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Breaking: Senate Votes 56 to 44 to Proceed with Impeachment Trial of Private Citizen Donald J. Trump – 6 Republicans Join All Democrats in Vote

By Jim Hoft
Published February 9, 2021 at 4:17pm
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After initial arguments from the House prosecution team and from President Donald Trump’s attorneys, the US Senate voted 56 to 44 to proceed with the impeachment trial of private citizen Donald J. Trump.

Senate Democrats and six Republicans voted on Tuesday to move forward with the impeachment trial.

Republicans voting to join the Democrats in this unprecedented assault on our constitution:
** Ben Sasse
** Pat Toomey
** Susan Collins
** Lisa Murkowski
** Mitt Romney
** Bill Cassidy
Senator Cassidy joined the five senators who earlier voted on Rand Paul’s point of order that this slapdash impeachment is constitutional.
 

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Jeffrey Lord, a contributing editor to The American Spectator, is a former aide to Ronald Reagan and Jack Kemp. Lord is also an author, former CNN commentator and staunch Trump supporter. On Tuesday he listed the many lies embedded within the Democrats’ unprecedented impeachment trial.

The Trump War Room retweeted Lord’s list of Democrat lies related to this impeachment:
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The Democrats 75 Impeachment Lies The Democrats 75 Impeachment Lies | The Jeffrey Lord
— Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) February 9, 2021
Lord says that he read the 77-page report provided by the Democrats to support their spontaneous impeachment of President Trump. He then attempted to identify and list the numerous lies within the document. He came up with 75 lies. Here is a list of his first 10:
Lie # 1: The very first sentence reads: “This trial arises from President Donald J. Trump’s incitement of insurrection against the Republic he swore to protect.”

Fact: President Trump did no such thing. I had a front-row seat at his speech on the White House Ellipse. I listened to every word. (Here is the text if you want to read for yourself.
Donald Trump Speech "Save America" Rally Transcript January 6 - Rev ) The President recounted his views of what had happened in different states when it came to running the elections in their state. Then he said this: “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

There was nothing – nothing – said to cause “an incitement of insurrection”. That is a lie.

Lie # 2: The charge says: “In a grievous betrayal of his Oath of Office, President Trump incited a violent mob to attack the United States Capitol during the Joint Session, thus impeding Congress’s confirmation of Joseph R. Biden, Jr. as the winner of the presidential election.”
Fact: As stated above, Trump did no such thing. Saying “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard” is hardly a “grievous betrayal” of the presidential oath of office. That is a lie.
Lie # 3: “He spent months asserting, without evidence, that he won in a ‘landslide’ and that the election was ‘stolen.’”

Fact: Donald Trump produced volumes of evidence of a stolen election. There were state legislative hearings at which one person after another came forward, under oath, to testify to the evidence they had personally witnessed. Over there at David Horowitz’s Front Page is a detailed account of the evidence. The headline: “Yes, It Was a Stolen Election: You’d have to be blind not to see it.” This sentence in the impeachment charge is another lie.

Lie # 4: Here’s what the impeachment charges say about the crowd that gathered behind the White House Ellipse to hear the President and others speak: “The crowd was armed, angry and dangerous.”

Fact: I was there. In the front row. There was rock music being played. People all around me were dancing. Laughing. I have the video that I took. To say otherwise is a lie.
Lie #5: The crowd in front of the President was “tense.”
Fact: As said, a provable lie. I have the video.

Lie # 6: The charge: “Then he aimed them straight at the Capitol, declaring: “You’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.”

Fact: Left out – again and deliberately – the President’s call to “to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard” In short, no matter how many times this lie is repeated it is still a lie.
Lie # 7: The President is accused of a “failure to take charge of a decisive security response.”

Fact: The President of the United States has no authority over security at the U.S. Capitol. Those who do: The House and Senate Sergeants at Arms, House and Senate committees and The Architect of the Capitol.
Another lie.

Lie # 8: “It is impossible to imagine the events of January 6 occurring without President Trump creating a powder keg, striking a match and then seeking personal advantage from the ensuing havoc.”

Fact: Speaking out using First Amendment rights of free speech to demand an honest election investigation is not “creating a powder keg.” Silencing dissent is what creates a powder keg. This is another lie.

Lie # 9: “In the words of Representative Liz Cheney, the House Republican Conference Chair: ‘The President of the United States summoned this mob, assembled the mob, and lit the flame of this attack. Everything that followed was his doing. None of this would have happened without the President. The President could have immediately and forcefully intervened to stop the violence.
He did not. There has never been a greater betrayal by a President of the United States of his office and and his oath to the Constitution.’ Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell recently affirmed that ‘the mob was fed lies’ and ‘provoked by the president.’”

Fact: Just because Cheney and McConnell are Republicans does not make what they said true. The President summoned no “mob.” That is a lie. He invited his supporters – Americans one and all – to “peacefully and patriotically” exercise their First Amendment “right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” He was 100% within his right to do so, and the thousands who peacefully attended were 100% within their right to do so. And no, the President fed the peaceful attendees no lies. To radically change what actually happened to these kind of descriptions is turning the truth into a lie.

In fact, as the New York Post has reported of former Fox anchor Megyn Kelly: “Megyn Kelly argued CNN and other media outlets partially share responsibility for the Jan. 6 deadly riot at the US Capitol — claiming the public ‘lost trust’ in what she characterized as a lack of objective reporting of former President Trump.”

Lie #10: The impeachment charge says: “This is not a partisan matter.”

Fact: That is a particularly bold lie. Utterly laughable. This impeachment, like the one that preceded it, is nothing but partisan.
See the remaining 65 lies on his list here.
The Democrats and every person who aided and abetted in the 2020 election fraud should be indicted and put in jail for a very long time if not address under the acts of treason. This was arguably the greatest crime in world history.

Instead our very corrupt and evil media is covering it up by not reporting it. Big Tech is censoring those who report on the crime and the FBI and DOJ are refusing to do the jobs they are sworn to do and are doing nothing.

All these people should be in jail or addressed according to the relevant crimes they are committing. Americans have not forgotten and are totally enraged with what is going on.
 

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Can't copy and paste this - brings over a bunch of junk. So just posting this much.

Yep, many of us noted above that the first lawyer who spoke for Trump - Schoen? that we couldn't tell which side he was on!!! Not good lawyers for President Trump...too bad. President Trump probably got this guy's name for his traitor advisors....yet again! Trump's 'people' have done a super good job of blocking anyone good from helping him or giving him the right advise.

What the heck? President Trump is surrounded by the enemy. And his lawyers said they probably won't be changing anything as they proceed with this.


'I'll have to do better next time,' Trump attorney says after Republican criticism of impeachment opening



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WASHINGTON — Former President Donald Trump’s attorney David Schoen said he would “have to do better next time” after several Republican senators criticized Monday’s presentation by Trump’s legal team, with one calling them “disorganized” and some instead praising the case made by Democratic impeachment managers.

 

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GOP Senator Cassidy Warns that More GOP Senators May Vote for Impeachment — Then Joins Democrats in Vote to Proceed with Impeachment

By Jim Hoft
Published February 9, 2021 at 5:47pm
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50 Senate Democrats and six Republicans voted on Tuesday to move forward with the impeachment trial.

Republicans voting to join the Democrats in this unprecedented assault on our constitution:
** Ben Sasse
** Pat Toomey
** Susan Collins
** Lisa Murkowski
** Mitt Romney
** Bill Cassidy
Senator Cassidy joined the five senators who earlier voted on Rand Paul’s point of order that this slapdash impeachment is constitutional.

Cassidy’s vote came after his appearance on NBC’s Meet the Press on Sunday morning.

Senator Cassidy warned that more Republicans may vote for impeachment.
Then today he voted to proceed.
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Democrats need 17 Republicans to join them in a vote to impeach private citizen Donald Trump.

MSN reported:
Senator Bill Cassidy, a Louisiana Republican, downplayed the significance of a 55-to-45 Senate vote in which just five GOP senators voted with Democrats to say that former President Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial would be constitutional.
In late January, Republican Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky pushed through a Senate vote to put lawmakers on the record as to whether they viewed the pending trial for Trump to be constitutional. Only GOP Senators Mitt Romney of Utah, Ben Sasse of Nebraska, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Susan Collins of Maine and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania voted with Democrats—rejecting the suggestion from Paul and some other conservatives that the trial would be unconstitutional. Although Cassidy voted in favor of Paul’s resolution, he pushed back against the widespread assessment of the vote as pre-determining the outcome of the trial.

“I think it’s important to understand the nature of that vote. It was called two hours before it. There was no debate and no explanation from either side,” Cassidy explained during an interview with NBC News’ Meet the Press on Sunday. “It was a vote in a moment of time. And so, based upon what senators knew at that point and felt at that point, they then voted. But we will now have, hopefully, presentations from both sides, and we will consider the evidence as impartial jurors,” he added.

Cassidy asserted that he did not view the 55-to-45 vote on Paul’s resolution as revealing how senators would vote when it comes to whether or not to convict Trump.

“I think it depends upon that which is presented,” the Republican senator said, before pivoting to criticize House Democrats for moving so rapidly with the impeachment vote. He argued that they should have given more time for the process to play out and additional evidence to be presented.

“Hopefully, they’ll build a case and bring it to us. But again, process is important. And we have to see that process played out,” Cassidy said. “And the [former] president should have his counsel. That’s just the way our system works.”
 

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Trump Defense Lawyer Schoen Plays Compilation Video of Democrats Calling For Trump’s Impeachment Since Day One of His Presidency

By Cristina Laila
Published February 9, 2021 at 3:47pm

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Donald Trump’s second show trial began Tuesday afternoon.

Donald Trump was impeached by the House last month for ‘inciting an insurrection’ during his January 6 rally at The Ellipse.

Lead House impeachment manager Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) lied in his opening statement Tuesday and said the Democrats’ case is “based on cold, hard facts.”

