GOV/MIL Main "Second Impeachment" Thread

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
People HERE have done enough facial rec to ID MANY of the "Insurrectionists and rioters" as BLAMNTIFA-REV.com. If WE can and HAVE done this the FBI KNOWS the actuality and is hiding it, for their masters.



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Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Well, I thought the demoncrats wanted to call that rino from over the river from me to smear Trump with another fake statement like Lee's..I also noted Graham voted to call witness. Then the Trump lawyers stomped their asses again. :eleph:
Cruz and Trump's lawyers said they would call both piglosi and mayor of dc bitch and ask them what they knew and when they knew it: the riots. F%_<*&& BRILLIANT.:D
So, when they realized their attempt to "steal the impeachment" failed the demoncrat house managers ran off with their tails in their legs and a "statement" from the Vancouver rino about what she "heard" the rino mccarthy sayvtrump said yada.I mean the demoncrats got crushed AGAIN.
And now they vote to acquit even mitch the bitch will.
Still 55 traitors in the senate and the chinese and russians laughing their asses off at these corrupt fools.
 

jward

passin' thru
BREAKING: Senate Agrees to Skip Impeachment Witnesses

Beth Baumann
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Posted: Feb 13, 2021 1:35 PM





BREAKING: Senate Agrees to Skip Impeachment Witnesses

Source: AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana
The United States Senate on Saturday voted 55 to 45 to subpoena witnesses in former President Donald Trump's second impeachment trial. Following the vote, the Senate went into a recess, at which time a deal was struck in private. Impeachment managers and Trump's defense team agreed to forgo witnesses and instead enter Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler's (R-WA) statement into evidence.

News broke Friday night of Beutler recounting an alleged conversation she had with House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA). Herrera Beutler claims McCarthy recounted a conversation he had with President Trump during the Jan. 6 attacks on the Capitol. McCarthy allegedly told Trump to "call off" the riots but Trump declined, saying those causing the riots were not his supporters. The president allegedly believed the rioters were members of Antifa.
House impeachment lead Jamie Raskin (D-MD) read Herrera Beutler's statement on the Senate floor before it was entered into evidence as stipulated hearsay.
Below is her statement:
In my January 12 statement in support of the article of impeachment, I referenced a conversation House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy relayed to me that he'd had with President Trump while the January 6 attack was ongoing. Here are the details:
When McCarthy finally reached the president on January 6 and asked him to publicly and forcefully call off the riot, the president initially repeated the falsehood that it was antifa that had breached the Capitol. McCarthy refuted that and told the president that these were Trump supporters. That's when, according to McCarthy, the president said: "Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are."
Since I publicly announced my decision to vote for impeachment, I have shared these details in countless conversations with constituents and colleagues, and multiple times through the media and other public forms.
I told it to the Daily News of Longview on January 17. I've shared it with local county Republican executive board members, as well as other constituents who ask me to explain my vote. I shared it with thousands of residents on my telephone town hall on February 8. (See blow).
To the patriots who were standing next to the former president as these conversations were happening, or even to the former vice president: if you have something to add here, now would be the time.
Democrats likely backtracked on their calls for Herrera Beutler's deposition when Trump's defense team promised to bring forward more than 300 witnesses.


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Herrera Beutler's Alleged Conversation with Leader McCarthy Becomes the Focal Point of the Impeachment Trial
Beth Baumann
The final vote on impeachment on the article of "inciting an insurrection" could come as early as Saturday.

posted for fair use
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
"They" could save a bunch of taxpayers time and money by just taking the vote and closing this whole thing off. "THEY" don't have to numbers to DO ANYTHING so why drag this out. Sorry Demps but you lose this one. How about you get back to the business of running RUINING this country.

No wait! What the hell am I thinking? Just keep doing what you're doing and drag this thing out with ten's of thousands of witnesses. Make it a daily soap opera! The less time you MORONS spend working coming up with socialist laws and B.S., the better off the entire country is.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
"They" could save a bunch of taxpayers time and money by just taking the vote and closing this whole thing off. "THEY" don't have to numbers to DO ANYTHING so why drag this out. Sorry Demps but you lose this one. How about you get back to the business of running RUINING this country.

No wait! What the hell am I thinking? Just keep doing what you're doing and drag this thing out with ten's of thousands of witnesses. Make it a daily soap opera! The less time you MORONS spend working coming up with socialist laws and B.S., the better off the entire country is.
Unfortunately, they just sign into law every wet dream they've ever had. Sigh.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Anyone notice how all of a sudden it's OUR REPUBLIC to the Demoncrats now? I guess OUR DEMOCRACY wasn't working.
 

marsh

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1uJN3gJW8M
LIVE
LIVE: President Trump Impeachment Trial: Day 5
•Started streaming 4 hours ago

Right Side Broadcasting Network


Saturday, February 13, 2021: President Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial will resume in the Senate on Saturday. NOTE: We're offering this coverage because it's important the people hear President Trump's defense! We obviously do not support impeaching our great 45th President.
 

