen
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This week in Indiana DW paid over $9 for a quart of 1/2 n 1/2 at Sam’s…
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Florida's citrus industry is on track for lowest yield since WWII
The overall citrus crop for the current year is on pace to fill 42.6 million boxes.
By Jim Turner and News Service of Florida on Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 11:52 am
Photo via Adobe Images
Florida's struggling citrus industry continues to see a decline in the crop for the current growing season, with the harvest on track for the lowest yield since before World War II.
With the latest sign of trouble for the industry attributed to a recent cold snap, the U.S. Department of Agriculture on Friday dropped its Florida orange forecast by more than 7 percent from the March update, pushing the decline since the first forecast was issued in October to nearly 19 percent.
Meanwhile, grapefruit production has been cut nearly 8 percent from earlier predictions.
“After cold weather events, we expect to see dips like this,” Shelley Rossetter, the Florida Citrus Commission’s assistant director of global marketing, said in an email Friday. “They are never what we want to see but are a part of the set of challenges growers face every season.”
Despite an increased demand for orange juice at the start of the coronavirus pandemic, the industry has been on a downward projection for nearly two decades because of residential and commercial development, foreign imports, changes in beverage-consumption habits and, since 2005, an incurable bacterial disease known as citrus greening, or Huanglongbing.
The 2020-2021 season ended with 52.8 million industry standard 90-pound boxes filled by oranges. Another 4.1 million boxes contained grapefruit and 890,000 boxes were filled by specialty crops, which are mostly tangerines and tangelos.
The overall citrus crop for the current year is on pace to fill 42.6 million boxes, including 38.2 million boxes of oranges, 3.6 million boxes of grapefruit and 800,000 boxes of specialty crops.
For an industry that two decades ago produced 230 million boxes of oranges and had all citrus production at 287.2 million boxes, the current season would be the smallest amount since 40.87 million boxes were produced in the 1937-38 season.
The Hurricane Irma-ravaged 2017-2018 season, in comparison, finished with about 49 million boxes.
In a prepared statement Friday, Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried said that her department “remains committed to supporting citrus growers every way we can.”
“This legislative session, my department and I secured more than $18 million for our citrus industry, including $8 million for research and $6 million to combat citrus pests and diseases,” Fried said. “Consumers can also help by choosing Fresh From Florida citrus when shopping to support our local citrus growers as they work to help us keep Florida growing.”
A record $112.1 billion budget (HB 5001) passed by state lawmakers this spring includes $3 million for the Department of Citrus to research citrus disease and $5 million to conduct large-scale, science-based plantings to determine steps to increase production of citrus. Half the money for the plantings would go to growers with between five and 2,500 acres.
Another $2 million would go into a greenhouse operation where citrus greening-tolerant trees and seedlings would be grown.
The budget, which Gov. Ron DeSantis has not received yet, also includes $12 million for citrus marketing, with an additional $5 million earmarked for consumer and influence engagement regarding the “awareness of the health, safety, wellness, nutrition, and uses of Florida citrus products.”
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
Back in 1979 when there wasn't any threat, my 80yo Yugoslavian immigrant (she came in 1952) next door neighbor, who had lived through 5 wars on her little island in the Mediterranean island home was in Gig Harbor, WA, now an American citizen, now in a brand new home and STILL PREPPING FOR THE NEXT WAR!
She taught me a lot. She had popcorn tins with hard as a rock sweet rolls in them, baked and deliberately dried out to store to eat with tea. She said the only way you can eat them was to dip them in your hot tea and scrape the wet bread off with your teeth! There was method to their maddness, in that nobody ate it fast or too much! It was delicious, rock hard or not! She put egg in the dough. they were sweet with honey and cinnamon.
She salted (and later smoked)
boxes of salmon in her garage, that her husband brought home, he was a commercial fisherman. She baby sat her grandchildren full time. She only had a 1/4 acre lot right in downtown Gig Harbor, but she kept a few chickens and ducks, the ducks loved eating slugs, which all her neighbors were poisoning the slugs, because they were everywhere. She had a small vegetable garden which she grew stuff even in the winter!! She grew cabbage and garlic and all kinds of greens.
