USA Obese Woman Dragged From Home, Hauled Away After Death (As Family Watched)
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Navydad
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I am with you if a more convenient closed conveyance was available. I guess a U Haul truck would have worked.
First I have never seen a 750 pound human male or female although I don't doubt they exist.
Second, How did she find a boyfriend?
Third, Did said boyfriend supply the carpet? I am just guessing but the cops and or coroner probably asked him for something to cover her.
Fourth, Why didn't the boyfriend remove the child from the home upon the death of the woman?
Fifth, Is is not possible that a former employee would be critical of his former employer?
Too many questions too few answers. As Sat would say tastes like chicken.
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Ender
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That's pop health, intothegoodnight. The health industry has no real knowledge of what is healthy and what is not; it just exists to keep one sick so that more money can be made.
For instance, cabbage puts weight on Blood Type O's. CABBAGE. Almost no calories in cabbage. How does that fit with pop health?
It doesn't.
knickgnat
Veteran Member
Because of her weight, and the fact that it was "dead weight", there was no graceful way to remove the body. I tried moving my mother who only weighed 110 pounds after she collapsed and was unconcious, I couldn't. I could only drag her to a safe area. Moving 750 pounds of anything requires help.
The adults in charge, if there were any, should have taken the son somewhere where he couldn't see the removal. One of them could also have gotten something to cover her with as well. They let others clean up the mess but doesn't appear they offered any help.
Must have been a very strange family dynamic, morbidly obese woman most likely living with the boyfriend and a 13 year old child in the middle.
Not wild about how the coroner moved the body but think the dirty carpet was very disrespectful and humiliating for everyone including the deceased.
The adults in charge, if there were any, should have taken the son somewhere where he couldn't see the removal. One of them could also have gotten something to cover her with as well. They let others clean up the mess but doesn't appear they offered any help.
Must have been a very strange family dynamic, morbidly obese woman most likely living with the boyfriend and a 13 year old child in the middle.
Not wild about how the coroner moved the body but think the dirty carpet was very disrespectful and humiliating for everyone including the deceased.
bev
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I wish these people who continue to gain weight to the point of gross, disgusting, morbid obesity, would take a minute to think about the people who will ultimately have to care for them!
How many people did it take to remove this lady's body from her home? To put her in/on the truck? To remove her from the truck and get her into the coroner's office? And how many will be needed to bury her?
Prior to her death, how many did it take to bathe her, turn her, wipe her butt, and dress her?
And how many of THOSE people hurt their backs or other body parts just trying to HELP????
I had a patient just a few weeks ago admitted to my floor from the ED in respiratory distress. About 450 pounds. She couldn't get herself off the stretcher or onto the bed because she couldn't breathe. She didn't want to lie down so we could use a sliding board to get her into the bed because she couldn't breathe lying down. What were we to do?
We ended up lying her down and transferring her - in those few seconds her O2 Sat dropped to 63.
Then she had to pee
Seriously, they need to think about consequences, rather than just their next box of Twinkies.
How many people did it take to remove this lady's body from her home? To put her in/on the truck? To remove her from the truck and get her into the coroner's office? And how many will be needed to bury her?
Prior to her death, how many did it take to bathe her, turn her, wipe her butt, and dress her?
And how many of THOSE people hurt their backs or other body parts just trying to HELP????
I had a patient just a few weeks ago admitted to my floor from the ED in respiratory distress. About 450 pounds. She couldn't get herself off the stretcher or onto the bed because she couldn't breathe. She didn't want to lie down so we could use a sliding board to get her into the bed because she couldn't breathe lying down. What were we to do?
We ended up lying her down and transferring her - in those few seconds her O2 Sat dropped to 63.
Then she had to pee
Seriously, they need to think about consequences, rather than just their next box of Twinkies.
Sometimes things just aint pretty. You try to handle things giving the decedent as much dignity as possible but in the end you gotta do what you gotta do. We ALWAYS ask the family to leave the area when we remove bodies because seeing a loved one zipped in to a body bag or removed in any way freaks people out no matter how gently you do it. The last one that I had that was nearly this large was handled by taking a circular say and removing a huge section of wall of a mobile home (more of a travel trailer really) and then pulling a forklift up and rolling the decedent on to a pallet - it sounds inhumane but the decomp was pretty bad. We blocked the view as good as we could with large fire trucks.
