CORONA SMALLPOX "Gain of function" research? They wanted to...

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TWN Info Service on Health Issues (May16/04)
22 May 2016
Third World Network


THIRD WORLD NETWORK

ISSUE BRIEF FOR 69TH WORLD HEALTH ASSEMBLY

(23 to 28 May 2016, ggv Geneva)

Dangerous Proposal for “Gain of Function” Modification of Smallpox Virus Must Never be Approved

In 2014-15, the World Health Organization’s scientific committee overseeing smallpox virus research, the ACVVR,(1) turned down three projects proposed by United States scientists to use live smallpox (variola) virus. The report of the ACVVR (WHO/OHE/PED/2016.1) does not describe what these proposals were.

It has come to light in a documentary film(2) released by the New York Times on 18 May, however, that at least one of those projects was a proposal to create a new and very dangerous form of smallpox virus that is adapted to monkeys, through a technique called “serial passaging”.

The smallpox serial passaging proposal fits within a controversial class of studies called “gain of function” experiments, that is, research in which a pathogen is deliberately induced to acquire dangerous new characteristics, such as enhanced virulence or – as is the case here – an expanded host range.

It is extremely important that WHO Member States at the 69th World Health Assembly draw attention to the fact that the ACVVR acted correctly to deny this proposal, and to emphasize in plenary and other discussions that all gain of function research with smallpox is prohibited, whether it is based on serial passaging, biotechnological, or other techniques.

Why is the US proposal to create a novel monkey-adapted smallpox so dangerous?

1. Creation of an Animal Reservoir

Under natural circumstances, smallpox only infects humans. This was a key factor aiding the success of the WHO Smallpox Eradication Program, making smallpox the only disease to date that has been successfully eradicated in the wild. Because smallpox virus does not naturally infect other animals, once smallpox was eliminated from the human population, outbreaks ceased to occur. People were no longer exposed to sources of the virus in the environment, unlike what happens with many other dangerous viruses such as Ebola (monkeys), MERS (camels), SARS (bats), and Zika (monkeys).

Monkeys can only be induced to develop smallpox disease under unnatural laboratory conditions – by extraordinarily high doses injected intravenously, sometimes in combination with aerosol exposure.

In order to create a new smallpox virus that is adapted to monkeys by serial passaging, scientists would infect one monkey with a massive dose of human smallpox, and then take the virus from that monkey and inject it in another, and so on, over multiple generations, until the virus strain changed in ways such that it more readily infected monkeys. Quite possibly, such a virus could be casually transmitted between monkeys and could have novel characteristics in other mammals, including humans.

The US scientist proposing the research rationalizes that a novel serially passed monkey smallpox is a good idea for development of vaccines and drugs, but sufficient vaccines and drugs already exist, and have or are on-track for regulatory approval without need for such a virus.

If a monkey-adapted smallpox virus were to escape laboratory containment, by an accident or deliberate act, the result could be the creation of a smallpox natural reservoir where none presently exists. If a natural reservoir of smallpox virus existed decades ago, the WHO Eradication Programme might never have succeeded.

2. Unpredictable Results for Human Disease

How would a monkey-adapted smallpox strain behave in humans? The answer cannot be known without infecting humans, something that, of course, is an ethical impossibility. So creation of monkey-adapted smallpox will exacerbate one of the key problems WHA has encountered trying to reach consensus on destruction of smallpox virus stocks – the dog-chasing-its-own-tail phenomenon in smallpox virus research.

New research projects like this proposal breed new man-made “what ifs?” prompted by the research itself, and although the public health needs for smallpox virus identified by WHA are satisfied and WHO public health experts have concluded the virus should be destroyed, this sort of experiment prompts arguments from a small group of smallpox researchers for more research. Arguing that monkey-adapted smallpox is distinct from other strains, they might say the monkey-adapted strains create the need for a new round of research in and of themselves.

But as DA Henderson, who led the WHO Smallpox Eradication Programme, has remarked, the less that is done with smallpox virus today, the better off humanity is – particularly considering the several licensed, effective vaccines, rapid and accurate diagnostics, and antiviral drugs that already exist. Indeed, it would be supremely ironic if experiments to create a novel monkey smallpox were used to mount campaigns to do more vaccine and antiviral research targeted at the “threat” of this or other novel man-made strains. The dog chases its own tail – but in this case, the dog might bite us all.

