FOOD Report food & grocery shortages / price increases here: 2022 Edition

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Yeah but it actually ( with scraps ) is a net positive for us. Despite paying $14 per bag.

We are getting 77 eggs weekly and are using 1 bag per week. We know this as we now have a 35 gallon drum we fill with one bag per week.

Anyways, we are down to less than $ 0.20 per egg right now. So we are running less than $2.50 per dozen. Also to be fair, we do treats, so a better price is more like $ 4.00, but either way, it works and is cheaper than the store.

I never thought I would say that one....
How about the feed to raise them before laying?
 

summerthyme

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We normally drink Folgers Columbian coffee, because hubby likes it. The last can I opened two days ago tastes like crap. It hardly resembles coffee. Even hubby noticed it is off (and obviously his coffee taste buds are iffy).

I can't find the receipt, but I am going to call them. The can says good until some time in 2024. I'm not drinking it, bleah.

Oh, and it was $5.99 for the smallest can.
Let us know what the response is...and if you get a replacement, if it's any better!

Summerthyme
 

moldy

Veteran Member
Safeway was so depressing Monday. Lots of space on the shelves, stressed out shoppers, high prices, and missing a lot of what I was looking for.

Perhaps it's just holidays and the storm coming in, or lack of deliveries from the last storm. So glad I have my pantry!
 

vector7

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But wait, there's more...

Fed's New Inflation Index Shows Rent Slowing Sharply, Setting Stage For Fed Pivot​

TUESDAY, DEC 20, 2022 - 12:22 PM

There are two things that need to happen for the Fed to stop hiking and pivot (or just one if the Fed were to raise its inflation target, which will happen but not for several years as Powell himself admitted last week): first, the labor market has to turn decidedly weaker with both the pace of monthly payrolls increase and hourly earnings having to come down drastically; and second, inflation has to drop sharply on a Y/Y basis and has to at worst flatten sequentially.

Regarding the first, we are almost there. Recall that as we first reported last week, the Philly Fed had effectively revised what was according to the BLS a gain of 1.1 million jobs to just 10,500 jobs, meaning that the Fed was looking at erroneously overstated, arguably politicized data, as it unleashed its burst of 75bps rate hikes in June... which happened just as June jobs number turned negative.



A few days after our report, politicians also jumped on the bandwagon with Florida Senator Rick Scott writing a letter to BLS Commissioner William Beach, noting that Biden has used data from his agency to support his agenda and policies.

"For the better part of his presidency, while the American economy has struggled and record inflation has brought historic pain to families and small businesses across the country, President Joe Biden has consistently bragged about job growth", Scott wrote adding that "now, thanks to the good work of analysts at the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, we know that the BLS inaccurately reported the creation more than one million jobs, and that much of what President Biden has claimed credit for as the economic achievements for his administration is a lie."

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Today even Bloomberg, which is traditionally pro-Biden, admitted that the Fed "may be watching bad jobs data"...



... assuring it is now just a matter of time before the BLS is forced to admit its data was "wrong" (let's avoid calling it "rigged" and "manipulated" for now) and sparking a dramatic reappraisal of what the true state of the economy was when the Fed was busy hiking up a storm.

Fine, jobs may be about to crack but what about inflation: isn't that still red hot and giving the Fed enough cover to keep policy tight for months to come.

Well, no.

Recall that back in October we explained that when it comes to measuring inflation, the Fed is looking at inaccurate and stale data, the result of Shelter Inflation and Owner Equivalent Rent - the biggest chunk of the CPI basket - being about 9-12 months behind the curve when it comes to what is really taking place in the housing market.

Indeed, as we said in "Why Te CPI Is Making The Same Huge Mistake Now It Did One Year Ago", the time to panic about soaring rent was one year ago - as we did back in September 2021 - but not the Fed which was busy spreading the fake propaganda belief that inflation was transitory (it wasn't, and it's why the Fed is desperate to start a recession now to short circuit both inflation and the wage-price spiral). Since than all that happened this year is that the BLS has finally just caught up to reality 6-9 months ago, when rents and home prices were indeed soaring... meanwhile, real life rents are now dropping sharply across the country as the US slides into recession.

