Contagion Preps for coronavirus

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Letter: Acclimate to Wearing N95 Masks!


Dear Prepper Friends and Family,

As someone who sleeps with a CPAP machine running every night I’ve grown accustomed to the strangeness of having a mask on my face. Even more so, when I exhale the mask fills with hot breath and it feels as if I’m suffocating. When I inhale, however, I get clean, fresh air and it’s all okay. But I had to train myself to not struggle with it.

We’re all going to run into this situation with N-95 filter masks if and when the time comes to wear them whenever we go out in public, to protect ourselves from catching this COVID-19 virus. Wearing these masks gets uncomfortable p-r-e-t-t-y fast. The inside of the mask fills with hot / humid air, and then when you inhale you get fresh, cool air. (It’s worse with masks that don’t have an exhalation valve!)

My advice to you would be to pick one of your masks (hopefully you have a decent supply) and try wearing it. Start out for short periods of time, maybe just a minute while you’re watching television or reading a book (something not requiring physical exertion!). Then work your way up to wearing a mask for 15 -to- 20 minutes, the amount of time you might have to wear it to go into a store to make a purchase once the virus turns up in our communities.

You can’t be taking the mask off when the danger is high, just because you’re uncomfortable. Some of you might have a strong reaction to wearing a mask and having the suffocation feeling. You need to work through that, get used to it, train yourself that it’s okay.

You can’t be fiddling with the mask, or cheating by lifting it to get a breath of “fresh air.” If there’s really a virus danger the outside of the mask will have hundreds if not thousands of virus particles stuck to it and disturbing them will be a bad idea.
Don’t forget that this virus has proven itself to be extremely contagious (even contagious disease experts have gotten themselves infected!). And that the CDC has just recently agreed that asymptomatic carriers are a real thing. The people around you might have few mild symptoms or no symptoms at all, but still be able to spread the infection. You just won’t know.

The N-95 masks are simple, fairly foolproof (nothing is “foolproof” because fools are so clever), and effective. So when the time comes it’s a smart thing to use. Please don’t settle for anything less than a mask officially rated at N-95 or N-100.
Don’t wait until the last minute to have a mask supply, and don’t wait until the last minute to acclimate yourselves to the strangeness of wearing one!

Trust God. Be prepared. We can do both!
ShepherdFarmerGeek


*He makes very good points. If you have masks but you are not used to them and have never worked with one for an extended period of time you need to train with it. In the military we trained in our gear all the time and he makes a good point about feeling claustrophobic or a suffocating feeling if your not used to wearing a respirator N95 type mask. Take one and do some daily chores with it and try to wear it for an hour or two. It is something you have to get used to. HF
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
And another one;
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Introduction

Pathogenic organisms can be introduced into a veterinary clinic or animal housing facility through a variety of ways. For this reason, biological risk management (BRM) protocols are necessary to prevent, contain and eliminate the spread of disease. Disinfection protocols, when implemented correctly, can be a cost-effective means of reducing pathogenic organisms and are an important step in any biological risk management program. Prevention of disease is typically easier and more cost-effective than addressing an outbreak situation. Therefore, development and implementation of a step-by-step disinfection protocol for the control and prevention of infectious disease has become essential for farms and clinics.

Resource can be downloaded here:
 

Old Gray Mare

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This idea is out of the 1950's: cassarolls. They can easily be made out of shelf stable foods. It's an easy one dish meal. It's also a good way to use up leftovers so they don't go to waste.

Start with a cooked carbohydrate (dried pasta, dehydrated potatoes, rice or other grain)
Add a reconstituted can of condensed soup (creamed soups work well)
Add a can of appropriate canned meat.
Bake
 

mawmaw

Senior Member
OK got a question??? I have Fibro, so immune system sucks!! So take a lot of immune boosters, bought more with this virus. My question is IF I was to be infected with Kung Flu when do I stop taking these boosters so as not to cause the storms that could make things worse? TIA
 

Old Gray Mare

Has No Life - Lives on TB
No... it would be too heavy on sodium and lack the vital potassium. They don't sell "lite salt" anywhere where you are now? It's not expensive...

Summerthyme
For oral rehydration solution:

Found: No Salt (sodium free salt) at Walmart. First two ingredients: Potassium chloride and potassium bitartrate(cream of tartar)
 

cyberiot

Workin' the plan.
Whooo doggy!

