MNKYPOX Monkeypox - Consolidated Thread.

Melodi

Disaster Cat
OK, if I were an epidemiologist (and I kind of learned how they think in the early days of AIDs/HIV) I would avoid all "PC/woke" stuff and ask all the affected men, "Did you have contact with sexual or simply meeting up with, anyone on a gay cruise or adventure trip?"

As many here know, a lot of my very close friends since college have been gay men, and I know that pre-COVID "gay cruises" on ships and "gay adventure tours" by plane were an important part of it for some better-off folks especially older couples or younger men with jobs in the travel industry (or IT).

Often, a feature of these trips for some participants was sex with locals, but not everyone, I have older friends who just enjoy going on a cruise where they can be themselves but for some people yeah, it's a thing, and the travel companies know it.

And with Monkeypox, there may not even need to have been sex, just party time or even close dorm-like quarters for part of the "photo safari" or whatever may have been "situation Zero."

I hope it IS something like this, a convoluted trail that may be difficult to connect at first but makes perfect sense once it does. Like a major spread of HIV originating from one air steward who flew all over the US, Canada, and Europe and may have infected hundreds all on his own (rare but it happens).

Because if it is NOT traceable, if it turns out these people for the most part had NO CONTACT with each other, not even meeting for coffee, then things get a lot scarier. It means either it is out there in the wild and traveling by some means we don't know yet, or simply infecting say 2 people in a room of 50 randomly in ways we don't understand. Or it means that SOMEONE(s) may be releasing this in someway with INTENTION to INFECT people.

I really-really hope what we have a is natural outbreak, transmitted mostly by sexual or very close contact and that even with the shadow of HIV and "the shunning" that took place back then; there will be enough information to nip this in the bud.

The problem will be getting people to come forward when they first feel sick and since the early symptoms are pretty much like flu, that's going to be very difficult.

What a mess...

I'll post the article I came here to post next rather than clutter up this post.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
From the Irish National Broadcaster RTE
Rare monkeypox outbreaks detected in N America, Europe
Updated / Thursday, 19 May 2022 06:40


The monkeypox virus has been reported in the US and Canada, as well as Eutrope

Health authorities in North America and Europe have detected dozens of suspected or confirmed cases of monkeypox since early May, sparking concern the disease endemic in parts of Africa is spreading.

Canada was the latest country to report it was investigating more than a dozen suspected cases of monkeypox, after Spain and Portugal detected more than 40 possible and verified cases.

Britain has confirmed nine cases since 6 May and the United States verified its first yesterday.

The US health authorities said a man in the eastern state of Massachusetts had tested positive for the virus after visiting Canada.

The illness, from which most people recover within several weeks and has only been fatal in rare cases, has infected thousands of people in parts of Central and Western Africa in recent years but is rare in Europe and North Africa.

The World Health Organization said on Tuesday it was coordinating with UK and European health officials over the new outbreaks.



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A handout image issued by the UK Health Security Agency of the stages of Monkeypox
"We really need to better understand the extent of monkeypox in endemic countries ... to really understand how much is circulating and the risk that it poses for people who are living there, as well as the risk of exportation," infectious disease epidemiologist Dr Maria Van Kerkhove said at a WHO press conference on Tuesday on global health issues.

The first case in Britain was someone who had traveled from Nigeria, though later cases were possibly through community transmission, the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) said in a statement.

"These latest cases, together with reports of cases in countries across Europe, confirms our initial concerns that there could be spread of monkeypox within our communities," said UKHSA Chief Medical Adviser Dr Susan Hopkins.

The WHO said it was also investigating that many cases reported were people identifying as gay, bisexual or men who have sex with men.

"We are seeing transmission among men having sex with men," said WHO Assistant Director-General Dr. Soce Fall at the press conference.

"This is new information we need to investigate properly to understand better the dynamic of local transmission in the UK and some other countries."

'No risk to the public'

The UKHSA noted that monkeypox has not previously been characterised as a sexually transmitted disease, underscoring that "it can be passed on by direct contact during sex".