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We also said that all else equal, "the Fed will realize it has overtightened into a housing market that has peaked some time in the summer of 2023. By then, however, the economy will be in freefall and the central bank will be planning its next massive stimulus because just as we said in January, nothing really ever changes."

Which brings us to today's topic: while on one hand the Philly Fed provided Jerome Powell and the BLS with the loophole they need to admit that the jobs market was far weaker 'than expected' (because heaven forbid it was meant to paint a false picture of economic strength ahead of the midterms), it is the Cleveland Fed that this week provided a "rationalization" to the persistently high inflation print.

Watching Tucker Carlson and we find that the BLS fudged jobs numbers for the last quarter by 1 million jobs. Many voters in November likely made decisions based on disinformation about the economy. In other words, the administration lied. Where were the reporters &"fact checkers?"

The (DNC) "fact checkers" were at Facebook (Big Tech and MSM)

DNC...add a zero to that number. No the elections are coming in a couple of months - add two zeros.
View: https://twitter.com/WandaOlinger2/status/1605483428878565377?s=20&t=04oFpd0AgrBfCgGgY7y_Yg

Tucker Carlson: This is a lie (6min)
Dec 20, 2022
View: https://youtu.be/PwmvCR5I6HA

The BLS= Gov’t LIED to the American people about the Jobs number. Is there no shame? There must be a penalty for getting this number wrong by 1Million New Jobs! New law, new penalty & someone should lose their job, NOW!
@TuckerCarlson @VivekGRamaswamy @HouseGOP @GOPLeader @RepAndyBiggsAZ

The people who we elect to run the government don’t actually run the government. It’s the oldest trick in the bureaucrat’s playbook: you get to make the rules if I get to fill in the numbers.

If this is the DNC Standards for Leadership, Nixon should have never been forced out of office. Their handling of Trump shows their true level of corrupt hypocrisy, accusing others of what they're truly guilty of.
RT 1min
View: https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1605396015871410182?s=20&t=04oFpd0AgrBfCgGgY7y_Yg
 

SAPPHIRE

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I buy Safeway Signature Colombian and Italian Roast when on sale......boy, the packages are smaller each time...but I bought some O Columbian organic and limit was 4...it did not taste right...the Columbian flavor was "off"....still have it but on the "back burner"............
 

hd5574

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I save up all year to do a big shopping run at Giant Food in Central Virginia at Thanksgiving and Christmas..

most everything I got was on sale..
at the regular price I bought about $350..of groceries but only paid $183.. including the tax..I saved $170.00....They had so much on sale..rib roast, New York strip roast (will cut into steaks) ham, smoked sausage, breakfast sausage patties, land of lakes butter, Philadelphia cream cheese, ball park franks, Del Monte canned veggies, buy one Thomas English Muffins... get 2 free, oranges, asparagus, baking potatoes...most all was half off... this sale ends on Thursday...their new sales start on Fridays...also got enough points for $1.10 off 20 gallons of gas...

some of the items require coupons from the add...it not a problem as they have a rack with the ads near the customer service in the front of the store...
Yippee...the freezer is jam packed again
 

20Gauge

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How about the feed to raise them before laying?
5 months feed is not that much over 3-5 years of productivity. It works out fine.

What killed me was the construction cost of the coop and run. That was some big bucks. I have a thread on it.

As far as past costs, consider them sunk costs and not that they are done ( paid for ) we are reaping the benefits from lower cost eggs of higher quality.
 
5 months feed is not that much over 3-5 years of productivity. It works out fine.

What killed me was the construction cost of the coop and run. That was some big bucks. I have a thread on it.

