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Israel News Feed @IsraelHatzolah · 1m

BREAKING: Death toll in Gaza since launch of Operation Protective Edge up to 23 Dead, 122 wounded.
 

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It's a photo that shows the bleak future that is to come for Gaza: plumes of dark smoke greeted residents of Israel and Palestine as they woke up Tuesday morning, signaling entrance into a dangerous new phase for the conflict.
 

Lilbitsnana

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Israel News Feed @IsraelHatzolah · 34s

RIGHT NOW: Red Siren alarms sounding in Kissufim.



Israel News Feed @IsraelHatzolah · 2m

RIGHT NOW: Red Siren alarms sounding in Eshkol.
 

Lilbitsnana

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Jonathan Schanzer ‏@JSchanzer 20m

Israelis stranded in Turkey as Pegasus airlines crew refuses to fly to Tel Aviv because of rocket fire (Heb) http://bit.ly/VGuMjz

http://www.mako.co.il/news-israel/local/Article-59e24ba14a71741004.htm
translation (Bing)

Stranded in Turkey: "the team did not want to go to Israel"

Israelis furious passengers at the airport in Istanbul after the Turkish airline Pegasus rejected flight was supposed to leave tonight to Tel Aviv. "They said that the team is afraid to go to Israel because of the situation and our hotel arrangements", said one of the passengers. However, Turkish Airlines flights to Tel Aviv were as usual. "Don't know where to sleep at night."

Providing news, wrote 2 hetzroni Internet| | 7/8/14 posted 23: 33

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The hustle and bustle of Istanbul
צילום׃ David Dvir


At least 100 passengers who were supposed to take off this evening (Tuesday) from Istanbul to Tel Aviv stuck for hours in the terminal after claiming Turkish flight crew refused to land in Tel Aviv because of the security situation in the country.

The flight was supposed to take off 779 21: 00 clock Istanbul to Tel Aviv. After about an hour and a half of waiting before boarding, passengers can check in with the company why the procedure is delayed. "They told us that the Turkish team refused to travel to Israel because of this situation, while Turkish Airlines flights to Tel Aviv, Ben Gurion as usual" told News 2 Online with another colleague, stuck in port.


What's bothering him and the rest of the Israelis is the flight delayed for now to 06: 00 a.m. without a hotel, provide them with food or other explanations. "We're going to stay here and see why not give us food or hotel-before any Israeli representative with a Turkish company to coast has no embassy in Israel, we are talking with representatives for the Turks and don't know where to sleep tonight."
Representatives of Turks no answers.
"We were alone and helpless about the flight," said David Cohen, an Israeli passenger. "Since there is no Wi-Fi network at the port, mostly Israeli passengers are unable to contact family members and to inform them about the delays, or catch up on events in the country."
The Turks were left without answers to numerous questions from people who just want to get to Israel. The airports authority site in Israel stated that flight 779 was scheduled to arrive tonight in land only tomorrow morning as scheduled. Passengers contacted State Department situation room trying to help them.
Turkish Pegasus company began its activity in Israel in may 2012, and it operates direct flights to Istanbul, Turkey, from where many Israel fly to other destinations.
 

Stargazer4

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Wait and see

The Jordanians May March for terrorists today but just wait till ISIS arrives. They will soon change their tune


Take care
 

Lilbitsnana

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Israel News Feed @IsraelHatzolah · 25s

NOW: Additional air strikes in Rafah city in Gaza, according to Palestinian media 2 terrorists dead so far.



Israel News Feed @IsraelHatzolah · 13m

Ministry Of housing: So far 50 homes totally destroyed, 1,700 partially damaged in Israeli airstrikes on Gaza strip
 

mzkitty

I give up.
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I watched that video earlier and it seemed more like people watching a soccer game on a big screen, but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e86zg3SDDxE
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Yes, the World Cup.