Liar Raskin played a deceptively edited video of Trump to distort the facts.

Trump’s lead defense lawyer David Schoen argued that Trump wasn’t given any semblance of due process because he was never given the opportunity to confront the evidence.

Schoen also said the rabid House impeachment managers are trying to change to Constitution so they can go after one man they hate the most: President Trump.

“Going forward with this impeachment trial of a former president of the United States is unconstitutional…and, as a matter of policy, it is wrong as wrong can be, for all of us as a nation,” Schoen said.

Schoen played a compilation video of Democrats calling for Trump’s impeachment since day one of his presidency.

WATCH:
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1359248365922512906
2:09 min
 

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Another Disgusting Lie: Democrat Raskin Shows Slide Claiming “7 People Lost Their Lives” in January 6 Capitol Siege

By Jim Hoft
Published February 9, 2021 at 3:22pm

They just can’t help it.

Lead Impeachment Manager Jamie Raskin and Democrats on Tuesday ran a video of the peaceful protests, rioting and violence on January 6, 2021 at the US Capitol.

And they lied.

The video deceptively edited President Trump’s words to his million supporters at the Ellipse by the White House.

What else should we expect from a Democrat? They’re liars by nature.

Raskin played a deceptively edited video of Trump purposely omitted the part where Trump specifically told his supporters to “peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard.”

Then at the end of the video Raskin and Democrats claimed “seven people lost their lives” by their experiences that day.

This is another disgusting lie.


The Washington DC Police identified the four Americans killed during the chaos at the US Capitol:

Ashli Babbit, 35-years-old, Huntington, Maryland
Benjamin Phillips, 50-years-old, Ringtown, Pennsylvania
Kevin Greeson, 55-years-old, Athens, Alabama
Roseanne Boylan, 34-years-old, Kennesaw, Georgia.

Police Officer Brian Sicknick died after the rioting likely from blood clot and stroke.

Two other Capitol Police officers committed suicide later that month. To blame their suicides on the Capitol riots is completely outrageous and disingenuous.
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Democrats are relying on lies to impeach private citizen Donald Trump.
They have to lie to get the former president!
 

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FLASHBACK: Democrat Impeachment Manager Jamie Raskin Challenged Trump’s Awarding of Electors in 2017 — But Now It’s Different?

By Jim Hoft
Published February 9, 2021 at 1:36pm
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House Democrats picked Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) as head impeachment manager in their second attempt to impeach Donald Trump, this time private citizen Donald Trump.

Democrats say Trump had no standing in challenging the 2020 election results on January 6, 2021.

Democrats say Trump incited a riot when he told a million supporters at the White House Ellipse to “peacefully” protest at the US Capitol.

Raskin was a surprising choice considering he challenged the 2016 election results based on the fraudulent Trump-Russia conspiracy.

Rep. Raskin was not called a traitor or terrorist at the time.

Here is Raskin in January 2017 challenging the 2016 election results.

It’s still up on his own YouTube page.
View: https://youtu.be/bxEr_mRpp44
1:04 min
 

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WATCH: Lead House Impeachment Manager Raskin Plays Deceptively Edited Video of Trump During Senate Trial

By Cristina Laila
Published February 9, 2021 at 12:58pm
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Lead House impeachment manager Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) lied in his opening statement Tuesday and said the Democrats’ case is “based on cold, hard facts.”
Donald Trump was impeached by the House last month for ‘inciting an insurrection’ during his January 6 rally at The Ellipse.

This trial is a sham because Trump is no longer in office, but Raskin cited the framers as he argued a trial of a former president is constitutional.

Then he proceeded to play a deceptively edited video of Trump to distort the facts.

What else should we expect from a Democrat? They’re liars by nature.

Raskin played a deceptively edited video of Trump at The Ellipse and purposely omitted the part where Trump specifically told his supporters to “peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard.”

WATCH:

View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1359210725357596672
9:44 min
 

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Poll: Most Americans Have Little Interest in Senate Democrats’ Impeachment Trial of Private Citizen Donald Trump

By Jim Hoft
Published February 9, 2021 at 10:26am
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The US Senate impeachment trial of private citizen Donald J. Trump will begin today at noon eastern.

Democrats are hoping the trial will take attention away from their insane policies and positions.


But most Americans say they will watch little or none of the proceedings.

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Rasmussen reported:
The Senate begins its impeachment trial of former President Trump this week, but most voters don’t believe Trump will be convicted and few expect to watch the entire trial on TV.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that only 11% of Likely U.S. Voters think it is very likely the Senate will convict Trump of “high crimes and misdemeanors.” Another 20% say conviction is somewhat likely. Twenty-eight percent (28%) think it’s not very likely the Senate will convict Trump and 36% say conviction is not likely at all.
Only 15% of voters say they’ll watch the entire Senate impeachment trial on TV, and 21% expect to watch most of it. Thirty percent (30%) say they’ll watch some of Trump’s trial, but 32% won’t watch any of it.
 

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Tuesday, February 09, 2021
Left's latest rule change: secret ballots for senators

Law professor Douglas Kmiec (Obama's first ambassador to Malta) wants the Senate to throw away a couple of centuries of good governance by allowing senators to vote in secret to convict Donald John Trump. Secret votes by the Senate is about as constitutional as impeaching someone after his term has expired.

And yet, here we are with the left changing the rules again rather than accept defeat.

They changed the rules to allow Obama to use the FBI to spy on Trump. They changed the rules to allow the harvesting of ballots. They changed the rules to ban Republican observers from the counting of votes. And now they changed the rules to where a private citizen may be impeached.

Kmiec wrote in The Hill, "Yet, despite Trump having neither law nor fact nor common sense on his side, it is largely predicted that conviction in the Senate will lack the requisite two-thirds vote. When Trump faced the earlier impeachment, I urged that the Senate have the benefit of a secret ballot like almost all jurors have in non-impeachment matters and that all of us enjoy in primary and general elections. The wisdom of a secret ballot is even greater because of the Jan. 6 riot, the continuing threat of violence against members of Congress, and in state capitals around the country."

Once again, a liberal uses security to strike down our rights, this time to know how our senators voted on the most historic political event of the year.

The same left that got a white girl banned from college for singing a rap song that had the N-word in it has the gall to complain when voters want to hold their senators accountable on a vote to ban a former president from seeking office again.

If we accept secret ballots for impeachment, what is to stop secret ballots for federal budgets, or Senate confirmations, or going to war?

I do not know how serious he is because he made the same argument when the House impeached President Trump. My guess he will make the same argument next year when the House impeaches Donald Trump again.

He did not, however, make that argument when we impeached Clinton.

Perhaps Kmiec's aim is to cast shade on The Donald's acquittal. Lefties will say he would have been convicted if there were a secret ballot.

Secret ballots would lead to a conviction because Democrats would count the votes.

They are pretty good at winning elections where only they count the ballots.
 

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Louisiana GOP: ‘Profoundly Disappointed’ in Sen. Bill Cassidy’s Vote in Support of Impeachment Constitutionality

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Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La., speaks to reporters, Thursday, Oct. 19, 2017, on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)
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The Republican Party of Louisiana said Tuesday it is “profoundly disappointed” in Sen. Bill Cassidy’s vote to join Senate Democrats in their claim that impeaching former President Donald Trump is constitutional and that a “trial” should proceed.

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The statement reads:
The Republican Party of Louisiana is profoundly disappointed by Senator Bill Cassidy’s vote on the constitutionality of the impeachment trial now underway against former President, now private citizen, Donald J. Trump. We feel that an impeachment trial of a private citizen is not only an unconstitutional act, but also an attack on the very foundation of American democracy, which will have far reaching and unforeseen consequences for our republic.
We also remind all Americans that former President Trump is innocent of the politically motivated, bogus charges now pending against him in a kangaroo court presided over by an openly hostile political opponent. How far justice has fallen in the short time that Democrats have been in control of the federal government!
We salute Senator John Kennedy for remaining steadfast in his opposition to the fake impeachment trial now underway in Washington, DC. Senator Kennedy has clearly made the right decision once again.
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Cassidy and fellow Republican Sens. Susan Collins (ME), Lisa Murkowski (AK), Mitt Romney (UT), and Ben Sasse (NE) voted with Democrats to allow the trial to proceed.

On Sunday, Nebraska’s Lincoln County Republican Party voted to censure Sasse for “dismissing the legitimate concerns” regarding allegations of voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election.

The Republicans voted with Democrats who played an edited video during Tuesday’s “trial” in which they omitted Trump’s call for his supporters to “peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

“The video was edited to make it look as if Trump had urged supporters to go and violently breach the Capitol building,” Breitbart News reported.
 

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Alan Dershowitz Not Impressed by Trump Lawyer Bruce Castor at Impeachment Trial
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Attorney Alan Dershowitz, a member of President Donald Trump's legal team, speaks to the press in the Senate Reception Room during the Senate impeachment trial at the U.S. Capitol on January 29, 2020 in Washington, DC. Wednesday begins the question-and-answer phase of the impeachment trial that will last up to …
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Harvard Law School Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz appeared on Newsmax TV to discuss former President Donald Trump’s impeachment hearings, specifically criticizing Trump attorney Bruce Castor’s defense of the former president.

“There is no argument,” Dershowitz said. “I have no idea what he is doing. I have no idea why he is saying what he is saying.”

Dershowitz added that Castor spent more time introducing himself to the senators, but noted that the American people are “entitled to an argument — a constitutional argument.”

Dershowitz said there were very strong arguments from the House impeachment managers and their montage and an emotional speech from Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD), whom Dershowitz said was his former student.

“Maybe he’ll bring it home, but right now, it does not appear to me to be effective advocacy,” Dershowitz said of Castor. “He may know the senators better than I do, and maybe they want to be buttered up.”

The first day of Trump’s impeachment trial in the Senate began Tuesday with a debate on whether a former president who was impeached while he was still president can be prosecuted even though he is no longer in office.
 