If you have an InstantPot, you have an autoclave


Abstract
Laboratory science requires careful maintenance of sterile reagents and tools as well as the sterilization of waste prior to disposal. However, steam autoclaves typically used for this purpose may not be readily accessible to everyone in the scientific community, such as K-12 teachers, researchers in the field, students in under-funded laboratories, or persons in the developing world who lack funding and resources. This work examines the use of commercial electric pressure cookers as an alternative method for the sterilization of media, instruments, and waste. Four commonly available brands of pressure cooker were tested for their ability to sterilize microbiological media, a variety of metal instruments, and high-titer microbial cultures. All four pressure cookers were able to sterilize these starting materials as well as a range of microbial types, including Gram-positive bacteria, Gram-negative bacteria, filamentous fungi, unicellular fungi, and mixed environmental samples. Only the Instant Pot, however, was able to sterilize autoclave tester ampoules of Geobacillus stearothermophilus spores. These results suggest that, depending on the nature of the work undertaken, store-bought pressure cookers can be an appropriate substitute for commercial autoclaves. Their adoption may also help increase the accessibility of science to a broader range of investigators.

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More at the link. And lovely steamed veggies in the off-season. What's not to like?
 
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bluelady

Veteran Member
I like this woman's practical videos. This one is basic pandemic preps 101, including directions from China for a DIY mask. She says it isn't nearly as good as the N95. (Yeah, if a lot of Chinese are resorting to this, no wonder they're all sick!) She seems to (gently) target her videos mainly toward people who are clueless, so for those who end up with nothing when it's too late I guess it's something to consider.

Comments of course are all over the map.

13:26
View: https://youtu.be/awDbDBPjoQk
 

Zahra

Veteran Member
This idea is out of the 1950's: cassarolls. They can easily be made out of shelf stable foods. It's an easy one dish meal. It's also a good way to use up leftovers so they don't go to waste.

Start with a cooked carbohydrate (dried pasta, dehydrated potatoes, rice or other grain)
Add a reconstituted can of condensed soup (creamed soups work well)
Add a can of appropriate canned meat.
Bake
Casseroles are such good comfort foods and so versatile too. Since living alone now I never have them, so just thinking about them makes my mouth water. Add a hand full of peas into whatever you're making and you've got it covered! Yum!
 

Old Gray Mare

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Casseroles are such good comfort foods and so versatile too. Since living alone now I never have them, so just thinking about them makes my mouth water. Add a hand full of peas into whatever you're making and you've got it covered! Yum!
My favorite add to a casserole is to take some breadcrumbs, grated parmesan cheese and butter mix them together. Use the mix to top the casserole and then brown the top a little in the oven.
 

hammerhead

Veteran Member
I grew up eating casseroles. They're a great way to take some relatively inexpensive base such as rice and extend the heck out of it in a tasty way.
 
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psychgirl

Veteran Member
Mmm!! Casseroles!!

I literally make them up as I go sometimes lol!
No one ever knows the difference; any of those Campbell’s cream of mushroom or what have you will work! As long as it’s got some cheese, or potatoes in it with something crunchy on top and I’m GAME! :D
 

psychgirl

Veteran Member
By the way!! My elderberry order from Summerthyme artived this week and it’s DELICIOUS!!
I might need several gallons at this rate :whistle::D
 

TrueNorthNomads

Contributing Member
These are the preps I'm currently working on for my family - just in case:

talk to healthcare professional about appropriate care & treatment for family members
Get supplies needed to set up a sick/quarantine room
Make sure appropriate OTC medications and scripts are filled and in date
Have ready to eat or easy to prepare meals like canned soup in stock, flavored Jello
Some rehydration fluid or powders could be a good thing to have on hand (Pedialyte for nutrients and electrolytes, I also like: Emergen-C - no I don't buy stock in either company)
Paper towels, baby wipes, disposable plates and cups could come in handy
cleaning and sanitation supplies
Check medical equipment thermometer and BP cuff.
A supply of good old fashion tea

I may pick up some CURCUMIN. ainitfunny seems to set store by it.

I'm just a concerned Mom not a health care professional.
Here’s a comprehensive explanation of the difference between curcumin and turmeric (we use both daily):

Turmeric vs Curcumin: Which Should You Take?

Sláinte!

Kathy.
 