I'm not making light of the situation; both of these people were loved by someone. Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do to get the job done.
I'm not making light of the situation; both of these people were loved by someone. Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do to get the job done.
Flippper
Time Traveler
Bodies seem to defy physics when weight is concerned. Thyroid conditions will do crazy things, as will adrenal issues. I was on a raw food diet for some time last summer, no milk, no sugar, nothing cooked, only raw vegetables for the first week, then raw fruit was added the second week. The other two on the diet with me lost 8 to 10 lbs the first week, 6-8 the second, third and fourth weeks. I gained. And gained. And gained. We were eating well under 1000 calories a day. Four months later they looked great (neither had that much to lose), and I had to buy new clothes because I went UP one size, and it wasn't muscle.
My doctor told me about an obese patient who insisted she didn't eat that much; he was certain she was lying. At some point she is hospitalized and her food was closely monitored. They had her on a severely restricted caloric intake, and she was gaining weight on 300 calories a day. That's the equivalent of half a potato for an entire day's food consumption. He was floored and better understood what a screwed up thyroid can do to destroy people's lives. In spite of her size she was very malnourished.
Soy (and cruciferous vegetables to a lesser degree) inhibit thyroid function. Stress causes adrneal burnout. Stressed adrenals will ignore thyroid hormones and create hypothyroid symptoms, as well as refuse sex hormones into cells giving the appearance of early menopause along with the weight gain typical of that condition.
The estrogens in the above article are not just "estrogens" they are called xeno-estrogens. There is a huge difference between natural estrogen and xeno-estrogens, it's a shame the author didn't explain that. Too much estrogen and progesterone will cause weight gain as will too little of both. One doesn't have to change their diet or habits, and the weight will pile on, in fact, exercise and diet are usually uneffective methods of weight loss if your hormones are buggered up, and it's estimated that 50% of Americans have undiagnosed low thyroid, and up to 70% have adrenal issues which result in burnout and weight gain. 24 hour saliva tests are best to determine adrenal levels.
Fluoride will also ruin thyroid function, as can whiplash, neck injuries, x-rays or radiation.
Also, once the body has low metabolic rates from compromised adrenals or thyroid, it seems to go into self destruct mode. The person will usually crave carbs and sugar, be exhausted without exercise so movement is extremely difficult if not impossible, and the system becomes a fat storage machine. A lot is working against people with these issues, and almost all very obese people I know eat far less calories per day than skinny people. I instantly suspect hormone imbalance, which most doctors are ignorant of, unfortunately.
If anyone would like to read more on adrenal/thyroid problems and fixes, a good place to start is www.sttm.com. I think it should be required reading for all medical people.
As to the article, I don't have a problem with the people utilizing whatever tools they had at hand to remove Ms. Smith's body, throwing a carpet, clean or dirty, over the body was disgusting. I'm not sure why they used the flatbed when normal protocol was to use an ambulance equipped for such situations.
I am always reminded of my stepdad in stories like this. I was a chunky kid but ate normally really. My stepdad was always skinny as a rail. He started his day with either packaged donuts or a sticky bun, along with a coffee with a lot of sugar. At night he would get seconds for dinner and then sit in front of the tv and eat an entire half gallon of ice cream. He was always snacking on Snickers and drinking Pepsi. He was always skinny.
If I ate like him for a week I would gain 10 pounds. However knowing that I gain easily I have been able to control it by avoiding sugars and simple carbs. Haven't had a soda in years. Some people are just able to eat anything and others aren't. Who knows why.
On the flip side, if I work out and eat right I gain muscle like a freak. My stepbrother can work out and eat tons of protein and hardly gains any muscle. I guess I gain easily either way, muscle or fat depending on my diet and exercise regime. My stepdad and stepbrother have a hard time gaining either fat or muscle.
BigBadBossyDog
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Hansa44
Justine Case
This basically happened to me many years ago. I was quite a bit overweight and was put on a 700 calorie diet. I had a severe case of colitus so the doctor put me in the hospital on a totally soft foods diet. Jello, toast, and I forgot the rest. It did not help and in fact I was gaining weight. The doctors finally sent me home after 2 weeks and said I might have to have part of my intestines removed.
