FOOD Report food & grocery shortages / price increases here: 2022 Edition

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helen

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Maybe some thread drift here

Firewood prices have really increased in the south central Missouri Ozarks the past couple of years. Two years ago, you could pick up well-seasoned, split firewood at < $125 a cord.

Now, it's $225 - $250 a cord depending on how close to Springfield someone is. Out where I'm at, it's still $225 and that's not delivered and stacked, either.
A tornado hit a couple of years ago. I lost at least 40 big trees. Several people declined my offer of free wood if they would cut it up themselves. This year one of those people casually asked if I had any trees down. He asked if he could cut some. I said yes. Then he said his friends would come with him. I realized they are going to sell it. To hell with them. The tornado is why I learned chainsaw. I didn't know how to cut when I asked for help, but I cut fine now. I'm not letting them have it. There are many elders who need it, and I'll give it to them. I think I'll have wood thieves this winter.
 

psychgirl

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Whole Foods is VERY expensive! They sure have a lot of nice things but I could never afford to shop there on a regular basis.

There’s a reason for their nickname “Whole Paychecks”
Mostly organic, all natural jazzy stuff. I love their oils and herbal treatments, but mostly their astounding selection of brands and foodie things you’ll never find at a “regular” grocery store.
 

SouthernBreeze

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Whole Foods is VERY expensive! They sure have a lot of nice things but I could never afford to shop there on a regular basis.

There’s a reason for their nickname “Whole Paychecks”
Mostly organic, all natural jazzy stuff. I love their oils and herbal treatments, but mostly their astounding selection of brands and foodie things you’ll never find at a “regular” grocery store.

We have a Whole Foods family nutrition store in town. I went inside one day thinking it was a Whole Foods grocery store. Nope, it was only for vitamins and herbals. They had a cooler in the back of the store for a very small selection of food items.
 

psychgirl

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No, nothing like that, here. I'm sure I couldn't afford to shop there if we did.
It’s ok for snooping around in or for the occasional splurge items. I used to go in quite regularly just to look for any sales or for oils like patchouli, bergamot, etc …fun things to try.
At Christmas time I’ve bought fancy little cakes or pastries but not recently
 

SouthernBreeze

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It’s ok for snooping around in or for the occasional splurge items. I used to go in quite regularly just to look for any sales or for oils like patchouli, bergamot, etc …fun things to try.
At Christmas time I’ve bought fancy little cakes or pastries but not recently
I've been using an all natural health and beauty supply shop in town for years. It's privately owned, and the husband and wife team are very knowledgeable about their products. It's where I buy all my essential oils, herbal supplements, and beauty products (soaps, lotions, make-up, etc.). All natural. They also have a section in the store for all natural organic foods. Probably much cheaper than Whole Foods.
 
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phloydius

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Their grocery stores are huge.

Interesting. There are 3 Whole Foods near enough to me that I have been in all 3. There was a single specific product I used to buy from them for dietary issues that I could not get other places. I always thought they were quite small, at least compared to most grocery stores in Texas (specifically HEB). I always find it interesting how things differ from region to region.
 

bracketquant

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The Whole Foods store near me is small, perhaps 1/8 the size of a large supermarket. I only go there once a year, specifically for heirloom apples and pears. The cost is comparable to the only other fairly local store, that I've found, selling a large selection of heirloom apples and pears. I'll also look around, and maybe buy a couple of other exotic things.
 

nomifyle

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For several years I shopped almost exclusively at Whole Foods. That is it was Whole Foods Co., a local New Orleans store. Yes, they were higher, but I happen to like some of the quirky (to many people anyway) foods. I was a food purist, in other words, I read every label and had a clue what I was buying. They had the most delicious natural lemon yogurt, that my oldest son and I loved. There is one about 70 miles from me and I did go in there once a few years back. I've relaxed my food standards a good bit but there are still many things I consider unhealthy that I won't touch. I made everything from scratch, as in I used healthy ingredients and not mixes. My sons were/are always very healthy as I have been and also my ex. I changed my DH's diet as much as I could and his health is good.

