WEATHER Official Hurricane Irma Thread- Woo Free

TerryK

TB Fanatic
If you're not running your electronics through an inverter you're taking a risk of them being fried.

Generators like yours don't put out "clean" power and it can damage sensitive devices.

Actually sine wave output of generator measured with old Navy Oscope looks pretty good and clean. Small changes in freq with varying loads but nothing serious.
Now if you want to see bad, look at the output of an old harbor freight inverter with a modified sine wave output... Nothing but a series of varying amplitude square waves that approximate a sinewave by varying the amplitude of the square wave.

On another note, still no power restored in the area.
Note to self: next time buy several window AC units instead of the portable roll around unit.

Roll around unit is 10,000 BTU but a PITA to hook up with the warm air exhaust hose and condensate hose. Window units are quicker and easier to temporarily install wherever you need them.

Interesting fact if anyone uses tricare and express scripts for prescriptions.
Express Scripts is supposed to check the weather forecast for the destination before shipping temperature sensitive medications ie Insulin.
Got a Styrofoam box with melted icepacks inside and insulin that was literally hot to the touch after over 5 days in route due to Irma.
No problems, just made sure I was doing low carb and blood sugars stayed in normal range. A type I diabetic would have been in serious trouble though.

Most stores are open, but ironically the local Home Depot is still on emergency generator that barely powers the lights leaving the store dark and damp.
A few fast food joints are only accepting cash.
Gas lines are now pretty short and most places have no lines at all.
It's entertaining listening to the radio and hearing all the people bitch and complain about why they aren't first in line getting power restored and how it's all a conspiracy depending on your political connections. :lol:

Went to Walmart yesterday and all the produce and freezer stuff was gone, as in probably spoiled and thrown away. In the fruit and veggie area they had lemons and peaches, with the peaches rapidly getting softer. Weird seeing all the empty space.

Interesting observation is that a lot of people end up sleeping on their back porch or
in their cars if they don't have AC or don't run their generator all night.
Concrete houses heat up during the day with temps in the 90s and heat indexes around a hundred or more. Even when the outside temp drops down into the upper 70s at night, the houses still act like an oven with all the stored heat. Many people complaining their houses never cool down to outside temperatures and it's too hot to sleep. They go in their cars after taking a cold shower and run the car and AC for 10 minutes, turn everything off, and sleep comfortably the rest of the night at a cool 77 degrees or so.

No crime to speak of in my area. Many people have their generators in their driveway in front of their homes with no security chains etc and no one seems to bother them. But then our subdivision has only one entrance/exit and is walled, but with no gate.

The fly by night out of state contractors have already started making appearances with roof repair offers. (no cost to you and they work with your insurance company) :shk:
We also had people pay to have someone haul away debris when the county will be hauling it away for free as long as you pile it curbside.

We've had more deaths from carbon monoxide poisoning from generators than any other problem here in central Florida.
Couple of families and in one case a 7 year old girl killed by CO. One idiot even operated a small generator in their house :shk:
The others were in their garages with the door open or under a covered porch. :shk:
Put you damn generator at least 20 feet from your house!

Water pressure is about 2/3 normal and a few places had boil water notices, but water never was much of problem during or immediately after Irma. However I did just get a call from the county automated notice system to conserve water because their pumping system was not fully up yet.

Some people in low lying areas are also having sewage issues because of pumping stations with no power. Lot of people don't understand that when one person flushes their toilet and the pumping station isn't working, the extra sewer stuff backs up in the lowest lying homes. :shkr:
I have no worries there because we aren't in a low lying area, and I have a septic tank instead of a sewer connection.

Anyway that's the status from Irma land in the Orlando area.
 
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NC Susan

Deceased
http://www.fayobserver.com/news/20170914/fema-freezes-public-assistance-funding-for-matthew-relief

FEMA Freezes Public Assistance Funding for NC Hurricane Mathew
By Michael Futch
Staff writer


Sep 14, 2017

State officials announced Thursday that FEMA has frozen money from its Public Assistance and Hazard Mitigation Grant programs for those municipalities and counties impacted by Hurricane Matthew.

The decision was made due to the more immediate needs of victims from Hurricanes Harvey and Irma, the Governor’s Office said in a news release.

That means the approximately $134.5 million in funding eligible in the Public Assistance program for the state’s ongoing recovery from Matthew is suspended until further notice from the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Of that amount, $67.4 million for 213 local governments Public Assistance projects “are directly impacted.”