It was Thanksgiving. I was still eating soft foods which were also pure carbs. I decided to eat a little turkey. The colitus stopped immediately. I tried pure proteins. No more problems.
A few years later I tried the Atkins diet. Almost straight protein and veggies. Lost 4 to 5# a week and felt wonderful. I ended up losing over a 100# and to this day I do my absolute best on high protein.
Calories don't matter in my case. At 700 a day of carbs I gained weight. At 2500 calories a day of mostly protein I lost weight and never felt better. (I did take quite a few vitamins)
bev
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Flipper, are you sure about that website???
intothatgoodnight
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Flippper,
Interesting commentary -- was aware of thyroid malfunction vs body weight issues -- however, what is the SCIENCE behind how a human body is able to GAIN weight when lesser calories are consumed than would otherwise be considered necessary for maintaining a given normal body weight?
Calories are calories -- food items are represented in any one of three forms -- protein, carbohydrates, and fats -- all of which have a certain, measurable, known energy/caloric value. The human body can turn EXCESS calories into body fat, as a form of energy storage, to be retrieved at some future time as the body requires the fat-fuel -- key word -- EXCESS calories over what is required for the body to maintain normal weight.
'Splain it to me . . .
intothegoodnight
Interesting commentary -- was aware of thyroid malfunction vs body weight issues -- however, what is the SCIENCE behind how a human body is able to GAIN weight when lesser calories are consumed than would otherwise be considered necessary for maintaining a given normal body weight?
Calories are calories -- food items are represented in any one of three forms -- protein, carbohydrates, and fats -- all of which have a certain, measurable, known energy/caloric value. The human body can turn EXCESS calories into body fat, as a form of energy storage, to be retrieved at some future time as the body requires the fat-fuel -- key word -- EXCESS calories over what is required for the body to maintain normal weight.
'Splain it to me . . .
intothegoodnight
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Fisher
Has No Life - Lives on TB
bev,
Try this link.
Flipper can verify, but this should be the same website.
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/
Fisher
VesperSparrow
Goin' where the lonely go
Good question...
maybe I should quit work, get real fat, then I too can get a boyfriend who can roll me over and drag me around on some carpet one day...
woohoo!!!!
Ain't gotta work no more either!!!
Who knew it would be so easy....
kytom
escapee from reality
ill second that but, look at how people have become. cruel and inhuman.
TA12SEC
Senior Member
I used to work for a large ambulance company. It was rutine to to have to remove large people from their homes. for treatment or upon their passing.
Normal procedure was to cut out a section of wal and use a sling and a tow truck to remove them from the building. Theres just not alot ways you can move 750 lbs of person. You would need at least 10 people to do it and its hard to get 10 people into an area and fit the 750lb person.
We had a special ambulance for those situations.
Once the patiant was out side they were placed on a large cloth tarp.
Then the truck had a large ramp placed up the back. In side there was a electric atv winch that was used to pull them up into the truck.
Not how I would like to have be moved. But you have to make tough decisions in tough situations.
Normal procedure was to cut out a section of wal and use a sling and a tow truck to remove them from the building. Theres just not alot ways you can move 750 lbs of person. You would need at least 10 people to do it and its hard to get 10 people into an area and fit the 750lb person.
We had a special ambulance for those situations.
Once the patiant was out side they were placed on a large cloth tarp.
Then the truck had a large ramp placed up the back. In side there was a electric atv winch that was used to pull them up into the truck.
Not how I would like to have be moved. But you have to make tough decisions in tough situations.
amazon
Veteran Member
I think a great many of the responses on this thread are cruel and inhuman. No empathy. Everyone thinks no matter what kind of lot they're handed in life they would make the right choices and be just fine. You have no idea what kind of life this woman led. Maybe she just loved to eat and found some enablers to help her. Maybe she had lifelong endocrine issues. Maybe she had severe mental health issures r/t abuse. We don't know. What we do know is, here's a fat woman...it's perfectly acceptable to say whatever you want about her. Doesn't matter what kind of person she was...doesn't matter if she donated to charity or was kind and loving....she was fat and that cancels everything else out. Lovely world we live in.
