Jubilee on Earth
Veteran Member
That IS steep. Organic means nothing these days. We buy a quarter cow from a local rancher at $6 a lb plus processing fee for grass fed/grass finished. So that includes the steaks, roasts, etc.
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That IS steep. Organic means nothing these days. We buy a quarter cow from a local rancher at $6 a lb plus processing fee for grass fed/grass finished. So that includes the steaks, roasts, etc.
phloydius
Veteran Member
I know a few that have old family recipes that use pig face (very slow cooked) to make barbacoa.
annieosage
Inactive
I've had a couple times not been able to get jalapenos and then when I did they were scrawny and wrinkly
school marm
Veteran Member
My Smith's in NE NV was stocked the best I've ever seen it. (We moved here in September 2020.) They had everything, no holes anywhere except for canning lids. Several cases of canning jars, pectin, salsa and pickle mixes, plastic lids for jars, and even canning lids and bands, just no boxes of lids alone.
Barry Natchitoches
Has No Life - Lives on TB
MZKitty,
I don’t think that anybody here is disputing your point. A lot of honest, hard working people find themselves on food stamps through no fault of their own - and that was true even before the pandemic shutdown. Most of the time, these are the folks who use the program on a temporary basis, until they can recover from what ever caused them to need the program.
What I was saying, is that I do not believe high food prices will be the catalyst that triggers major social unrest in the United States.
That is an entirely different issue entirely.
A lot of good, hard working people end up on food stamps, as you have suggested MZKitty, and unfortunately skyrocketing food prices will hamper their economic recovery. Which is really unfortunate. Worse yet, skyrocketing food prices are likely to ADD even more honest, hard working folks onto food stamp rolls and into long car lines at mobile food pantries.
But these folks are NOT the ones that take to rioting in the streets anyway.
The kind that take to rioting, arson and street mayhem are the type that permanently park themselves on the rolls of every free program they can wiggle their way into. Food stamps - and all the other free programs - for these folks is not a survival mechanism to get through tough times, but a way of life that they are quite pleased with.
But right how, there are so many free food programs out there for the folks who never worked and never earned their own dollars - the ones most likely to riot - that I do not believe skyrocketing food prices will set off the social mayhem that is probably in our future, because most of the rioters don’t buy their own food anyway.
The ones who will be hurt by the rising food prices are the WORKERS. Especially those workers who are not in high wage jobs. The folks who are too busy trying to support their families and build a positive future to get involved in a riot.
As a result, I do not believe rising food prices will set off anything.
And I think TPTB know this. So they will do everything they can do to keep the flow of free food to this group. Hence the continuaction of lavish funding to this class, at the very same time that they are cancelling the ONLY food program that offered free food to the WORKING POOR who cannot afford to feed their families, but make a little too much to qualify for the food aid programs. (Specifically, Biden has ordered the cancellation of the Farmers to Families program, which provided free food boxes to all who felt need for the additional food, even the elderly and the working poor who the food stamp program refuses to help “because they make too much.”)
It won’t be food prices that set off the riots, IMHO.
It is more likely to be when the eviction moratoriums are gone.
This same group of Givmedats that hit all the free food lines are the ones most likely to have used their stimulus checks to buy big screen TVs, fancy hub caps for their cars, and booze. There won’t be money left to pay their back due rent, so when finally forced to vacate, they will trash the apartment they were living in, then go outside and trash the streets in the community that will no longer offer them rent free housing.
That is my opinion, for what it is worth.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
why is a three dollar increase woo?
Mprepared
Veteran Member
She is just being silly. She sort of meant here is some news she knows is true. I tell her or she reads things that might happen and never does, so she sees prices rising and this is real. She is exhausted from the election and Q, and Trump coming back to the White House, and she means the woo, is not woo, it is real. I guess.
They are worth it.