I think that Whole Foods, owned now by Amazon, has also relaxed their standards.
 

briches

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Central VA - Just got back from a grocery run. Prices continue to rise ….

a store brand can of black olives $1.79 / cheapest pasta sauce (store brand was $1.39 - last year I could get on sale for fifty cents with regular price of 79 cents). Potatoes were 99 cents a pound. Gala apples were 4.99 for a three pound bag. Bananas 55 cents a pound. Butter on sale at $4.99 a pound. Celery hearts $1.79.

I did get one good deal - pork butt on sale for 99 cents a pound. I think we already have at least one in the freezer, but that’s okay.

It is all alarming for sure. I am definitely working on more meal planning to utilize my pantry and sales.
 

Lei

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I paid $9 for a Turkey sausage. It was one of those long U shaped sausages.
I sliced it up into round and put it in 3 freezer bags. I like to use it on pizza instead of pepperoni.
I remember buying 2 of them for $5 about a year ago.
 

WalknTrot

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N MN. Set up a small Walmart pickup for this afternoon - mostly just some fresh produce, replacement canned goods and a few cans of wet dog food that I use to make cheap freezie treats. Only subs were one brand of hot dog buns for another and a different flavor dog food. Otherwise, no problem. Feed store...price of 16% layer mash is up another buck to $17.99.

Availability of produce, eggs, chicken, dairy and bread products doesn't seem to be much of a problem here, but prices are going up every week, just like the rest of the country. Noticing that on sale, flour, sugar and potatoes are up to 50 cents/lb if you are lucky, but even that madness won't last long.

So glad the fall is winding down, I'm done with my volunteer gig, 2x/week PT for the shoulder and other running stuff. Looking forward to staying home, cooking real food, baking bread and hunkering down by the fire for the winter.

Haha...adding: Talked to the guy who does the driveway in the winter to make sure I'm on the list again. He sheepishly mentioned he'd have to raise the regular price for plowing this place from $60.00/event to $65.00 because of the price of gas. What a gem this guy is. He plows the 700 foot driveway, then down past the pole building to the barnyard and creates a huge parking lot down there that you could circle turn a 6 horse trailer around in. Needless to say I told him NO problem. But just a mention that all of these type services are going up too.
 
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summerthyme

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N MN. Set up a small Walmart pickup for this afternoon - mostly just some fresh produce, replacement canned goods and a few cans of wet dog food that I use to make cheap freezie treats. Only subs were one brand of hot dog buns for another and a different flavor dog food. Otherwise, no problem. Feed store...price of 16% layer mash is up another buck to $17.99.

Availability of produce, eggs, chicken, dairy and bread products doesn't seem to be much of a problem here, but prices are going up every week, just like the rest of the country. Noticing that on sale, flour, sugar and potatoes are up to 50 cents/lb if you are lucky, but even that madness won't last long.

So glad the fall is winding down, I'm done with my volunteer gig, 2x/week PT for the shoulder and other running stuff. Looking forward to staying home, cooking real food, baking bread and hunkering down by the fire for the winter.
If you have access to someone who butchers or hunts (and doesn't especially like liver), you can make long lasting, shelf stable dog treats that are like crack to them, easily.

I slice up livers (pork, beef, venison) into approximately 1/2" slices. I dredge them in olive oil mixed with turmeric (because I've got 2 older dogs now, I've switched to the 95% curcumin powder I get from Amazon... meds and treat in one!), then run them in the dehydrator until they are crisp. They are simple and non messy to carry, and don't spoil at room temp... perfect training treats.

Summerthyme
 

WalknTrot

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If you have access to someone who butchers or hunts (and doesn't especially like liver), you can make long lasting, shelf stable dog treats that are like crack to them, easily.

I slice up livers (pork, beef, venison) into approximately 1/2" slices. I dredge them in olive oil mixed with turmeric (because I've got 2 older dogs now, I've switched to the 95% curcumin powder I get from Amazon... meds and treat in one!), then run them in the dehydrator until they are crisp. They are simple and non messy to carry, and don't spoil at room temp... perfect training treats.

Summerthyme
Sounds like a good idea to me! Will keep it in mind over deer season.