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Trump Impeachment Lawyer: We’re Here Because Democrats Fear Donald Trump as a Future Political Rival
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WASHINGTON, DC - FEBRUARY 9: In this screenshot taken from a congress.gov webcast, Bruce Castor Jr. defense lawyer for former President Donald Trump speaks on the first day of former President Donald Trump's second impeachment trial at the U.S. Capitol on February 9, 2021 in Washington, DC. House impeachment managers …
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Former President Donald Trump’s impeachment lawyer, Bruce Castor, argued Tuesday that Democrats were trying to impeach him because they did not want him running for office again.

“Let’s understand why we are really here,” Castor said during the Senate trial. “We are really here because the majority of the House of Representatives does not want to face Donald Trump as a political rival in the future.”

Castor argued that House Democrats were afraid of the American people if they were this concerned about Trump’s political future.

He pointed to a rich history of past presidents getting voted out of office by the American people after one term for a president that was much different.

“It happens. The people get tired of an administration they don’t want and they know how to change it and they just did,” he said, referring to the results 2020 election of President Joe Biden.

Referring to Biden, Castor continued, “He’s down there on Pennsylvania Ave right now probably wondering how come none of my stuff is happening up at the Capitol.”

Democrats, he argued, should allow the people to decide whether Trump should ever be president again, not just the representatives and senators in Congress.
“So why think that they won’t know how to do it in 2024 if they want to? he asked. “Or is that what the fear is … that the people in 2024, in fact, will want to change and will want to go back to Donald Trump and not the current occupant of the White House, President Biden.

Historically, Castor said, the American people were trusted with the decision about whether a president deserved to get re-elected or not.

“It has worked 100 percent of the time,” he said. “One hundred percent of the time in the United States, when the people had been fed up with and had enough of the occupant of the White House they changed the occupant of the White House.”
 

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Dems Play Trump’s Remarks at Impeachment Trial But Leave Out Call to ‘Peacefully and Patriotically Make Your Voices Heard’
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Democrats played a deceptively edited video of former President Donald Trump’s speech on January 6, 2020, at the beginning of the impeachment trial on Tuesday, leaving out his call for supporters to “peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

The video shows Trump saying, “We’re going to walk down and I’ll be there with you. We’re going to walk down…to the Capitol.”

The video then cuts to supporters yelling, “Let’s take the Capitol!” and “We are going to the Capitol!” It then cuts to people trying to get past fence barriers, and then to an earlier part of Trump’s speech where he said in regards to his fight against the election results, “we fight like hell.”

The video then says: “President Trump ends his speech and urges his mob to move toward the Capitol.”

It then shows Trump saying:
So we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we are going to the Capitol, and we are going to try and give…our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re try–going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.
It then goes to protesters violently clashing with police, protesters breaching the Capitol, and some chanting “Fight for Trump!”

The video was edited to make it l0ok as if Trump had urged supporters to go and violently breach the Capitol building.

However, nowhere in his remarks did Trump encourage violence, and he even called on supporters to “peacefully” make their voices heard.

He said:
Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we’re going to walk down and I’ll be there with you. We’re going to walk down — we’re going to walk down. Anyone you want, but I think right here, we’re going to walk down to the Capitol — and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated. Lawfully slated.
I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today, we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections. But whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country. Our country has been under siege for a long time. Far longer than this four year period.

So we are going to — we are going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we are going to the Capitol, and we are going to try and give — the Democrats are hopeless, they are never voting for anything, not even one vote but we are going to try –give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re try — going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.
I want to thank you all. God bless you and God bless America. Thank you all for being here. This is incredible.
 

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Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit...
Bottom line is they are trying to prevent him from serving as President again. Screw them all.
 

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WATCH: Constitutional scholar SHREDS Democrat impeachment manager for falsely claiming he supports Trump impeachment trial

Democrat impeachment manager Rep. Joe Neguse (D-CO) falsely claimed that constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley supported the belief that former presidents should be tried for impeachment.

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The second impeachment trial of former President Donald Trump launched on Tuesday with opening statements and four hours of debate divided between House impeachment managers and Trump's defense lawyers.

The discourse is focused on whether the ex-president incited the Capitol Hill riot on Jan. 6 and whether the relentless efforts of Democrat officials are unconstitutional now that Trump has left the Oval Office.

During remarks on the Senate floor, Neguse pointed to past analysis from Turley. The Colorado lawmaker stated at the trial that Turley once wrote in his prior study on the executive branch from years ago: "Resignation from office does not prevent trial on articles of impeachment."


He continued to quote Turley's writings on impeachment, referring to the George Washington University professor's quote of 18th century statesman Edmund Burke's declaration that "no man in no circumstance, can escape the account, which he owes to the laws of his country." In regards to the Blount case, Neguse also did not mention that the respective trial was dismissed for lack of jurisdiction.

"This is a distortion of Turley's actual view," commented Breitbart News senior editor-at-large Joel Pollak. "Anyone who follows Turley knows this. Neguse has just undone his own argument because Turley will speak out."

Sure enough, Turley objected on Twitter, responding to Neguse's public statements that invoked his work and viewpoints on the national stage.

Turley noted that Neguse cited his 1999 Duke Law Journal article from 21 years ago on the purpose of the Belknap trial and the value of such condemnations.

Neguse alleged that Turley was an advocate until just several weeks ago for retroactive trials, a "recognized champion" of the notion that the Constitution authorizes impeachment of former officials.

"I appreciate the citations but it is not true," Turley rebutted. "As noted, my views have evolved not on the value of such trials but on the text."
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"However, I believe the better textual argument favors the narrower meaning," Turley interjected. The academic also emphasized that others, like fellow constitutional law expert Laurence Tribe, have matured their perspectives.
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"The issue on such close questions remains your default on such questions," added Turley. "I have certainly become more textual in the last three decades, which I have written about over the years."

Turley emphasized that this change was not so recent as suggested by Neguse.
......The issue on such close questions remains your default on such questions. I have certainly become more textual in the last three decades, which I have written about over the years. However, this was not a recent change as suggested by Rep. Neguse...
— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) February 9, 2021
"The Democrats are getting fact-checked in realtime and it's not going well for them," remarked One America News Network's Jack Posobiec.

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Turley linked to his January article about the topic, in which he addressed questions about his previous takes. He argued that while such trials had value in the past, the loose way in which the House had used its impeachment power meant that trying former officials caused more problems than the move solved.

"Again, I still hold the same views on the history and value of such retroactive trials. However, I believe that the language and implications of such trials outweigh those benefits," Turley wrote on Jan. 18. "Indeed, I have found over these decades that departures from the language of the Constitution have often produced greater dangers and costs."

Turley even emphasized that the opinion against retroactive impeachments is "strengthened" by what America has "witnessed in the two Trump impeachments."

He acknowledged that Neguse's reliance on the Duke piece is "not misplaced" as he still believes in what he stated before. It is only Neguse's characterization of his position that was "misleading," Turley penned in his new column dated Feb. 9.

If his views from long ago are going to be cited as "recent," Turley jested that he would at least appreciate the use of his thinner photos from the 1990s.

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Turley appeared on Fox News soon after Neguse's display of political theatre. He conceded that his Duke publication can be cited to support retroactive trials under legitimate circumstances where removal is not one of the options available and other pathways exist like condemnation and disqualification.

"Those are all worthy and I still believe that," Turley reiterated on-air. Again, he has become more "textual" in his constitutional interpretation. "In the end, you have an interesting and unresolved issue," the legal pundit concluded.

Neguse, an experienced litigator and former head of Colorado's Department of Regulatory Agencies, was appointed to his high-profile position by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. He was one of the Democrats leading the argument on the House floor against GOP attempts to reject Arizona's electoral votes when the pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol building in early January. Neguse, also participated in Judiciary Committee work on the article of impeachment, The Gazette reported.

The first day of the trial was devoted to the constitutional question. Both sides will continue to argue their cases for 16 hours each over the next several days.
 

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WATCH: Senator Tim Scott says Trump 'is simply not guilty'

Republican Sen. Tim Scott from South Carolina went on Fox News live on Monday morning to talk about why he voted against impeachment, saying that Trump told people to "go peacefully".

Republican Sen. Tim Scott from South Carolina went on Fox News live on Monday morning to talk about why he voted against impeachment, saying that Trump told people to "go peacefully."

"I was in the chamber when the rioters were coming over," mentioned the Senator on air.

"I was taking my jacket off, my tie off. I was rolling up my sleeves just in case I had to fight. The chances of me understanding and appreciating the severity of the situation is 100 percent."

"The one person I don't blame for that situation is President Trump. I don't blame the non-violent protestors outside. I blame the individuals coming in the chamber, coming in the building."
"[Presidnet Trump] is simply not guilty...The Democrats should put the blame where it stands, where it should be. And it does not, it does not have to do with the president who said 'go peacefully to protest.'" - @SenatorTimScott on the Democrats' impeachment. pic.twitter.com/u99takN2xV
— Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) February 8, 2021
"[President Trump] is simply not guilty...The Democrats should put the blame where it stands, where it should be. And it does not, it does not have to do with the president who said 'go peacefully to protest.'" - @SenatorTimScott on the Democrats' impeachment."

One person pointedly responded to the clip on social media: "This guy is awesome, It's like he actually is human or something, How did he get into office?"
 
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Hannity Tells Trump Lawyer David Schoen That Bruce Castor Was Too ‘Meandering’: ‘I Like Focused Arguments’

By Josh FeldmanFeb 9th, 2021, 10:06 pm

Fox News’ Sean Hannity spoke with Trump lawyer David Schoen Tuesday night and gently tried to address some of the criticism of the other major Trump lawyer who spoke at the impeachment trial.

Bruce Castor’s performance was just incredibly meandering and all over the place, and not only was he roundly panned, but report after report has made it beyond clear that Donald Trump himself was furious.

Hannity started off the interview by telling Schoen he loved his performance, but said, “I thought it started a little meandering. Sort of like a lot of free associating in the beginning.”