EE80

Contributing Member
Its a :poop: show!!!!!!:popcorn1: I feel like a bobble head doll. I can't even speak! The BS that is going on !!!! OMG :sht:
 

marsh

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Mitch McConnell Says He Will Vote to Acquit Trump

By Kristinn Taylor
Published February 13, 2021 at 9:22am

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) told fellow GOP senators via email Saturday morning that he will vote to acquit President Trump when his impeachment trial comes to a vote. McConnell, while saying his vote is a “close call”, he believes the Senate lacks jurisdiction as “impeachments are a tool primarily for removal.” McConnell also said concerns about a president engaging in criminal conduct in his last days in office can be addressed prosecution after he leaves office.

McConnell does not make clear whether the “close call” is one of jurisdiction or of Trump’s guilt or innocence.
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Colleagues–as I have said for some time, today’s vote is a vote of conscience and I know we will all treat it as such. I have been asked directly by a number of you how I intend to vote, so thought it right to make that known prior to the final vote.
While a close call, I am persuaded that impeachments are a tool primarily of removal and we therefore lack jurisdiction.

The Constitution makes perfectly clear that Presidential criminal misconduct while in office can be prosecuted after the President has left office, which in my view alleviates the otherwise troubling “January exception” argument raised by the House.
Given these conclusions, I will vote to acquit. Mitch
McConnell’s statement was first reported by Politico’s Burgess Everett:
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The Senate reconvenes at 10 a.m. EST and is expected to conclude today if no witnesses are called.
 

et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Just turned it on for shits & giggles. Rep Joe Neguse ( black man) impeachment manager giving closing arguments. He keeps biting his lower lip after speaking a sentence .
 

marsh

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FIREWORKS: Trump Attorney Van Der Leen ERUPTS After Democrats Flip the Script, Attempt to Change Rules and Decide to Call Witnesses as Their Case Collapses

By Jim Hoft
Published February 13, 2021 at 9:33am
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Democrats flipped the script this morning after their case collapsed on Friday against President Trump.

Democrats now want to change the rules and call in witnesses. This comes after Senator McConnell announced he will vote to acquit.

Democrats now want to call in at least one witness.

According to the Seattle Times — Rep. Jaimie Raskin, lead impeachment manager, called Saturday morning for Republican Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington to be subpoenaed for the Senate trial, saying her corroboration of a Jan. 6 phone call between House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and former President Donald Trump was critical. Beutler, one of the 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump.

The senate is now voting to call witnesses.

Trump’s attorneys erupted after Democrats flipped the script knowing they were losing their case.

View: https://youtu.be/kA7dOGE7JqQ
5:00 min
 

marsh

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UPDATE: US Senate Votes to Allow Witnesses in Sham Impeachment 55-45 — Five RINOs including Lindsey Graham Join Democrats in Vote

By Jim Hoft
Published February 13, 2021 at 9:47am
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Democrats flipped the script this morning after their case collapsed on Friday against President Trump.

Democrats now want to change the rules and call in witnesses. This comes after Senator McConnell announced he will vote to acquit.

This comes after Republican Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington leaked news on a January 6, 2021 phone call between House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and former President Donald Trump.

According to the Seattle Times — Rep. Jaimie Raskin, lead impeachment manager, called Saturday morning for Republican Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington to be subpoenaed for the Senate trial, saying her corroboration of a Jan. 6 phone call between House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and former President Donald Trump was critical. Beutler is one of the 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump.

Kevin McCarthy denies the leaked report by Herrera Beutler.

Republican Senators Collins, Murkowski, Romney, Sasse, and Lindsey Graham voted for witnesses.
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The US Senate then voted 55-45 to call in witnesses to rescue their floundering attempt to impeach President Trump.

The five RINOs joined Democrats in the vote.

Sen. Lindsey Graham explains his last minute vote change in favor of witnesses:
“Mr. President,” Graham said to Senate President Pro Tempore Patrick Leahy. “I’d like to change my vote to ‘aye.'”
Following the vote, Graham took to Twitter to explain his reasoning. He said that if Democrats want to call witnesses, then he’s “going to insist we have multiple witnesses.
 

marsh

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Breaking: Trump Legal Team Asks to Call in Speaker Nancy Pelosi and DC Mayor Bowser to Testify on Inside Info They May Have Had on Capitol Breach

By Jim Hoft
Published February 13, 2021 at 10:40am
YES!
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Democrats flipped the script this morning after their case collapsed on Friday against President Trump.