She wasted nothing. She was the most dedicated Catholic Christian I know. She had a heavy accent, and would inquire of EVERY PERSON SHE MET IN THE COURSE OF THE DAY, (THAT SHE DID NOT ALREADY KNOW), asking them, "Have you met my Jesus?" And, regale them with all Christ had done for her, which was truly miraculous, to say the least.
God prospered her mightily. I think her husband was not the smart one, i think he drank but i dont know for sure. Neither drove. She worked cleaning houses while her husband was out fishing, and did not ask for a wage but trusted the people would pay what was fair, some only paying her with an old pair of worn out shoes for working all day!
She saved all her money and bought cheap land, Small lots, too small to farm but outside the city. When Seattle renovated the inner city the old houses were almost free, she bought several houses and had her husband and his fisherman buddies put them on barges to float down to Gig Harbor, and she put them on her empty lots and made rental homes of them.
She ended up a millionaire because of the value of all those homes and she kept the first home she bought Only a block away, when she got to America renting it out too. She put he son and daughter through a Catholic college, him becoming a school principal, then local politician, her becoming an RN.
She bought him and her daughter brand new houses also.
( at the time 1977) they were $78,000 now selling for $500,000 to $750,000.each with a gorgeous view of the beautiful Gig Harbor.
She taught me a lot. She had popcorn tins with hard as a rock sweet rolls in them, baked and deliberately dried out to store to eat with tea. She said the only way you can eat them was to dip them in your hot tea and scrape the wet bread off with your teeth! There was method to their maddness, in that nobody ate it fast or too much! It was delicious, rock hard or not! She put egg in the dough. they were sweet with honey and cinnamon.
She salted (and later smoked)
boxes of salmon in her garage, that her husband brought home, he was a commercial fisherman. She baby sat her grandchildren full time. She only had a 1/4 acre lot right in downtown Gig Harbor, but she kept a few chickens and ducks, the ducks loved eating slugs, which all her neighbors were poisoning the slugs, because they were everywhere. She had a small vegetable garden which she grew stuff even in the winter!! She grew cabbage and garlic and all kinds of greens.
She wasted nothing. She was the most dedicated Catholic Christian I know. She had a heavy accent, and would inquire of EVERY PERSON SHE MET IN THE COURSE OF THE DAY, (THAT SHE DID NOT ALREADY KNOW), asking them, "Have you met my Jesus?" And, regale them with all Christ had done for her, which was truly miraculous, to say the least.
God prospered her mightily. I think her husband was not the smart one, i think he drank but i dont know for sure. Neither drove. She worked cleaning houses while her husband was out fishing, and did not ask for a wage but trusted the people would pay what was fair, some only paying her with an old pair of worn out shoes for working all day!
She saved all her money and bought cheap land, Small lots, too small to farm but outside the city. When Seattle renovated the inner city the old houses were almost free, she bought several houses and had her husband and his fisherman buddies put them on barges to float down to Gig Harbor, and she put them on her empty lots and made rental homes of them.
She ended up a millionaire because of the value of all those homes and she kept the first home she bought Only a block away, when she got to America renting it out too. She put he son and daughter through a Catholic college, him becoming a school principal, then local politician, her becoming an RN.
She bought him and her daughter brand new houses also.
( at the time 1977) they were $78,000 now selling for $500,000 to $750,000.each with a gorgeous view of the beautiful Gig Harbor.
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John Deere Girl
Veteran Member
We have a big family. People probably think I have a ridiculous amount in my cart when I shop in person, but I mostly order online for pick up anymore. I also buy for family who can't shop. I don't pay attention to what others have in their cart, because it's none of my business.
Mary Contrary
Inactive
Ha ha that's what I used to do a year ago. Give them a hot dog for breakfast. How they love them. Then I got this idea to slice them in small chunks and dry in the food dryer - GREAT for treats!!
Now I buy those frozen bags of small meatballs at Dollar Tree and give them each 3 for breakfast. There's only 9 in the bag. Used to be 14, but the bag now says 10, but only 9 in the bag.
I like the meatballs cuz way less salt. My dashhound likes to swallow them whole cuz he's a pig so I break his in half. The tiny dog I break in small pieces. The big American Bulldog just eats them whole. Dried sliced hot dogs are pretty good. They last a super long time if kept in a plastic milk or water jug. Tasty too cuz I tried one.
