FOOD Report food & grocery shortages / price increases here: 2022 Edition

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SouthernBreeze

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Not suggesting that this is guaranteed, but consider the possibility that $22.00 for them may be the cheapest price you'll ever see again, and would look like a bargain if they get to $148. A lot of it depends on if you think this is a temporary supply/demand issue bringing the prices down in the future; or if you think that it is monetary inflation and the price will never be this low again even if inflation returns to 0%-2%.

Like I said, I've got a good stock right now. I'll wait to see if the price comes down, before buying anymore. If it doesn't, or continues to go up, I'll rethink it. We eat a lot of chicken, and that's still the cheapest meat here. Pork comes in a close second. Other than ground beef, beef is almost out of our price range already.
 

Digger

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Baby formula that my sisters and I were raised on.

13 oz can evaporated whole milk
One can water
1 tablespoons Karo syrup.
Mix and refrigerate leftovers.

I have read recipes that say to add 18-19 oz of water. And that 2 tablespoons of white sugar can be used instead of Karo. The added sugar helps the baby break down the protein in the canned milk. Do not use honey if giving to babies under 12 months.

If using this formula more than a day or two, you need to add vitamin drops to your baby supplies. I am pretty sure mom gave them to us with our homemade formula.
 

summerthyme

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When my DS was born (1976), he nursed for a few months and then needed to go on formula. Didn’t tolerate any of it, so I switched to a formula I made with evaporated milk and Karo syrup. Can’t remember the recipe but he tolerated it well. Recommended by the pediatrician.
All three girls here were breastfed for 6 months.,solid foods were introduced when they showed interest (around 4-5 months)., and they ate everything the adults did, just chopped finely. They drank raw cows milk to supplement nursing, and they thrived.

Summerthyme
 

nomifyle

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Topo-chico mineral water has tripled in price. The best price I can find is $30.00 for a case of 12 glass bottles. It use to be 9.98 for the same. I love the stuff and could drink it every day but I save it for indigestion, which doesn't happen very often. I'd really have to think twice about buying a case at that price, but then again I use it for medicinal purposes, so maybe.

ETA, I just found a better price at Sams, but I don't have a membership anymore because we rarely went there. Although they don't have it in my area.

Judy
 
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nomifyle

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When I was little...there was NO formula...we were raised on milk....if I had a child I would use organic whole milk..
A lot cheaper.....my generation did fine on whole milk.
Today I am 75 with no health issues and on no meds.
Same here, I'm 75 with no health issues that require prescription meds. I do take OTC allegery meds, I've had allergies all of my life.

Judy
 

annieosage

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When shopping at Smiths in NV an 18 pack of eggs was $1.89. Just checked the app today and it’s $3.99

We bought 2 dozen at Costco today for $3.79.
 

Southside

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Same here, I'm 75 with no health issues that require prescription meds. I do take OTC allegery meds, I've had allergies all of my life.

Judy
Judy,

Me too, on the allergies. I did one thing 2 years ago that made a world of difference.
Started taking Curcumen/Turmeric. Took a few months, but it completely cleared up my sinuses.
Much less snoring, too. I can breathe!
 

nomifyle

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Judy,

Me too, on the allergies. I did one thing 2 years ago that made a world of difference.
Started taking Curcumen/Turmeric. Took a few months, but it completely cleared up my sinuses.
Much less snoring, too. I can breathe!
I take it too, but haven't in awhile, I'll have to pay attention when I start taking it again. I've been taking it off and on for years.
 

anna43

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I think the formula recipe(s) are an important prep. Unless you have a lactating cow or goat, then a shelf stable supply of formula ingredients is extremely important. Baby vitamins should also be kept on-hand if you have or are expecting an infant. Our food supplies are currently too undependable to take a chance on not having what a baby might need. Even a nursing mom should have a shelf of what-if supplies for baby and that includes cloth diapers. I'd hate to be in the position of needing disposable diapers only to find none at the stores. It's too late then to find a supply of cloth diapers and you'll end up using your dish towels and hand towels which would be miserable for both mom and baby. Also diaper pins and baby bottles etc. You can get along without a ton of today's "required" baby equipment, but you cannot get along without formula, bottles, pins and diapers. The majority of babies since the 1970's have been in disposable diapers and fed prepared formula so all the mother's since then have no idea how to manage without those items.

I've been ordering my generic Claritin from HealthWarehouse.com for a couple of years. I believe my last 300 count bottle cost $23 which is ridiculously low compared to buying 20 pills for $20 at Walmart, Walgreens or CVS.
 

