Quake Prediction Says "Signal Just Hit," Warns Of Potential Big Earthquake From San Francisco To LA

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Dutchsinse has been doing a pretty good quake prediction of late. He went on live at 12 midnight my time tonight and said he's been blocked from his usual internet access on several fronts for the past month and is none to happy about it. Had a poll about getting a van and traveling to do his quake predictions, overwhelming yes to that by his viewers.
Have to say, he's been extremely close on his predictions, I think he has a good deal of the quake causes figured out.

Has he been close in his predictions? I followed him for about 6-8 months, oh say 15 years ago. He had an impressive site with the most professional graphics and animations at the time. I stopped because his basic theories at that time were wrong and his predictions were never right. He disappeared for quite a while IIRC. So now his predictions are pretty good?
 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
We are at perihelion at 10:17 am 2moro

Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 10:17 am CST
Distance from the Sun's center to Earth's center will be 147,098,925 km (91,403,034 mi)
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high tide 2moro at 9:03 am at 6.3 ft in San Fran bay

4Wed9:036.311:374.7

the highest tide will be morning of Sat Jan 21st at 7.2 ft as the moon is entering its New Moon phase

Jim had a method for calculating additional water weight in the cubic millions during peak days and it was impressive, he was die hard on tides and apogees.
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
that tells me everything I need to know right there, dutch is an idiot.
In the Iowa river bluffs here with the eagles and lovin it.

What Doug said, Jim Berkland was an absolute siren with Art about tides and water weight in San Fran Bay.

I miss them both too.

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IIRC, Jim said quakes tend to happen in windows of time centered on the times of Sunrise and Sunset. It’s been so long, but I thought it was 6 hour wide window of time. Three hours before and after the local sunrise and sunset.
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Has anyone heard what the predictor organization is saying now?

Have they updated or refined their prediction?

Does anyone know what exactly is their strong signal of a pending quake is?

..like….

Strain gauges?, tilt gauges, soil conductivity, Signals? Or a combination of factors(meaning they aren’t going to say)?

Have they made any statements today?
 
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Double_A

TB Fanatic
I knew this was coming . . . :lkick:

The original 98% certainty 48 hour window has now moved to 1/3/22 to 1/5/22.

View: https://twitter.com/Quakeprediction/status/1610291776442535936

If you follow the early links to Twitter where this was posted, they show a series of color coded graphics with probabilities and geographical regions presented in a rolling fashion, one days forecast is rolled forward with different probabilities. It doesn’t look like they forecast in a one and done fashion.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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If you follow the early links to Twitter where this was posted, they show a series of color coded graphics with probabilities and geographical regions presented in a rolling fashion, one days forecast is rolled forward with different probabilities. It doesn’t look like they forecast in a one and done fashion.

Moving the goalposts?
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Moving the goalposts?

Well.... yes and no.

Yes your moving the goal posts but that is the way a lot of things are that are 24hrsx365, moving average etc etc

Ever since Oct 1989 I've been paying pretty close attention to these issues. Frankly I'm not all that impressed with these forecasts, their website, or their Twitter account.
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
One thing that has been talked about and does have some merit is the lubrication of faults that had been dry over a multi-year drought. Several years back comments were made we need to be cautious after the rains start falling again.

But not sure that's the case here. It takes years(heck maybe decades) for faults to dry out and the same I would imagine for rain to work it's way deep down. I'm doubtful that recents rains are going to be an issue while they are falling, like now.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.

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pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
There was a geologist in California who tracked lost and found pets in the paper. He graphed the results and when they went up the earthquake activity went up. It was a short by-the-way in a program about all the ways we try to predict earthquakes.

Shadow

That's actually really smart.

Nowadays you could track animal activity in many animal reserves. A lot of species are chiped in a collar and habits are tracked.

It's worth a look at if anyone has access. Plus you could look at past events/locations, then pull the animal tracking to see if they averted places with geologic activity. I guess you could do the same for weather events as well.
There are probably many parameters that could be studied. This would be a great Bio PhD project. No field work! Just a computer.

Very interesting stuffs.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
That's actually really smart.

Nowadays you could track animal activity in many animal reserves. A lot of species are chiped in a collar and habits are tracked.

It's worth a look at if anyone has access. Plus you could look at past events/locations, then pull the animal tracking to see if they averted places with geologic activity. I guess you could do the same for weather events as well.
There are probably many parameters that could be studied. This would be a great Bio PhD project. No field work! Just a computer.

Very interesting stuffs.