I have never seen someone that big. I have cared for patients 400lbs+. They are very difficult to care for. No doubt it would have been very difficult to move her body. Maybe they did the best they could. I just think something better than a carpet could have been used to cover her. Obviously, someone should have taken the child away. I'm sure he learned a valuable lesson you here on the board will appreciate. "Don't get fat or you'll get treated like a dog." Maybe you can all feel good that the child probably won't get fat. Surely he's learned his lesson from his mother.
The incredible amount of self-righteousness on this thread is disgusting. You do not know what you would do if placed in a different life w/ completely different circumstances and metabolism, though no doubt you think you do. No one would choose to live that way. Anyone who can get that obese has addiction and/or metabolic problems. I have sympathy for people w/ addictions as I know how difficult it can be. Especially if you don't have the right kind of support. Some people are strong enough not to need support, but a great many people cannot make it out of that darkness w/out a great deal of support. Obviously this woman did not receive the right kind of support. Equally obvious is the fact that she was not strong enough on her own to overcome her problems.
So we have a weak, probably poor, obese woman. Don't waste tax money on her! Good grief no! We need that $$ to study why pig shit stinks or to give some corporate fatcat a bailout..or maybe to abort some babies overseas....No tax payer $$ is never wasted. It should certainly NOT be used to try and preserve dignity for those least deserving of it ...the poor...the weak...the obese....
I pay taxes and I'd damn well rather see it spent preserving some human dignity than any of the other things I've listed plus thousands more.
I have to go edcuate my child. I'll be sure to let her know not to get fat.
I have never seen someone that big. I have cared for patients 400lbs+. They are very difficult to care for. No doubt it would have been very difficult to move her body. Maybe they did the best they could. I just think something better than a carpet could have been used to cover her. Obviously, someone should have taken the child away. I'm sure he learned a valuable lesson you here on the board will appreciate. "Don't get fat or you'll get treated like a dog." Maybe you can all feel good that the child probably won't get fat. Surely he's learned his lesson from his mother.
The incredible amount of self-righteousness on this thread is disgusting. You do not know what you would do if placed in a different life w/ completely different circumstances and metabolism, though no doubt you think you do. No one would choose to live that way. Anyone who can get that obese has addiction and/or metabolic problems. I have sympathy for people w/ addictions as I know how difficult it can be. Especially if you don't have the right kind of support. Some people are strong enough not to need support, but a great many people cannot make it out of that darkness w/out a great deal of support. Obviously this woman did not receive the right kind of support. Equally obvious is the fact that she was not strong enough on her own to overcome her problems.
So we have a weak, probably poor, obese woman. Don't waste tax money on her! Good grief no! We need that $$ to study why pig shit stinks or to give some corporate fatcat a bailout..or maybe to abort some babies overseas....No tax payer $$ is never wasted. It should certainly NOT be used to try and preserve dignity for those least deserving of it ...the poor...the weak...the obese....
I pay taxes and I'd damn well rather see it spent preserving some human dignity than any of the other things I've listed plus thousands more.
I have to go edcuate my child. I'll be sure to let her know not to get fat.
brandyh29
Inactive
I know for a fact that thyroid issues can cause weight gain. My grandma is very obese, and its from health/thyroid problems. She doesnt sit and eat all day. And it pisses me off when people make fun of her and assume she sits and eats all day. And on the flip side of the coin, I eat alot. I eat alot of fast food & junk (chips, energy drinks, cookies etc), and I weigh 103 lbs. You can't judge by looking at someone what their eating habits are.
gcsdls
Thread-killer...see?
Usually Curious
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Is that legal? I would have seriously considered suing for damages.
And the boyfriend said putting on her on the flatbed was like putting a cow up there? You think?
Do you really think it was more traumatizing for her 13yo son to see her hauled out on a mattress than to see her lying around all day, every day, being fed the amount of food she required? I doubt it.
Copter Doctor
Inactive
+1
Watched a TV show Tuesday evening about three 1000 pounders getting stomachs banded. One at 700+ pounds was SIXTEEN years old. EMS had to remove a wall to get one fellow out of his room. Special equipment, lots of help, firemen, EMS. Bottom line, a 750 pounder eats 30,000 calories a week just to maintain that weight. WOW! Talk about enablers.