As far as past costs, consider them sunk costs and not that they are done ( paid for ) we are reaping the benefits from lower cost eggs of higher quality.
I considered getting into the business, running numbers for up to 500 hens. Didn’t do it. I do have small hen house build a few decades ago. Had 20+ hens, great for a while. They eventually all died. Don’t know if I’ll try again.
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
5 months feed is not that much over 3-5 years of productivity. It works out fine.

What killed me was the construction cost of the coop and run. That was some big bucks. I have a thread on it.

As far as past costs, consider them sunk costs and not that they are done ( paid for ) we are reaping the benefits from lower cost eggs of higher quality.
3 to 5 years productivity?

well, maybe. Sort of.

You get lots of eggs in their first year of laying.

In the second year, you get fewer eggs, but they tend to be bigger than the first year’s eggs.

In the third year, productivity drops off considerablyl. By the fourth year, they begin to lay very sporatically. Not very many eggs at all.

By year 5, they are laying very, very few eggs. Almost no eggs. And the egg quality drops significantly as well.

Professional egg farmers cull or sell their hens after 2 years, because after that, it costs more to feed them, than you get back in eggs.
 

20Gauge

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I considered getting into the business, running numbers for up to 500 hens. Didn’t do it. I do have small hen house build a few decades ago. Had 20+ hens, great for a while. They eventually all died. Don’t know if I’ll try again.
This is for us and not to sell. We are just happy to be on the good side of things
 

20Gauge

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3 to 5 years productivity?

well, maybe. Sort of.

You get lots of eggs in their first year of laying.

In the second year, you get fewer eggs, but they tend to be bigger than the first year’s eggs.

In the third year, productivity drops off considerablyl. By the fourth year, they begin to lay very sporatically. Not very many eggs at all.

By year 5, they are laying very, very few eggs. Almost no eggs. And the egg quality drops significantly as well.

Professional egg farmers cull or sell their hens after 2 years, because after that, it costs more to feed them, than you get back in eggs.
Yet we are not professionals.
 

summerthyme

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3 to 5 years productivity?

well, maybe. Sort of.

You get lots of eggs in their first year of laying.

In the second year, you get fewer eggs, but they tend to be bigger than the first year’s eggs.

In the third year, productivity drops off considerablyl. By the fourth year, they begin to lay very sporatically. Not very many eggs at all.

By year 5, they are laying very, very few eggs. Almost no eggs. And the egg quality drops significantly as well.

Professional egg farmers cull or sell their hens after 2 years, because after that, it costs more to feed them, than you get back in eggs.
Yep. But it's still worth it! You turn the older hens into stew and soup... they make some of the best, richest broth you'll ever make.

Keep a rooster, and you can perpetuate your own flock for at least 3 generations. After that, you'll need to introduce new blood, as chickens are very susceptible to inbreeding issues. It's possible (if necessary, as in a SHTF scenario where outcross stock simply can't be obtained) to extend the number of generations you can get from your own birds by either identifying different lines within the flock (easiest if you have two different breeds) or by separating them into two flocks and keeping a rooster from alternating groups every other year..

Several years ago, I got into my third generation of Americana chickens. The inbreeding caused an amazing concentration of the original Aracauna genes. I had several birds with jet black, dark blue or dark olive green legs. They looked more like wild birds than domesticated chickens. Their egg were a bit smaller, too, with the color all the way through the shells. It was really fascinating to see.

Summerthyme
 

summerthyme

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Yet we are not professionals.
And that's fine, but if you keep track of your costs, you'll find the cost per dozen rises dramatically as they age. Since chicken feed is no longer cheap, by year three, you can be paying as much as 8 bucks a dozen to feed them.

Summerthyme
 

Marseydoats

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5 months feed is not that much over 3-5 years of productivity. It works out fine.

What killed me was the construction cost of the coop and run. That was some big bucks. I have a thread on it.

As far as past costs, consider them sunk costs and not that they are done ( paid for ) we are reaping the benefits from lower cost eggs of higher quality.