In 2009, the milk price was well below the cost of production. We slashed all expenses to the bone, including canceling our medical insurance. (That was one year prepping *really* paid off. Hubby asked what the minimum i needed to run the household, and I said "I can go 6 months without needing to buy anything... after that, it might take $50-100 for necessities or unexpected needs"... almost every farmer in our age group either went bankrupt or had to refinance their farms. We were fortunate to be able to get by without adding any debt)
Halloween afternoon, he had put the cows out for one more day of grazing. It was an awful day... sleeping, windy and nasty. He went out in late afternoon to let them into the barn, and the entire herd knocked him down and ran over the top of him to get out of the weather. The first I heard of it was when I thought I heard something outside the kitchen door... I opened it, looked down, and found him laying on the step saying "I broke my leg! He was covered in barnyard m7ck from his face down.
After getting him cleaned up, I evaluated the injury, and decided he'd torn the MCL. The knee seemed fairly stable, but was swollen the size of a cantaloupe, and he couldn't walk on it.
Once I realized it wasn't an emergency, I got him icing it in the recliner, and we talked about what to do. I told him in "the old days" (10-15 years ago!) they didn't have MRIs. They'd x-ray it in the ER, and when no fracture showed up, they'd basically say, it could be this, this, or this! Go home, stay off it, rest, ice and a good brace... and if it's not better in 4-6 weeks, we'll probably have to do arthroscopic surgery to see what damage you've done.
So... I bought a hinged knee brace on Amazon for $100 (literally the only money I'd spent in 9 months) and he wore it for 6 weeks. He stayed off it for 2 weeks, then started using a cane.
It took him about 4 months for all the tenderness to go away, and for the leg to regain full strength. But it worked- and didn't cost us 10 grand for the ER and a MRI!
Summerthyme
Jubilee on Earth
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FYI, for those that like Wright brand bacon and have a Meijer’s near you, it’s on sale right now for $7.99 for 1.5 lb package.
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I know this is really good bacon but Kroger also has their own brand of thick sliced. It’s pretty good!
Im still not ready to pay that price for Wright’s, unless it’s for a special occasion
John Deere Girl
Veteran Member
one of our kids went to Kroger yesterday to get a few things and decided to get flour. King Arthur 5 lb bag is $10, a 10 lb is $10.50 now.
Laurelayn
Veteran Member
LOL, I came here to post about something else, but, I had to reply to this because I just picked up a cabesa burrito for dinner.
(marinated slow cooked cow head, YUMMY!)
Laurelayn
Veteran Member
We went grocery shopping today ( DH usually does it) I didn't notice any shortages, everything well stocked. The prices though! $5.19 a lb. for my favorite chorizos. $1.49 for a small bunch of collard greens, and so on.
The one thing that is kind of freaking me out is the number of adults still masked up in Boise Idaho! I was the ONLY adult without a mask on in the whole store and there were probably a little over a hundred people in there!
A karen employee came at me as I walked in and tried to shove a mask on me and I just said "I cant wear a mask"
I felt a little shook at first and just put on a beaming smile and started praying for a courage booster.
I got a few dirty looks but no one else said anything.
I just cant make myself participate in this crap.
The CDC death numbers are lower for 2020 than they were for 2017 fer crimenys sakes! Pandemic my ass!
Does anyone even know what the implications for that word is any more?
I've been kind of feeling my inner sheepdog...... GRRRRRRRR
The one thing that is kind of freaking me out is the number of adults still masked up in Boise Idaho! I was the ONLY adult without a mask on in the whole store and there were probably a little over a hundred people in there!
A karen employee came at me as I walked in and tried to shove a mask on me and I just said "I cant wear a mask"
I felt a little shook at first and just put on a beaming smile and started praying for a courage booster.
I got a few dirty looks but no one else said anything.
I just cant make myself participate in this crap.
The CDC death numbers are lower for 2020 than they were for 2017 fer crimenys sakes! Pandemic my ass!
Does anyone even know what the implications for that word is any more?