The affected categories include roads, bridges, water control facilities, buildings, equipment, utilities, and parks and recreation.

Hurricane Matthew slammed into the state on Oct. 8, causing severe damage and widespread flooding in some areas, including parts of Robeson and Cumberland counties.

“Unfortunately, FEMA has suspended payments to North Carolina communities while it handles immediate needs from this year’s hurricanes,” a spokeswoman for Gov. Roy Cooper said in a separate email. “Everyone in North Carolina is praying for the victims of Harvey and Irma, but as we know from Matthew, storms like these take years to recover from. Governor Cooper is working with our state’s members of Congress and FEMA to get the money we were promised for Matthew recovery because we can’t walk away before the job is done.”

Because of Hurricanes Harvey and Irma, the funding needs to FEMA have changed significantly in the last few weeks. That’s the driving force behind FEMA’s suspension of the Hurricane Matthew assistance, according to a spokeswoman with N.C. Emergency Management.

U.S. Sen. Thom Tillis hopes that Congress continues to look at ways to provide support for any state affected by natural disasters, including the forest fires raging out West, his office said. ”... He will continue to communicate with appropriators about the needs of North Carolina and will continue to monitor FEMA’s actions.

“North Carolina still has long-term needs,” his office said in an email, “but the victims of Harvey and Irma need immediate help right now. When that need turns into recovery, like what North Carolina is currently going through, Sen. Tillis hopes there will be an opportunity to have a conversation about North Carolina’s outstanding needs.”


An email requesting comment from U.S. Sen. Richard Burr was not immediately returned Thursday.

Fayetteville Mayor Nat Robertson said Thursday that city staff had met with representatives of Cooper’s office and FEMA earlier in the day.

“The impact is going to be minimal,” he said. “What is at risk is $4 1/2 million in hazard mitigation money. We were told that it’s just on hold about 60 days. By the first of the year, hopefully, that money is released and we’ll be ready to go. The news didn’t sound good, but we were one of the first communities to advance (and request) help.”

The $4 1/2 million, the mayor said, is money the city needs for buying and reconstructing property. Mitigation money, Robertson said, for houses with extensive flooding damage from the storm.

“We’re where we need to be,” he said of Fayetteville’s post-Matthew FEMA funding needs.

The Public Assistance program is a reimbursable program, the Governor’s Office said. That means many towns and cities across the state that incurred eligible costs in responding to Hurricane Matthew will not be reimbursed with federal funds until the Disaster Relief Fund is replenished and Immediate Needs Funding is lifted.



“We appreciate that urgent effects will be felt resulting from the freezing of the Public Assistance program,” the news release said.


Jimmy Keefe, a member of the Cumberland County Board of Commissioners, said nearly $35 million in FEMA-related funding was anticipated for the combined county and city of Fayetteville.

The county and city held public hearings on the proposed use of that money, Keefe said, with “a lot of it” designated for community development.

“I feel for the people having difficult times in Florida and Texas, also,” Keefe said. “And I think we certainly could have used that funding for flood mitigation here. That would have been a real asset.”

Joe Stanton, the assistant director for recovery with N.C. Emergency Management, said if a repair project is obligated, the money has been deposited by the federal government.

“We can draw it down as a project being completed,” he said. “If a project is being reviewed or looked at in certain areas, it (the funding) may be held up until the Disaster (Relief) Fund is replenished or such time Congress allows for additional funds.”

This would not mark the first time the Disaster Relief Fund has been suspended before requiring replenishment, according to Stanton. It has happened before, he added, and the federal government stepped up and replenished the fund.

“And when that happened,” he said, “FEMA started making payments again. It happened in (Hurricane) Sandy and some other disasters, as well. Usually, it’s very short term. Usually, it doesn’t drag out long. It affects all the states that have open disasters — that are in recovery of disasters.”


As of mid-afternoon, Stephanie Chavis, the director of Emergency Services for Robeson County, said she had not received notice of the freezing of the Public Assistance program’s funding in the state.

“The need was there,” she said, referring to those financial decisions made when government officials on the local, state and federal levels convened for meetings in Robeson County in the aftermath of Hurricane Matthew. “If the money is not there, the need won’t be met.”

As far as the county’s Emergency Management, Chavis said, “We’ll probably feel some of the effects from it. I don’t think it will be as detrimental to us as those folks displaced during Hurricane Matthew.”