“And I’m not attacking your partner, I don’t know him at all, but I like focused arguments,” Hannity said as he went back to praising Schoen’s presentation.

But towards the end of the segment, Hannity once again raised the issue, noting all the criticism of Castor and saying, “Seemed to be free-associating,
extemporaneous, somewhat meandering.”

“Will this be more focused and will it be more prepared? Are there other people that are planning to make those arguments? ‘Cause some conservatives called me and said, ‘Whoa, we need somebody harder-hitting here,'” Hannity added.

Schoen said Castor “hadn’t planned on going” today and that “they’ll be very well-planned in the future.”

You can watch above, via Fox News.
 

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Nebraska’s Lincoln County Republican Party Votes Unanimously to Censure Never-Trump Jacka$$ Ben Sasse

By Jim Hoft
Published February 9, 2021 at 7:43pm
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Nebraska’s Lincoln County Republican Party votes unanimously to censure Never-Trump Never-Trump Ben Sasse.

On Tuesday Ben Sasse voted to approve to proceed with the Senate impeachment of Donald Trump.

Breitbart.com reported:
Nebraska’s Lincoln County Republican Party on Sunday voted to censure Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE), one of the U.S. Senate’s most vocal critics of former President Donald Trump, the North Platte Telegraph first reported.

Lincoln County Republican Party’s 32 members voted unanimously for the measure, said chairwoman Carol Friesen. In the resolution, Sasse is accused of “dismissing the legitimate concerns” regarding allegations of voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election. The resolution also takes aim at Sasse for his conduct toward Trump, saying he failed to “respect the high office of the President of the United States.”
Additionally, Sasse is criticized for “statements inciting radical proposals and retributions against law-abiding elected senators,” such as referring to Sens. Josh Hawley (R-MO) and Ted Cruz (R-TX) — both upper chamber Republicans who challenged Congress’s certification of the electoral college in favor of President Joe Biden.
 

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Don't Impeach Trump. Impeach The Deep State For Its Conspiracy To Kill The Constitution

TUESDAY, FEB 09, 2021 - 23:25
Authored by John Whitehead and Nisha Whitehead via The Rutherford Institute,
“All that was required of them was a primitive patriotism which could be appealed to whenever it was necessary to make them accept longer working hours or shorter rations. And even when they became discontented, as they sometimes did, their discontent led nowhere, because, being without general ideas, they could only focus it on petty specific grievances. The larger evils invariably escaped their notice.”
- George Orwell, 1984
Let’s be clear about one thing: the impeachment of Donald Trump is a waste of time and money.

Impeaching Trump will accomplish very little, and it will not in any way improve the plight of the average American. It will only reinforce the spectacle and farce that have come to be synonymous with politics today

While the nation allows itself to be distracted by yet more bread-and-circus politics, the American kakistocracy (a government run by unprincipled career politicians and corporate thieves that panders to the worst vices in our nature and has little regard for the rights of the people) continues to suck the American people into a parallel universe in which the Constitution is meaningless, the government is all-powerful, and the citizenry are powerless to defend themselves against government agents who steal, spy, lie, plunder, kill, abuse and generally inflict mayhem and sow madness on everyone and everything in their sphere.

So here’s what I propose: let’s impeach the Deep State and its cabal of government operatives from every point along the political spectrum (right, left and center) for conspiring to expand the federal government’s powers at the expense of the citizenry.

We’ve been losing our freedoms so incrementally for so long—sold to us in the name of national security and global peace, maintained by way of martial law disguised as law and order, and enforced by a standing army of militarized police and a political elite determined to maintain their powers at all costs—that it’s hard to pinpoint exactly when it all started going downhill, but we’re certainly on that downward trajectory now, and things are moving fast.

Even now, we are being pushed and prodded towards a civil war, not because the American people are so divided but because that’s how corrupt governments control a populace (i.e., divide and conquer).

These are dangerous times.
These are indeed dangerous times but not because of violent crime, which remains at an all-time low, or because of terrorism, which is statistically rare, or because the borders are being invaded by foreign armies, which data reports from the Department of Homeland Security refute, or because a pandemic is spreading like a contagion, or even because raging mobs of so-called domestic terrorists are trying to overthrow elections.
  • No, the real danger that we face comes from none other than the U.S. government and the powers it has granted to its standing armies to rob, steal, cheat, harass, detain, brutalize, terrorize, torture and kill American citizens with immunity.
  • The danger “we the people” face comes from masked invaders on the government payroll who crash through our doors in the dark of night, shoot our dogs, and terrorize our families.
  • This danger comes from militarized henchmen on the government payroll who demand absolute obedience, instill abject fear, and shoot first and ask questions later.
  • This danger comes from greedy, power-hungry bureaucrats on the government payroll who have little to no understanding of their constitutional limits.
  • This danger comes from greedy politicians and corporations for whom profit trumps principle.
  • This danger comes from a surveillance state that grows more and more ominous.
Consider, if you will, all of the dastardly, devious, diabolical, dangerous, debilitating, deceitful, dehumanizing, demonic, depraved, dishonorable, disillusioning, discriminatory, dictatorial schemes inflicted on “we the people” by a bureaucratic, totalitarian regime that has long since ceased to be “a government of the people, by the people and for the people.”
Americans have no protection against police abuse. It is no longer unusual to hear about incidents in which police shoot unarmed individuals first and ask questions later. What remains all-too-usual, however, is the news that the officers involved in these incidents get off with little more than a slap on the hands.
Americans are little more than pocketbooks to fund the police state. If there is any absolute maxim by which the federal government seems to operate, it is that the American taxpayer always gets ripped off. This is true, whether you’re talking about taxpayers being forced to fund high-priced weaponry that will be used against us, endless wars that do little for our safety or our freedoms, bloated government agencies such as the National Security Agency with its secret budgets, covert agendas and clandestine activities.
Americans are no longer innocent until proven guilty. We once operated under the assumption that you were innocent until proven guilty. Due in large part to rapid advances in technology and a heightened surveillance culture, the burden of proof has been shifted so that the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty has been usurped by a new norm in which all citizens are suspects. This is exemplified by police practices of stopping and frisking people who are merely walking down the street and where there is no evidence of wrongdoing. Likewise, by subjecting Americans to full-body scans and license-plate readers without their knowledge or compliance and then storing the scans for later use, the government—in cahoots with the corporate state—has erected the ultimate suspect society. In such an environment, we are all potentially guilty of some wrongdoing or other.
Americans no longer have a right to self-defense. In the wake of various shootings in recent years, “gun control” has become a resounding theme. Those advocating gun reform see the Second Amendment’s right to bear arms as applying only to government officials. As a result, even Americans who legally own firearms are being treated with suspicion and, in some cases, undue violence. In one case, a Texas man had his home subjected to a no-knock raid and was shot in his bed after police, attempting to deliver a routine search warrant, learned that he was in legal possession of a firearm. In another incident, a Florida man who was licensed to carry a concealed firearm found himself detained for two hours during a routine traffic stop in Maryland while the arresting officer searched his vehicle in vain for the man’s gun, which he had left at home.
Americans no longer have a right to private property. If government agents can invade your home, break down your doors, kill your dog, damage your furnishings and terrorize your family, your property is no longer private and secure—it belongs to the government. Likewise, if government officials can fine and arrest you for growing vegetables in your front yard, praying with friends in your living room, installing solar panels on your roof, and raising chickens in your backyard, you’re no longer the owner of your property.
Americans are powerless in the face of militarized police. In early America, citizens were considered equals with law enforcement officials. Authorities were rarely permitted to enter one’s home without permission or in a deceitful manner. And it was not uncommon for police officers to be held personally liable for trespass when they wrongfully invaded a citizen’s home. Unlike today, early Americans could resist arrest when a police officer tried to restrain them without proper justification or a warrant—which the police had to allow citizens to read before arresting them. (Daring to dispute a warrant with a police official today who is armed with high-tech military weapons and tasers would be nothing short of suicidal.) As police forces across the country continue to be transformed into outposts of the military, with police agencies acquiring military-grade hardware in droves, Americans are finding their once-peaceful communities transformed into military outposts, complete with tanks, weaponry, and other equipment designed for the battlefield.
Americans no longer have a right to bodily integrity. Court rulings undermining the Fourth Amendment and justifying invasive strip searches have left us powerless against police empowered to forcefully draw our blood, strip search us, and probe us intimately. It’s no longer unusual to hear accounts of men and women being subjected to what is essentially government-sanctioned rape by police in the course of “routine” traffic stops. What remains to be seen is how the emerging hypervigilance over COVID-19 vaccines will impact that right to bodily integrity.
Americans no longer have a right to the expectation of privacy. Despite the staggering number of revelations about government spying on Americans’ phone calls, Facebook posts, Twitter tweets, Google searches, emails, bookstore and grocery purchases, bank statements, commuter toll records, etc., little to nothing has been done to counteract these abuses. Instead, we are daily being accustomed to life in this electronic concentration camp.
Americans can no longer rely on the courts to mete out justice. The U.S. Supreme Court was intended to be an institution established to intervene and protect the people against the government and its agents when they overstep their bounds. Yet through their deference to police power, preference for security over freedom, and evisceration of our most basic rights for the sake of order and expediency, the justices of the Supreme Court have become the architects of the American police state in which we now live, while the lower courts have appointed themselves courts of order, concerned primarily with advancing the government’s agenda, no matter how unjust or illegal.
Americans no longer have a representative government. We have moved beyond the era of representative government and entered a new age, let’s call it the age of authoritarianism. In fact, a study conducted by Princeton and Northwestern University concluded that the U.S. government does not represent the majority of American citizens. Instead, the study found that the government is ruled by the rich and powerful, or the so-called “economic elite.” Moreover, the researchers concluded that policies enacted by this governmental elite nearly always favor special interests and lobbying groups.
It is not overstating matters to say that Congress, which has done its best to keep their unhappy constituents at a distance, may well be the most self-serving, semi-corrupt institution in America.