IdahoMom

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It used to be commonplace to feed babies the evaporated milk, water and Karo syrup formula. People practically hyperventilate now if you even mention not giving babies that powdered, chemical crap.

We also used to give them vitamins in a vitamin dropper. I can't remember what the vitamins were, but I can still smell them if I think about it, eww.

Here is one recipe:
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FollowTruth

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It used to be commonplace to feed babies the evaporated milk, water and Karo syrup formula. People practically hyperventilate now if you even mention not giving babies that powdered, chemical crap.

We also used to give them vitamins in a vitamin dropper. I can't remember what the vitamins were, but I can still smell them them if I think about it, eww.

Here is one recipe:
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And I could never get the liquid vitamin stains out of any clothing it touched!!
 

school marm

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It used to be commonplace to feed babies the evaporated milk, water and Karo syrup formula. People practically hyperventilate now if you even mention not giving babies that powdered, chemical crap.

We also used to give them vitamins in a vitamin dropper. I can't remember what the vitamins were, but I can still smell them if I think about it, eww.

Here is one recipe:
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My husband still has his card--the exact same paper, but without the additional special instructions.
 

WalknTrot

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My husband still has his card--the exact same paper, but without the additional special instructions.
I have the one my mom got from the hospital with me. It's the same, except I think there were some liquid vitamins in the mix. Then cow's milk asap. So far, so good, except I believe I was diagnosed with a beginning case of rickets (D deficiency) sometime early on, and corrected. Maybe one reason my major joints are crap, and I have a bit of osteoporosis today. Who knows.

Ma worked 40 hrs/week up to right before and again soon after I was born. That, along with her general temperament (haha) there was no way she would have considered breast feeding.
 

Parakeet

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Was just at Sams. Six pack chicken breast in cans is now $22. Not a piece of raw chicken to be had, there was a limit of two. They’re selling lamb and goat now. Got the last rotisserie chicken, still $5. Will report on Aldi later. central iowa
I just checked Sam's Club online. If you have a Sam's Plus membership you can order their canned chicken for delivery (free shipping) $15.98 for six cans.

Since it appears their online prices may be different than their in club prices, it might be worth comparing both places before buying shelf stable items.
 

annieosage

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I just checked Sam's Club online. If you have a Sam's Plus membership you can order their canned chicken for delivery (free shipping) $15.98 for six cans.

Since it appears their online prices may be different than their in club prices, it might be worth comparing both places before buying shelf stable items.

What size cans?
 

bracketquant

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I expect the cost of potatoe chips to dramatically increase this summer fall do to UKR war
Hit to Ukrainian sunflower means US cooking oil price spike

Russia’sinvasion of Ukrainehas sown chaos across the country,shuttering factoriesand slashing farm production in what has been dubbed the “breadbasket of Europe.” While Ukraine produces millions of tons of wheat, barley, and corn each year, it also accounts for nearly half of the global supply of sunflower oil.
Sunflower oil has become a major cooking oil that is valued for its mild flavor and health benefits. Because of the war-induced shortages, companies have had to turn to other vegetable oils, such as those derived from olives and soybeans.