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Germany thrashes Brazil 7-1 to reach World Cup final
- @AP
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At least 25 people killed after Israel launched offensive in Gaza Strip, Palestinian medics report; 6 killed in airstrike that flattened apartment building
- @AP

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/israel-launches-military-offensive-against-gaza


1h
Israel Defense Forces confirms a rocket fired from the Gaza Strip hit the city of Hadera, which is 100 km (62 miles) away from Gaza
- @IDFSpokesperson
see original on twitter.com
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Mary Hughes-Thompson ‏@Mariapalestina 2m

Congratulations #IDF You wiped out an entire family. Bully for you.
#GazaUnderAttack


Juha Wihersaari ‏@JittiShodan 1m

#IDF discounts report of #Gaza #anti-aircraft #missile
http://toi.sr/1k2s6Cw #SA-7 #Strela-2 #Стрела-2 #9K32 #Hamas #Israel


Cries fromthe depths ‏@Criesfromdepths 4m

#Hamas Madness! Terror attack on #Israel's #Gaza crossing supplying #Palestinians food, medicines.#IDF intercepted terrorists .
#Islamists


Brian ‏@IMENSCHE 10m

Five #Hamas Terrorists try to infiltrate #Israel and are "neutralized"
Kol Hakavod #IDF http://youtu.be/-ff1Vb1ZqSE
 

Lilbitsnana

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Israel News Feed @IsraelHatzolah · 3m

UPDATE: Rocket fired towards Beer Sheba successfully intercepted.


Israel News Feed @IsraelHatzolah · 5m

RIGHT NOW: Red Siren alarms sounding in Beer Sheva and surroundings.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
jihad war tracker ‏@jihadwartracker 1m

Good Riddens #Palestinian report: Islamic #Jihad Commander killed in #IDF attack Hafez Hamed... - #Israel http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4540083,00.html … @zionistwit


Joel Leyden ‏@joelleyden 4m

CNN: "Nothing changed in decades re violence re #Israel Palestinians" That's because JIHAD, murdering Jews, Christians, doesn't change. #idf
 

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Israel Breaking ✡ @IsraelBreaking · 34m
VIDEO: Iron Dome Intercepts 3 rockets over Beersheba moments ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAVb0SPMQMk



Israel Breaking ✡ @IsraelBreaking · 21m
All houses of Hamas’s divisional commanders in Southern Gaza Strip
have been destroyed. - Israel Radio #OperationProtectiveEdge



Israel Breaking ✡ @IsraelBreaking · 17s
Moments Ago:
Israeli Jets struck another Hamas Commanders home in Khan Younis, Gaza.



Avi Mayer @AviMayer · 6m
Dear God:
Approximately 160 rockets
have been fired from Gaza toward Israel over the past 24 hours alone.
(@IDFSpokesperson via Channel 2)


 

TerryK

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While Palestinian rockets are raining down on Israel hundreds of Jews from all over Israel went to the home of the slain Palestinian boy to offer the condolences and pay their respects to the family.

This is the difference between Israelis and Palestinians.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-g...f-israelis-console-family-of-slain-arab-teen/

Amid Gaza rocket fire, hundreds of Israelis console family of slain Arab teen

‘I may not have committed the crime, but I’m morally obligated as part of the group that did,’ says Israeli student

By Elhanan Miller July 9, 2014, 2:07 am 0



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Elhanan Miller Elhanan Miller is the Arab affairs reporter for The Times of Israel



SHUAFAT, Jerusalem — Men in skullcaps and observant women crowded outside the mourners’ tent of the Abu Khdeir family in northern Jerusalem Tuesday to pay their condolences for the murder of 16-year-old Muhammad, burned to death last week, allegedly by Jewish extremists.

“What do we say?” they asked one another, wondering whether there is an Arabic equivalent of the traditional Hebrew formula Hamakom Yenahem (May the Divine give comfort), recited following a visit to a Jewish house of mourning.

