EBOLA Regarding Ebola, is it time to sound the "all clear" bell? Or did it just go underground?

Is the Ebola Crisis of Fall 2014 Now Over?

  • It's just a mop-up now, and the worst is over. Couple more cases to deal with and we're clear.

    Votes: 18 6.6%
  • Looks like it may be over, but the govt may be suppressing the true facts of this potential epidemic

    Votes: 64 23.6%
  • There's no doubt that this isn't over. We're just getting warmed up. There are many cases we're not

    Votes: 112 41.3%
  • Just getting warmed up. This was only the opening act. Buckle your seat belts.

    Votes: 77 28.4%

  • Total voters
    271

Broccoli

Contributing Member
One of the main points made by John Barry, the author of The Great Influenza is that the media never covered the 1918 flu. The newspapers of the time maintained silence of the deadly flu and it was business as usual. Information was passed by word of mouth from health workers working the streets with hospitals being their hubs of info.

Note to self - must get more barf bags.
 

FROG

Contributing Member
One of the main points made by John Barry, the author of The Great Influenza is that the media never covered the 1918 flu. The newspapers of the time maintained silence of the deadly flu and it was business as usual. Information was passed by word of mouth from health workers working the streets with hospitals being their hubs of info.

Note to self - must get more barf bags.

Seriously?!!! How can the people who make these decisions live with themselves?
 

Broccoli

Contributing Member
The point of the book was that the flu information created a different network outside of regular media outlets. In fact to many people in those days, the whole 1918 flu never occurred which was part of his frustration in writing the book.

Kind of like now, everybody is living and waiting to hear more whispers from Dallas Presbyterian Hospital. The media is slamming the hospital keeping it under fire to suppres any information that will leak. In the meantime, the workers are desperately trying to get the word out.

If your worried about your livelihood, you learn pretty quick which source to listen to.
 

wab54

Veteran Member
TPTB is keeping things quiet so the panic can subside. Rest assured, EBOLA is still out there and doing well. Keep supplies updated and stay ready.


WAB
 

Broccoli

Contributing Member
CNN has learned that the Pentagon has designated four major military hospitals in the United States as treatment centers for any potential U.S. troops that contract Ebola while on deployment in West Africa.
For initial cases, troops would be evacuated to Walter Reed Army Medical Center in the Washington, D.C., area, according to a defense official.
If Walter Reed became overwhelmed with cases, the overflow would be sent to Womack Army Medical Center at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. After that, troops would be sent to Brooke Army Medical Center at Fort Sam Houston, Texas and then to Madigan Army Medical Center at Joint Base Lewis-McChord just outside Tacoma, Washington.

Ebola hasn't gone anywhere. It will soon be everywhere. Very soon.
 

pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
For some reason this keeps coming to mind regarding the ebola threat to our shores:

And this time a dark shadowy angel turned his face southward. From Africa I saw an ill omened spectra approach our land. It flitted slowly and heavily over every town and city of the latter.

At this stage of the cover up and that is what is going on right now, we must start listing the private reports. I heard a person call into AJ show last week that said the military had already been to Harborview Hospital in Seattle, the reason for the visit was unknown.

http://www.propheticroundtable.org/vision_of_george_washington.htm
 

Cohickman

Veteran Member
Warning the following statement is dripping with sarcasm. Sarcasm has been found by the Surgeon General to be highly contagious. Use proper PPE when reading.

The administration would never lie to us.
 
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Fetz

Senior Member
Before ebola entered the USA the news and certain gov. officials claimed it spread in West Africa because they were "third world" countries. It only took one patient to indeed show we are also "third world" in capability and human nature.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Again, the fear we all have is primarily due to the inability to trust this administration. I posted a thread a couple days ago "A Toxic President" that explains all this in detail:

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?457301-Goodwin-A-Toxic-President-MUST-READ!

This thread is a MUST READ IMO.

Finally read the thread, and Dennis is right.. The cause of all the panic is the absolute mistrust that most of America has for the President and those in his administration.
The CDC didn't help when in the initial case it bungled one thing after another.

The CDC and doctors were one of the last groups of people that most Americans considered trustworthy.

The average American doesn't know squat about tropical diseases. When a particularly lethal bug surfaces here in the US they all expected the CDC, who have been receiving billions, to spring into action. What a let down and disappointment.
When even the average man on the street could see the bumbling stupid political correct, government responses, they had that empty feeling in the pit of their stomach that there was suddenly no one looking out for them and no one they could trust.
Panic naturally follows.
The sheeple are not used to thinking for themselves. When they are suddenly left with no alternative, panic follows. :lol:

The administration and the CDC blew it. The trust has been lost and it will be a cold day in hell before they regain the public trust. If they say it's raining, even the dumbest DGI is now going to be checking his boots to make sure their not pissing on them.
 

lectrickitty

Great Great Grandma!
An internet friend who works in a lab is telling me that there are many cases that we are not being told about. She claims they were told to keep their mouth shut and they are no longer calling it ebola, but are waiting to be told what to call it. She thinks it will be given a new name and proclaimed to be a new disease, but it will be ebola in disguise.

I don't know her personally, she's only an internet friend so this could be totally bogus, but then again, it could be true. No way to know until it either happens or not.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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When a particularly lethal bug surfaces here in the US they all expected the CDC, who have been receiving billions, to spring into action. What a let down and disappointment.


Katrina redux (though different agency)


"Great job Brownie..."
 

Hognutz

Has No Life - Lives on TB
When a particularly lethal bug surfaces here in the US they all expected the CDC, who have been receiving billions, to spring into action. What a let down and disappointment.