I've been doing these frozen things for the pup over the summer, and with her, I'm going for longevity (like...keep her occupied and out of my hair as long as possible, for at least a few minutes of peace!). Been saving the ring-cut femur bones that she can't chew up, filling the donut hole with either canned dog food, cottage cheese, or whatever handy goop that will stick, and freezing them. She loves them, and they take a long(er) time to eat. Renewable, cooling in hot weather, also a help during the teething nightmare months. :lol:
 

China Connection

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People Will Be Insane When Food Prices Double Or Triple In The Dark Winter Ahead​


about 15 minutes long

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXEAIgY8_bs




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Americans are going to get furious when they hear this. After a year of paying the highest food prices in nearly four decades, industry insiders are warning that your grocery bill is set to shoot up even higher this winter – and the coming round of increases is going to be extremely painful! Fifty, sixty, and even seventy percent price hikes are no longer a threat but a reality millions of households in the United States are already facing. At this point, more than one in five American families is reporting food insecurity due to the skyrocketing costs, according to the results of a survey released yesterday by the Urban Institute.

Our domestic food production took a massive hit this year, and farmers are fuming with the situation, saying that things are definitely “not going to be okay”. Meanwhile, supermarket CEOs and restaurant chains are telling the public to buy and stock up on supplies while they still can because conditions are only going to get more complicated from here on. In other words



it’s time to get ready for a cold dark winter while our hard-working population gets increasingly fed up with the oppressive cost of living, and the abusive surge in food inflation may send some people over the edge. Winter is coming, and so is another price shock at grocery stores. Tens of millions of Americans are already struggling with empty shelves and inflated prices, and according to ReadyWise, an emergency food supply company, U.S. consumers shouldn’t ignore food shortage warnings because these alarming trends are expected to continue and worsen in 2023. What consumers are seeing when they go to the supermarket is deeply disturbing. A new report published by the New York Times revealed that shoppers are reporting 50 to 70 percent price increases at their local supermarkets.


Susan Pollack, a property manager from Marina del Rey, Calif., said that at her local Costco, a 5-pack of short ribs is almost 70% higher than a year ago, jumping from around $60 to $200 last month. I told my husband, ‘We’re never having short ribs again,’” she said. The bad news is that the next wave of price increases is expected to reflect the ripple effect of over 24 months of disruptions on our food supply chain and our domestic agricultural production. In plain English: prepare your wallets because another blow is coming.

Some of the nation’s leading food suppliers, farmers, industry insiders, supermarket CEOs, and restaurant chains are all sounding the alarm about winter price hikes. Food-maker and processor, Hormel Foods, shared an even more alarming forecast: Given that prices for corn and soybean meal for livestock feed surged more than 125% and 40%, respectively, prices at the store are going to go up accordingly this winter. If prices of grain, grain-based meals, and meat at our local supermarkets absorb even a fraction of these spikes, this means we are all in deep trouble.



“Food, at its basic level, is not discretionary,” Mark Hamrick, a senior economic analyst at Bankrate.com. “That’s the challenging aspect of the circumstances we are in. Consumers are prepared for high prices to persist in the foreseeable future, and it’s prudent for individuals to continue to be cautious with their household budgets,” he advised. “It’s belt-tightening time and has been for a while,” Hamrick said. Unfortunately, the mess has been made. The damages done to our food supply chain can’t be undone overnight, and right now, no matter what actions the government takes, life is going to get more expensive for all of us, and a lot more difficult for millions of low-income families out there. For more info, find us on: https://www.epiceconomist.com/
 

Matt

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The entitlement of the American people is off the charts.... no way "common sense" comes into play without massive die offs... those people that feel safe getting into a strangers face and starting a fight.... like the army of leftists affluent "karens" aren't going to just starve quietly. They aren't going to reform their evil world view... they will double down and demand the government DO SOMETHING!!!!
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
In my opinion, the people have already gone COMPLETELY INSANE!!!