Before the Sumatra and Japan monster quakes fishermen where complaining that the ocean had no fish, this was something like three days before the big quakes happened.
 

Bob the Builder

Contributing Member
So someone with science in their resume please explain what a full moon has to do with anything. (relating to earthquakes)
The moon is in the same place, at the same time. It never gets bigger or smaller so no closer or farther. It only has light shining on it. No heavier or weight loss.
There is a minor elliptical orbit involved which of course leads to relatively higher and lower tides, along with sun position, ie. leap tides - king tides.
But more light shining on the moon increases magnetic attraction?
Not making the connection.
 

NoDandy

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I worked with a guy, that said he was working in a high-rise building in Downtown LA when a big quake hit. Said it was spooky as hell.
I would imagine it would be.

I remember being in NYC in 1968. Looked out from a 60 story building, and thinking " if an earthquake were to hit ?"

I could not get out of that building quick enough !!!!!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
So someone with science in their resume please explain what a full moon has to do with anything. (relating to earthquakes)
The moon is in the same place, at the same time. It never gets bigger or smaller so no closer or farther. It only has light shining on it. No heavier or weight loss.
There is a minor elliptical orbit involved which of course leads to relatively higher and lower tides, along with sun position, ie. leap tides - king tides.
But more light shining on the moon increases magnetic attraction?
Not making the connection.

You clearly do not live near an ocean, or giant body of water. I don't have time to edumucate you, go over to spaceweather.com and do a search for the moons pull on the earth and how it affects tidal action.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I would imagine it would be.

I remember being in NYC in 1968. Looked out from a 60 story building, and thinking " if an earthquake were to hit ?"

I could not get out of that building quick enough !!!!!

NYC is screwed if a big quake hits there, none of those buildings are kitted out for really big quakes.
 

West

Senior
During full moons the energies peek for humans too. That energy is a factor to be recognized. :D

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So someone with science in their resume please explain what a full moon has to do with anything. (relating to earthquakes)
The moon is in the same place, at the same time. It never gets bigger or smaller so no closer or farther. It only has light shining on it. No heavier or weight loss.
There is a minor elliptical orbit involved which of course leads to relatively higher and lower tides, along with sun position, ie. leap tides - king tides.
But more light shining on the moon increases magnetic attraction?
Not making the connection.
 

Creedmoor

Tempus Fugit
There was a geologist in California who tracked lost and found pets in the paper. He graphed the results and when they went up the earthquake activity went up. It was a short by-the-way in a program about all the ways we try to predict earthquakes.

Shadow
I think that was Berkland as well. He has a LinkedIn for his earthquake newsletter.

Jim Berkland​

Owner/Editor SYZYGY---Earthquake Newsletter​

Glen Ellen, California, United States​

 

flying screwdriver

Veteran Member
So someone with science in their resume please explain what a full moon has to do with anything. (relating to earthquakes)
The moon is in the same place, at the same time. It never gets bigger or smaller so no closer or farther. It only has light shining on it. No heavier or weight loss.
There is a minor elliptical orbit involved which of course leads to relatively higher and lower tides, along with sun position, ie. leap tides - king tides.
But more light shining on the moon increases magnetic attraction?
Not making the connection.
Full moon:
Sun —-> Earth -> Moon

Two weeks later the position has changed.
New Moon:
Sun—-> Moon -> Earth

The gravitational forces on Earth change constantly because the Moon opposition changes.

No. Science resume not needed, unless you count grade school earth sciences.
I passed it FWIW.
 

tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
NYC is screwed if a big quake hits there, none of those buildings are kitted out for really big quakes.

I read an article about an earthquake in downtown Portland, Oregon which said there would be about three feet of broken glass around the tallest building downtown. I imagine fallen piles of glass would be a big deal around tall buildings in New York City as well even if the buildings themselves survived (more-or-less). Now imagine women trying to evacuate out in open toed shoes over many feet thick piles of glass (or even guys in frou-frou dress shoes). By the way, the article said a downtown earthquake would be even more devastating to Portland than the dreaded 9.0-plus Cascadia Subduction Zone event.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Read something years ago about “earthquake clouds”….
They're real enough that Harvard has published abstracts from the American Geophysical Union, Fall Meeting 2006, dicussing:

Earthquake clouds and physical mechanism of their formation.​


 

babysteps

Veteran Member
I read an article about an earthquake in downtown Portland, Oregon which said there would be about three feet of broken glass around the tallest building downtown. I imagine fallen piles of glass would be a big deal around tall buildings in New York City as well even if the buildings themselves survived (more-or-less). Now imagine women trying to evacuate out in open toed shoes over many feet thick piles of glass (or even guys in frou-frou dress shoes). By the way, the article said a downtown earthquake would be even more devastating to Portland than the dreaded 9.0-plus Cascadia Subduction Zone event.