In other words, we are being ruled by an oligarchy disguised as a democracy, and arguably on our way towards fascism: a form of government where private corporate interests rule, money calls the shots, and the people are seen as mere subjects to be controlled.

Rest assured that when and if fascism finally takes hold in America, the basic forms of government will remain: Fascism will appear to be friendly. The legislators will be in session. There will be elections, and the news media will continue to cover the entertainment and political trivia. Consent of the governed, however, will no longer apply. Actual control will have finally passed to the oligarchic elite controlling the government behind the scenes.
Sound familiar?

Clearly, we are now ruled by an oligarchic elite of governmental and corporate interests. We have moved into “corporatism” (favored by Benito Mussolini), which is a halfway point on the road to full-blown fascism.

Corporatism is where the few moneyed interests—not elected by the citizenry—rule over the many.


History may show that from this point forward, we will have left behind any semblance of constitutional government and entered into a totalitarian state where all citizens are suspects and security trumps freedom.

Even with its constantly shifting terrain, this topsy-turvy travesty of law and government has become America’s new normal.

From Clinton to Bush, Obama to Trump, and now Biden, it’s as if we’ve been caught in a time loop, forced to re-live the same thing over and over again: the same assaults on our freedoms, the same disregard for the rule of law, the same subservience to the Deep State, and the same corrupt, self-serving government that exists only to amass power, enrich its shareholders and ensure its continued domination.

As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, the powers-that-be want us to remain distracted, divided, alienated from each other based on our politics, our bank accounts, our religion, our race and our value systems.



Yet as George Orwell observed, “The real division is not between conservatives and revolutionaries but between authoritarians and libertarians.”
 

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Senate Votes Trump Impeachment Trial Constitutional, Six Republicans Break Ranks

TUESDAY, FEB 09, 2021 - 16:03
Update (1732ET): The US Senate on Tuesday voted 56-44 that it is constitutional to hold an impeachment trial against Former President Donald Trump.

Highlights:

  • Lead Democratic impeachment manager Jamie Raskin played a video montage of Trump encouraging his followers to attend the January 6 "Stop the Steal" rally, followed by footage of mayhem.
  • Raskin cited several conservative legal scholars who have said it's constitutional to impeach an official after they've left office.
  • He then listed examples of Constitutional framers discussing the threshold for impeachment, suggesting that it's "inconceivable" that it wouldn't apply to actions committed during a president's last few days in office.
  • Trump's counsel argued that Democrats want to impeach Trump to prevent him from running again in 2024, and conceded that the Trump legal team changed their presentation "on account that we thought that the House managers' presentation was well done."
  • Castor then argued that Democrats got what they wanted when Trump was voted out of office.
  • Schoen then showed a video of Democrats calling for Trump's impeachment beginning in 2017, before arguing that the House conducted a "snap impeachment" following the Jan. 6 riot.
  • He then argued that because Trump is a private citizen and cannot be removed from office, the trial is unconstitutional - with which 44 GOP Senators agreed.
The 56-44 vote means that the trial will begin in earnest tomorrow. All Democrats and the following six Republicans voted to proceed: Sens. Cassidy (R-LA), Romney (R-UT), Collins (R-ME), Toomey (R-PA), Murkowski (R-AK) and Sasse (R-NE).
The vote is 44-56 on the constitutional issue. Virtually the same as the earlier vote. That means that 44 senators are now on record that the trial in unconstitutional. That would appear to make acquittal effectively certain given this threshold vote... “Dead Letter”: Almost Half Of The Senate Votes In Support Of Motion Challenging The Constitutionality Of A Second Trump Trial
— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) February 9, 2021
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Update (1602ET): Trump attorney Bruce Castor Jr. began Trump's legal defense by condemning those responsible for the violence at the Capitol.

"You will never hear anybody representing former President Trump say anything at all other than, what happened on January 6th in the storming and the breaching of the Capitol should be denounced in the most vigorous terms," he said, before arguing that it's unconstitutional for the Senate to hold a trial to convict a former president, and suggesting that Democrats are really impeaching Trump to bar him from running in the future.
"We are really here because the majority in the House of Representatives does not want to face Donald Trump as a political rival in the future," Trump impeachment lawyer Bruce Castor argues. Trump impeachment trial live updates: Trump not happy with defense team's performance: Sources #impeachmenttrial pic.twitter.com/JrO8Uz3Zoj
— This Week (@ThisWeekABC) February 9, 2021
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1359242094276149249
.43 min

Constitutional attorney Jonathan Turley, an impeachment witness during Trump's first Senate trial, appears largely unimpressed, though agreed with Castor making a "Rule 23" argument.

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I am surprised by the long discussion of the Senate before getting to such concrete arguments. There is also no focus on the retroactive trial issue as a foreshadowing of the case for dismissal.
— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) February 9, 2021
Turley then suggested Trump's legal team get to the heart of the constitutional question.
...The defense has eaten roughly half of its time without landing a glove on the constitutional questions. Schoen was said to be the one who would present an "erudite" analysis of the constitutional issue.
— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) February 9, 2021
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Attorney Alan Dershowitz, a member of Trump's first impeachment defense team, is similarly unimpressed - telling Newsmax "I have no idea what he is doing," referring to Castor (h/t @joshdcaplan).
'There is no argument - I have no idea what he is doing,' @AlanDersh on Trump's defense lawyer Bruce Castor 'talking nice' to U.S. Senators - via Newsmax TV's 'American Agenda.' https://t.co/VlT7z8drtO pic.twitter.com/7P7uVk5X19
— Newsmax (@newsmax) February 9, 2021
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1359238590044209157
1:46 min

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Update (1547ET): House Democrats' lead impeachment manager, Rep. Jamie Raskin began the day playing a clip of Trump encouraging his supporters to show up at the Capitol - leaving out the part where Trump told them to conduct themselves "patriotically and peacefully." Raskin then showed a montage of the 'storming', recorded at least in part by a BLM activist who participated in the 'insurrection.'

View: https://youtu.be/ivVOPWrFfW4
13:25 min

At one point Raskin invoked his dead son, who committed suicide days before the 'insurrection.'
Raskin's son committed suicide days before the Capitol siege, and left behind a note:

"Please forgive me. My illness won today. Please look after each other, the animals, and the global poor for me. All my love, Tommy." https://t.co/rPu0bZvkaJ
— Greg Miller (@gregpmiller) February 9, 2021
Raskin then asks if inciting the riot isn't an impeachable offense, nothing is - as Trump started a "violent insurrection."

Next, Rep. Joe Neguse (D-CO) argued why the impeachment was constitutional, saying that the chamber has found on multiple occasions that a person can be tried after leaving office. Neguse then argued that if Trump is vindicated, officials could commit heinous acts and then just resign before an impeachment.
Rep. Joe Neguse (D-CO) on the constitutionality of former Pres. Trump's second Senate impeachment trial:

"There is no January exception to the impeachment power, that presidents can't commit grave offenses in their final days and escape any congressional response." pic.twitter.com/wwCbWgaNpl
— CBS Evening News (@CBSEveningNews) February 9, 2021
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1359212532217610243
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Next, Rep. Ciciline (D-RI) argued that impeachment 'protects our constitutional system' and safeguards Democracy - suggesting that things could have gotten far worse during the riot, as participants "could have killed" all of them.
House impeachment manager Rep. David Cicilline: "This was a disaster of historic proportion...and make no mistake about it, as you think about that day, things could have been much worse. As one senator said, they could have killed all of us." Trump impeachment trial live updates: Trump not happy with defense team's performance: Sources pic.twitter.com/hewwf0uciC
— This Week (@ThisWeekABC) February 9, 2021
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1359221307188142081
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Former President Trump's second impeachment trial begins on Tuesday, and is expected to begin at 1 p.m. ET. Up to four hours will be equally divided between the House impeachment managers and Trump's legal team to present arguments regarding the constitutionality of the trial.

The Senate will then hold a simple majority vote on whether the chamber has jurisdiction to try Trump. If it's a 'yes,' the trial will proceed on Wednesday - where House Managers and Trump's defense will each have 16 hours over two days to make their arguments.

Watch :
View: https://youtu.be/0rkNvuyoeQE
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The big day has finally arrived: After weeks of lead-up, the first session in Trump's impeachment trial will feature presentations from both sides over the Senate’s authority to hear the case, followed by a vote on the matter, which would require a simple majority, and is expected to pass in the Democratic-controlled chamber.

As many as five GOP senators, including Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah and Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, previously sided with Democrats on a question regarding the constitutionality of trying the former president, however at least 17 Republicans will need to join all 50 Democrats to reach the 67 votes required to convict Trump.

Presidents do not get a free pass to commit high crimes and misdemeanors near the end of their term,” impeachment managers argued in a brief last week, regarding their contention that Trump incited the Jan 6. Capitol Riot, during which a small group of Trump supporters walked through an open door and 'stormed' the Capitol complex.

On Monday, Trump’s lawyers said the president didn’t incite the crowd and that the rioters who breached the Capitol “did so of their own accord and for their own reasons," adding that Trump used the word “fight” a “little more than a handful of times and each time in the figurative sense,” making no explicit mention of rioting. Defense attorneys added that the president was exercising his First Amendment rights.

Democratic impeachment managers, acting as prosecutors during the trial, responded in their own five-page brief, saying Trump “has no valid excuse or defense” for his actions. “His efforts to escape accountability are entirely unraveling."

