Obama's Birth Certificate

Warandra

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The Washington Post Debunks Smears, Confirms Barack’s Citizenship

“The truth: Sen. Barack Obama, born in Hawaii, is a Christian family man with a track record of public service.”
 

Warandra

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FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
 

LONEWOLF

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So what's "new" news here? This "cert of live birth" is the same doctored phoney released months ago. It's a digitized, un-signed, un-Notarized forgery.
 

Warandra

Membership Revoked
Just Who Is Philip J Berg?

Sanctions for 'Laundry List of Unethical Actions'
Shannon P. Duffy
07-25-2005


Finding that a Pennsylvania lawyer had committed a "laundry list of unethical actions," a federal judge has imposed more than $10,000 in sanctions and ordered the lawyer to complete six hours of ethics training.

U.S. District Judge J. Curtis Joyner's 10-page opinion in Holsworth v. Berg is packed with criticism of the conduct of attorney Philip Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa.

"Other attorneys should look to Mr. Berg's actions as a blueprint for what not to do when attempting to effectively and honorably perform the duties of the legal profession," Joyner wrote.

"This court has grown weary of Mr. Berg's continuous and brazen disrespect toward this court and his own clients. Mr. Berg's actions ... are an enormous waste of judicial time and resources that this court cannot, in good conscience, allow to go unpunished," Joyner wrote.

In the suit, Berg is accused of legal malpractice by former clients who claim his failure to respond to an ERISA claim against them led to a default judgment.

But the sanctions against Berg stem from his decision to file a third-party counterclaim of fraud against a pension fund that had sued his former clients, according to court papers.

Joyner blasted Berg for filing the fraud claim, calling it an "irresponsible decision" because the claim was "utterly barren of any scintilla of legal principles."

In the ERISA suit, Berg's former clients -- Richard Holsworth and his company, Richard's General Contracting -- were sued by a group of pension funds led by the Carpenters Health and Welfare Fund of Philadelphia and Vicinity.

Carpenters Health claimed that Holsworth and his company had failed to make required payment of fringe benefit contributions.

According to court papers, Joyner found that Berg "neglected to file a response to [Carpenter Health's] claim or provide any legal defense whatsoever for his client."

Even after a default judgment was entered against Holsworth, Joyner found that Berg "remained silent."In April 2002 -- two months after the default judgment was granted and 11 months after the suit was first filed -- Joyner found that Berg "broke his silence" by filing a petition to strike the judgment or to open the default judgment.

Berg's motion was rejected and a default judgment of more than $5,300 was entered against his clients.The judgment swelled to more than $10,000 when Carpenters Health later successfully moved for a supplemental judgment to recover more than $4,700 in attorney fees for its efforts in responding to Berg's untimely motions.

Holsworth and his wife later filed a legal malpractice suit against Berg in the Philadelphia County Court of Common Pleas, alleging that Berg negligently failed to represent them in the Carpenters Health case.

A year later, in February 2005, Berg moved to join Carpenters Health as a third-party defendant in the malpractice suit, demanding more than $20,000 in damages.

In his counterclaim, Berg alleged that the ERISA suit filed by Carpenters Health in 2001, which led to the malpractice claim against him, was "a fraud upon the court and a fraudulent taking from the Holsworths."

Carpenter Health's lawyers removed the case to federal court and filed a motion to dismiss the claim.Joyner agreed, finding that Berg's fraud claim was "frivolous" and was motivated by an intent "to harass Carpenters Health and the Holsworths, as well as to delay and disrupt the administration of justice."

The claim was fatally flawed, Joyner found, because Berg had no standing to bring suit against Carpenters Health and had "failed to conduct even a minimally reasonable inquiry before filing his complaint."

Granting summary judgment in favor of Carpenters Health, Joyner said he found it "wholly unnecessary" even to consider the facts of the ERISA case because it was "abundantly clear" that Carpenters Health was entitled to a judgment as a matter of law.

Joyner invited Carpenters Health to file a motion for Rule 11 sanctions. When it did, Joyner found that Berg "continued his trend of unprofessional conduct by, once again, failing to file a timely response."

In a footnote, Joyner said Berg's response to the sanctions motion was due on May 26. In a phone call to chambers on May 31, Joyner said, Berg's assistant requested permission to move for an extension of time, saying Berg had been out of town for two or three weeks and would not be returning until June 9.