Under a blue awning, surrounded by huge posters of the smiling teenager and Palestinian flags, the men of the Abu Khdeir family stood in a row, quietly shaking hands and welcoming the large Israeli contingent, which had arrived in seven chartered buses from downtown Jerusalem and Tel Aviv as part of an initiative of Tag Meir, an Israeli grassroots NGO created two years ago to combat Jewish hate crime.
The unusual gathering was rendered all the more intense by Operation Protective Edge which was launched earlier that day by the IDF against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, and by Gaza rocket attacks which hit as far north as Jerusalem and beyond in the course of Tuesday.

Rabbi Yossi Slotnik came to Shuafat from Kibbutz Maaleh Gilboa in northern Israel, where he teaches Talmud at the local yeshiva. He said he was driven by a sense that “something tragically bad happened.”
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Rabbi Yossi Slotnik of Ma’ale l)

“This is what we as Jews call Hilul Hashem (the desecration of God’s name). I came to protest and declare that this is not the way my religion goes. I think we should say it out loud: This isn’t what we expect and what we want to happen. We’re looking for a different type of coexistence.”


Slotnik said he was a bit nervous coming to Jerusalem, and especially driving through the Jordan Valley which had witnessed numerous terror attacks in the past, but added that he “pushed that aside because it’s so important to come.”

During a conversation about the murder, the rabbi’s seven-year-old son asked him why anyone would chose to do bad. “I don’t know. There’s nothing in the way I was brought up or in the way I teach my students or children that is connected to this in any way or form. I don’t understand how such a good message like the Torah or Judaism can be so distorted. I can’t explain it; it’s very scary and worrying.”
The brutal murder of Abu Khdeir was allegedly carried out in revenge for the killing by a Hamas cell of three Israeli teenagers, who were laid to rest just hours before Abu Khdeir was seized and killed. Six Israelis are being held for the killing; several have confessed and reenacted it, the police said on Monday.


In the tent, an unidentified Palestinian man took the microphone and thanked the crowd for coming, saying that their presence was the answer to settlement expansion and Israeli aggression against the Palestinian people. Many in the audience moved uncomfortably in their plastic chairs.
“We haven’t allowed government representatives to come here because we felt their condolences were insincere. But we’ve welcomed you because you understand the extent of the crime.”

(The family reportedly refused to receive a condolence visit by President Shimon Peres. The family also rejected a condolence statement made by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, according to a relative quoted by the Maan news agency, who said that that “we refuse to accept the condolences of someone who agrees on the murder of our people in Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza.” The bereaved father, Hussein, asserted on Monday that there was no evidence that the murderers of Gil-ad Shaar, Naftali Fraenkel, and Eyal Yifrach, were not Jews.)


Outside the tent, Muhammad Al-Julani, 25, said the Jewish visit was useful in lowering the level of tension between Israelis and Palestinians.
“I congratulate them. I appreciate their good will and support for peace. They oppose settlement activity and what’s happening now across the West Bank,” he told The Times of Israel.
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Israeli visitors stand in line to console the Abu Khdeir family, Jerusalem, July 8, 2014 (photo credit: Elhanan Miller/Times of Israel)

Julani was laid off work as a gas station attendant in Modi’in last week, unable to reach his workplace due to the violence in Shuafat and the ensuing police curfew.
“The burning of a child is despicable. Long ago, Jews have experienced the suffering of incineration with the Nazis, which was despicable,” he said. “Now I feel like these things are happening again to the Palestinians. I reject that, I don’t want it to happen.”


Walking back to the bus, Rafi Meron, a retired economist from the Bank of Israel, said he came to express sympathy with the victim’s family, even though he believed the effect of such a visit was negligible.

“It’s better than sitting at home and remaining indifferent to what’s happening,” he said. “Who knows, maybe Tag Meir’s activities have a cumulative effect.”
Meron said the murder was a result of “consistent incitement, both from the political system and the educational and religious systems.”
“We all have soul searching to do,” he concluded.