3. Tinkering Where We Should Not

Serial passaging gain of function experiments with potentially pandemic influenza viruses have been hugely controversial in the scientific community, and even the US government has placed a moratorium on funding them, due to concern over the dangers they pose.

While the controversial arguments in favor of taking viruses like H7N9 influenza and making them more transmissible in mammal models of humans are debated, proponents of such risky research can say that H7N9 exists in nature and might naturally change its host range or virulence. (However, it is a separate question if changes done in a laboratory would be sufficiently predictive of those that occur in nature, and hence useful for public health.)

But a disease like smallpox – eradicated in the wild for almost 40 years – has no existing reservoir and no existing victims, human or animal (except in laboratory experiments). So the argument that a changed smallpox virus could emerge from nature does not exist.

Arguably one would have to be insane to deliberately adapt Zika virus to be hosted by household pets, or Ebola to readily infect pigs or other farm animals. The dangers of such an approach are especially clear due to recent alarming outbreaks. What if it got out? What could justify such a terrible risk of creating new natural hosts for the human disease?

Yet this approach is what the US has proposed for smallpox. The argument for doing gain of function research in the case of smallpox is even weaker than that for other diseases, yet because smallpox has not been seen in humans in decades, the implications of serially passaging it to adapt to a new species may not seem as clear as they are for, say, Zika.

The bottom line is that deliberately adapting / expanding the host range of any pathogen that has human pandemic potential – be it influenza, Ebola, Zika, MERS, SARS, or others – is extremely scientifically and ethically controversial and due to extraordinary public health risks this is something that should not be done.

If the WHO and the WHA were to approve gain of function experiments with smallpox, WHO’s endorsement could trigger a horrible panoply of gain of function experiments with other pandemic viruses, creating and amplifying public health risks from dangerous research the world over.

Action at the WHA

The US government scientist proposing smallpox gain of function research is disgruntled at the ACVVR’s rejection of his proposal and has pledged to keep trying to gain approval for such experiments. The scientist still believes his idea to perform gain of function studies on smallpox is “brilliant”, despite WHO’s rejection:

“I actually came up with the idea, I still think this is a brilliant idea,” said Peter Jahrling, a US government biodefense scientist, “Let’s take virus from an infected monkey and use it as the inoculum for another round of monkeys. I proposed this to the World Health Organization.”

Jahrling then described WHO’s reaction to his proposal, in a tone arguably mocking the Organization, saying that WHO answered “‘Oh no, you can’t do that, you’re modifying the virus, that’s forbidden … that’s a no-no, and you’re adapting it to another host … The reason the virus was eradicated from the planet was that it’s uniquely adapted to humans, and now you want to adapt it to monkeys? You can’t do that.”

Does Jahrling accept WHO’s judgment? He defiantly told filmmaker Errol Morris, “I’ll stop when it’s a success, and I can feel that my career was a success, but I don’t feel I’ve succeeded yet.(3)

Therefore WHO Member States at the 69th WHA need to make very clear in plenary that the ACVVR acted correctly to reject the proposal to serially passage smallpox in monkeys, and that any gain of function experiment with smallpox virus, i.e. one that could lead to changes in the viruses host range or an increase in infectivity or virulence, will not be approved under the WHA-authorized research program.

Indeed, the Advisory Group of Independent Experts to review the smallpox research programme (AGIES) has concluded that there is no public health need for any research utilizing smallpox virus to continue, much less the especially dangerous new experiments that have been proposed.

Thus, fixing a destruction date for smallpox virus remains an urgent priority. The sooner the WHA acts on the conclusion of the AGIES that no public health reason remains to retain the viruses and that the WHA-authorized research program has reached its conclusion, the less chance there is for future risky experiments that threaten the world.

For more information please contact:

Edward Hammond (eh@pricklyresearch.com)

1. The ACVVR is the WHO Advisory Committee on Variola Virus Research

2. Morris E 2016. The Demon in the Freezer. New York Times. 19 May. (A documentary film “video editorial”) URL: http://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000004412128/)

3. ibid.Peter Jahrling interviewed by Errol Morris. Jahrling’s admission of career interest is striking. For a number of years, Third World Network has argued that demands for continued smallpox research have become unacceptably intertwined with the personal aspirations of a small number of virologists specializing in orthopoxviruses, a link that Jahrling acknowledges.