Interesting. I'd love to read that article if you remember where you came across it. I hadn't heard that they were anticipating any really large quakes in the Portland area other than Cascadia.

We had a little 4.1 quake in my area around the beginning of October which was totally unexpected, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if Portland got one also.

One of the issues Portland has is the large number of unreinforced brick buildings. Basically that three feet of glass is likely to be covered by another ten feet of bricks. And you wouldn't want to be inside any masonry building... or on the street near it, either.

I really hope that these California predictions are WRONG. Big earthquakes are freaky things.
 

CaBuckeye

Contributing Member
Predicting an earthquake via an animals reactions or disappearances, in my experience, does not seem to be a reliable predictor. I have been living in California since the early 70's with house pets and earthquakes were a part of my Engineering position to protect from and mitigate any impact on my company. Over the past 50 so years, I have experienced a 100 or so noticeable earthquakes 3.0 and above, including the 1989 quake. None of our animals ever showed any pre-quake sensitivity. Our neighbors dogs (both sides) are very sensitive and will bark for hours at every real or potential skunk, possum, squirrel, shadow, bird, wind gust, flying leaves, sunspot, etc. A week ago, we were only a few miles away from a 3.+ epicenter only 4 miles deep. Normally, we don't even pay hardly any attention to a 3.5 or below, but being so close to shallow epicenter, we felt much more shaking energy than a typical 3 pointer we experience. We actually stopped the movie to watch hanging items sway back and forth. Of course, not a sound out of the neighborhood dogs before or after. Even our cat didn't wake up during the shaking.

On another note, I went to several Silicon Valley seminars where Geologist Jim Berkland spoke about earthquake potential and prediction methodology. When I spoke with him afterwards, he answered a number of questions openly and sincerely. Some of his methods were a little hard to accept but overall I think he may have been on to something that might have developed into a short range predictor. It's too bad that his conformist USGS bosses didn't like his out of the box thinking, which leaves us with no predicative capability and billions of tax dollars invested in holes in the ground.
 

Bob the Builder

Contributing Member
You clearly do not live near an ocean, or giant body of water. I don't have time to edumucate you, go over to spaceweather.com and do a search for the moons pull on the earth and how it affects tidal action.

Did you just assume my point of origin? How unpronounish.

I was born on the Oregon coast in Coos Bay. Lived in Astoria for many years. Worked on fishing boats in Oregon and Alaska for years after getting out of the Coast Guard where I lived and worked on the ocean for 4 years.
I was a rescue swimmer and worked aids to navigation in the Coast Guard and most of that does indeed deal with tidal action.
In addition the wife and I are both advanced open water divers.
I think I do have a grasp on water thank you very much.
None of which explains your conviction that the magic brightness of the moons COLOR has any bearing on the magnetic attraction or proliferation of earth quakes.
It's just sunshine.
 

Bob the Builder

Contributing Member
Full moon:
Sun —-> Earth -> Moon

Two weeks later the position has changed.
New Moon:
Sun—-> Moon -> Earth

The gravitational forces on Earth change constantly because the Moon opposition changes.

No. Science resume not needed, unless you count grade school earth sciences.
I passed it FWIW.
And that's all fine and good. Managed to get thru grade school unimpeded also.
Sun rises in the east.......shines on full moon setting in the west.
Sun sets in the west.......shines on full moon rising in the east.
It's still just color. Suns shine does not attract earthquakes.
Nutters to the emergency room maybe but light does nothing attractive.
Now if you stacked them up eclipse wise ......... but then you are not relying strictly on light are you
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Anecdotal, bit of successfully predicted a couple of volcanic eruptions with it. Don't know if it works for earthquakes.

Statistically a volcano erupts at the halfway point between lunar perigee and the next full moon.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
So someone with science in their resume please explain what a full moon has to do with anything. (relating to earthquakes)
The moon is in the same place, at the same time. It never gets bigger or smaller so no closer or farther. It only has light shining on it. No heavier or weight loss.
There is a minor elliptical orbit involved which of course leads to relatively higher and lower tides, along with sun position, ie. leap tides - king tides.
But more light shining on the moon increases magnetic attraction?
Not making the connection.
Good God.

Perigee and apogee, for starters.
 
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