Moshe Simchovitch, a 69-year-old Jerusalem pensioner, paid for an obituary for Abu Khdeir in Al-Quds, the city’s most widely-read Arabic daily, last Friday. His words of consolation had touched the family and were read aloud at the mourners’ tent, then translated into Hebrew.

“I’ve been publishing obituaries for years in Haaretz for various wrongs,” Simchovitch said, displaying a photocopy of an obituary he published in honor of doctor Izzeldin Abuelaish, who lost three daughters in an IDF strike on Gaza in January 2009.

“‘We must let go of the trigger and press down on the pedal of peace,’” he read from the paper. “Between me and you, it’s nonsense. Things are only getting worse. This will not be the last incident, we’re in for worse. Believe me … these 350 people here are nonsense. They don’t even make up half a yeshiva. Who does this help? Who cares? we’re barely a grain of sand. I’m here to represent myself, no political party.”

Simchovitch’s comments angered Motti, a 27-year-old ultra-Orthodox man from Jerusalem’s Geula neighborhood, who works as a literary editor for a book publisher.
“I feel like we’re always forced to explain and apologize for things we aren’t responsible for. This in itself is a terrible predicament. Over the past few years we have one public that stirs trouble and perpetrates atrocities and another public which has to explain the first … the people who did this are closer to Palestinian terrorists than to Jews.”

“In my mind, this murder is highly unusual. Children belong to the nation of children, and are outside the [political] story … We have deteriorated, and things are spinning out of control.”
 

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last couple hours

Israel News Feed @IsraelHatzolah · 2h

BREAKING NEWS: The European hospital in Gaza has been hit by Israel fighter jets, casualties reported.



Israel News Feed @IsraelHatzolah · 2h

Due to rocket attacks, U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv to operate in minimal staffing. Haaretz



Israel News Feed @IsraelHatzolah · 1h

RIGHT NOW: Multiple Huge explosions blasted in Gaza moments ago, Israeli air force continuing striking terror sites.


Israel News Feed @IsraelHatzolah · 1h

GAZA: Medics reporting 17 injuries nearby European hospital in khan youins, as Israeli air strikes continue.




Israel News Feed @IsraelHatzolah · 1h

GAZA: Medics reporting at least 8 injured in current Israeli air strike in Al Zaytun area.
 

Sleeping Cobra

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ISIS Already in Gaza Strip

Then let their be a true war. Not run out of ammo then call a cease fire, reload then have war again.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Ken in Arizona ‏@dayo1946 3m

Dear Israel : Stop being a pussy and bomb the f*ck out of Gaza! Plain enough for U?


matt ‏@110mats 37s

#MuslimBrotherhood Org Metw#Obama WH Calls for Islamic War Against Israel: http://m.hilliker.org/1qQ3Yus #tcot #PJNET #Benghazi #gaza #idf #hamas

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/...te-House-Calls-For-Islamic-War-Against-Israel


Nasty threat:

طامح #مقدسي ‏@m_x100 8m

http://ln.is/www.youtube.com/VEtRs Message from the #Qassam to the #IDF #israel #JerusalemUnderAttack #TelavivUnderAttack #Gaza #Hamas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3eBs4isqI#t=24

 

mzkitty

I give up.
Bradley Scott ‏@BradleyScott1 1m

Hearing my friends in #Israel have to remain in safe rooms because of #hamas in #gaza. May the #IDF literally reduce #Gaza to ashes.



Graham1 ‏@Graham_In_Aus 7m

@jeanlaurienti1 @Pudingtane The response will be more than adequate, you don't mess with the #IDF .
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Bradley Scott ‏@BradleyScott1 5m

No other army besides #idf drops leaflets warning #gaza citizens of impending air strike. More mercy than I'd show #hamas. Kill the cancer!