Old Gray Mare

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Just put in a call or to the fishermen in the family. Left a message for them to pick up extra belts, impellers, filters any parts needed for boat/vehicle maintenance. I told them it looked like trade with China is going to be disrupted and it might be a good idea to do a little stocking up.

No way could I twist their arms to stock up on food etc. but threaten their ability to fish? I bet they hit the marine store before the sun sets.
 

Dafodil

Veteran Member
I just tried to order a few things from Amazon...lots of holes!

365 Everyday Value, Electrolyte Enhanced Water, 16.9 Fl Oz .79 LIMIT 3
 

Dafodil

Veteran Member
Why don't we all discuss what possible herbs/home treatments we might be able to use? Here's my list, in no particular order. I would welcome feedback:

Resveratrol
Vitamin C
Green tea
Garlic capsules
St John's Wort
Skullcap tea
Quercin/bromelain
Curcumin/bioperine (I think Summertime said take this late in the infection)
Shiitake mushroom capsules
Mint tea
Careful again, taking blood thinners! St John's Wort I know affects INR's!
 

Dafodil

Veteran Member
Suggestions:

Remember to periodically sanitize commonly touched surfaces like doorknobs, handel on toilet, light switches, faucet handles, tables, counters, (if appropriate) chairs and cabinet handles, etc.

I'm going to sweetly ask family to let me wash clothing after one use. This means more work for me but if they bring something unwanted home on their clothes from work it hopefully it dies in the washer instead of hanging around in their bedrooms and getting an opportunity to pass something on to the family.

Shoes etc. have a home in the closet near the door so they don't track anything unwanted into the home.
cell phones and remotes for video games!
 

Dafodil

Veteran Member
Coronavirus and OTC cough meds

Saw a pharmacist and requested the strongest OTC expectorant they had and he suggested Robitussin DM. I ask what it would do for supportive care for the coronavirus. He said: "Noth...(there was a pregnant pause here that gave birth to another)...ing.". I could almost see his brain switch gears. He told me it wasn't strong enough. Nothing OTC was. He said: at that point I should talk to my doctor for something stronger.

I picked up the DM anyway. YMMV.
Mucinex in the 'green' box is a great for cold/congestion. Try and gather as much of your normal meds as possible! I'm heading to the bank today after yesterdays mess of a stock market, I expect round 2 on Monday!
 

Dafodil

Veteran Member
Correct, I agree. I take 5000 iu daily. Being in a northern climate we get less sun and spend less time outdoors. Interestingly Northern climates have a higher rate of cancer than southern where people get more exposure to sun light. The vitamin D pathway controls much in the human body. Good thing to take.
I use the Olly chewable Vitamin D 4000IU a day!
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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N-acetylcysteine might be very useful. It has some very interesting uses (including, rather bizarrely, as an enema to cure foals with severe meconium impaction!) It's a potent antioxidant, and expectorant.

Also, if you can find guaifenisen by itself (Mucinex is a brand name, but there are cheaper generics... I found packs of 12 in the Dollar Store), it's much better to take it thst way, rather than in the (IMHO, idiotic) "combination" products. Think of it this way... you are using it to liquify and loosen mucous that is clogging your respiratory tract. Once it is less sticky, you can cough it out. But they combine it with dextromethorpan, a potent cough suppressant!

We only use a cough suppressant on an unproductive cough, at night to allow sleep, or if the coughing is so violent that it's causing injury to the patient. If you are able to cough up crud, you *want to* Get as much out as possible.

I stocked up on smaller boxes of Kleenex, too, in case (God forbid) we end up with someone sick. I want everyone to have their own personal supplies... no sharing.

Summerthyme
 

psychgirl

Veteran Member
N-acetylcysteine might be very useful. It has some very interesting uses (including, rather bizarrely, as an enema to cure foals with severe meconium impaction!) It's a potent antioxidant, and expectorant.

Also, if you can find guaifenisen by itself (Mucinex is a brand name, but there are cheaper generics... I found packs of 12 in the Dollar Store), it's much better to take it thst way, rather than in the (IMHO, idiotic) "combination" products. Think of it this way... you are using it to liquify and loosen mucous that is clogging your respiratory tract. Once it is less sticky, you can cough it out. But they combine it with dextromethorpan, a potent cough suppressant!

We only use a cough suppressant on an unproductive cough, at night to allow sleep, or if the coughing is so violent that it's causing injury to the patient. If you are able to cough up crud, you *want to* Get as much out as possible.