"Anyone, regardless of sexual orientation, can spread monkeypox through contact with body fluids, monkeypox sores, or shared items (such as clothing and bedding) that have been contaminated with fluids or sores of a person with monkeypox," a US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) statement said, adding that household disinfectants can kill the virus on surfaces.

The illness often starts with flu-like symptoms such as fever, muscle ache and swollen lymph nodes before causing a chickenpox-like rash on the face and body, the US agency explained.

The Massachusetts Department of Health, said that the case there - the first confirmed this year in the US - occurred in a patient who had recently travelled to Canada and "poses no risk to the public, and the individual is hospitalised and in good condition".

Health authorities in Canada's Quebec province announced they were investigating at least 13 suspected cases of monkeypox, the public broadcaster CBC reported yesterday.

The cases were flagged to Montreal authorities after diagnoses were made in several clinics specialising in sexually transmitted and blood-borne infections.

The Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) told CBC it had called on "public health authorities and laboratory partners across Canada to be alert for and investigate any potential cases".

According to the CDC, there were no reported cases of monkeypox for 40 years before it re-emerged in Nigeria in 2017.
 

FollowTruth

Phantom Lurker
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Have been poking around on PubMed and came across some pertinent information regarding an old favorite of mine: Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE).

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34829666/

Antioxidant Activity of Citrus Limonoids and
Investigation of Their Virucidal Potential against SARS-CoV-2 in Cellular Models

Abstract
The COVID-19 pandemic represents an unprecedented global emergency. Despite all efforts, COVID-19 remains a threat to public health, due to the complexity of mass vaccination programs, the lack of effective drugs, and the emergence of new variants. A link has recently been found between the risk of developing a severe COVID-19 infection and a high level of oxidative stress. In this context, we have focused our attention on natural compounds with the aim of finding molecules capable of acting through a dual virucidal-antioxidant mechanism. In particular, we studied the potential of grapefruit seed extracts (GSE) and their main components, belonging to the class of limonoids. Using chemical and biological approaches including isolation and purification of GSE, antioxidant and virucidal assays, we have shown that grapefruit seed constituents, belonging to the class of limonoids, are endowed with remarkable virucidal, antioxidant and mitoprotective activity.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12165191/

The effectiveness of processed grapefruit-seed extract as an antibacterial agent:
II. Mechanism of action and in vitro toxicity

Abstract
Objectives:
Recent testimonials report grapefruit-seed extract, or GSE (Citricidal) to be effective against more than 800 bacterial and viral strains, 100 strains of fungus, and a large number of single and multicelled parasites. This study investigated GSE for antibacterial activity at varying time intervals and concentration levels and tissue toxicity at varying concentrations in an effort to determine if a concentration existed that was both microbicidal and nontoxic and in what period of time.

Design:
Gram-negative and gram-positive isolates were introduced into graduated dilutions of GSE (twofold concentrations ranging from 1:1, through 1:512) for determination of bacterial activity. In vitro assays with human skin fibroblast cells were also performed at the same dilutions to determine toxicity.

Results:
These tests indicated that from the 1:1 through the 1:128 concentrations, GSE remained toxic as well as bactericidal. However, test results indicated that at the 1:512 dilution, GSE remained bactericidal, but completely nontoxic.

Conclusions:
The initial data shows GSE to have antimicrobial properties against a wide range of gram-negative and gram-positive organisms at dilutions found to be safe. With the aid of scanning transmission electron microscopy (STEM), the mechanism of GSE's antibacterial activity was revealed. It was evident that GSE disrupts the bacterial membrane and liberates the cytoplasmic contents within 15 minutes after contact even at more dilute concentrations.


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GSE is readily available as powder, tablets, capsules or in a liquid glycerin base.

My storage include two pounds of the powder, several bottles of tablets and 32 oz of the glycerin based liquid.