Katrina redux (though different agency)


"Great job Brownie..."


I like your analogy. I say we stick all the quarantined folks in a metrodome. It would be fitting of .Gov.
 

John Green

Veteran Member
An internet friend who works in a lab is telling me that there are many cases that we are not being told about. She claims they were told to keep their mouth shut and they are no longer calling it ebola, but are waiting to be told what to call it. She thinks it will be given a new name and proclaimed to be a new disease, but it will be ebola in disguise.

I don't know her personally, she's only an internet friend so this could be totally bogus, but then again, it could be true. No way to know until it either happens or not.
They will call it the New Flu and tell us all to take the shot and we will all be fine.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
CNN has learned that the Pentagon has designated four major military hospitals in the United States as treatment centers for any potential U.S. troops that contract Ebola while on deployment in West Africa.
For initial cases, troops would be evacuated to Walter Reed Army Medical Center in the Washington, D.C., area, according to a defense official.
If Walter Reed became overwhelmed with cases, the overflow would be sent to Womack Army Medical Center at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. After that, troops would be sent to Brooke Army Medical Center at Fort Sam Houston, Texas and then to Madigan Army Medical Center at Joint Base Lewis-McChord just outside Tacoma, Washington.

Ebola hasn't gone anywhere. It will soon be everywhere. Very soon.
AW CHIT.
I am going there(Ft Lewis-Madian Army Hosp) Thursday to pick up insulin, think I will do a little tour to see if anything has changed and how the people there feel about that.
They HAD to include my primary care facility. Rats.
 

2x2

Inactive
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/21/health/ebola-outbreak/

Freelance cameraman free of Ebola, can leave Nebraska hospital.

(CNN) -- Freelance cameraman Ashoka Mukpo no longer has the Ebola virus in his bloodstream and will be allowed to leave Nebraska Medical Center, the hospital said Tuesday.

"Just got my results," Mukpo tweeted. "3 consecutive days negative. Ebola free and feeling so blessed. I fought and won, with lots of help. Amazing feeling."

The 33-year-old was working for NBC News when he tested positive for Ebola in Liberia. Mukpo was among a team working with Dr. Nancy Snyderman, the network's chief medical correspondent.

Mukpo spent about two weeks at the hospital in Omaha, Nebraska. The hospital said he can head back home to Rhode Island on Wednesday.

"Recovering from Ebola is a truly humbling feeling," the hospital quoted Mukpo as saying. "Too many are not as fortunate and lucky as I've been. I'm very happy to be alive."

Two nurses undergoing treatment for the virus also got good news on Tuesday.

The National Institutes of Health said the condition of Nina Pham, a Texas nurse who contracted Ebola while caring for a patient, was upgraded from fair to good.

Pham is at the NIH Hospital in Bethesda, Maryland. She cared for Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person to die of Ebola in the United States, at a Texas hospital.

And in Spain, nurse's aide Teresa Romero Ramos, who contracted Ebola after treating virus-stricken patients in Madrid, is now free of the virus, her doctors announced.

U.S. limits airports for passengers from Ebola-stricken region

The United States is doing more to help prevent the spread of the virus. The Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday that all arriving passengers from West African countries that Ebola has hit hardest -- Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea -- must land in one of the five U.S. airports that have enhanced Ebola screening.
Understanding Ebola protocols

Those airports are New York's John F. Kennedy International, D.C.'s Washington Dulles, New Jersey's Newark Liberty International, Chicago's O'Hare International and Hartsfield-Jackson International in Atlanta.

On its website, the Department of Homeland Security shows how many people have been screened and then taken to health care facilities for further checks. JFK appears to be outpacing the other airports in screenings.

In Dallas, where Pham and a second nurse contracted Ebola from Duncan, a Liberian man, officials announced that a state-of-the art Ebola treatment and infectious disease biocontainment facility would be created in north Texas.

UT Southwestern Medical Center, Methodist Hospital System and Parkland Hospital System will work together on getting that center up and running. The hospitals are providing equipment and it will be staffed according to need, Gov. Rick Perry's office said.

Perry's task force on how to prepare the state for handling infectious diseases like Ebola had earlier recommended such a center be created.

The University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston has also been designated an Ebola treatment and infectious disease biocontainment facility, Perry's office said.

Vaccine testing

Also Tuesday, the World Health Organization announced that testing was underway at the NIH for an Ebola vaccine. A trial for a second vaccine, developed in Canada, has started at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research in Silver Spring, Maryland.

The goal is to launch vaccine trials in West Africa by January, said Dr. Marie Paule Kieny, the WHO's assistant director general for health systems and innovation.

The initial vaccine tests are being given to volunteers in countries such as Mali, the United States and England. It is impossible to get Ebola from the vaccines, Kieny said, because they do not contain enough of the virus' genetic material. But "there is no vaccine that has no side effects at all," she added.

It's not clear when vaccines could be distributed to the masses. That won't be determined until after test results come in. When the testing reaches West Africa, candidates could include relatives of infected Ebola patients, Kieny said.
 

Babs

Veteran Member
The fundamental problem is trust. Barack "If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan" Obama has lied to us so many times, that people wouldn't believe him if he said the sky was blue.

Yes, trust is an issue. But then, I usually don't trust people who are actively trying to destroy my country. I refer to them as "enemies".
I also have trust issues with people who are in charge of healthcare, who also believe that the population needs to be taken down a notch, as it causes me to fear.

The lying by our government began long before Obola. If they never started lying or threatening to kill me, I would probably have no trust issues with them.

Yes, my fight or flight response has kicked in. Whatever I hear coming out of Washington, I will assume the opposite is true.
 
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