A properly constructed coop, like yours, can easily last 50 years. Many years ago we used to sunbathe on the roof of my friend's grandmother's and it was 40 years old then.
3 to 5 years productivity?

well, maybe. Sort of.

You get lots of eggs in their first year of laying.

In the second year, you get fewer eggs, but they tend to be bigger than the first year’s eggs.

In the third year, productivity drops off considerablyl. By the fourth year, they begin to lay very sporatically. Not very many eggs at all.

By year 5, they are laying very, very few eggs. Almost no eggs. And the egg quality drops significantly as well.

Professional egg farmers cull or sell their hens after 2 years, because after that, it costs more to feed them, than you get back in eggs.

I had two Cinnamon Queens who laid 3 -4 eggs a week until they were 10 years old (they were pets) One of them lived to be 12 and she still laid one egg a week until she was about 11 1/2. They were great birds and I wish I still had them.
 

bracketquant

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The glut of potatoes continues at the local, western Massachusetts, Walmart.

Two more pallets came in, totaling 9 in the past 4 days. In the summer, they likely get about 2 pallets a month.They're selling about a pallet a day, and I can see why. $2.50 for 10 pound bags, and 85 cents for 5 pound bags. I think I'll take a chance and put several in the basement, to test the storage ability.
 

Bones

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Fun trip to Aldi today!

They are advertising spiral cut, bone in hams at .85lb, no limit.

We went in today, and per their policy when the sale priced item sells out, they move to the next hight priced item and till sell it at the sale price.

By the time we got there, all hams cheaper than $2.99lb were sold out, so we got our 4 hams, normally $3.49lb for .85. We were pretty happy with that.

We did get our traditional almond kringle, some sweet Bavarian mustard, and some of my kryptonite which are German chocolate with almond candy bars.

*weight loss program begins after New Year's Day for me, but I'm not committing to what year lol

Everything we were shopping for was available and well stocked, as far as we could tell.
 

Red Baron

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Fun trip to Aldi today!

They are advertising spiral cut, bone in hams at .85lb, no limit.

We went in today, and per their policy when the sale priced item sells out, they move to the next hight priced item and till sell it at the sale price.

By the time we got there, all hams cheaper than $2.99lb were sold out, so we got our 4 hams, normally $3.49lb for .85. We were pretty happy with that.

We did get our traditional almond kringle, some sweet Bavarian mustard, and some of my kryptonite which are German chocolate with almond candy bars.

*weight loss program begins after New Year's Day for me, but I'm not committing to what year lol

Everything we were shopping for was available and well stocked, as far as we could tell.
@Bones - The store location?
 

Aly

Senior Member
I just checked our new Aldi ad, starts tomorrow. Same ham, Appleton Farms, spiral sliced half-ham, is on sale for $1.99/lb.....northwest FL between Pensacola and Panama City.. I'm gonna check it out tomorrow anyway, just in case the ad is wrong! (hope, hope....)

Aly

We did, indeed, go to Aldi today. The sign on the cooler said .85/lb, discount taken at register. We were thrilled, and left with 2 approx. 12 lb Appleton Farms, spiral sliced hams! Happy dance! Would have bought more, but all freezers are full...

Aly
 

Nich1

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Yes...the Aldi in Piedmont, NC also had the hams marked down to $0.85/lb and there were tons of them...well, maybe not tons but lots of them.

I find it odd that the forecast at Thanksgiving was for fewer turkeys and to expect higher prices. Yet, turkeys were $0.28/lb and now hams are cheap. What am I missing? Most meats are much higher, even baloney.
 

WalknTrot

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Yes...the Aldi in Piedmont, NC also had the hams marked down to $0.85/lb and there were tons of them...well, maybe not tons but lots of them.

I find it odd that the forecast at Thanksgiving was for fewer turkeys and to expect higher prices. Yet, turkeys were $0.28/lb and now hams are cheap. What am I missing? Most meats are much higher, even baloney.
I think demand is down. A lot of folks are making substitutions or down-scaling the holidays this year. Fear-mongering in the press is a big factor.