Also, if I had chickens I would sprinkle the powder over their feed or add the liquid to their water as a precaution against the bird flu.
:chkn:
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment

Plandemic 2.0? A “Smallpox-Like Virus” Has Now Spread to Spain, Portugal and the United States

by JD Rucker
May 18, 2022

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Editor’s Note: Before we get to the concerning article below by Michael Snyder over at End of the American Dream, I wanted to turn everyone’s attention to an article written last year by Dr. Joseph Mercola that highlighted the possibility of Bill Gates participating in the launch of a smallpox outbreak.

Now that we’re seeing the beginnings of a possible outbreak, we need to ask if we’re seeing a new bioweapon launched. Here’s Michael…


Is it already too late to prevent this new monkeypox outbreak from spreading all over the globe? Cases have now been confirmed in the UK, Spain, Portugal and the United States. A few days ago I warned that this outbreak could potentially develop into something big, and that appears to be precisely what is happening. If you are not familiar with monkeypox, it is being described as a “smallpox-like virus” that produces some really nasty symptoms. In particular, the fluid-filled blisters that it produces all over the body can cause victims to look pretty horrifying. The good news is that monkeypox is not nearly as deadly as smallpox. The death rate for smallpox in humans can be as high as 30 percent, but the death rate for monkeypox is usually far lower.

But has monkeypox now mutated into a dangerous new form?

Normally, monkeypox does not spread easily from person to person, but evidence of “community transmission” is starting to emerge during this new outbreak.

In the UK, the number of confirmed cases has now officially risen to 9, and authorities still don’t know how it is spreading…
Two new cases of the monkeypox virus have been confirmed in the UK, bringing up the total number of confirmed diagnoses since May 6 to nine. The virus, though usually “self-limiting”, can be deadly for one in 10 patients, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).
It had been hoped that cases could be limited just to the UK, but that didn’t happen.

On Wednesday, officials in Portugal announced that they have five confirmed cases and 15 “suspected cases”…
Portuguese health authorities on Wednesday confirmed five cases of monkeypox – a rare viral infection related to smallpox – in young men, marking an unusual outbreak in Europe of a disease typically limited to Africa.
Portugal’s General Directorate for Health added it was investigating another 15 suspected cases and that all were identified this month around the capital Lisbon.
And over in Spain we are now being told that there are 23 different victims that are currently exhibiting monkeypox symptoms…
Health authorities in Spain have issued an alert over a possible outbreak of monkeypox after 23 people showed symptoms compatible with the viral infection, which has already been detected in the UK and Portugal.
The health ministry cautioned that the suspected cases – all in the Madrid region – had yet to be confirmed, but said a nationwide alert had been issued “to guarantee a swift, coordinated and timely response”.
Following the stunning news that we got from Portugal and Spain, a top official at the CDC warned that she was “very confident we’re going to see cases in the United States”
“Given that we have seen now confirmed cases out of Portugal, suspected cases out of Spain, we’re seeing this expansion of confirmed and suspect cases globally, we have a sense that no one has their arms around this to know how large and expansive it might be. And given how much travel there is between the United States and Europe, I am very confident we’re going to see cases in the United States,” said Jennifer McQuiston, deputy director of the CDC’s division of high consequence pathogens and pathology.
And right on cue, it has happened.

Just a few hours ago, the Massachusetts Department of Public Health announced that a man that recently traveled to Canada has tested positive for the virus
A Massachusetts resident has tested positive for monkeypox, health officials confirmed Wednesday, making it the first case of the rare virus detected in the United States this year.
According to a release from the Massachusetts Department of Public Health, the patient is an adult male who recently traveled to Canada. The department completed initial testing Tuesday and was confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
This is all beginning to move much faster than I had anticipated.

This is already an international crisis, and NPR is admitting that “health officials have little clue where people caught the virus”…
But health officials have little clue where people caught the virus. And there’s concern the virus may be spreading through the community – undetected – and possibly through a new route of transmission.
“This [outbreak] is rare and unusual,” epidemiologist Susan Hopkins, who’s the chief medical adviser of the U.K. Health Security Agency [UKHSA], said in a statement on Monday.
As I stated earlier, normally it is very difficult for one person to pass monkeypox on to another person.