IDFVerified account ‏@IDFSpokesperson

SHARE: More than 4 times as many #Gaza rockets have been fired at #Israel so far in 2014 than the entire year of 2013
pic.twitter.com/sal3sy9lrs
 

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mzkitty

I give up.
israelforever ‏@israelforever 3m

Another day of bombing the everlovin' shit out of #Gaza, with tens of thousands of #IDF soldiers ready. Good morning! #f*ckpalestine



Adam Milstein ‏@AdamMilstein 4m

#IDF pounds Gaza targets after rocket barrage hits across Israel
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel...r-rocket-barrage-hits-as-far-north-as-hadera/ … 24 Gazans killed 100 injured pic.twitter.com/4U2icRwMoO
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Ragnarok

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Israelis stranded in Turkey as Pegasus airlines crew refuses to fly to Tel Aviv because of rocket fire (Heb) http://bit.ly/VGuMjz

http://www.mako.co.il/news-israel/local/Article-59e24ba14a71741004.htm
translation (Bing)

Stranded in Turkey: "the team did not want to go to Israel"

Israelis furious passengers at the airport in Istanbul after the Turkish airline Pegasus rejected flight was supposed to leave tonight to Tel Aviv. "They said that the team is afraid to go to Israel because of the situation and our hotel arrangements", said one of the passengers. However, Turkish Airlines flights to Tel Aviv were as usual. "Don't know where to sleep at night."

Providing news, wrote 2 hetzroni Internet| | 7/8/14 posted 23: 33

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The hustle and bustle of Istanbul
צילום׃ David Dvir


At least 100 passengers who were supposed to take off this evening (Tuesday) from Istanbul to Tel Aviv stuck for hours in the terminal after claiming Turkish flight crew refused to land in Tel Aviv because of the security situation in the country.

The flight was supposed to take off 779 21: 00 clock Istanbul to Tel Aviv. After about an hour and a half of waiting before boarding, passengers can check in with the company why the procedure is delayed. "They told us that the Turkish team refused to travel to Israel because of this situation, while Turkish Airlines flights to Tel Aviv, Ben Gurion as usual" told News 2 Online with another colleague, stuck in port.


What's bothering him and the rest of the Israelis is the flight delayed for now to 06: 00 a.m. without a hotel, provide them with food or other explanations. "We're going to stay here and see why not give us food or hotel-before any Israeli representative with a Turkish company to coast has no embassy in Israel, we are talking with representatives for the Turks and don't know where to sleep tonight."
Representatives of Turks no answers.
"We were alone and helpless about the flight," said David Cohen, an Israeli passenger. "Since there is no Wi-Fi network at the port, mostly Israeli passengers are unable to contact family members and to inform them about the delays, or catch up on events in the country."
The Turks were left without answers to numerous questions from people who just want to get to Israel. The airports authority site in Israel stated that flight 779 was scheduled to arrive tonight in land only tomorrow morning as scheduled. Passengers contacted State Department situation room trying to help them.
Turkish Pegasus company began its activity in Israel in may 2012, and it operates direct flights to Istanbul, Turkey, from where many Israel fly to other destinations.

I'm betting that there were many reservists on that flight and that is why Turkey is delaying flights as long as possible.

Is it time for Obadiah?

" How are the things of Esau searched out! how are his hidden things sought up!

7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him.

8 Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?

9 And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.

10 For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.

11 In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.

12 But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.

13 Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity;

14 Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that did escape; neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress.

15 For the day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head
.

16 For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been.

17 But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.

18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the Lord hath spoken it.

19 And they of the south shall possess the mount of Esau; and they of the plain the Philistines: and they shall possess the fields of Ephraim, and the fields of Samaria: and Benjamin shall possess Gilead.

20 And the captivity of this host of the children of Israel shall possess that of the Canaanites, even unto Zarephath; and the captivity of Jerusalem, which is in Sepharad, shall possess the cities of the south.