I've been kind of feeling my inner sheepdog...... GRRRRRRRR
Adding a reminder to please include your general area.
I lucked out this week (N. MN). The local/regional grocery store put out their two week ad booklet, and they did have some beef and pork worth stocking. Good boneless pork loin roasts for $1.99/lb, 80% burger for $2.99/lb and T-bonz for $7.77. I managed to hit the right time of the morning when the guys in back must have just finished with a few sides, and they put out the Porterhouse cuts from their T-bone slicing...they priced the Porterhouses at $8.48/lb! Haha! You don't see those very often. I grilled one yesterday, and it was so tender it almost wanted to fall apart in my hands when I carried it out to put on the BBQ. I'll know more when the meat store ad comes out tomorrow, but trying to keep the freezer topped off.
I lucked out this week (N. MN). The local/regional grocery store put out their two week ad booklet, and they did have some beef and pork worth stocking. Good boneless pork loin roasts for $1.99/lb, 80% burger for $2.99/lb and T-bonz for $7.77. I managed to hit the right time of the morning when the guys in back must have just finished with a few sides, and they put out the Porterhouse cuts from their T-bone slicing...they priced the Porterhouses at $8.48/lb! Haha! You don't see those very often. I grilled one yesterday, and it was so tender it almost wanted to fall apart in my hands when I carried it out to put on the BBQ. I'll know more when the meat store ad comes out tomorrow, but trying to keep the freezer topped off.
rafter
Since 1999
Normal price for it at Walmart is $8 something....everyday.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Central Iowa. Blueberries were $6.88 a pint at Fareway yesterday.
nomifyle
TB Fanatic
Bacon ends and pieces, at walmart, went for 8.99 to 10.99. I'd still buy it at that price but I have at least 3 packages in my freezers. I actually went in walmart and only bought the three things I wanted. When I first went in the door I completely forgot why I went there, but saw a sign that indicated that's where the make up was. I needed to replace eye shadow and mascara because what I have really bothered my eyes a couple of weeks ago and I had not worn eye makeup in well over a year. I wanted sugar free pancake syrup because I pour some on scrambled eggs.
God is good all the time
Judy
God is good all the time
Judy
Jubilee on Earth
Veteran Member
I wish we had a Kroger near us. The closest one is 3 hours away. It’s either Walmart or Meijer for us.I know this is really good bacon but Kroger also has their own brand of thick sliced. It’s pretty good!
Im still not ready to pay that price for Wright’s, unless it’s for a special occasion
Jubilee on Earth
Veteran Member
That’s insane! Thankfully I can pick all I want here in Michigan. But I have to wait until August.
Jubilee on Earth
Veteran Member
$8.99 at my Walmart.
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Meier stores aren’t bad! We have one close to us but Kroger is closer
Martinhouse
Deceased
Nomifyle, I read a long time ago that if you don't use eye make-up within about six months, it should be tossed and replaced because lots of germs can grow on it while it's just sitting around unused or seldom used.
This could be why yours bothered your eyes.
This could be why yours bothered your eyes.
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
True.
I have to throw out my eye makeup especially mascara if beyond a couple of months old.
John Deere Girl
Veteran Member
I checked our Kroger online, and our daughter was right. I'd definitely stock up at your price though.
marsh
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Chicken prices rise as poultry plants struggle to find workers
Chicken prices, including wings, are on the rise, say executives at Wingstop and Pilgrim's Pride, on a shortage of poultry plant workers.
Chicken prices rise as poultry plants struggle to find workers
Julie Hyman
Fri, April 30, 2021, 1:24 PM·2 min read
Barbecue- and Buffalo-lovers, take note: chicken wing prices are going up.
Chicken producers are crimped by a labor shortage, and inflation is making its way through the entire bird. Fast-casual chain Wingstop saw bone-in wing prices rise 25.8% in its first quarter, which was considerably lower than the market-rate increase of 50%. (Company executives said they were able to negotiate lower prices with suppliers.)