Josie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I wasn't there so I really don't feel comfortable forming an opinion on this. There have been way too many "news" stories lately where a little too much license has been taken in the writing, trying to make that sensational headline to sell the story.
"That was like putting a cow up there." Well, since a typical cow weighs around 1200 lbs., not quite but maybe a calf! Seriously, at about 750 lbs., that would have been quite a struggle...escpecially if it was dead weight.
One of the neighbors claims that they threw an old, dirty rug over her. Well, I doubt there was a body bag large enough for her to fit into. And did the neighbor get close enough to actually see if it really was an old, dirty rug? Or was he/she just guessing?
And never having been inside an ambulance, I don't have any idea of how much room is in there. But from what I gather on teevee, there ain't a whole lot. If they could have gotten a gurney capable of carrying her, would she have acually fit? I dunno. I'm only askin'.
How much more degrading would it have been to get the woman halfway in and then she's stuck. What if you can't get her out? Once again. I dunno if that would have happened...just thinking out loud. I doubt if she would have fit into the back of a herse, so where exactly does that leave ya?
It is sad that her 13 yo son had to see this but how much more hurtful was it for him to watch his mother kill herself a little more each day with more and more food? If she had a medical problem, it looks as if it wasn't being taken care of. Sounds to me as if the boyfriend was enabling whatever was the root cause.
"That was like putting a cow up there." Well, since a typical cow weighs around 1200 lbs., not quite but maybe a calf! Seriously, at about 750 lbs., that would have been quite a struggle...escpecially if it was dead weight.
One of the neighbors claims that they threw an old, dirty rug over her. Well, I doubt there was a body bag large enough for her to fit into. And did the neighbor get close enough to actually see if it really was an old, dirty rug? Or was he/she just guessing?
And never having been inside an ambulance, I don't have any idea of how much room is in there. But from what I gather on teevee, there ain't a whole lot. If they could have gotten a gurney capable of carrying her, would she have acually fit? I dunno. I'm only askin'.
How much more degrading would it have been to get the woman halfway in and then she's stuck. What if you can't get her out? Once again. I dunno if that would have happened...just thinking out loud. I doubt if she would have fit into the back of a herse, so where exactly does that leave ya?
It is sad that her 13 yo son had to see this but how much more hurtful was it for him to watch his mother kill herself a little more each day with more and more food? If she had a medical problem, it looks as if it wasn't being taken care of. Sounds to me as if the boyfriend was enabling whatever was the root cause.
Surprise
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My SIL, who only had a few lbs. to drop went on an extreme quick weight loss diet after overhearing a conversation in CHURCH.
While waiting on the sermon to begin, she overheard two paramedics sitting directly in front of her laughing and grossing out verbally over a recent event where they had to handle a morbidly obese woman. And while trying to move her a moldy old biscuit fell out from between the folds of fat on the side around her rib cage.
I thought okaaay.....sitting in the church laughing and grossing out about it
huh. Okey dokey. Wonder if maybe they thought about praying for her or something?
I guess thats not for me to say.
While waiting on the sermon to begin, she overheard two paramedics sitting directly in front of her laughing and grossing out verbally over a recent event where they had to handle a morbidly obese woman. And while trying to move her a moldy old biscuit fell out from between the folds of fat on the side around her rib cage.
I thought okaaay.....sitting in the church laughing and grossing out about it
huh. Okey dokey. Wonder if maybe they thought about praying for her or something?I guess thats not for me to say.
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intothatgoodnight
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brandyh29,
I can understand the science at work behind those who consume more than their daily required caloric intake amount, yet maintain a normal body weight -- for example, their body could simply be passing the excess calories out of the intestinal tract without processing, whatever the reason or mechanism involved.
However, I cannot grok HOW one could become/remain grossly obese while consuming a diet greatly curtailed in calories for a given body type/need?
Excess calories/fuel, above and beyond what the body needs to maintain basic body operations, HAS to be available, in order to be converted to a fat store.
intothegoodnight
Bad Hand
Veteran Member
I have a friend who is a fireman that really hurt his back trying to remove a grossly obese woman from her home. I guess I am a hard hearted person but why should a person seriously injure themselves when trying to remove a dead body just so they can make the living feel better? Dead is dead and when they are that huge do what you got to do.