Not hardly. There's a LOT of room on the crazy train yet. When you've got all your guns out--at least, those you managed to fish off the floor of the nearest body of water you lost them in in that tragic hunting accident--and you're keeping half an ear open at all times for the panicky hordes to somehow make it to where you are, and you're genuinely frightened by this concept, THEN the people have gone "completely insane."
 

raven

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I visited ZeroHedge this morning and this was their banner advertisement.
Notice anything?
(BTW, these ads were not the result of any search I made on google)
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WTF? A 4 pound chub of meatless ham?
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Four chubs per case. Four pounds per chub. Four times four equals sixteen.
Sixteen pounds for $127 dollars.
Hold on. 127 divided by 16 is . . . WTF??
Do the math . . . $7.94 per pound??
Why would I pay $8/pound for meatless meat when I can buy Ham made from pig for half that?
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The crazy train has left the station.
 

jed turtle

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Many, if not most, of us do things trying to satisfy our parents, keep up with the Joneses, fall in love, fall prey to temptations, are hungry, homeless, need an income and take the first job offer that comes along, etc.

Sometimes, or if fortunate, eventually, we figure out that there has to be a better way to live and try to figure that out on our own. The blessed ones seek the Kingdom of God first, and then “all these things“ are eventually provided because of one’s faith and persistence.

trying to do anything out of one’s own strength and desire is always going to fall short. Because....insanity.
 

Samuel Adams

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The blessed ones seek the Kingdom of God first, and then “all these things“ are eventually provided because of one’s faith and persistence.

The rest of your post offers some support, but the above says it all, and my life has borne this out, to amazing degree.

Am I failing Father in being amazed that His principles truly do bear the prescribed fruit ?

I think so.
 

raven

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If meatless ham is currently selling for $8/pound,

you should expect that they plan on increasing the price of real ham to $8/pound in order to be competitive.

Because that is how communists compete in the market.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
The rest of your post offers some support, but the above says it all, and my life has borne this out, to amazing degree.

Am I failing Father in being amazed that His principles truly do bear the prescribed fruit ?

I think so.
I don’t think so. Amazement at an endless arrival of just-in-time miracles is an emotional phenomenon that inspires our worship of our all-sufficient God. We were created to worship Him.
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I can go there…..


But, my interpretation of “worship” involves “bowing down to”, “serving” which is what gives the Commandment such effect when the word “gods” is translated from “judges’ magistrates and rulers”.

The awe factor….I believe, is separate.

There should almost be an expectancy…..a “growing accustomed” to the effect of provision/protection.

All one need do in maintaining the awe factor is wander deep into the wilderness……and look around.
 

mudlogger

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Two weeks ago we had a stranger walk into my mudroom, (opening the outside screen and door)
looking for building supplies for grandpa's chicken house.
We knew someone had stopped, but the neighbor gets visitors, meh, but it was twilight and could have ended badly. Steve says it was demonic (he saw and spoke with her) and she was prob a tweaker scoping out our rural houses. She also went to the house across the road.

Now all doors are locked, even if we're just working outside.
 
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20Gauge

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I have taken the food situation we have experienced for the last 2 years as the end of plenty to the era of partial scarcity. All one needs to do to survive is stock up a bit and plan ahead. It may cost more, but it is survivable.

Then the inflation that was transitory hit and it quickly became more of that cousin who comes over for a visit and sleeps on the couch, but never ever really leaves.....

My mind has changed.

The wife showed me a few pictures ( I will try and post later ) of her Monday morning ( 8 am ) shopping trip to Sams and a few other places. I was shocked to say the least.

Examples:
Potatoes ( processed - fries / hash browns / etc ) the entire section is now filled with those quickie cook muffins. ALL OF IT
Chicken ( all types ) the entire section is one type... 1/4 legs.. Nothing else. Entire sections either were empty or replaced with legs
Red Meat ( all types ) all they had was hamburger. Just hamburger.
Greens ( salads etc ) the entire section was empty
Cheese ( all types ) there was less than 40% of what was normal there.

It went on.

There is really no reason for this to happen now. All of these observations were taken AFTER the morning truck had been pushed out to the shelves.

Monday is the slowest and best stocked day of the week. This is why the wife likes shopping then.
 

NCGirl

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We are lucky not to have to worry too much about prices, I used not to even really look at the prices when shopping but even I am shocked at how much stuff has gone up. I made a meatloaf last night, less than 2 pounds of hamburger and 1 pound of ground pork. Was over $18 in meat cost alone. I thought meatloaf was supposed to be a cheap dinner? How are people on a budget supposed to do it? What about the elderly on fixed incomes? It's incredibly sad
 
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