21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord's.
"
 

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http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/israel/articles/20140708.aspx

Israel: Hamas Needs A War

July 8, 2014: Israel launched air attacks on more than fifty targets in Gaza. In the last 24 hours nearly a hundred rockets were fired from Gaza and the Israeli air operations are mostly against rocket storage and firing operations. This is difficult because most of the rockets are deliberately stored in residential areas. This complicates Israeli air attacks, even though only smart bombs and guided missiles are used for these targets. Gaza medical personnel reported that nine people were wounded in todays’ air strikes. In late 2012 Israel was in a similar situation that led to an eight day offensive into Gaza. This ended with a Hamas promise to halt the rocket fire. Hamas was not able or willing to stop the attacks completely so here we are again.

Israel has other serious problems besides Hamas. For example, Israel is a democracy and governments can only be formed if a majority coalition (in parliament) can be formed. It has proved impossible to form a coalition without including some parties that back Jewish settlements in the West Bank. Arabs are violently opposed to those settlements and that anger is encouraged by decades of Arab and Palestinian media propaganda calling for the destruction of Israel at all costs. The official line in most Arab countries is that there can be no real compromise on this “destruction of Israel” issue. Any peace deals with Israel are seen as temporary truces, not a permanent end to anti-Israel violence. Calls for radical solutions (as in the destruction of Israel) were long believed to be mainly an Arab disease but in the last two decades Israeli radicals (still a minority, but a loud one) have called for more rapid and violent responses to Arab terrorism and physical attacks. This has led to Israeli “settlers” attacking Palestinians regularly. In 2012 the Israeli government announced that Jewish residents of the West Bank making "price tag" (retaliatory) attacks would be treated like terrorists. This gave the police more power to investigate and prosecute these crimes, which diminished for a while then began increasing again. That may have slowed the attacks but it did not stop them. These price tag attacks were also carried out to protest Israeli government efforts to dismantle illegal settler structures in the West Bank in addition to the more publicized revenge attacks against Palestinians who went after settlements or settlers. Price tag attacks represented a shift in settler attitudes since the 2006 war with Hezbollah and increasing violence from Hamas.

For decades the settlers could be depended on to be passive after a Palestinian attack, letting the Israeli police and military look for the culprit. But now the settlers are increasingly launching "price tag" counterattacks. The price tag refers to what the Palestinians must suffer for every attack on Israelis, or for Israeli police interfering with settler activities. This is vigilante justice, and it does more damage to Palestinians than Israeli police efforts to catch and prosecute Palestinian attackers. The Palestinians are not accustomed to this kind of swift payback and they do not like it. Israel has been under growing public and international pressure to crack down more vigorously on the vigilantes. This became especially urgent because the attacks are much more common, and are even extending to feuds between factions of Jewish religious extremists. The Palestinians are still committing most of the terror attacks, but the Jewish terrorists are catching up and extremists on both sides back increased violence in the hope of driving the other side out. Some extremist settler groups have long called for the expulsion of all Arabs from the West Bank and that idea is becoming more popular among settlers and Israelis in general. It’s still a minority attitude, but as more Israelis become frustrated with the relentless Arab calls for destroying Israel, extreme countermeasures appeal to more people.

Meanwhile the new alliance between Hamas and Fatah is collapsing because of disagreements over money (especially to pay civil servants in Gaza that Hamas is too broke to pay). Many Hamas leaders see a brief war with Israel as a way to solve their cashflow problem as the damage from such conflicts tends to be minimal but does bring in a lot more foreign aid and opportunities to exaggerate the damage (and generally gain some sympathy from donor countries). This further boosts aid, especially cash for payrolls and secret bank accounts of Palestinian leaders. Hamas sees a political advantage as well as the Fatah assistance in the search for the three Israeli teenagers is being portrayed by Hamas as collaboration with Israel. Moreover both Israel and Fatah always believed Hamas members in the West Bank were behind the kidnapping and the search for the three teenagers was mostly at the expense of the Hamas organizations in the West Bank. This included several Hamas terror cells and some of these raids captured weapons and bomb making materials. Hamas increasingly sees Fatah as an Israeli ally as well as a Hamas rival. Hamas knows that Fatah has much less enthusiasm for war with Israel. The West Bank is full of Israeli soldiers and police and going to war would lead to many Fatah leaders quickly being arrested (or killed). In Gaza it’s always possible to flee into Egypt. Thus Hamas needs a war with Israel, even if most Palestinians do not.