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Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
"Mad scientist" or "God complex", either way you prefer, we have all seen this movie before and it doesn't end well. There's a lot to prove the saying that the more intelligent someone is, the easier it is for them to go off the rails. With them pushing to make crisper tech into the realm of at home 3D prototyping it may not be all that long for a rouge to go full Satan Bug in their basement lab. Heck, we have already had cases of these sorts "collecting" viruses like some collect butterflies so that isn't too far a leap to "rolling your own".
 

Magdalen

Veteran Member
The documentary "Demon in the Freezer" is an excellent and chilling documentary about the keeping of the smallpox virus on hand. Errol Morris’ New Short Documentary ‘A Demon in the Freezer’ Reveals Smallpox Concerns — Watch Run Time: 17:56

In the documentary, the FDA is painted as the stumbling block to destroying the stockpiles of smallpox. (Actually the DoD is the only governmental agency that said no to the destruction of the stockpiles.) The FDA requires that vaccines be tested in animals. Smallpox can't be because it only infects humans. They need an animal model to test a vaccine to declare it a useful tool. Dr. Jahrling has been trying to develop a simian model to test smallpox vaccines. He's the one pushing for serial infections (the process the WHO denied).

According to Dr. Jahrling, to prove vaccines work you need some samples of the actual virus. He's says it will help them develop a workable vaccine, even though there is already an effective treatment using cowpox. He says the development of a smallpox vaccine will take smallpox off the table as a biological weapon, and that is why his research is so important.

There's no doubt Dr. Jahrling is a "brilliant" and dogged researcher. I'm just not too sure about his motivations or ethics.

N.B. Dr. Jahrling is also the one who further isolated the Reston strain of the Ebola virus once it was initially discovered in Reston, VA. He's in Preston's book "The Hot Zone".
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
The existing smallpox vaccines and the one coming from Tonix Pharmaceuticals are FDA approved. Lack of FDA approval for current COVID-19 vaccines is one of the strongest legal arguments against being required to take it.

Smallpox vaccine works for monkeypox. Remember the recent hazmat emergency at Dulles over smuggled porcupine quills. Mebbe next time they just walk over the southern border. Mebbe the Dulles seizure announcement was just priming the media pump.

You really don't need gain of function for monkeypox, so no risk of getting caught doing it. 10% mortality, mostly the young. Deadly to the immune compromised - maybe deadly after a c-19 vax? Monkeypox can leave you blind. Scarring is the least of your worries.

It keeps you from working for at least four weeks. The lockdowns will be total and very long.

I'm sorry.
 

Redleg

Veteran Member
I still think the goal of the PTB is to thin the population and to do that they come up with a virus and get thenselves vaccinated against this virus and release it to let it do its job and sit back and wait. Just need a virus that can do the job. I don't think this is over yet.

Just my thoughts on this.
 

desertvet2

Veteran Member
If the public knew...anything...well,...

It would all come crashing down mad max style..quickly.

They are sitting there with a finger hovering on the fast forward button ...if the population gets too uppity.

They also know that if the population really decided it was over, there is not much they can do except release the T-virus and hide out.

Live your lives everyday, love those that you love and prepare for hell on earth.

The rest will take care of itself.
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
"Mad scientist" or "God complex", either way you prefer, we have all seen this movie before and it doesn't end well. There's a lot to prove the saying that the more intelligent someone is, the easier it is for them to go off the rails. With them pushing to make crisper tech into the realm of at home 3D prototyping it may not be all that long for a rouge to go full Satan Bug in their basement lab. Heck, we have already had cases of these sorts "collecting" viruses like some collect butterflies so that isn't too far a leap to "rolling your own".


SMALLPOX "Gain of function" research? They wanted to...

Fauci would say the risk is worth the pandemic
 

Techwreck

Veteran Member
Maybe Covid as a killer was a dud, but it brought about mass "vaccination" with experimental (or proven?) gene altering concoctions that would not have happened without the chicom virus and the fear campaign.

The increasing push for "vaccination" keeps making me think of some sci-fi/horror movie.