Democrats now want to change the rules and call in witnesses. This comes after Senator McConnell announced he will vote to acquit.

This comes after Republican Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington leaked news on a January 6, 2021 phone call between House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and former President Donald Trump.

According to the Seattle Times — Rep. Jaimie Raskin, lead impeachment manager, called Saturday morning for Republican Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington to be subpoenaed for the Senate trial, saying her corroboration of a Jan. 6 phone call between House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and former President Donald Trump was critical. Beutler, one of the 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump.

Kevin McCarthy denies the leaked report by Herrera Beutler.

Republican Senators Collins Murkowski, Romney Sasse and Lindsey Graham voted for witnesses.

According to reports the Trump legal team requested to call in Speaker Pelosi and Washington DC Mayor Bowser to testify before the US Senate.
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Pelosi, Bowser and Mitch McConnell refused increase security on January 6th for the US Capitol.

 

marsh

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“Pelosi Can Testify on Whether She Made a Decision Based on Optics, Based on Politics” – TED CRUZ DROPS A MOAB – Warns Democrats on What’s Coming in Impeachment Trial (VIDEO)

By Jim Hoft
Published February 13, 2021 at 11:26am
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Democrats flipped the script this morning after their case collapsed on Friday against President Trump.

Democrats now want to change the rules and call in witnesses. This comes after Senator McConnell announced he will vote to acquit.

This comes after Republican Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington leaked news on a January 6, 2021 phone call between House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and former President Donald Trump.

Kevin McCarthy denies the leaked report by Herrera Beutler.

According to reports the Trump legal team requested to call in Speaker Pelosi and Washington DC Mayor Muriel Bowser to testify before the US Senate.

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It is well known that Pelosi, Bowser and Mitch McConnell refused to increase security on January 6th for the US Capitol.

Senator Ted Cruz agreed this morning that the Trump legal team will call in Speaker Pelosi to testify along with Mayor Muriel Bowser.

Senator Ted Cruz: I think it is very likely that President Trump’s lawyers will call Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi is clearly a relevant witness to this matter. Speaker Pelosi can testify on when she knew about the threats to the Capitol, what she knew specifically. And in particular she could testify, we heard already the House Sergeant of Arms turned down National Guard protection for the Capitol on January 6th because, of course, the optics. And I think Speaker Pelosi can testify on whether she made a decision based on optics, based on politics not to have additional protection at the Capitol to prevent the terrorist attack that played out.
View: https://youtu.be/faR8LBaFuJU
1:12 min
 

et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Rep Jamie Raskin ... mr tears. Starts out about something his daughter said. Mr. Raskin ... we don’t give a rats ass about you ... or what your daughter thinks. Personally I hope she learns how much of a pathetic ass you’re. Go crawl back under the rock from which you came.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Guess I will catch a stream if the timing is right so I can witness Pelosi's sour pucker and see smoke spew from her ears when Trump is acquitted.
 

EE80

Contributing Member
Have any of you noticed Patrick Leahy has had to be coached by the guy to his left and the women who is wearing the tan top that sits in front of him as stumbles and stammers trying to get through this??? He isnt even fit to be working anymore!
 

marsh

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UPDATE: House Impeachment Managers FOLD – Back Off On Witnesses After Trump Legal Team Announces Pelosi Will Be Called In — Closing Arguments Begin!

By Jim Hoft
Published February 13, 2021 at 12:00pm
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Democrats flipped the script this morning after their case collapsed on Friday against President Trump.

Democrats now want to change the rules and call in witnesses. This comes after Senator McConnell announced he will vote to acquit.

This comes after Republican Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington leaked news on a January 6, 2021 phone call between House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and former President Donald Trump.

Kevin McCarthy denies the leaked report by Herrera Beutler.

According to reports the Trump legal team requested to call in Speaker Pelosi and Washington DC Mayor Muriel Bowser to testify before the US Senate.

A person familiar with Trump team strategy told me that if Dems seek witnesses, Trump’s legal team will try to call Pelosi and Bowser.
They would need 51 votes to subpoena the witnesses.
Dem managers have refused to comment this morning about witnesses
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) February 13, 2021
It is well known that Pelosi, Bowser and Mitch McConnell refused to increase security on January 6th for the US Capitol.

Senator Ted Cruz agreed this morning that the Trump legal team will call in Speaker Pelosi to testify along with Mayor Muriel Bowser.

Following this announcement, the House Impeachment Managers backed off from calling witnesses.

They moved on to closing arguments.