Joyner said he agreed to accept such a request if it were filed the next day, but none was.

Instead, Joyner said, a letter signed by Berg's assistant was faxed to chambers on June 2, requesting that the deadline be extended until June 27.

Joyner said he refused because "in light of Mr. Berg's persistent and repeated neglect of his professional obligations, this court was not inclined to permit Mr. Berg to further delay the review of Carpenters Health's ripe motion."

In a June 2 opinion, Joyner found that Berg had violated Rule 11 by "filing a complaint completely devoid of any basis in fact or law, as would be apparent to any reasonable attorney after the slightest inquiry."

Berg's fraud claim, Joyner said, was "inadequately pled, not grounded in fact, time-barred, and utterly irrelevant to the pending malpractice action against him."

In his sanctions order, Joyner ordered Berg to reimburse Carpenters Health the $10,668 in attorney fees and costs it incurred in defending the claim. He also ordered Berg to complete six credits of ethics courses certified by the Pennsylvania Board of Continuing Legal Education, and recommended that Berg be investigated by the Pennsylvania Bar Association's Committee on Legal Ethics and Professional Responsibility.

On June 16, Berg filed a motion for reconsideration urging that the sanctions imposed on him should be forgiven due to "extenuating circumstances," including health problems, a three-week European business trip and financial difficulties.

Berg conceded in his brief that "there were numerous procedural errors, untimely responses and omissions," but said he "did not do so with intention or defiance."

Joyner flatly rejected the motion, saying "in no way, shape or form do the 'extenuating circumstances' proffered by Mr. Berg even begin to justify, excuse, or explain his unprofessional and unethical course of conduct throughout this matter. These transparent excuses are not only patently insufficient to meet the legal standard for a motion for reconsideration, they are insulting to this court and demeaning to the legal profession."

http://www.law.com/jsp/law/LawArticleFriendly.jsp?id=90000554453
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In other words, Philip J Berg is a nut-case who doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground. You wanna believe somebody like that? What does that make you?
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Warranda, have you ever considered that Obama couldn't even qualify for his own security detail due to his ties to CAIR and extremists?

He would have a difficult time clearing customs if he wasn't a Senator and would easily qualify for the watch list due to his ties to Odinga and Ayers and a litany of other groups.

As to his birth certificate... I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Regardless, if Obama was born AT the Washington Post or the New York Times or NBC or CBS or any other "MSM" that has provided aid and comfort to him it wouldn't matter...

because I will NEVER vote for that socialist scum.

Mike
 

LONEWOLF

Deceased
How weirdly predictable! Call the Candidate out for not having proper credentials and the comeback is assault the messenger with spurious garbage. What about the credentials? Ignoring the question will not work. No, we won't be deflected. Obama doesn't belong in the race to begin with.
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Here is your hero Waranda and his past "associations" ...

barack_obama_associations.jpg


http://colony14.tripod.com/id56.html
 

Garryowen

Deceased
So there is some bad press for Berg from a couple years ago. What does it have to do with the present judge ordering the DNC and Obama to produce the documents and their failing to do so? It would seem a simple matter to produce the requested materials and settle the matter. Obama has kept more information from the people than any of the other candidates. Why?

He has basically lied about his relationship to Ayers. In legal terms it isn't lying, of course, but to normal people it would be seen as lying.

His connections to foreign governments are really upsetting.

He does have a nice family. I guess that's in his favor.

regards,

Garryowen
 

Dex

Constitutional Patriot
The fix is in, I think they want Obama to be president so he can be the fall guy for pretty much everything they have been setting up over the last several years.

There is no way someone with Obama's past who wasn't being setup as a fall guy would have made it this far. He will be there to take the blame for the NAU, for the coming depression and probably WWIII among other things.

Obama supporters are stupid for wanting their candidate to shoulder a burden that cannot be carried or fixed by ANY man, not even their false messiah. If they were smart and if we had a future, they should have waited and seasoned him for 2012 and let one of the regular cronies take the helm of this sinking ship...but hey, whoever said Obama supporters were smart? Not me.

This kind of rigging is a telltale sign that something fishy is going on...they are going to have their Obama in the White House alright, but it probably won't be called the White House for much longer.
 

Navydad

Inactive
The fix is in, I think they want Obama to be president so he can be the fall guy for pretty much everything they have been setting up over the last several years.