Hansa44
Justine Case
There was a guy on Oprah that weighed 1100 lbs. He lost all the excess weight and got down to about 200 lb. He had lots of help from many people.
AND he gained every ounce of it back!!!
It almost seems like a malfunction in the brain that won't let you quit eating. And it could be the same malfunction that feeds any addiction where you are not able to stop, even tho you know it's hurting you.
AND he gained every ounce of it back!!!
It almost seems like a malfunction in the brain that won't let you quit eating. And it could be the same malfunction that feeds any addiction where you are not able to stop, even tho you know it's hurting you.
Ender
Inactive
Some causes of overweight are:
Food Intolerance- especially wheat and wheat products. Wheat packs weight on to some people and guess what the staple is of people on a restricted income?
Also, Hypo-thyroid.
Both of the above are symptomatic of Blood Type 0's. Also 0's hold onto fat as this original blood type was part of the hunter/gathers. 0's are supposed to hold onto fat for energy for the big hunt/chase. In modern society, there is little need for that. Because of this 0's are in need of constant aerobic excercise- lots of walking, etc.
So if typically, a Blood Type 0 has a slight disability that does not allow them to move around PLUS a limited income, they can become very obese without eating many more calories than the average Joe.
Food Intolerance- especially wheat and wheat products. Wheat packs weight on to some people and guess what the staple is of people on a restricted income?
Also, Hypo-thyroid.
Both of the above are symptomatic of Blood Type 0's. Also 0's hold onto fat as this original blood type was part of the hunter/gathers. 0's are supposed to hold onto fat for energy for the big hunt/chase. In modern society, there is little need for that. Because of this 0's are in need of constant aerobic excercise- lots of walking, etc.
So if typically, a Blood Type 0 has a slight disability that does not allow them to move around PLUS a limited income, they can become very obese without eating many more calories than the average Joe.
I am on a restricted income and the 'staple' in my diet is not wheat.
And yes, those things you mention can cause overeating-people assuming the person who is overweight are just as wrong as someone whi is overweight from being a pig. Period.
The woman weighed 750lbs and lived in a RV. There is not a lot of room in one of those things.
The FD, cops, cprpner and whomever did what they had to do to move a dead body that was enormously overweight.
Someone should have sent the kid elsewhere-do doubt about it.
I doubt they used a dirty carpet-likely it was a tarp as a regular gurney sheet is not going to cover a 750 corpse being haule up the road.
Guy in the story-ex employee said they 'treat roadkill better' which is frap-they scrape 'em up and toss in a plastic bin along with the rest of the roadkill and either dump it or take it to the incinerator. His opinion is not valid and should not be considered.
The base issue is-did the people moving the body do anything innapropriate or could they have done better?
Maybe they could have but I am guessing they did the best they could with what they had. The BF and son too broke to do it better should STFU.
Take what you are given and be thankful.
As my only hero would say "You do the best you can with what you've got."
Mr. Rasmussen
Inactive
Soylent Oil is made out of people
'Thermal depolymerization'
"In that process, anything from scrap plastic to human beings (alive or dead)
can be thrown into one end of a machine (using an unspecified amount of
electrical and chemical inputs) and out the other end comes high-grade oil."
"If a 175-pound man fell into one end, he would come out the other end as
38 pounds of oil, 7 pounds of gas, and 7 pounds of minerals, as well as 123
pounds of sterilized water."
http://www.oilempire.us/soylent.html
'Thermal depolymerization'
"In that process, anything from scrap plastic to human beings (alive or dead)
can be thrown into one end of a machine (using an unspecified amount of
electrical and chemical inputs) and out the other end comes high-grade oil."
"If a 175-pound man fell into one end, he would come out the other end as
38 pounds of oil, 7 pounds of gas, and 7 pounds of minerals, as well as 123
pounds of sterilized water."
http://www.oilempire.us/soylent.html
We moved a paralyzed cow to the barn a few years ago, that weighed about the same as this woman. That much cow is no heavier than that much human, & believe me, there isn't an easy or delicate way to do it.
I do think they might have found something a little better than a piece of carpet to cover her, though.
I do think they might have found something a little better than a piece of carpet to cover her, though.