They folded.
House impeachment managers folded after signaling they wanted witness. Instead they agreed to let Herrera Beutler’s statement stand in as her testimony.
Closing arguments and a vote (likely acquittal) coming today.
— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) February 13, 2021
Bummer. Calling in Demon Pelosi would have been so much fun!
Happening Now: #ImpeachmentTrial Closing Arguments – LIVE on C-SPAN2 Impeachment Trial pic.twitter.com/HfId1ECSsz
— CSPAN (@cspan) February 13, 2021
 

EE80

Contributing Member

“Pelosi Can Testify on Whether She Made a Decision Based on Optics, Based on Politics” – TED CRUZ DROPS A MOAB – Warns Democrats on What’s Coming in Impeachment Trial (VIDEO)

Wouldn't it be great if TRUMP showed up to testify!!!!!!
 

marsh

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DEMOCRAT IMPEACHMENT DAY 5: Senate Reconvenes at 10 AM ET – Democrats Cave After Threatening to Call Witnesses – LIVE STREAM VIDEO

By Jim Hoft
Published February 13, 2021 at 9:00am
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The US Senate will reconvene at 10 AM ET on Saturday morning.

This is after devastating testimony on Friday, including 13 minutes of video clips showing Democrats doing the exact same thing they accuse President Trump of doing.

Friday was a devastating day for Democrats. Whenever the American public gets to see them for who they are it is never a good day for them.

Democrats depend on the liberal media to be their shield.

Rumble video on website23:23 min

Saturday’s session could feature the vote on whether to convict or acquit Trump. Democrat Senator Patrick Leahy is presiding over the sham impeachment and will also vote to convict.

A guilty vote by Republicans will effectively end the Republican Party so Democrats aare keeping their fingers crossed

Democrats need 17 Republicans to convict President Trump of organizing an “insurrection” against the US Capitol.

This was after the 2020 election was stolen from President Trump by a dementia patient in a basement.

Today will include closing comments and then a vote to acquit.

Here is the livestream video from Right Side Broadcasting Network..

View: https://youtu.be/o1uJN3gJW8M
LIVE
 

et2

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So Trumps lawyers up now. Micheal Van Der Veen. Talking about the prosecutors using false information and had to withdraw it two days ago. And again tried again today
 

et2

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The question before us ... isn’t that there was a violent breech of the capitol. But was Trump responsible for it. At no point can it be said Trump encouraged a insurrection. It never happened. He explicitly told the crowd to go forth peacefully. Something the left ignores ...over and over
 

et2

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Saying that they know the attackers had this pre-planned. The left removed context and manipulated speech to make it look like it was Trumps fault
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
I really would like to know what the RULES of ENGAGEMENT were for those officers supposed to defend the capital. I would not be surprised if they were forbidden to use deadly force.

From a military viewpoint, as I explained to my DW, if you're guarding a position you only call "HALT" once, twice at the most. If the person doesn't halt and freeze IMMEDIATELY your only option is, and your duty is to immediately SHOOT the threat! Not to wound, but to immediate HALT them....as in dead.

The second those protesters tried to breech the doors and windows of the capital building and refused to halt or retreat, (and many of them were ARMED with poles, sticks, etc.) those officers should have shot them in the face! Sorry, but that's how I feel and that's my military mindset. If those had been Marines guarding the capital you can bet that break in would NEVER have happened and there would have been a lot of civilian casualties.....injured, wounded and DEAD!

When an officer of the law says to HALT....you better well FRIGGEN IMMEDIATELY HALT or you're just asking to get shot in my opinion.

Now....on the other hand, considering all these recent police shootings of unarmed civilians, we have to come up with another way of incapacitating a perp INSTANTLY without killing them. Apparently those TAZERS aren't cutting the mustard. And another thing......I really think ALL law enforcement need to be at least second degree practicing black belts in some form of martial arts. It's pretty obvious that a good many of them can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

For example:
I witnessed several episodes and heard about a lot more of dipsticks trying to take on Japanese Policemen. Suffice to say it didn't end well for the perps. One incident I personally witnessed was a huge drunk Marine that wanted to take the "candy cane" from a JN cop. The "candy cane" is the Japanese cop's swagger stick/baton that's painted with red and white stripes. The idea being that they use it for traffic control as it's easily seen. Well to say that the Marine never laid a single finger tip on the JN cop is and understatement and our Marine was very quickly rendered unconscious and on the ground in a matter of seconds. He was pretty hurt....but he wasn't dead.
 

et2

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The current president and VP and the left encouraged the mobs and supplied comfort to them as they destroyed our cities all summer. Going on about how the left was helping Antifa and BLM. Refusing to send help or allowing the NG to help
 

nebb

Veteran Member
Jamie B....Wa State.......I’ll vote dem if I need be to get rid of her and I’ll let the local repub machine know why
 
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