For months now Hamas has been under intense pressure to halt rocket attacks from Gaza and settle their differences with rival Palestinian faction Fatah. The rocket attacks are the more immediate problem because Hamas signed a truce with Israel over this matter and failed to deliver. Now faces an Israeli effort to use massive air, and possibly ground, attacks aimed at destroying most of the Hamas rocket stockpile. The situation got worse in 2014 and now many Israelis are calling for reoccupation of Gaza because pulling troops out in 2005 has not worked out well at all. Hamas remains dedicated to destroying Israel and that rocket stockpile (built by smuggling Iranian rockets in for years) is the only thing that gives Hamas any credibility as a threat to Israel. Hamas needs all the respect it can get in the Arab world because it is losing popular support in Gaza where its 1.6 million Palestinian subjects are angry at not being able to vote Hamas out of power and being forced to submit to more and more Islamic lifestyle rules. Fatah still rules in the West Bank and despite still being corrupt, inept and unpopular has managed to reach an agreement with Hamas on a unified Palestinian government. This is essential to keep financial aid from Arab nations coming. Neither Palestinian faction is interested in real peace talks with Israel. That's because Palestinian leaders continue to preach endless war against Israel, and destruction of the Jewish state. Any peace deal is seen as a stepping stone towards that ultimate goal. Some Palestinians keep trying to make any kind of peace, in order to reverse the economic disaster they brought on themselves as a result of their 15 year old terror campaign against Israel. Polls show that Palestinians are tired of terrorism, even though they still support it in order to destroy Israel, which remains an article of faith among Palestinians. The Palestinian economy in Gaza has collapsed as a major component, foreign charity, was reduced because the people elected the Hamas (Islamic terrorists) party to power in 2007. Hamas is trying to convince foreigners that it has changed (it hasn't) in order to get more cash to keep their religious dictatorship going.

In Egypt, the disgruntled population triggered another uprising in mid-2013 and the army removed the recently elected Islamic conservatives because most Egyptians saw the new bosses as too similar to the old ones. In 2014 Egypt elected another military man, who replaces one who was overthrown in 2011. The government has arrested over 10,000 people since the coup a year ago but now the military is in charge legally. The newly elected president (Abdul al Sisi) is a former general and is determined to crush the Moslem Brotherhood and other more radical Islamic terrorist groups. Hundreds of Islamic radicals have been sentenced to death or long prison terms in the last year. This is all a repeat of what happened twenty years ago during the last Islamic radical uprising against a corrupt and inefficient government. The army promises it will be different this time, but they always do that and it never is. President Sisi has made it clear that he sees Islamic terrorism as the greatest danger the region faces. At the same time Sisi is making moves to get the economy going although it’s doubtful he will do anything about the corruption. ......
 

Red Baron

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Dawn breaks with no let up in the rocket attacks,

Latest updates:

8:30 A.M. Rocket sirens ring across central Israel; explosions heard. (Haaretz)

7:00 A.M. Some of the rockets fired toward central Israel on Tuesday were manufactured by Hamas, a senior IDF officer says. In anticipation of further attacks, the Israel Air Force has rearranged the deployment of Iron Dome missile defense batteries.

The IAF will continue striking the homes of key Hamas militants on Wednesday. According to the officer, residents of the buildings that were previously targeted have tried to avert the attacks by going up to the roofs en masse. Such ploys will not be effective, the officer says, adding that the IAF has been warning residents in several ways to evacuate the buildings ahead of time.

"If the pilot has signaled (an impending strike), go outside, this house will be destroyed," the officer says." (Gili Cohen)

6:50 A.M. Gaza rocket explodes in an open area in Sdot Negev Regional Council. (Shirly Seidler)

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.603913
 

SIRR1

Deceased
Thanks everyone for their extended coverage of tweets and news feeds in Israel, lilbitsnana, mzkitty, HC, PI thanks your the best!