I stocked up on smaller boxes of Kleenex, too, in case (God forbid) we end up with someone sick. I want everyone to have their own personal supplies... no sharing.

Summerthyme
You’re right! My Dr told me to get just the plain ordinary Mucinex.

But you “have” to drink a ton of water to wash it out or the junk you’re coughing up will just sit there in the lungs, and turn into a concrete like mess.
 

Old Gray Mare

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Tired, spent the afternoon making some grab and go homemade. Got a big package of ground pork. Made up precooked: Breakfast sausage patties, barbecue sausage patties, spicy pork patties, pork Italian meatballs, Italian sausage balls and plain cooked ground pork crumble.

I figure the precooked patties and meatballs can be used for quick sandwiches. The meatballs and ground pork can be added into sauces or casseroles. Well that's the plan. I'm going to see what other make aheads can be squiggied into the freezer.
 

Pinecone

Veteran Member
Sorry if this has already been covered. I figure it has, but I guess another post won't hurt.

Coronavirus prevention: How to make hand sanitizer at home
Today 3:36 PM


By Grant Butler | The Oregonian/OregonLive

As news broke over the weekend about Oregon’s first coronavirus case, frenzied shoppers stocked up on hand sanitizer, emptying many store shelves.

CORONAVIRUS IN OREGON: FULL COVERAGE

If you weren’t able to snap up a bottle of hand sanitizer before stores sold out, you can make your own. You find the basic ingredients in any drug store and most grocery stores.
Here’s what you need:
  • 2/3 cup Isopropyl alcohol 91% (rubbing alcohol)
  • 1/3 cup aloe vera gel
  • Essential oil in your choice of fragrance (optional)
  • A small or medium mixing bowl
  • A spoon
  • An empty container, such as a 3-ounce container from a travel toiletries kit
  • A small piece of masking tape for labeling
Here’s how to make it:
In a mixing bowl, stir Isopropyl alcohol and aloe vera gel together until well blended.

Add 8-10 drops of scented essential oil (optional, but nice!). Stir to incorporate.

Pour the homemade hand sanitizer into an empty container and seal. Write “hand sanitizer” on a piece of masking tape and affix to the bottle.

Note: This recipe creates hand sanitizer that contains 65% alcohol, above the 60% alcohol content that the CDC recommends.

Of course, hand sanitizer is the second-best way to keep your digits germ-free. The No. 1 way, according to the CDC, is to properly wash your hands.
 

psychgirl

Veteran Member
I think a way to make your own disinfectant wipes would be easy thing to do. Take a common box of baby wipes and soak them with alcohol.....I doubt those have been sold out in the stores.... yet.

OR, use some of those paper towels that tear away into smaller pieces and soak in alcohol. Put them into a container that has a airtight lid and you have something on hand to wipe up as you go.

I found an older container of Perixide wipes I bought from Kroger, that I never used and were unopened. Last night I checked and sure enough they were dried out. I just poured alcohol in there and reconstituted the whole bottle.

Automatic, tear away disinfectant wipes! Chlorox ones are great but we’re hearing reports those are sold out in places right? Just make yours own!
 

Illini Warrior

Veteran Member
I think a way to make your own disinfectant wipes would be easy thing to do. Take a common box of baby wipes and soak them with alcohol.....I doubt those have been sold out in the stores.... yet.

OR, use some of those paper towels that tear away into smaller pieces and soak in alcohol. Put them into a container that has a airtight lid and you have something on hand to wipe up as you go.

I found an older container of Perixide wipes I bought from Kroger, that I never used and were unopened. Last night I checked and sure enough they were dried out. I just poured alcohol in there and reconstituted the whole bottle.

Automatic, tear away disinfectant wipes! Chlorox ones are great but we’re hearing reports those are sold out in places right? Just make yours own!
you can buy the replacement packages of baby wipes without the plastic container - just put the wipes in a Tupperware container and pour on the alcohol - the Tupperware keeps the wipes from drying out as fast ...
 

kyrsyan

Veteran Member
I buy the generic guaifenesin bulk at Sam's or Costco. Mucinex is time release but I can handle that. I can't handle cough suppressant.
I'm already using sets of microfiber wipes to make peroxide and alcohol wipes. I just roll them amd put them in old, rinsed out, Clorox wipe containers. Then pour a cup of either over the top.
I'm debating cutting some down and doing the same with betadine.
I may grab some baby wipes and make some disposable sets as well.
 