But now authorities are telling us that in some instances monkeypox appears to have been passed on by sexual contact
In addition, there’s evidence the virus could be transmitting through a new route: sexual contact. “What is even more bizarre is finding cases that appear to have acquired the infection via sexual contact,” epidemiologist Mateo Prochazka at the UKHSA wrote on Twitter. “This is a novel route of transmission that will have implications for outbreak response and control.”
If this turns out to be accurate, this is going to have enormous implications.

But don’t worry, because authorities in the U.S. are telling us that they already have a vaccine for monkeypox ready to go
In 2019, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the first vaccine for monkeypox, which also protects against smallpox. “This vaccine is also part of the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS), the nation’s largest supply of potentially life-saving pharmaceuticals and medical supplies for use in a public health emergency that is severe enough to cause local supplies to be depleted,” the agency said.
Isn’t that convenient?

But even if this particular outbreak fizzles out, there will be more.

As I keep warning, I believe that we have entered a time of great pestilences.

All over the world, scientists are playing around with the most dangerous diseases known to humanity, and many of them are purposely searching for ways to make them even more deadly.

That is a recipe for disaster, and as we have seen, it is way too easy for such bugs to escape from a lab environment.

I wish that there could be a global ban on such experimentation, but that isn’t going to happen any time soon.

So horrific new plagues could literally erupt at any time, and billions of people could die as a result.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
BREAKING REPORT: Health Officials in Massachusetts Confirm First U.S. Case of Monkeypox.

FLASHBACK: Monkeys Escape After Truck Crashes on Pennsylvania Highway.

FLASHBACK: Woman falls ill after exposure to monkeys at Pennsylvania crash site, 3 monkeys euthanized.

COINCIDENCE?
View: https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1527046852130091009?t=aJn5ArSFJJG-k39w0HdI1A&s=19

You beat me to it.
Came to mind not long after these new pox cases started being reported.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well of COURSE they are.
Isn’t that precious?
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
OK, if I were an epidemiologist (and I kind of learned how they think in the early days of AIDs/HIV) I would avoid all "PC/woke" stuff and ask all the affected men, "Did you have contact with sexual or simply meeting up with, anyone on a gay cruise or adventure trip?"

As many here know, a lot of my very close friends since college have been gay men, and I know that pre-COVID "gay cruises" on ships and "gay adventure tours" by plane were an important part of it for some better-off folks especially older couples or younger men with jobs in the travel industry (or IT).

Often, a feature of these trips for some participants was sex with locals, but not everyone, I have older friends who just enjoy going on a cruise where they can be themselves but for some people yeah, it's a thing, and the travel companies know it.

And with Monkeypox, there may not even need to have been sex, just party time or even close dorm-like quarters for part of the "photo safari" or whatever may have been "situation Zero."

I hope it IS something like this, a convoluted trail that may be difficult to connect at first but makes perfect sense once it does. Like a major spread of HIV originating from one air steward who flew all over the US, Canada, and Europe and may have infected hundreds all on his own (rare but it happens).

Because if it is NOT traceable, if it turns out these people for the most part had NO CONTACT with each other, not even meeting for coffee, then things get a lot scarier. It means either it is out there in the wild and traveling by some means we don't know yet, or simply infecting say 2 people in a room of 50 randomly in ways we don't understand. Or it means that SOMEONE(s) may be releasing this in someway with INTENTION to INFECT people.

I really-really hope what we have a is natural outbreak, transmitted mostly by sexual or very close contact and that even with the shadow of HIV and "the shunning" that took place back then; there will be enough information to nip this in the bud.

The problem will be getting people to come forward when they first feel sick and since the early symptoms are pretty much like flu, that's going to be very difficult.

What a mess...

I'll post the article I came here to post next rather than clutter up this post.
Yes true what you said.
I think it’s from the gay bar club scene.
Or any huge bar for that matter?
Dancing, sweating, close bodies, crowded settings….singing, laughing… possibly sharing a sip of each other’s drink?….just think about that and what it could mean.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
You beat me to it.
Came to mind not long after these new pox cases started being reported.

More dots talked about here...