There is no way someone with Obama's past who wasn't being setup as a fall guy would have made it this far. He will be there to take the blame for the NAU, for the coming depression and probably WWIII among other things.

Obama supporters are stupid for wanting their candidate to shoulder a burden that cannot be carried or fixed by ANY man, not even their false messiah. If they were smart and if we had a future, they should have waited and seasoned him for 2012 and let one of the regular cronies take the helm of this sinking ship...but hey, whoever said Obama supporters were smart? Not me.

This kind of rigging is a telltale sign that something fishy is going on...they are going to have their Obama in the White House alright, but it probably won't be called the White House for much longer.

The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home Tis summer,
the darkies are gay The corn top's ripe and the meadow's in bloom
While the birds make music all the day
The young folks roll on the little cabin floor
All merry, all happy and bright
By 'n by hard times come a-knocking at the door
Then my old Kentucky home good night

This too shall pass.
 
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Nightwatch

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The lawsuit, filed by former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip J. Berg — a self-avowed supporter of Hillary Clinton — alleges that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is thus “ineligible” to run for president of the United States. It demands that Obama’s lawyers produce a copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he is a natural-born U.S. citizen.

Berg's suit and allegations have set off a wave of Internet buzz and rumors, though Obama could easily have put the matter to rest by providing the federal court with the basic documentation proving he is eligible to take the oath of a president. But Obama has apparently decided to deny the court and the public that documentation.

Obama has By failing to respond to the Request for Admissions and Request for the Production of Documents within 30 days, “admitted” that he was born in Kenya, Berg stated this week in new court filings.

“There are lots of legal ways to stonewall,” a well-placed Republican attorney told Newsmax, who was not authorized to comment officially on the case. “But failing to respond is not one of them.”

“The first thing they teach you in law school,” he added, “is don’t put a complaint like this in a drawer. That’s how a nuisance case can become a problem.”

“The admissions are there. By not filing the answers or objections, the defense has admitted everything. [Obama] admits he was born in Kenya. He admits he was adopted in Indonesia. He admits that the documentation posted online is a phony. And he admits that he is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president of the United States.”

Respected conservative blogger Ed Morrissey called the Berg lawsuit a “conspiracy theory” that had been put to rest by the Obama campaign over the summer but ”has arisen like a zombie yet again to suck the credibility out of the conservative blogosphere.”

However, the 2007 document produced by the Obama campaign omits key information that normally appears on birth certificates in the United States, including the name of the hospital where he was born, the size and weight of the baby, and sometimes the name of the doctor who delivered him.

In addition, the critics of the 2007 document note that Obama's father is described as “African,” a term used today. The formal language in official documents at the time — 1961 — would have identified his race as “Negro” or “Colored.”

The Web site snarkybytes.com has produced a vault copy of a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth from 1963, issued by the Hawaii Department of Health.

In addition to naming the hospital and more details about the baby, the 1963 vault copy also includes the “usual residence of the mother,” and the “usual occupation” of the father. None of this information appears on the 2007 Live Birth certificate produced by the Obama campaign.

The latest suits have been filed in state and federal courts in Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia, New York, and Connecticut to compel Obama to release his birth records.

Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state superior courts to force the states’ secretary of state, as the chief state elections officer, to require Obama to produce original birth records from Hawaii, or else decertify him as a candidate for the presidency.

It seems very compelling to me that if Obama wanted to lay to rest these supposed false claims Warandra, then he could or would present the evidence to dispel these claims. It appears obvious that there is not any proof available and that is the reason he has not produced the original birth records from Hawaii.:shr:

http://http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_birth_certificate/2008/10/24/143882.html?s=al&promo_code=6E2D-1
 

Warandra

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So, all of you are saying that you'd rather believe a lying nut than to see a Black Man in the Oval Office? Figures.
 

KateCanada

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Why doesn't he produce this document, my dh was born in 1959. 2 years before Obama. This is a known North America document. It would all end if he did it. 1959 my dh was born. This is what a Birth Certificate looks like in both our countries.

*Admin* Please do not put personal info out on threads. Satanta

I edited last name and registration. Sorry, thought it was okay. Edited everything Satanta okay, thank you for your concern buddy. ;)
 

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Jarhead

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So, all of you are saying that you'd rather believe a lying nut than to see a Black Man in the Oval Office? Figures.