The price of sunflower oil has skyrocketed 44% over the past year, according to theWall Street Journal, whichciteddata from Mintec Ltd. Palm oil has increased by 61%, and soybean oil is up 41%, all hitting record highs. Olive oil has lurched upward by 15%.
INFLATION KILLING OFF FAMOUS NEW YORK CITY $1 PIZZA SLICES
John Sandbakken is the executive director of the National Sunflower Association, which is the trade association for all of the sunflower growers in the United States and the affiliated companies that use those products.
Sandbakken said that most of Ukraine’s sunflower oil flows into the European Union and countries such as India and China, but he noted that anytime the volume of global oil decreases anywhere in the world, an alternative supply is needed.
“It’s something that’s going to affect the vegetable oil market all over the world,” he told theWashington Examinerafter the outset of the war. “You’re displacing that much oil from the market that people need, so it’s something that will affect all oils … eventually, it will affect everybody in the world to some extent.”
For example, if a French oil buyer can no longer access its usual orders of oil from Ukraine, the buyer will turn to a different supplier, perhaps one in the U.S. That shift in sourcing has had a ripple effect that is driving the higher prices and oil shortages across the globe.
“Everybody is going to be competing to get that oil,” Sandbakken said. “Whether that be palm oil, soy oil, canola, or sun, or whatever type of oil it is, everyone will be competing for vegetable oil.”
Brian Marks, executive director of the University of New Haven's Entrepreneurship and Innovation Program, said that the COVID-19 pandemic drove home just how interconnected the world is.
When the pandemic frayed supply chains and people were left waiting for shipments for weeks, it was proof of just how globalized the world economy has become. He said that the war in Ukraine and how it affects products as diverse as vegetable oil further drives home that point.
“This Ukrainian crisis, the Russian invasion, has further put a stamp on showing how interconnected we are from an economic standpoint,” Marks told theWashington Examiner. “If we didn’t learn it once, or if we needed reinforcement, this crisis is certainly demonstrating it, and it is having a cascading effect throughout the economy.”
The massive price increases for vegetable oils are further fanning the flames of theinflationary fire. Consumer pricesincreased 7.9%for the 12 months ending in February, the fastest pace in decades, and food prices have risen in tandem. Because oil is an input for so many foods, food prices will inevitably be pushed higher by Ukraine’s absent sunflower oil production.
The effects on oil prices are being felt 5,000 miles away, in the nation’s capital.
Salvador Khadra is the director of operations for Pizza Boli’s, a Maryland-based franchise with locations in several mid-Atlantic states. He said that the price increases for cooking oils have affected the company’s sauces, dressings, dough, and more.
Khadra told theWashington Examinerthat he doesn’t expect oil prices to tamp back down soon and predicted that it could get even more costly over the coming months.
Nor is production likely to ramp up outside Ukraine fast enough to make up for the shortfalls.
Marks said that there might be some hesitancy to overload production of other oils given that there is no clear sign of when the war could come to a close. If it were to end soon, investing in supercharged production could fall flat.
As a historical example, he pointed out that during the U.S. Civil War, cotton production in the Southern states was broadly hampered. In response, there was a huge push to expand production in Egypt.
The Egyptian government borrowed money to expand that production, and at the end of the Civil War, U.S. production came back online and drove cotton prices down, and the Egyptian government couldn’t meet that debt service, Marks said.
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“I think given the lessons learned, businesses will be hesitant to go all-in and expand production. So, we’ll see a slow movement because, as anything, if the exogenous shock such as the war ends, one would expect to the extent possible that production to come back online rather rapidly,” Marks said.



The prices of cooking oils haven't risen, here, yet.

But the buying seems to be really escalating. I visited the local WalMart a week ago, luckily catching the day the shelves were fully stocked. Yesterday, they were nearly empty. I estimated that those shelves hold about about 300 48 fl oz bottles each of corn, vegetable, and canola oil, 900 bottles total. The gallon containers too, were almost gone. 2 years ago, you had to wipe the slight dust film off of the gallons.

The far more expensive olive oil appears to sell at the same rate that it always has.

In the flour aisle, there is now only a 1-bag wide shelf space available for GV unbleached 5 pound bags ($1.56 each). That would hold about 8 bags if the shelf space were filled. Gold Medal and King Arthur are crowding it out. GM & KA also now have their own end of aisle "on sale" displays. Those sales prices are 2X to 3X the price of the GV brand. Conditioning the herd for what looks like coming price increases?

I have not monitored the bleached flour, as I don't use it. I also wonder if bleached flower costs more to process, and down the road if it would be eliminated because of that. I do know that it is far preferred by most shoppers.
 

onmyown30

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This isn't something everyone would shop for, but today one of my wholesalers are having a "sale" ALLLLLL of my supplies went up by 20% or better. Right now, I have enough to get through about 6 months before having to restock. If prices don't come down before then I will have to raise prices. I do not think my customers will spend an extra 20% on items.
 

bracketquant

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This isn't something everyone would shop for, but today one of my wholesalers are having a "sale" ALLLLLL of my supplies went up by 20% or better. Right now, I have enough to get through about 6 months before having to restock. If prices don't come down before then I will have to raise prices. I do not think my customers will spend an extra 20% on items.
You're right that it isn't something everyone would shop for, when the potential shopper doesn't know what you're selling.
 

Zahra

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Eggs just nearly doubled at Albertsons in Boise. FYI when they have a broken egg in a carton they no longer toss the whole carton, but repackage the good ones into cartons marked "Grade B". The brown ones in those cartons are organic free range and the white are the regular ones. Until this past weekend they were selling those cartons for .79 each and I've been freeze drying them like crazy. This weekend they went up to $1.49 a dozen which is still a great price (especially for the organic free range ones). So if you see cartons with some white & some brown that's what your stores might be doing as well and check the price because you could save a substantial amount buying those rather than the "Grade A".
 

bracketquant

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Eggs just nearly doubled at Albertsons in Boise. FYI when they have a broken egg in a carton they no longer toss the whole carton, but repackage the good ones into cartons marked "Grade B". The brown ones in those cartons are organic free range and the white are the regular ones. Until this past weekend they were selling those cartons for .79 each and I've been freeze drying them like crazy. This weekend they went up to $1.49 a dozen which is still a great price (especially for the organic free range ones). So if you see cartons with some white & some brown that's what your stores might be doing as well and check the price because you could save a substantial amount buying those rather than the "Grade A".
The brown ones are "labeled" organic free range. That's all I have to say.
 