Oh yeah hot dogs in Mac & cheese is real good. I like to add peas too.
Babs
Veteran Member
You don't look into someone else's cart to see if they have more than you. The only time you look into someone else's cart is to see if they have enough.
Mary Contrary
Inactive
wow cuz the other day chicken legs were $1.95 a lb. A month ago was $1.19 and before that was .99.
I get a whole cooked chicken here and it's enough for me and my 3 dogs and 2 cats. I share it with all of them. I don't eat a lot anymore., And I don't have a lot of room in my small fridge so we eat it all up. Used to cost $5.00 a year ago now is $7.
Mary Contrary
Inactive
Eggs here a couple days ago at Aldi's were $2.49! A week ago were $1.65.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
Chicken leg quarters are about ,$ .50- $0.65 a pound if you buy the 10lb bag at walmart.
YOU get 5 lb of LEGS and 5 lb of THIGHS FOR ABOUT $5 -$6.50 for 10 pounds of Chicken!
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ANYONE PAYS MORE FOR THEM!
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Mary Contrary
Inactive
Oh that's a real good price, but I got a tiny freezer and small fridge so they won't fit. I think I bought a bag a year ago, but they spoiled too fast and I gave them to the dogs.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
WHY DON'T YOU BUY A FREEZER?
Working Freezers on Craigslist go from FREE to skys the limit!
For example: gal getting rid of freezer FREE because it didnt have auto-defrost!
WATCH CRAIGSLIST REGULARLY!
Sears Coldspot Freezer (FREE) - appliances - by owner - sale
Sears Coldspot Freezer 15.9 cu. ft. Model 2423 Works perfectly, but no auto-defrost Pick-up involves no steps/stairs
seattle.craigslist.org
Refrigerator - appliances - by owner - sale
We got a new fridge when we remodeled our kitchen. Don’t need this one. Water and ice dispenser work. We were going to keep it for extra beverage and freezer storage but we don’t have room for it....
seattle.craigslist.org
Where are you Mary? I HAVE TO HAVE THE TOWN SO I CAN LOOK ON CRAIGLIST FOR YOU.
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Mary Contrary
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probably cuz they ran out of the regular sugar.
I have /had a small freezer. I didn't know it died. I had 22 tubs of butter all spoiled. Quite awhile ago. I had to throw it all away. Now I can't buy or freeze stuff cuz have a tiny freezer in the small fridge.
Mary Contrary
Inactive
I wish I could, but no help to pick one up and no one to help throw out the old one. I have a dolly in the cellar, but no one around to help. I'm truly all alone and isolated. I guess I'm used to living a hard life and doing without.WHY DON'T YOU BUY A FREEZER?
Working Freezers on Craigslist go from FREE to skys the limit!
For example: gal getting rid of freezer FREE because it didnt have auto-defrost!
WATCH CRAIGSLIST REGULARLY!
Sears Coldspot Freezer (FREE) - appliances - by owner - sale
Sears Coldspot Freezer 15.9 cu. ft. Model 2423 Works perfectly, but no auto-defrost Pick-up involves no steps/stairsseattle.craigslist.org
Refrigerator - appliances - by owner - sale
We got a new fridge when we remodeled our kitchen. Don’t need this one. Water and ice dispenser work. We were going to keep it for extra beverage and freezer storage but we don’t have room for it....seattle.craigslist.org
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
Call the local churches and ask for help.!
I called the Knights of Columbus when I had 2 family members on oxygen and No DOOR at that end of the house to get out if there was a fire! I told them i needed someone to take out the big window in the bedroom and replace it with a sliding patio door so i could evacuate my elderly mother and disabled husband, both on oxygen, if there was a fire. I said i'd pay for the sliding glass door. They had a team of six husky guys come out the following weekend and it was done in 4 hours. They even sprang for a porch light and a vertical blind and installed it!
in about year 2002.
My nightmares about a fire and trying to save them through HIGH bedroom windows (4' + feet off the floor) ended.
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Mary Contrary
Inactive
That's a great idea. I can do that. I think they like to help "elderly" people.
Mary Contrary
Inactive
please give recipe. I love fried cabbage and cabbage is still cheap.
I'm 73 and my whole life I never saw empty shelves!!!
Sounds like they are not making any more so no new stuff to go around.
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