"You're actually seeing inflation in all parts of the bird, not just wings," Wingstop Chief Financial Officer Michael Skipworth told Yahoo Finance Live.
There are poultry producers who are having trouble staffing their plants at 100%, he said. "We really believe that has to do with the pressure on the labor market and the amount of stimulus that's enabling people not to have to go out and work, and claim these open jobs that are available to them," he added.
Wingstop has been able to mitigate those higher poultry costs by boosting menu prices and managing other types of costs, according to Skipworth. He highlighted that while processors are having a tough time finding employees, Wingstop is not: "We have an efficient model that is able to leverage a relatively small roster, and with that small roster size, we were able to minimize the impact of any sort of labor shortage as well as any sort of impact as it relates to wage inflation."
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - FEBRUARY 09: Wings are served as Wingstop brings their Flavor World to Brandon Maxwell's New York Fashion Week Show on February 09, 2019 in New York City. (Photo by Bennett Raglin/Getty Images for Wingstop)
Meanwhile, chicken and pork producer Pilgrim's Pride is acutely feeling the labor shortage. This week the company, controlled by Brazil's JBS, reported sales rose 6.5% last quarter. But it's shelling out $40 million in wage increases this year to attract and retain workers, targeting a shortage that's the result of "the stimulus payment, income tax refunds, and ... unemployment benefits," Pilgrim's Pride CEO Fabio Sandri said on the conference call. "The labor market today seems tighter than the one we had when we were in full employment mode. So today we're staffed less than we were even before the pandemic."
Pilgrim's Pride also has another solution to the problem: robots. The company plans to spend $100 million over the next year to further automate operations, with the potential to reduce its necessary workforce by 5,600 positions, Sandri said in the call.
The average pay to work in a chicken plant is $36,121, according to ZipRecruiter.
Barry Natchitoches
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I am not seeing a chicken shortage where I am standing.
I am in suburban Memphis, but what might be more relevant — because of huge medical bills from my wife’s eight year battle with cancer plus my early retirement to take care of her - I have been utilizing Trump’s Farmers to Families food box program and an occasional mobile pantry giveaway from the Mid-South food bank to help balance the budget.
With the Farmers to Families program, I can get up to 4 food boxes every week, and I take advantage of that most weeks, since the distribution point is just a few miles from my home.
Every box I have ever gotten from them has had two packages (apps 5 pounds total) of chicken in them - mostly pre-cooked chicken leg-thigh combos, or else boneless, skinless chicken thighs. The two of us cannot eat 20 pounds of chicken in a given week, so I have frozen a lot of it, and shared some of it with others.
(FYI: in case you are curious, the rest of the 25 pound boxes tend to have things like bags of potatoes, apples, and either onion or else cabbage in them, plus some assortment of dairy which might include cottage cheese, sour cream, and/or yogurt, plus one 1 pound block of cheese ( type of cheese varied between cheddar, Monterrey jack, mozzarella, Colby jack, Gouda, or one half pound boxes of VELVEETA cheese). And in every box was a one gallon jug of 2% white milk. One time, the boxes included celery instead of onions, and there were a few times that they threw in a few sweet potatoes... Just in case you were wondering what came in those boxes that your tax dollars paid for... The yogurt and cottage cheese was a godsend for my wife - with her chemo, she has days that the only thing she can hold down is the yogurt and the cottage cheese...)
Anyway, I have a freezer just full of chicken and cheese as a result of about six months of these boxes.
But the Farmers to Families boxes consist of only these items. There is little variety from one week to the next. So once or twice each month, I hit a mid-south mobile pantry. Their food varies quite a lot from one mobile pantry giveaway to the next, allowing variety in the diet that would not be possible utilizing only F2F food boxes.
So I hit a mobile pantry giveaway just yesterday. They were quite generous with what they loaded into my trunk, and I appreciate all they gave me. Just as I appreciate all I have been given thru the Farmers to Families program.