Cyclonemom

Veteran Member
And another one;
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Introduction

Pathogenic organisms can be introduced into a veterinary clinic or animal housing facility through a variety of ways. For this reason, biological risk management (BRM) protocols are necessary to prevent, contain and eliminate the spread of disease. Disinfection protocols, when implemented correctly, can be a cost-effective means of reducing pathogenic organisms and are an important step in any biological risk management program. Prevention of disease is typically easier and more cost-effective than addressing an outbreak situation. Therefore, development and implementation of a step-by-step disinfection protocol for the control and prevention of infectious disease has become essential for farms and clinics.

Resource can be downloaded here:
Too bad all vet supplies of gloves, masks, and disinfectants are drying up from the main suppliers.

We also can't get lab supplies for in house lab work.

We see zoonotic diseases frequently. This could go downhill quickly.
 

trek2001

Contributing Member
I went to the dentist yesterday. I asked about what protocol she was using for the virus. She told me masks where getting hard to get and there was a limit. She also said there is some talk about limits on anesthesia.
 

bluelady

Veteran Member
I buy the generic guaifenesin bulk at Sam's or Costco. Mucinex is time release but I can handle that. I can't handle cough suppressant.
I'm already using sets of microfiber wipes to make peroxide and alcohol wipes. I just roll them amd put them in old, rinsed out, Clorox wipe containers. Then pour a cup of either over the top.
I'm debating cutting some down and doing the same with betadine.
I may grab some baby wipes and make some disposable sets as well.
I used to make baby wipes out of paper towels. Take out the tube, cut the roll in half, put it in Tupperware, pour a solution over it, pull wipes out from the middle. I used the oooold Tupperware canisters (orange, green, yellow) which were the right height; you'd have to experiment with something to fit that has a tight cover.
 

txs

Contributing Member
There is an old thread on tb that involved board members eating yeast and not getting various viri, anyone remember what the title was? And if it would be protection for cv.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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There is an old thread on tb that involved board members eating yeast and not getting various viri, anyone remember what the title was? And if it would be protection for cv.
Shane started it. It's Diamond XPC, I believe. If you do a search using "yeast" and "immune" with Shane as the posted, it should come up.

Summerthyme
 

Old Gray Mare

Has No Life - Lives on TB
In next few days we are headed to the accountant's office. Tax collections don't stop for pandemics. I'm also planning a quick trip to the hardware store to pick up bits and bobs needed for fixing things on the Honey Do list. If we're going to be stuck inside for extended periods it will be something productive to do.

I'm also looking at the little food storage we have in terms of number of meals and not just pounds of rice/pasta and beans. I've added shelf safe gravies and sauces to the list and food storage. I'm worried about food fatigue. Thinking even some of those cheap powdered Mccormick packets could help. Number of spices in the kitchen are fewer than I used to have but heavy on those I use a lot and they are fresh.
 

Old Gray Mare

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It's not canning season and I'm trying to rebuild our preps from mostly store bought on a budget.

For fruit I've picked up some dried and canned from Costco and Sam's. My plan for the big cans of pears and peaches in syrup is to put any fruit left over after opening in glass jars, add brandy to them and refrigerate. I've never had brandied fruit go bad.

To get a variety of fruit I'm also buying in baby food containers (glass if possible) and commercially canned pie filling. I posted before that I hope the small baby food sized servings will encourage anyone in house with the flu, CV or whatever to eat with minimum waste. The pie filling I suspect will make a quick easy ready to eat dessert, garnish or side dish. So far I've picked up Apple and cherry and hope to get more.
 

psychgirl

Veteran Member
In next few days we are headed to the accountant's office. Tax collections don't stop for pandemics. I'm also planning a quick trip to the hardware store to pick up bits and bobs needed for fixing things on the Honey Do list. If we're going to be stuck inside for extended periods it will be something productive to do.

I'm also looking at the little food storage we have in terms of number of meals and not just pounds of rice/pasta and beans. I've added shelf safe gravies and sauces to the list and food storage. I'm worried about food fatigue. Thinking even some of those cheap powdered Mccormick packets could help. Number of spices in the kitchen are fewer than I used to have but heavy on those I use a lot and they are fresh.
Do you all have enough???
Your statement worries me! I swear I’m going to worry about too many people lol!
 
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