Time will tell on the shots, but the fact that they are called vaccines when they clearly are not vaccines is just one of many red flags.

And the whole realm of bioweapon research is something akin to a toddler with a giant box of matches.
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Covid as a killer was mostly a dud.
Lot of preparation went into that one.
Plan B will probably do better.


It's possible it wasn't intended as a slate-wiper, but as a mechanism to kickoff the secondary effects; those being compliance, economic hardship, stopping the return to Nations vs. World, solidify the hold of the PTB after a disastrous few years where we were shown that gas (energy) prices could come down, we could manage our borders, and we could compete as a nation against other nations without the supra-national structures that were slowly strangling us and eliminating the very notion of independent nations.

It's likely they would have other arrows in their quiver, should they decide CV19 didn't do the trick.

Total woo. Nevermind.
 

vestige

Deceased
I would think that the label "Mad Scientist" absolutely applies to Jahrling and others who feel like him in the scientific community. They should be rounded up and EXTERMINATED for attempting "crimes against humanity"

Minor modification.

More effective

Irreversible
 

Grouchy Granny

Deceased
Hmmm - wonder if my smallpox vaccination would be a deterrent? Am of the generation that got that vax when a kid and I remember seeing pictures of the scab on my arm after getting it. Maybe 2 or 3 years old?

I don't think that's a vax that's been given in at least 30 years, maybe even longer.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
This kind of nonsense needs to be UNIVERSALLY OUTLAWED under PAIN OF IMMEDIATAE DEATH!! Any type of research in this direction needs to be banned, outlawed, forbidden and ANYONE who in ANYWAY works or contributes to such research in any way shape or form needs to fear IMMEDIATE EXECUTION in the most horrendous way. From the politician that allows it, anyone who funds it, to any and all scientists involved, down to the janitor mopping the floors. Any involvement, even in the slightest degree is subject to execution!

This kind of crap needs to stop and stop now! It should never even be considered. Never even contemplated. We have enough deadly diseases on this planet right now, we don't need to go making more and deadlier diseases. WTF are people thinking?!?!?

This isn't research this is BIO-WEAPON manufacturing and a THREAT TO ALL MANKIND!! Friggen morons!
 
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Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This kind of nonsense needs to be UNIVERSALLY OUTLAWED under PAIN OF IMMEDIATAE DEATH!! Any type of research in this direction needs to be banned, outlawed, forbidden and ANYONE who in ANYWAY works or contributes to such research in any way shape or form needs to fear IMMEDIATE EXECUTION in the most horrendous way. From the politician that allows it, to any and all scientists involved, down to the janitor mopping the floors. Any involvement, even in the slightest degree is subject to execution!

This kind of crap needs to stop and stop now! It should never even be considered. Never even contemplated. We have enough deadly diseases on this planet right now, we don't need to go making more and deadlier diseases. WTF are people thinking?!?!?

This isn't research this is BIO-WEAPON manufacturing and a THREAT TO ALL MANKIND!! Friggen morons!


I don't disagree with you, but I wonder: who would do the investigations? Who would carry out the sentence?

The same 'people' who run things now? The guy who said the risk of a Global Pandemic was worth it?

"Gain of Function" research was "banned" in the US, so it moved to China - and it appears we continued to fund it!


"This kind of crap needs to stop and stop now!" Agreed! But who's going to do it?! The same psychopaths who did this?

Rhetorical question, you don't have to answer.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
My tb2k radar set keeps getting too much closer to the truth. That’s what it is for and does admirably. Makes me uncomfortable on occasion, but that is why I keep reading. That unsettling feeling of knowing the probable and even provable truth keeps me motivated to Keep investing in the self-sustaining homestead model that worked for peasants for thousands of years. Hard work, but our bodies were designed for that. The linkages to the technologies of the cities, always come back to bite . You can survive if the seeds keep working, the sun keeps shining, and the rains don’t fail.
it’s when the technologies that you begin to rely on fail you and leave you stranded without food, water, and safe shelter, that you realize you have bet the wrong way and likely you will be the last of your branch of the family tree...
the internet will be the last link I keep . Knowledge is power. When this link fails, hopefully the homestead will have achieved orbital velocity and by the grace of God, the tsunami of refugees from the urban areas don’t sink the life rafts.
 
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