But after reading all this stuff about chicken shortages, when I got home, I was surprised to find that they had given me an entire case (30 pounds, I think) of frozen chicken drumsticks. Plus, they had also given me two cases (48 cans at 6 ounces per can) of canned chicken, packed in water.
It was so much chicken that I invited a couple of neighbor families over this evening for a chicken leg and roasted potato cook out.
So it is really hard for me to visualize there might be a shortage of chicken...
Unless, of course, the reason there is a chicken shortage is BECAUSE Trump’s Farmers to Families program and the mid-south food bank bought up all the chicken stocks before they made it to your local grocery store...
I am in suburban Memphis, but what might be more relevant — because of huge medical bills from my wife’s eight year battle with cancer plus my early retirement to take care of her - I have been utilizing Trump’s Farmers to Families food box program and an occasional mobile pantry giveaway from the Mid-South food bank to help balance the budget.
With the Farmers to Families program, I can get up to 4 food boxes every week, and I take advantage of that most weeks, since the distribution point is just a few miles from my home.
Every box I have ever gotten from them has had two packages (apps 5 pounds total) of chicken in them - mostly pre-cooked chicken leg-thigh combos, or else boneless, skinless chicken thighs. The two of us cannot eat 20 pounds of chicken in a given week, so I have frozen a lot of it, and shared some of it with others.
(FYI: in case you are curious, the rest of the 25 pound boxes tend to have things like bags of potatoes, apples, and either onion or else cabbage in them, plus some assortment of dairy which might include cottage cheese, sour cream, and/or yogurt, plus one 1 pound block of cheese ( type of cheese varied between cheddar, Monterrey jack, mozzarella, Colby jack, Gouda, or one half pound boxes of VELVEETA cheese). And in every box was a one gallon jug of 2% white milk. One time, the boxes included celery instead of onions, and there were a few times that they threw in a few sweet potatoes... Just in case you were wondering what came in those boxes that your tax dollars paid for... The yogurt and cottage cheese was a godsend for my wife - with her chemo, she has days that the only thing she can hold down is the yogurt and the cottage cheese...)
Anyway, I have a freezer just full of chicken and cheese as a result of about six months of these boxes.
But the Farmers to Families boxes consist of only these items. There is little variety from one week to the next. So once or twice each month, I hit a mid-south mobile pantry. Their food varies quite a lot from one mobile pantry giveaway to the next, allowing variety in the diet that would not be possible utilizing only F2F food boxes.
So I hit a mobile pantry giveaway just yesterday. They were quite generous with what they loaded into my trunk, and I appreciate all they gave me. Just as I appreciate all I have been given thru the Farmers to Families program.
But after reading all this stuff about chicken shortages, when I got home, I was surprised to find that they had given me an entire case (30 pounds, I think) of frozen chicken drumsticks. Plus, they had also given me two cases (48 cans at 6 ounces per can) of canned chicken, packed in water.
It was so much chicken that I invited a couple of neighbor families over this evening for a chicken leg and roasted potato cook out.
So it is really hard for me to visualize there might be a shortage of chicken...
Unless, of course, the reason there is a chicken shortage is BECAUSE Trump’s Farmers to Families program and the mid-south food bank bought up all the chicken stocks before they made it to your local grocery store...
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Tennessee gal
Veteran Member
Barry, praying for your dear wife and for you.
Chicken prices will be going up. Tyson is increasing their hourly workers pay. Tyson is doing the pay increase one plant at a time. My daughter and her husband both hold the same position. One step below the supervisor who is on salary. The salaried workers did not get an increase at this time. Our daughter and her husband each got a $3.60 an hour raise. Our son, who works maintenance at the same plant got a $2.00 an hour raise. I am happy for the kids, but we will feel this in store prices soon.
Meanwhile, at the feed store, the price of 50 lbs of corn has gone from $6 something in the fall to just over $10.