In her nearly 29 years with Emergency Management, she said, she doesn’t “recall things ever being done this way.”

Staff writer Michael Futch can be reached at mfutch@fayobserver.com or 486-3529.
 
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EYW

Veteran Member
Taken from a facebook post:

Please be nice to post-hurricane people. For the last week, we feel like we have packed, moved, camped, built a house, done major relandscaping, spent money on stupid bunker food, and found new ways of cheating death, all the while being told we might die very, very soon. We haven't slept. During this time, everyone in other states calls, messages, and texts with helpful advice that we knew already��. Some lost income and some were robbed, or worse. The low pressure gave us headaches. Also, our kids have been out of school for DAYS and looking at us like we are insane. Our pets are dazed and confused. Tread lightly. We are one taco short of a combination plate and it's...Monday? Tuesday? What day IS it?

The bolded part is so true. Advice from people who have never been in a hurricane but hear all the advice from the media. I finally made my husband turn his phone off at night so we could sleep here at the hotel; his sister kept messaging and calling. She is six hours ahead of us (Denmark). I understand her worry, but fercrissakes, give us a break. We evacuated, we are safe, c'mon.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Glad you made it thru ok Terry. I know your currently an atheist but you'll forgive me if I wish you and yours a hearty Godspeed! Prepping works and I'm glad you were ready.

Take care,

Doug
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Glad you made it thru ok Terry. I know your currently an atheist but you'll forgive me if I wish you and yours a hearty Godspeed! Prepping works and I'm glad you were ready.

Take care,

Doug

Thank you. Well wishes and prayers can never hurt and only help.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
On the news. Florida citrus crop 75 to 80% destroyed. Get your OJ while you can.
They are also saying the southeast pecan crop is over 50% gone.
 

Suzieq

Veteran Member
On the news. Florida citrus crop 75 to 80% destroyed. Get your OJ while you can.
They are also saying the southeast pecan crop is over 50% gone.

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So sad to see the fruit on the ground! :bwl:

. . . It took a direct hit from the storm. "The eyewall came right over our main production area," McAvoy says.

The groves of orange and grapefruit were approaching harvest. But after Irma blew through, it left "50 or 60 percent of the fruit lying in water [or] on the ground," says McAvoy. Many trees were standing in water, a mortal danger if their roots stay submerged for longer than three or four days.

About a quarter of the country's sugar production comes from fields of sugar cane near Lake Okeechobee, east of LaBelle. Harvest season for the sugar cane crop is only a few weeks away, but Irma knocked much of the cane down, making it more difficult to harvest. "We won't know the exact extent of the loss until it's harvested," McAvoy says.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...-at-irmas-damage-probably-the-worst-weve-seen
 

It'sJustMe

Deceased
We finally made it back. Gas shortages, and heavy traffic, and then a swollen river upstream held us back. Had to travel to New Orleans to find a room the first night. Spent 2 nights there, and then started making our way back. Got to Biloxi for several nights, and then we had planned on stopping in Pensacola. But we got word that roads were going to be closed due to river flooding near Gainesville, so we powered on him down here, to the SW. Homes 3 mi from us are still flooded but we are on high enough ground, that we don't have water issues here. Our home went unscathed. Our neighbors were wonderful and kept us informed while we were gone. It is SO good to be home. Just enjoyed the best shower of my life! That bed will feel so good tonight. I need to find the check in thread, to see if everyone is back home safely. Thanks for all of of your prayers everyone! Smiles! :rs:
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
We finally made it back. Gas shortages, and heavy traffic, and then a swollen river upstream held us back. Had to travel to New Orleans to find a room the first night. Spent 2 nights there, and then started making our way back. Got to Biloxi for several nights, and then we had planned on stopping in Pensacola. But we got word that roads were going to be closed due to river flooding near Gainesville, so we powered on him down here, to the SW. Homes 3 mi from us are still flooded but we are on high enough ground, that we don't have water issues here. Our home went unscathed. Our neighbors were wonderful and kept us informed while we were gone. It is SO good to be home. Just enjoyed the best shower of my life! That bed will feel so good tonight. I need to find the check in thread, to see if everyone is back home safely. Thanks for all of of your prayers everyone! Smiles! :rs:

Glad to hear it worked for you. The few who come out ok are like a ray of sunshine.
 
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