This is how the trial is expected to unfold, via CNet:
  • Feb. 9: There will be four hours of debate equally divided between prosecutors and defense on whether the trial is constitutional, followed by a vote needing a simply majority to proceed
  • Feb. 10, 12:00 p.m. ET: House of Representatives will begin arguing its case; prosecutors and defense will have up to 16 hours each to present their arguments, with neither side permitted to present for more than eight hours per day
  • Feb. 12, 5:00 p.m. ET: The trial will break through Saturday
  • Feb. 14, 2:00 p.m. ET: The trial will reconvene Sunday
  • Arguments will be followed by four hours for senators' questions
  • If the House impeachment managers want to call witnesses or subpoena documents, there will be two hours of debate by each side followed by a Senate vote on whether to allow this
  • If witnesses are called, there will be enough time given to depose them, and for each party to complete discovery before testimony is given
  • Once witnesses and evidence is dealt with, there will be four hours of closing arguments divided evenly between the prosecutors and defense
  • Lastly will come the vote on conviction or acquittal, for which a two-thirds majority is required
Trump will not testify - having "immediately rejected" the opportunity following a letter from the House's lead impeachment manager, Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) asking the former president to testify under oath. Trump attorney Bruce Castor called the letter a "publicity stunt" before announcing the refusal - which the House will allege "supports a strong adverse inference regarding [his] actions and inaction on January 6."

In the off-chance Trump is convicted in the Senate, there will be a separate vote to bar him from running again - preventing a potential 2024 bid. It would require a simple majority where Vice President Kamala Harris would serve as a tie-breaker if needed. They can further disqualify Trump from the benefits given to former presidents in the Post Presidents Act - including pulling Trump's Secret Service security detail, travel allowance and pension.

Impeached presidents also can't be pardoned, according to CNet, which notes that if acquitted, Trump would have access to all benefits of former US presidents, and would be able to run again for public office.
 

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Trump was quite displeased with his impeachment defense team

The former president was frustrated with the meandering arguments. Some close to his defense team quit watching.
Trump attorneys

David Schoen, left, and Bruce Castor Jr., right, lawyers for former President Donald Trump arrive for the second impeachment trial of Trump at the Capitol on Tuesday. | Andrew Harnik/AP Photo
By GABBY ORR and MERIDITH MCGRAW

02/09/2021 05:57 PM EST
Updated: 02/09/2021 08:20 PM EST

For former President Donald Trump, the opening day of his second impeachment trial did not go as planned or to his liking.

Cocooned at his Mar-a-Lago estate, Trump watched as his defense attorneys responded to an emotional presentation by House impeachment managers with a series of dry, technical and at times meandering arguments about due process and the constitutionality of the proceedings. As they droned on, he grew increasingly frustrated with the sharp contrast between their muted response and the prosecution’s opening salvo, according to two people familiar with his thinking.

"President Trump was not happy with the performance of his legal team in action,” said one of the people familiar with his thinking.

It didn’t help that his lead attorney, former Pennsylvania prosecutor Bruce Castor, name-checked Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), who just days ago slammed his state party for their “weird worship” of Trump. Castor also referred to Trump as the “former president,” conceding that he had in fact lost the 2020 election when he was removed by “smart” voters last November.

Trump, according to those familiar with his thinking, saw his legal team’s performance as a missed opportunity and also was annoyed by the public criticism of his attorneys. And he wasn’t the only one.

The Capitol building

BY POLITICO STAFF
Some people close to the president’s defense team said they quit watching the proceedings out of sheer frustration with Castor’s presentation and were confused by his refusal to use graphics or a video––tools his TV-obsessed client had hoped to deploy.

At one point during Castor’s remarks, the right-wing network Newsmax––which Trump had been watching throughout the day, according to a person familiar with his viewing habits––cut away to a segment featuring the ex-president’s former impeachment attorney Alan Dershowitz.

“I have no idea what he is doing,” Dershowitz said of Castor, shaking his head dismissively. “The American people are entitled to an argument… but this, just, after all kinds of very strong presentations on the part of the House managers… it does not appear to me to be effective advocacy.”

Dershowitz’s assessment was later shared on Twitter by Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fl.), a steadfast Trump ally who offered to resign from Congress last week to represent Trump himself.

“Explosive interview,” Gaetz said of the clip.


George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley, who met with GOP senators ahead of the trial to brief them on theories about its constitutionality, suggested Castor spent too much time focusing on extraneous arguments before arriving at the core of Trump’s defense.
 

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Trump supporters are the real target of this sham impeachment

The claim that Democrats and some Republicans are trying to convict private citizen Donald Trump to prevent him from running again is a lie. They're wanting to teach his supporters a lesson. We discuss this, federalism, and the proposed minimum wage tax hike on this episode.
by JD Rucker
February 9, 2021

Is this really about keeping President Trump out of future office? That’s what Democrats and even some Republicans are giving as an excuse to continue with the impeachment trial in the Senate this week. Is that the real reason? No. Even if we dismiss this idiocy of trying to ban an American and a former president from running for office over the false evidence they used to impeach him in the first place, there’s an even bigger reason they’re lying.

Allegedly, they beat him in the 2020 election. While millions of Americans believe that it was a rigged election, mainstream media has declared it anathema to discuss voter fraud. If they beat him fair and square, then the last thing they should want to do is bar him from running in 2024. When someone was beatable once, they should be easier to beat the second time. That is, unless there was rampant, widespread voter fraud and a massive cover-up afterwards.

And still there are more reasons this couldn’t be the reason for the impeachment trial of a private citizen. All we need to do is look at the case of Alcee Hastings. According to ABC News:

In near-daily meetings, Democratic impeachment managers and lawyers have been discussing how to best make their case to the narrowly divided Senate — focusing on the seventeen Republicans required to convict Trump and the desire to bar him from seeking office in the future. The vote to bar Trump from holding any elected office would require a simple majority, following a vote to convict from two-thirds of the Senate.

Bryon Preston at PJ Media reported yesterday in an article titled, “If Impeaching Trump Is About Preventing Him From Holding Future Office, Why Is Democrat Alcee Hastings So Powerful in the House?“:

He was impeached by the United States House of Representatives and convicted by the Senate. He was kicked out of his judgeship in 1989.
So what happened after Hastings’ shameful episode in which he was convicted of serious criminal corruption in office? Was he tossed out of polite society never to be heard from again? Did the Democrats shun him and prevent him from ever holding federal office again?

Sadly, no. Four years later he ran for the U.S. House — a federal office — from Florida and he won. He joined the House Democratic caucus and is still in the House to this very day.

This is about impeaching US. Yes, they want to get their revenge against President Trump. That’s definitely part of it. But the primary reason to hold this impeachment sham hearing is to convict US, Trump-supporters, and to gaslight us into believing we were mistaken to embrace the notion of making America great again.

Allegedly defeating him was not enough, and they realize this now that his support has only grown since Inauguration Day. They feel the need to destroy our spirits and condemn us for our conservative beliefs. That is the primary reason they’re moving forward with an impeachment trial that is bound to fail.
This is about globalism. It’s about convicting the truth. It’s about advancing their Neo-Marxist plans, as we discussed in the latest episode of NOQ Report. We also discussed rising federalism and the minimum wage debacle.

States move to take back their rights against the Biden regime
From a NOQ Report article earlier today:

Limited-government federalism is what most of the founders envisioned as a permanent ideology guiding this nation through history. They wanted power divided not only between branches of government but also between the jurisdictions. Thomas Jefferson wanted a government in which states were supreme. Alexander Hamilton wanted states and the national government to share powers. What we have today would be opposed by both as Washington DC holds supremacy against the Constitution itself.

States are pushing back. We started seeing this happening under Barack Obama as conservative states went after the federal government over his massive overreach. Then, Democrats learned to embrace federalism under President Trump, particularly as it pertained to sanctuary status and immigration policies. Now, Republican states are pushing back against the Biden regime, which in its early days has already demonstrated a willingness to overstep their boundaries more so than his two predecessors.

The minimum wage hike is more than a job-killer. It’s a nation killer.

From a NOQ Report article yesterday:

The 1.4 million jobs projected by the OMB is likely low. The “nonpartisan” group has been notoriously bad at predicting anything. But if we look more closely at the other effects of a minimum wage hike, that’s where it becomes a clearly existential threat.

There’s an evolution that happens to businesses based on progress, both technological and societal. The carriage industry didn’t fail. It was replaced by the automotive industry. Currently, we’re seeing an evolution in many industries as automation and technological replacements for workers are becoming more prevalent. Many fast food restaurants are reducing their workforce by incorporating ordering kiosks, for example. But Biden’s minimum wage hike will accelerate the evolution unnaturally. As I noted in the latest episode of Conservative News Briefs, it will be like watching industries walking carefully down the stairs representing the evolution of their business models, only to be shoved down those stairs by the minimum wage hike.

An impeachment trial that cannot succeed against a man they want to disappear makes no sense on its surface. But when we take into account the effect they desire for it to have on his base, it becomes clear we’re the real targets.
 
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Trump supporters are the real target of this sham impeachment

The claim that Democrats and some Republicans are trying to convict private citizen Donald Trump to prevent him from running again is a lie. They're wanting to teach his supporters a lesson. We discuss this, federalism, and the proposed minimum wage tax hike on this episode.
by JD Rucker
February 9, 2021

Is this really about keeping President Trump out of future office? That’s what Democrats and even some Republicans are giving as an excuse to continue with the impeachment trial in the Senate this week. Is that the real reason? No. Even if we dismiss this idiocy of trying to ban an American and a former president from running for office over the false evidence they used to impeach him in the first place, there’s an even bigger reason they’re lying.

Allegedly, they beat him in the 2020 election. While millions of Americans believe that it was a rigged election, mainstream media has declared it anathema to discuss voter fraud. If they beat him fair and square, then the last thing they should want to do is bar him from running in 2024. When someone was beatable once, they should be easier to beat the second time. That is, unless there was rampant, widespread voter fraud and a massive cover-up afterwards.

And still there are more reasons this couldn’t be the reason for the impeachment trial of a private citizen. All we need to do is look at the case of Alcee Hastings. According to ABC News:



Bryon Preston at PJ Media reported yesterday in an article titled, “If Impeaching Trump Is About Preventing Him From Holding Future Office, Why Is Democrat Alcee Hastings So Powerful in the House?“:



This is about impeaching US. Yes, they want to get their revenge against President Trump. That’s definitely part of it. But the primary reason to hold this impeachment sham hearing is to convict US, Trump-supporters, and to gaslight us into believing we were mistaken to embrace the notion of making America great again.