Meanwhile, at the feed store, the price of 50 lbs of corn has gone from $6 something in the fall to just over $10.
Deanne
Veteran Member
Our Kroger here in Ohio has it for 2.69 a lb
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
This is a small little thing to add here but awhile back maybe, I might have mentioned that hubby likes cornflakes every single day.
Every day. Giant bowl.
Well, I went to buying Kroger brand, due to price of Kellogg’s and demcrap affiliations.
It has always been 1.49$ box, I buy 2-3 at a time and put some in storage.
It’s now 1.79$ /box!
The price went up in early April.
Every day. Giant bowl.
Well, I went to buying Kroger brand, due to price of Kellogg’s and demcrap affiliations.
It has always been 1.49$ box, I buy 2-3 at a time and put some in storage.
It’s now 1.79$ /box!
The price went up in early April.
rafter
Since 1999
We have a Tyson plant about 50 miles from my house. They start at $18 an hour and go way up from there quickly to over $20. IMO, those doing that job deserve all they can get.
Chicken prices rise as poultry plants struggle to find workers
Chicken prices, including wings, are on the rise, say executives at Wingstop and Pilgrim's Pride, on a shortage of poultry plant workers.finance.yahoo.com
Chicken prices rise as poultry plants struggle to find workers
Julie Hyman
Fri, April 30, 2021, 1:24 PM·2 min read
Barbecue- and Buffalo-lovers, take note: chicken wing prices are going up.
Chicken producers are crimped by a labor shortage, and inflation is making its way through the entire bird. Fast-casual chain Wingstop saw bone-in wing prices rise 25.8% in its first quarter, which was considerably lower than the market-rate increase of 50%. (Company executives said they were able to negotiate lower prices with suppliers.)
"You're actually seeing inflation in all parts of the bird, not just wings," Wingstop Chief Financial Officer Michael Skipworth told Yahoo Finance Live.
There are poultry producers who are having trouble staffing their plants at 100%, he said. "We really believe that has to do with the pressure on the labor market and the amount of stimulus that's enabling people not to have to go out and work, and claim these open jobs that are available to them," he added.
Wingstop has been able to mitigate those higher poultry costs by boosting menu prices and managing other types of costs, according to Skipworth. He highlighted that while processors are having a tough time finding employees, Wingstop is not: "We have an efficient model that is able to leverage a relatively small roster, and with that small roster size, we were able to minimize the impact of any sort of labor shortage as well as any sort of impact as it relates to wage inflation."
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - FEBRUARY 09: Wings are served as Wingstop brings their Flavor World to Brandon Maxwell's New York Fashion Week Show on February 09, 2019 in New York City. (Photo by Bennett Raglin/Getty Images for Wingstop)
Meanwhile, chicken and pork producer Pilgrim's Pride is acutely feeling the labor shortage. This week the company, controlled by Brazil's JBS, reported sales rose 6.5% last quarter. But it's shelling out $40 million in wage increases this year to attract and retain workers, targeting a shortage that's the result of "the stimulus payment, income tax refunds, and ... unemployment benefits," Pilgrim's Pride CEO Fabio Sandri said on the conference call. "The labor market today seems tighter than the one we had when we were in full employment mode. So today we're staffed less than we were even before the pandemic."
Pilgrim's Pride also has another solution to the problem: robots. The company plans to spend $100 million over the next year to further automate operations, with the potential to reduce its necessary workforce by 5,600 positions, Sandri said in the call.
The average pay to work in a chicken plant is $36,121, according to ZipRecruiter.
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
We love bone in breasts too! They’re a pain if I’m in a hurry but SO much more flavorful
Martinhouse
Deceased
Digger, thanks for the Tyson information. It helps me with my shopping list.
Was that whole corn price increase in town or at our small-town local feed/hardware store?
Was that whole corn price increase in town or at our small-town local feed/hardware store?
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