 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Another tidbit I just thought of - IF this was an intentional release, releasing it first into the gay community would be dang near perfect.

The reasons are many, but there are two that stand out:

1. What I already talked about in terms of certain, more affluent members of that community and those who work in the travel industry tending to take special cruises, holiday adventures or just visit large bars and other venues when they do travel than most of the population. Especially if infection only takes close contact, including sharing a beer with your best friend who works in Paris, there's a gold mine of opportunity for such a germ to jump from person to person.

2. Because of the way the entire HIV epidemic was handled in the West, especially the United States and some parts of Europe, any governmental agency or research lab is going to be forced to bend over backward to try and NOT make them a target all over again.

There was untold human suffering brought on by the way things were handled at that time, some of which including not realizing that pregnant Mothers, Babies elderly Americans, and Hemophiliacs were also at risk. I even had my boss tell me once, "We know what causes AIDs just don't have sex outside of marriage."

I replied that he should tell that to the widowers of all the young mothers and babies who died from blood transfusions during C sections who passed it on by nursing their babies or telling all the hemophilia men who infected their legal wives because they couldn't possibly have a "gay disease." Not to mention the blood banks insisting the supply was "safe" because well, it wasn't transmitted that way (even after they knew better).

A Morman Elder, he apologized, he hadn't really thought things through, and given the public reaction at the time that is understandable.

I won't even get into the physical attacks, houses burned to the ground and other things that happened to gay men who did get sick or were just gay.

But because of all that "Baggage" targeting the gay community first might have delayed things long enough (even a couple of weeks to a month) for this to really spread and get out of control. The Health Agencies in the UK and other places especially interviewing "bisexual" men is very worrying - they are worried it will spread out of the gay community the same way AID's had started to when it was mostly understood and controlled in the West. Unlike Africa where even today it is mostly a heterosexual disease spread by both men and women.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
Good news, everyone. They approved a vaccine for Monkeypox like the month before COVID hit.

They couldn’t scare enough of us take the Covid shot so now they released the big guns.
View: https://twitter.com/Melissa_its_ace/status/1527070999916818433?t=Aq_uYBUoTSlHijXozfxYYQ&s=19

September 24, 2019 FDA approves first live, non-replicating vaccine to prevent smallpox and monkeypox

Fauci delivered $100MM of NIAID funds to a company called Bavarian Nordic to create this Monkeypox Vaccine.
View: https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1527061134829821952?t=2GXcPpNXk-ZOQsGWIRZlbg&s=19

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psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
One thing to remember for Indiana members; our Indianapolis 500 is underway.
Travelers from the world are here already.

The race itself has a few hundred thousand attending.
Tight, close quarters.
In all areas of the track it’s crowded and leading up TO the race itself which is a “celebratory zoo”!

Bars, restaurants, hotels ….they’re all packed starting next week with millions of dollars in revenues.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"Good News" there's a "vaccine."

Potential "Bad News" this is a new variety that is transmitting in ways we have never seen before (already happening) and surprise the wonderful new vaccine may not work....

That’s doom porn, right there!
I’m in NO hurry for their vaxx, but it’d be super nice to know there’s something out there to stop a pox!
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
"Good News" there's a "vaccine."

Potential "Bad News" this is a new variety that is transmitting in ways we have never seen before (already happening) and surprise the wonderful new vaccine may not work....
Ok, I must have missed that on these posts. Do you have information on this?
 

flame

Senior Member
Can you tell us where you bought it and cost ? thanks
eta: Also, any dosage recommendations ?
I bought some extract from Amishways.net..I also have some of the Indian stuff I got off Amazon..they have all sorts of choices..

also, the Amishways extract was $30.00. The Amazon stuff varies in price according to the type you get..but its for the most part around $7.00-$8.00...

I found a dosage chart for the Amishways extract that gave instructions per body weight.

150 lbs. and under use 20 drops daily..

150 lbs and over use 40 drops 3x daily..

children use 5-7 drops 3x daily..

Its easiest to mix with 1/2 c. water and drink that..
 
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