Allegedly defeating him was not enough, and they realize this now that his support has only grown since Inauguration Day. They feel the need to destroy our spirits and condemn us for our conservative beliefs. That is the primary reason they’re moving forward with an impeachment trial that is bound to fail.
This is about globalism. It’s about convicting the truth. It’s about advancing their Neo-Marxist plans, as we discussed in the latest episode of NOQ Report. We also discussed rising federalism and the minimum wage debacle.

States move to take back their rights against the Biden regime
From a NOQ Report article earlier today:

Limited-government federalism is what most of the founders envisioned as a permanent ideology guiding this nation through history. They wanted power divided not only between branches of government but also between the jurisdictions. Thomas Jefferson wanted a government in which states were supreme. Alexander Hamilton wanted states and the national government to share powers. What we have today would be opposed by both as Washington DC holds supremacy against the Constitution itself.

States are pushing back. We started seeing this happening under Barack Obama as conservative states went after the federal government over his massive overreach. Then, Democrats learned to embrace federalism under President Trump, particularly as it pertained to sanctuary status and immigration policies. Now, Republican states are pushing back against the Biden regime, which in its early days has already demonstrated a willingness to overstep their boundaries more so than his two predecessors.

The minimum wage hike is more than a job-killer. It’s a nation killer.

From a NOQ Report article yesterday:

The 1.4 million jobs projected by the OMB is likely low. The “nonpartisan” group has been notoriously bad at predicting anything. But if we look more closely at the other effects of a minimum wage hike, that’s where it becomes a clearly existential threat.

There’s an evolution that happens to businesses based on progress, both technological and societal. The carriage industry didn’t fail. It was replaced by the automotive industry. Currently, we’re seeing an evolution in many industries as automation and technological replacements for workers are becoming more prevalent. Many fast food restaurants are reducing their workforce by incorporating ordering kiosks, for example. But Biden’s minimum wage hike will accelerate the evolution unnaturally. As I noted in the latest episode of Conservative News Briefs, it will be like watching industries walking carefully down the stairs representing the evolution of their business models, only to be shoved down those stairs by the minimum wage hike.

An impeachment trial that cannot succeed against a man they want to disappear makes no sense on its surface. But when we take into account the effect they desire for it to have on his base, it becomes clear we’re the real targets.
Yea these many years ago, there was talk of a $10.00 min wage. Asked McDonald type how would they handle that. Said plans for automation were already available. Two-three people on duty, one clean up, one to load the machines and one to take money. (Don't need him anymore)

Gonna see a lot of automation.
 

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The "peaceful transition of power" Swallowell keeps talking about happened. The USA became a vassal state of the CCP.
 

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Banana Republic: Impartial Impeachment “Judge” Votes With Democrats in Vote to Impeach Private Citizen

By Jim Hoft
Published February 10, 2021 at 7:40am
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This is what happens in banana republics and Joseph Stalin’s Soviet Union.
Democrats don’t care.

The Senate impeachment “judge” voted on Tuesday to proceed with the impeachment of private citizen Donald Trump.

Far-left Senator Patrick Leahy is acting as witness, juror and judge in this sham proceeding.

What a crock.


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Louisiana Republican Party Rebukes Senator Cassidy for Voting To Move Forward on Unconstitutional Impeachment of President Trump

By Joe Hoft
Published February 10, 2021 at 7:55am
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In yesterday’s Senate vote on whether the Democrats’ latest impeachment attempt of President Trump was constitutional, six Republicans backed the unconstitutional impeachment. Senator Cassidy from Louisiana has already been censored by Louisiana Republicans for doing so.

As was reported yesterday, Senator Cassiday joined five other Republicans to support the unconstitutional impeachment of a President no longer in office:


Senator Cassidy joined the other five usual suspects and the Democrats who just stole the 2020 election in voting to suggest this mess should move forward. The Supreme Court doesn’t necessarily agree with it since the Chief Justice, who is constitutionally required to oversee Presidential impeachments, refused to oversee this impeachment. Not to mention, the President is no longer in office and therefore cannot be removed from office.

The entire process of this impeachment is even worse than the last Democrat unconstitutional and corrupt impeachment. With this one there was no investigation, the Democrats didn’t investigate this in a committee, then they lied at least 75 times in their impeachment report:


So yesterday, Senator Cassidy decided to ignore all the information concerning the theft of this election and voted along with the Democrats and those who hate President Trump.

As a result of his horrible lack of judgment, the people of Louisiana rebuked the Senator last night. The Hill reports:
The Louisiana Republican Party on Tuesday issued a rebuke of Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) over his vote declaring that former President Trump’s impeachment trial is constitutional.
Cassidy joined five other Republican senators and every Democrat in the upper chamber in rejecting an attempt to derail the proceedings. Cassidy had previously supported an effort by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) that would have declared the trial unconstitutional and was the only lawmaker to vote for that measure and flip Tuesday to say the trial can proceed. Cassidy also later said Trump’s defense team was “disorganized.”
“The Republican Party of Louisiana is profoundly disappointed by Senator Bill Cassidy’s vote on the constitutionality of the impeachment trial now underway against former President, now private citizen, Donald J. Trump,” the party said in a statement.
“We feel that an impeachment trial of a private citizen is not only an unconstitutional act, but also an attack on the very foundation of American democracy, which will have far reaching and unforeseen consequences for our republic,” it added.
Cassidy and most all the politicians in Washington DC are destroying their careers and the country by not facing the truth – the 2020 election was stolen by the Democrats and others in the greatest steal in world history.
 

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Dirty Mitch McConnell Declines to Whip GOP Senators for Acquittal of President Trump
By Jim Hoft
Published February 10, 2021 at 1:35pm

On January 6th, President Donald Trump spoke to over 500,000 supporters at the Stop the Steal rally in Washington DC.

The rally was the last-ditch attempt to prevent the theft of the 2020 presidential election.

During his speech, President Trump told the crowd, “I know that everyone here will soon be walking over the Capitol Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

The chaos at the US Capitol had already started before President Trump even finished his speech.

There was also an Antifa rally scheduled near the US Capitol at 11 AM that day.

The next week Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told reporter he believes President Trump committed impeachable offenses.

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And now there are reports that McConnell is not pushing Republican Senators to acquit President Trump in the latest impeachment scam. In fact, McConnell does not know yet how he will vote!

Bloomberg reported:
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is signaling to fellow Republicans that the final vote on Donald Trump’s impeachment is matter of conscience and that senators who disputed the constitutionality of the trial could still vote to convict the former president, according to three people familiar with his thinking.
The Kentucky Republican has also suggested that he hasn’t made up his mind how he’ll vote, two of the people said, even though he voted Tuesday to declare it unconstitutional for the Senate to hear the case against a former president.
That position is starkly different than McConnell’s declaration at the start of Trump’s first impeachment trial last year that he did not consider himself an impartial juror.
 

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Dirty Mitch McConnell Declines to Whip GOP Senators for Acquittal of President Trump
By Jim Hoft
Published February 10, 2021 at 1:35pm

On January 6th, President Donald Trump spoke to over 500,000 supporters at the Stop the Steal rally in Washington DC.

The rally was the last-ditch attempt to prevent the theft of the 2020 presidential election.

During his speech, President Trump told the crowd, “I know that everyone here will soon be walking over the Capitol Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

The chaos at the US Capitol had already started before President Trump even finished his speech.

There was also an Antifa rally scheduled near the US Capitol at 11 AM that day.

The next week Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told reporter he believes President Trump committed impeachable offenses.

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And now there are reports that McConnell is not pushing Republican Senators to acquit President Trump in the latest impeachment scam. In fact, McConnell does not know yet how he will vote!

Bloomberg reported:
Through his wife the CCP will tell him how to vote
 

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Episode 8: ‪Dems Just Undermined Their Own Case By Relying On CNN!!!‬
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Democrat impeachment managers relied on a false CNN news segment to make their case for the impeachment of Donald J. Trump.

EP9: The Gaping Holes in the Democrat Impeachment Case. 31:59 min
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Episode 9: ‪The Gaping Holes In The Democrat Impeachment Case
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Raheem points out some pretty horrific case management by Democrats. But will Republican lawyers pounce?! Don’t hold your breath.

EP9: The Gaping Holes in the Democrat Impeachment Case. 36:35 min
 

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Keep it up REPUKES>>>>>There ain't gonna be a "weaker" party to kowtow to the DEMON-RATS!!!
 

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House impeachment managers play new Capitol security footage to make case rioters targeted Pence

The House impeachment managers are presenting evidence to back up their argument that Trump incited the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

Video on website 2:01 min
By Nicholas BallasyUpdated: February 10, 2021 - 5:17pm

impeachment managers are presenting evidence on the second day of former President Trump's impeachment trial on Wednesday to back up their argument that Trump incited the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

Maryland Democratic Rep. Jamie Raskin, the lead impeachment manager, was the first to speak on the floor. Raskin called Jan. 6 a day that "will live in disgrace in history" unless you ask Trump. Raskin cited Trump's tweet from late in the afternoon of Jan. 6 to support his argument.

Raskin said Trump's actions leading up to the violent protest on Jan. 6 were "much worse" than shouting "fire" in a crowded theater.

"It's more like a case where the town fire chief who is paid to put out fires sends a mob not to yell fire in a crowded theater, but to actually set the theater on fire," he said.

"These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long," Trump tweeted.

In January 2017, Raskin objected to certifying the results of Florida for then-presidential candidate Donald Trump but the objection did not move forward because it was not co-signed by a senator.

Democratic Colorado Rep. Joe Neguse presented after Raskin. Neguse played a clip of protesters saying, "Fight for Trump." Neguse said it was Trump's role to stop the violence that was happening at the Capitol on Jan. 6.