KerryAnn
Inactive
I can personally vouch for this one. I weighed 235 and exercised daily, ate very carefully (practically no processed foods, a lot of raw foods) and struggled for months to loose anything. When I was diagnosed as celiac and got off of wheat and found and eliminated my other food allergens, the weight melted off of me without exercise. I have since met multiple other people who reported the same- couldn't loose weight despite great effort but the weight came off easily once they were off of their food allergen(s). I run a website that in part helps folks with their food allergies, and the majority of adults who say they are overweight report weight loss with little to no effort once they remove their allergens. Same with the chronically underweight- they report gaining weight and getting closer to an ideal weight once coming off of their allergen(s).
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Santana, if you're allergic to wheat, *any* amount of it in your diet keeps the immune system activated if you have celiac disease (as opposed to gluten intolerance, a different condition). It isn't until you eliminate it completely, even in trace amounts, that your immune system will stand down and stop fighting. That isn't true of most other allergens, but it is true for celiacs, and dairy for a portion of celiacs. Your chances of having celiac is 1 in 250 in the general population, 1 in 20 if you're white, and if you have a family member with celiac you chance is 1 in 2 to 3. If you have an auto-immune disease, your chances of having celiac are also greater than 50%. Celiac is currently one of the most mis-diagnosed and under-diagnosed conditions.
I'm only allergic to dumb people and assholes.
[[Not pointing at you or anyone here-allergies in-general are alien to me, i do not even react ot Poison Ivy]]
My point was that a limited income does not make a person turn to high-carb foods. Everything is a choice.
RobinYyes
Deceased
Apart from the fact that the woman, her son and family were all treated horribly, I'm simply appalled at the lack of respect and simple empathy for another human being that some have shown on this thread. 
No one is asking you to so much as send a sympathy card to her son; but it wouldn't cost you a penny to show some kindness.
No one is asking you to so much as send a sympathy card to her son; but it wouldn't cost you a penny to show some kindness.
dragonslayer2001
Inactive
well
Yes, I know that people can gain weight for all kinds of reasons.
However, I do not for an instant believe that a person gets this morbidly obese (come on 750 pounds???) without spending their life sitting or laying around.
And as for you whiners, how would YOU remove anything that weighs 750 lbs. Ever tried it?
Grow up.
She was unable to walk or to move out of the room. She was so large we would get called there to help roll this woman over if she had inadvertently rolled onto her stomach, since she was so large her family was unable to roll her back over. I blame her family for the mounds of food they would serve her every day and did nothing to help her loose weight.
Anyways back to the respiratory distress call. She called 911 for Respiratory distress and we arrived, I had to call backup and had 12 people total to help get this woman out of her home. We had to get a flat bed truck to back up to this womans side door to get her out. In order to do that, we had to remove the neighbors cement patio set and cut down two of his tree's (bet he was real happy when he got home).
Then we had to cut her bedroom door opening larger in order to get her out, we had to remove her outside door and cut into the wall of her home to make that opening larger. It took us over 4 hours to get her out.
Yes, I know that people can gain weight for all kinds of reasons.
However, I do not for an instant believe that a person gets this morbidly obese (come on 750 pounds???) without spending their life sitting or laying around.
And as for you whiners, how would YOU remove anything that weighs 750 lbs. Ever tried it?
Grow up.
She was unable to walk or to move out of the room. She was so large we would get called there to help roll this woman over if she had inadvertently rolled onto her stomach, since she was so large her family was unable to roll her back over. I blame her family for the mounds of food they would serve her every day and did nothing to help her loose weight.
Anyways back to the respiratory distress call. She called 911 for Respiratory distress and we arrived, I had to call backup and had 12 people total to help get this woman out of her home. We had to get a flat bed truck to back up to this womans side door to get her out. In order to do that, we had to remove the neighbors cement patio set and cut down two of his tree's (bet he was real happy when he got home).
Then we had to cut her bedroom door opening larger in order to get her out, we had to remove her outside door and cut into the wall of her home to make that opening larger. It took us over 4 hours to get her out.
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I remember the lack of simple respect or empathy for a single human being - ANY human being - when hundreds of thousands were suffering in the Gaza Strip.
I remember the lack of simple respect or empathy for a single human being - ANY human being - when hundreds of thousands were suffering in the Gaza Strip.