No Warandra, that's not factual. All we are saying is for Obama to produce the "vault" copy of his birth certificate, or get the he!! out of the race. Simple, really. If there is one, that is.

Jarhead
:usm:
 

lectrickitty

Great Great Grandma!
So, all of you are saying that you'd rather believe a lying nut than to see a Black Man in the Oval Office? Figures.
Why do you keep trying to make this a race issue. It's not. It's a qualifications\ issue. We'd be pushing this just as hard if it was McCain or any other candidate who had a questionable past and refuses to provide any type of proof of his eligibility to hold the highest office in the land.
 

Warandra

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Why do you keep trying to make this a race issue. It's not. It's a qualifications\ issue. We'd be pushing this just as hard if it was McCain or any other candidate who had a questionable past and refuses to provide any type of proof of his eligibility to hold the highest office in the land.

McCain was born in a foreign country, wasn't he? Where is all the crap about that?
 

KateCanada

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McCain was born in a foreign country, wasn't he? Where is all the crap about that?

His Father was in the US military and McCain was born on a military base which is considered USA. Good try though. Obama needs to produce a Birth Certificate. What is the problem. I just showed you my dh's and he was born in 1959. Obama was born in 1961. Why won't he do that????
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Google is your freind:

Wiki:

What is John McCain's birthplace?
In: John McCain

[Edit]
[Edit]

John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, Panama, at a U.S. Navy hospital at the Coco Solo Naval Air Station. McCain was born in 1936; the Panama Canal Zone was a U.S. territory from 1903 to 1979.


What is Barrack Obama's birthplace?
In: John McCain

[Edit]
[Edit]
No one is sure.

See how easy that was?

I bolded the important part for you. To help you understand let me explain it in 'simple'. It was considered U.S. territory like and military hospital overseas. An American citizen having a child in Germany at a U.S. base, the child is considered a U.S. citizen.

Having a kid in the jungles as a native of Uganda or wherever means the kid is considered local livestock to that place.
 

KateCanada

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You guys/gals, don't all your BC look like my dh's? Mine looks like that from Ontario in 1964. I just wanted to post dh's because it's 1959 before Obama.

Thanks.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Google is your freind:

Wiki:

What is John McCain's birthplace?
In: John McCain

[Edit]
[Edit]

John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, Panama, at a U.S. Navy hospital at the Coco Solo Naval Air Station. McCain was born in 1936; the Panama Canal Zone was a U.S. territory from 1903 to 1979.


What is Barrack Obama's birthplace?
In: John McCain

[Edit]
[Edit]
No one is sure.

See how easy that was?

I bolded the important part for you. To help you understand let me explain it in 'simple'. It was considered U.S. territory like and military hospital overseas. An American citizen having a child in Germany at a U.S. base, the child is considered a U.S. citizen.

Having a kid in the jungles as a native of Uganda or wherever means the kid is considered local livestock to that place.

Heh heh! So I made the Obama part up. Kind of like Obama making the Obama part up. Can I run for prez too?
 

Navydad

Inactive
You guys/gals, don't all your BC look like my dh's? Mine looks like that from Ontario in 1964. I just wanted to post dh's because it's 1959 before Obama.

Thanks.

Yes, I was looking for mine to scan but couldn't find it right away. It even is notarized.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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You guys/gals, don't all your BC look like my dh's? Mine looks like that from Ontario in 1964. I just wanted to post dh's because it's 1959 before Obama.

Thanks.


Slightly different but similar. Mine has faded red "DANGER!" stamps all over it. I never got an answer why tho.

BTW....I could post my 3yr old nephews certificate and it would be more valid than anything I have seen from Obama.

Hell, I could design one from scratch that would pass the sniff test better.


Want a PhD in Astrophysics? I have one. Hangs on the wall by my desk. Took me two days to do it and find the right paper to print it on. :D
 

KateCanada

Inactive
Here's an American BC. They look similar to me, found this googling. I'm sure this is the same through all your states.

lebrons-bc-1-med.jpg


Show us one damit Obama!!!!!
 
so

"So, all of you are saying that you'd rather believe a lying nut than to see a Black Man in the Oval Office? Figures."


you would rather bow down to a 'black man' than give homage to OUR Constitution because he is black and no other qualification?


I gave the trust of my children to a black family to home care and babysit for several years.

But if the husband (whom I knew well) had run for President, and he had been born in Kenya, he wouldn't qualify for that office, under OUR Constitution, and common sense.

boo hoo.