"He alone, our commander in chief, had the power to stop it and he didn't," he said, adding that Democrats will present evidence to support their argument. "You will see that even when he did, 3 and a half hours into the attack, tell these people to go home in peace, he added, as lead manager Raskin said, I'll quote, 'You're very special. We love you.'"

Texas Democratic Rep. Joaquin Castro played a video of Trump saying on Nov. 4 that he won the presidential election while votes were still being counted. Castro said Trump "never" recanted his statement since that time.

"This is the commander in chief telling his supporters your election is being stolen and you must stop the counting of American votes, and it worked. His words became their actions," he said, referring to the riot on Jan. 6.

California Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell said Trump "wanted to make his base angrier and angrier" ahead of the Jan. 6 "Save America" rally.

"To make them angry he was willing to say anything," he said, referring to a Nov. 15 tweet from Trump where the former president said he concedes nothing and "we have a long way to go."

Swalwell showed a tweet from pro-Trump activist Jennifer Lynn Lawrence which was re-tweeted by Trump ahead of the Jan. 6 rally. Lawrence said in the tweet that "we are bringing the Calvary Mr. President."

"This was not just any old protest," Swalwell said. "President Trump was inciting something historic. The Calvary was coming. And he was organized."

Pennsylvania Democratic Rep. Madeleine Dean said the House impeachment managers have laid out evidence that Trump engaged in a "months long effort to incite his base, leading them to believe the election was stolen, that they needed to fight like hell to stop the steal on January the 6th."

Dean said she was presenting evidence of Trump's "relentless escalating campaign to fabricate an election victory by ignoring adverse court rulings, pressuring and threatening election officials, attacking senators and members of Congress."

Dean cited Trump's call into a state Republican meeting in Pennsylvania on Nov. 25 as an attempt to personally intervene in the certification of election results.
California Democratic Rep. Ted Lieu praised former Vice President Mike Pence for certifying the presidential election results despite Trump's public criticism of Pence.

"Thankfully, Vice President Pence stood his ground like our other brave officials stood their ground to refuse the president and fulfill his duty on January 6, even after the capital was attacked and even after he was personally targeted, even after his family was targeted. Vice President Pence stood strong and certified the election," Lieu said.

"Vice President Pence showed us what it means to be an American, what it means to show courage. He put his country, his oath, his values and his morals above the will of one man. The president has tried everything in his power to seize seize, everything in his attempt to seize power from the rightful victor of election," he added.

Democratic Rep. Stacey Plaskett, who represents the Virgin Islands, said the violence that occurred on Jan. 6 was "foreseeable." Plaskett connected Trump's statement about the Proud Boys during the first presidential debate to the Jan. 6 riot.

"The group adopted that phrase, stand back and stand by, as their official slogan," she said. "They created merchandise with their new slogan, which they wore proudly across their backs at Trump's rallies and they followed the president's orders."

During Plaskett's second presentation at the trial, Plaskett played never before heard audio of Metropolitan Police Department officers reporting violence occurring at the Capitol on Jan. 6. At 1:49pm, an officer can be heard declaring the protest a riot.

Never before seen Capitol security footage was also played showing rioters breaking windows of the Capitol Building and gaining access to the inside. Additional security footage showed Pence and his family members being evacuated after rioters stormed the building. Plaskett then queued up footage of protests at the rally chanting, "bring out Pence." Plaskett said Pence was the "target of their wrath after Pence refused to overturn the election results."

The House impeachment managers and Trump's defense presented on Tuesday, the first day of the trial.

Following their presentations, senators voted 56-44 to let the trial proceed as constitutional. Republican Louisiana Sen. Bill Cassidy was one of the six GOP senators to side with Democrats in voting to proceed with the trial.

"This is a constitutional question, and clearly it had been established that it is constitutional and the Constitution obviously becomes, it is Constitution and country over party," Cassidy told reporters on Wednesday. "For some, they get it, and for others, they are not quite so sure, but that's to be expected. This does not predict my vote on anything else. It does predict that I will listen to these arguments, as I did to the arguments yesterday, with an open mind."
 

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The coup is not done yet! | The Price of Liberty

The coup is not done yet!
Posted on February 10, 2021 by TPOL Nathan

With the beginning of the show trial impeachment in the Senate, it seems that the coup continues.

I’m reading more and more people writing about the way in which the electorate and the election system has been manipulated to “save the nation” and the world from the evils of The Donald and all the rest. Others claim that Trump intentionally threw the election, making appointments and actions intended to result in his defeat. Still others claim that there are multiple factions, in and out of factions. Playing “4D chess” as they expand their control – or cut the pie a bit differently.

Generally with a coup, you have some idea of who and what is behind it. And who gains from it. Even if they try to conceal themselves. That may not be the case this time – certainly there is reason to believe that Biden is just as much a tool as anyone else. And while we may think we see his puppet strings, who is pulling them?

A reader shared this article from Time with me – The Secret Bipartisan Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election | Time
The article seems open boasting about a successful conspiracy to steal the election: celebrating the victory of the Deep State/Permanent Bureaucracy and its supporters and controllers. This is understandable as a coup – against whatever power the people of these States still have. Many claim this has killed the Republic.

Of course, I have long held that the Republic has been dead for a long time – as with the SPQR, many of the names and procedures and traditions survive but the actual real republic has been dead for a century. But then, I was raised by my parents and taught in the old Army that Republics eventually decay into Democracies which then become Mobocracies (mob rule) and swiftly turn into Tyrannies. There are (which I did not think about for years) TWO forms of “mob.” There is the street mob – what Romans and Byzantine called the Street Senate. And then there is the OTHER mob – the organized crime: the “legal” versions of the Cosa Nostra, the Mafia, the Cartel: the often-interlocking cabals of bureaucrats, industry, media, academia, and financial powers.
So was it a coup, or just another shift in relative power – adjusting the power and profit sharing?

Part of the problem is that what some people call an elite conspiracy is in no way really united. There are multiple factions all vying for dominance and more than their “fair share” of the loot – tangible or intangible. This is nothing new, of course. It no doubt was the case back when Nimrod first rejected the sovereignty of God to declare himself more than a family head or clan chief. And once King (or Emperor) Nimrod died and was elevated to bogus godhood, his successors squabbled over the spoils of being parasites on once-free people.

Many people say that this coup against the remaining elements of the old Republic was simply one of those fusses and feuds over power and loot. That Trump was just as much a stooge (or tactfully, figurehead) for one cabal of powers-that-be, as Biden seems to be now that HE is in the Oval Office. Just for a different faction.

Others claim that Trump, despite his foibles, was genuinely leading an effort – a movement – to reestablish (establish?) a republic. And that he was upsetting the applecart of the elite cabal – even at least SOME of the enemies of liberty.

Whatever is the truth – and whatever you or I believe – the results are the same. Events and actions have created a situation which some (or many) factions are now taking advantage of to seize more power, grab more wealth, and consolidate their positions. Simply put, to take away more liberty from more people.
WHY? Besides the obvious greed, lust, and ambition?

Two fairly large groups of people see it with completely different blinders. Both of these groups claim that they are “saving the nation.”

One side wants to defend what is left of the American ideal and traditions, with the goal of ultimately restoring them and creating conditions to promote peace and prosperity. In a system where everyone has the opportunity to succeed by their own efforts and as they choose.

The other side wants to bring “America” into the 21st Century: to make us more like much of the rest of the world in which people mostly accept their place in the world. In which we all enjoy peace and prosperity in a system run by the elite and their helpers. In which people are rescued from their own mistakes and those of others by wise leaders.

Clearly, as a lover of liberty, as a free-market anarchist, and as a follower of Christ Jesus, my sympathies are somewhat more with the first group. Or at least with the ideals they espouse. And right now, I don’t see that group winning a whole lot.

Does that amount to a coup? A revolution? (Or as I like to say, a counter-revolution?) From my point of view, that makes sense. Other libertarians may disagree. Certainly the vast majority of Americans will.

Which is why we need to look beyond the rhetoric and the claims and see what is going on and what is really happening. To make up our own minds based on knowledge and not myths or propaganda.
 

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Condoning violence, questioning election legitimacy? Trumpers look to expose Dems' own incitement

"Many on the Trump team are excited that he's actually going to be able to embarrass ... the congressional leaders who voted for this," said Jessie Jane Duff, co-chair of Veterans for Trump.

By Carrie Sheffield
Updated: February 10, 2021 - 12:39pm

Even as Democrats present their case for convicting President Trump of allegedly inciting a violent insurrection on Capitol Hill, Republicans say they can use the occasion to go on offense and embarrass Democrats for their own rhetoric.

The public record is rife with statements from Democratic lawmakers that challenge the legitimacy of Republican electoral victories and could, if interpreted literally, be construed to encourage physical confrontation of conservatives.

"So the hypocrisy is actually to President Trump's advantage," Jessie Jane Duff, co-chair of Veterans for Trump, told "Just the News AM" program on Tuesday.

"Many on the Trump team are excited that he's actually going to be able to embarrass the Senate, he's going to be able to embarrass the congressional leaders who voted for this, because their words and actions have directly suggested ... what they're trying to deflect and say that he has done. We know that the evidence shows that he did not create this, did not design this, that the Capitol riots were essentially already pre-planned."

Among possible examples to be shared by Republicans during the impeachment trial:
Trump's defenders are also likely to point to cases of Democrats objecting to the results of elections, including:
"Well, what I hear is that we can all agree that we have to have election reform," said Duff.

"So why is it we want election reform when our guy loses, but not when the other guy wins? It just is hypocrisy."

Duff called for reforms like voter ID, signature verification, protections against dead people voting, auditing voter rolls to ensure that people who don't even live in the state aren't voting, and more.

"There is massive election reform to be done," Duff said. "And the Democrats have screamed for this, until they win. So let's do it. Game on. I'm all for it. And I see this hypocrisy as really grating Americans' nerves."
 
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