For people who keep in touch with the real ag news, turkey production was down some from bird flu, but not awful, pork has been reasonable all year. Eggs are a problem - this is a bad time of the year for eggs anyway, but bird flu has made an impact along with high feed prices and labor shortages.
 

Red Baron

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Yes...the Aldi in Piedmont, NC also had the hams marked down to $0.85/lb and there were tons of them...well, maybe not tons but lots of them.

I find it odd that the forecast at Thanksgiving was for fewer turkeys and to expect higher prices. Yet, turkeys were $0.28/lb and now hams are cheap. What am I missing? Most meats are much higher, even baloney.

Flood retailers would have us believe the fiction that they only have a 3% - 5% margin.
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
i went to WalMart early this morning, cuz the storm will hit later tday.

The stock clerks were busy shelving product.

There was no lettuce in the bin, but I asked the stock clerk and she went in back and brought out an entire case of romaine lettuce. Nice looking lettuce.

No noticible shortages, but Oh, the prices!


suburban Memphis
 

20Gauge

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Just tried to get some cat food on line. No go.

We have 4 cats and the brand we use is a compromise between all of them so we don't have 15 different mfgs to buy from.

Used to get it locally, but almost all cat food ( wet ) is sold out.

Went to on line, now the 30 packs are gone.... so went to 24 packs..... they are now gone. No delivery date known.

Now we are on to the individual cans. Of the 3 varieties we buy, 2 will take 10 days now ( used to be 3 ) and the 3rd is 30 days out.

I still see things getting tighter.....
 

anna43

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Not food, but RX. I've paid my deductible for 2022 so I ordered a new inhaler which cost me $32. If I'd waited until after Jan. 1 it would have been over $100 out-of-pocket. I don't need the inhaler right now, but they have a 12-month outdate and my doctor told me they were good for at least six months to a year beyond the outdate.

I wanted to take advantage of the Aldi sale on ham but the weather is awful here plus my car won't start. Even if the car would start, I'm not going out in a blizzard with -15º and windchills at -39º. So, I'm staying home and giving thanks for my warm house and preps realizing what blessings I have.
 

tiredude

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Not food, but RX. I've paid my deductible for 2022 so I ordered a new inhaler which cost me $32. If I'd waited until after Jan. 1 it would have been over $100 out-of-pocket. I don't need the inhaler right now, but they have a 12-month outdate and my doctor told me they were good for at least six months to a year beyond the outdate.

I wanted to take advantage of the Aldi sale on ham but the weather is awful here plus my car won't start. Even if the car would start, I'm not going out in a blizzard with -15º and windchills at -39º. So, I'm staying home and giving thanks for my warm house and preps realizing what blessings I have.
wise call Anna.... i don the same thing every Dec. because my company keeps changing our insurance year over year..... and you can run out before they sign the docs......if you can get a 3 months supply in dec. do it.
 

tiredude

Veteran Member
You are going to see ANYTHING that is touched multiple time and processed increase in price on so many levels.....too many input costs ......it all adds up bigly. Anything processed is a perfect example.....even chocolate.

Merry Christmas everyone. God Bless.
 

Loretta Van Riet

Trying to hang out with the cool kids.
Not food, but RX. I've paid my deductible for 2022 so I ordered a new inhaler which cost me $32. If I'd waited until after Jan. 1 it would have been over $100 out-of-pocket. I don't need the inhaler right now, but they have a 12-month outdate and my doctor told me they were good for at least six months to a year beyond the outdate.

I wanted to take advantage of the Aldi sale on ham but the weather is awful here plus my car won't start. Even if the car would start, I'm not going out in a blizzard with -15º and windchills at -39º. So, I'm staying home and giving thanks for my warm house and preps realizing what blessings I have.
Be aware that AlldayChemist.com has reasonable prices for inhalers.

I order for a friend . $9.88 for albuterol (Proventil).
and $14.88 for her expensive one if she orders the 6 pack. (forticort?)
 
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