If you do not adhere to the Constitution, you don't deserve to be an American, and I'd vote to kick your ass outta here.

ds
 

KateCanada

Inactive
Did McCain lie? I must of missed that? Honestly, what did he lie about. I don't know. I've been busy lately. Not that this thread has anything to do with that. Is there a link to read about it?
 

Patrick28

Membership Revoked
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For those nuts who still think that Barack Obama isn't a citizen of the United States Of America, check this out.

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/...c-search-nsw&gclid=CIfVgK_OwZYCFQVfFQodqSReyg

Blah to me this whole birth certificate thing is mute. You have to realize that even IF and that's a big IF they find out he wasn't born in the US, they will just amend the constitution to allow non US born people to be presidents. Congress will approve it despite widespread whining just like the bailout bill. And the issue will be mute. If he has enough votes, he will be come president, end of story.

I even bet that the vast majority of people who want to vote for him today would still vote for him knowing he was not US born, and they'd pressure their representatives to change the amend the constitution and it would be done.

But ..step into reality here..nobody wants that big headache, so even if they know he's not US born, they'll never allow it to become public, let alone pass a ruling against him becoming president.

end of story.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
They are going to let the fool get elected and step in to yank his ass out unceremoniously before the Inauguration citing his ineligibility to "take office". They will say nothing outlawed his running but the Consitiution forbids his becoming President and so BIDEN will be sworn in as President (temporarily) and he will pick Hillary for VP and later succomb to some heart attack or other Arkincide the Clintons are famous for employing against anyone that gets in their way or stands between them and their goals.

Obama, when faced with PROOF,(probably long held and finally provided by Hillary's people hired to track down that evidence) and the choice of either fessing up or facing HARD TIME for perjury will admit that he WAS born in Africa and that his birth certificate was forged do a public mea culpa, and appeal for calm among blacks and supporters.
 

Patrick28

Membership Revoked
Re:

They are going to let the fool get elected and step in to yank his ass out unceremoniously before the Inauguration citing his ineligibility to "take office". They will say nothing outlawed his running but the Consitiution forbids his becoming President and so BIDEN will be sworn in as President (temporarily) and he will pick Hillary for VP and later succomb to some heart attack or other Arkincide the Clintons are famous for employing against anyone that gets in their way or stands between them and their goals.

Obama, when faced with PROOF, and the choice of either fessing up or facing HARD TIME for perjury will admit that he WAS born in Africa and that his birth certificate was forged do a public mea culpa, and appeal for calm among blacks and supporters.

Blah - save this post. When he becomes president (I'm sure he will), he will serve out his 4 years. (maybe even another 4 years after that who knows).

By the way, I'm not an Obama supporter OR a McCain supporter, they are both "elite" trash IMO...the only choice you are ever allowed to make is between trash and more trash. They'll never allow someone who's in it for the people to have a name on the ballot as you saw with Ron Paul (whether he's worthy or not..because I don't think he has all the answers either and quite frankly, some of his ideas are too out there).
 

m.anderson

Veteran Member
Bad news Warandra,he isn't black.His mother was white.
I'll let you do the math.
If you need any help,and it sounds like you do,let me know
and I will add it up for you.
 

howdeedoodee

Veteran Member
They are going to let the fool get elected and step in to yank his ass out unceremoniously before the Inauguration citing his ineligibility to "take office". They will say nothing outlawed his running but the Consitiution forbids his becoming President and so BIDEN will be sworn in as President (temporarily) and he will pick Hillary for VP and later succomb to some heart attack or other Arkincide the Clintons are famous for employing against anyone that gets in their way or stands between them and their goals.

Obama, when faced with PROOF,(probably long held and finally provided by Hillary's people hired to track down that evidence) and the choice of either fessing up or facing HARD TIME for perjury will admit that he WAS born in Africa and that his birth certificate was forged do a public mea culpa, and appeal for calm among blacks and supporters.

I like this scenario. At least the Clinton's wouldn't have to do something untidy to get Hill in the W.H.
 

KateCanada

Inactive
Obama is a loser, I produced my husbands here in 15 minutes. He was born in 1959. Give it up Obama supporters. You're getting sad in your defense of Obama. Why would you do that anyways? Want anyone to run for president? Amajinadad maybe? I guess he could if you don't care.
 
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