SouthernBreeze

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I usually have to go through several cartons of eggs at our Walmart, before finding a carton that doesn't have at least one broke one in it. I've stopped doing that. If I pick up a carton with a broke one in it, I simply replace with a good one from another carton. I definitely do not want to spend the money on a carton of broken eggs. The store manager doesn't like me going through the cartons replacing the broken eggs, but I don't care.
 

bracketquant

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I usually have to go through several cartons of eggs at our Walmart, before finding a carton that doesn't have at least one broke one in it. I've stopped doing that. If I pick up a carton with a broke one in it, I simply replace with a good one from another carton. I definitely do not want to spend the money on a carton of broken eggs. The store manager doesn't like me going through the cartons replacing the broken eggs, but I don't care.
You actually have a store manager who shows his face out on the floor?
 

nehimama

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The smaller Kroger in this med-size SE MI city had their spiral-sliced hams for .87/lb, and ground sirloin for $3.99/lb. Pasta was well-stocked, but getting pricey. Cooking oil well stocked and pricey. Plenty of flour, and the King Arthur was less expensive than the Kroger brand. Eggs were well-represented, if pricey. Challenge butter was $2.77/lb. The smaller cans of Keystone meats (14.4 oz) were priced at $5.99 - used to be $4.59.
 
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Walrus

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I just got word that one of the nation's largest livestock trucking companies - LW Miller of Logan, Utah - shut down its livestock hauling operation today. Here's a couple of confirming reports:

Utah trucking company shutters livestock division after 37 years

A Logan, Utah-based trucking company, L.W. Miller Cos., notified customers and drivers earlier this week that it will shut down its livestock hauling division on Monday. Its other four divisions will continue to operate.

According to a letter sent to customers and obtained by FreightWaves, Rex Miller, CEO of L.W. Miller Cos., called “the driver shortage, rising costs, extremely tight margins and freight rates” the perfect storm that forced the company to shutter one of the largest livestock hauling operations in the U.S.

“After 37 years in business, the business of transporting animals is no longer sustainable for the L.W. Miller organization,” Miller wrote. “This decision is certainly NOT a reflection of the current management team of the Livestock Division.”

Paul Barnard, human resources manager at L.W. Miller, declined FreightWaves’ request to comment on how many livestock haulers, including company drivers and owner-operators, would be affected by the decision.

“After consulting with senior management, we feel that between the letter we sent to our customers and the personal communications that we have had with our drivers, we really have nothing more to say about the closure of the livestock division,” Barnard told FreightWaves.

Family-owned L.W. Transportation has around 87 drivers and 85 power units, according to the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration’s SAFER website.

Over the past few months, the livestock division had been ramping up efforts to recruit both company drivers and owner-operators but its efforts ultimately failed.

The company’s dry bulk/pneumatic, liquid tanker, refrigerated and petroleum divisions will continue to operate, Miller said.

“The rest of L.W. Miller Companies continues to thrive and succeed and we are excited and encouraged by the results we are seeing from the other divisions,” Miller wrote. “We are grateful to our livestock customers who helped us to have success in a very tough business environment.”

Larry Miller, who founded L.W. Miller Transportation Inc. in 1982, died in December 2020.


Sage News Video Report (windy host but on top of the story):

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arlsg7RlOhg
 

psychgirl

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The smaller Kroger in this med-size SE MI city had their spiral-sliced hams for .87/lb, and ground sirloin for $3.99/lb. Pasta was well-stocked, but getting pricey. Cooking oil well stocked and pricey. Plenty of flour, and the King Arthur was less expensive than the Kroger brand. Eggs were well-represented, if pricey. Challenge butter was $2.77/lb. The smaller cans of Keystone meats (14.4 oz) were priced at $5.99 - used to be $4.59.
Those are great prices!
 

MtnGal

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We went to Dollar General to get new bird feeders. Ours are several years old and starting to fall apart. Prices were double from our old ones.

Our Dollar General is one of the new DG Markets with produce, meat, large freezer section and 5 or 6 15' grocery aisles. It was completely full, no empty spaces anywhere. Prices were about the same as usual except for milk, eggs and other dairy.
 
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