Thinking out loud here for a few minutes but you know who has to be loving this is President Assad of Syria.

For the first time in over 3 years he is not in the cross hairs and this should give him the opportunity to lick his wounds and regroup his forces.

I would think Assad does not have the ability to help Hamas and Hezbollah with the Israeli's in this conflict like he has in the past threatening to attack if Israel goes to far, and I think the same goes with Egypt, just way too much going on at home to venture into Israel.

Now what in the Hell is ISIS up to?

This group has to be spread pretty thin, with fronts in Syria and Iraq, probing Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait threatening Jordan and now sticking their nose into Gaza and what it looks like to me that ISIS is pushing Hamas, Hezbollah and AQ to the side and taking the fight to Israel which IMHO is a mistake at this time...

One thing that is getting over looked here is that Syria fought ISIS tooth and nail so they are not undefeatable by any means and a well organized and disciplined military should be able to take out the main fighting force but once broken up ISIS will turn into cells causing trouble for everyone in the ME who battled against them.

The million dollar question here is what will Israel do about the rocket attacks that it has not done in the past that will not unite the Muslims world against Israel if they go too far?

As far as I am concerned Israel can level Gaza and the West Bank as well, IIRC there was a News blurb about ISIS is trying to gain a foot hold in Lebanon so that's a problem as well.

The only country in the ME that has not been singled out for reeducation is Iran and I wonder what's up with that?

The next few days should be very interesting and I am holding my breath waiting for a hit on an airliner or a hit here in CONUS by ISIS like they have threatened to do, and what worries me the most is so far ISIS leadership says they are going to do something and a month later they make good on their threat, when does Raman don end?

Sorry for rambling on here...

Oh I forgot something that was posted earlier today but what is a "Roof Knocker" by the IDF?

Thanks again!

SIRR1
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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ty, I tried to follow twitter for a minute, and all I kept seeing was pictures of dead children. Needed a different source.

BBC and others reporting a rash of fake pictures being generated by Hamas et al.

Previously the Arabs have raided morgues and staged photos with the bodies.
 

njs7877

Senior Member
I believe it. Horrible pictures to see when I wasn't expecting it (even if I was, they were bad). I don't put anything past those low life's anymore
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Israel's Iron Dome intercepts rockets fired at Tel Aviv area, Ben Gurion International Airport - @ynetnews

Photo: Rocket debris lands in Tel Aviv, Israel, following series of interceptions - @Channel2News

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Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Thanks everyone for their extended coverage of tweets and news feeds in Israel, lilbitsnana, mzkitty, HC, PI thanks your the best!

Thinking out loud here for a few minutes but you know who has to be loving this is President Assad of Syria.

For the first time in over 3 years he is not in the cross hairs and this should give him the opportunity to lick his wounds and regroup his forces.

I would think Assad does not have the ability to help Hamas and Hezbollah with the Israeli's in this conflict like he has in the past threatening to attack if Israel goes to far, and I think the same goes with Egypt, just way too much going on at home to venture into Israel.

Now what in the Hell is ISIS up to?

This group has to be spread pretty thin, with fronts in Syria and Iraq, probing Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait threatening Jordan and now sticking their nose into Gaza and what it looks like to me that ISIS is pushing Hamas, Hezbollah and AQ to the side and taking the fight to Israel which IMHO is a mistake at this time...

One thing that is getting over looked here is that Syria fought ISIS tooth and nail so they are not undefeatable by any means and a well organized and disciplined military should be able to take out the main fighting force but once broken up ISIS will turn into cells causing trouble for everyone in the ME who battled against them.

The million dollar question here is what will Israel do about the rocket attacks that it has not done in the past that will not unite the Muslims world against Israel if they go too far?

As far as I am concerned Israel can level Gaza and the West Bank as well, IIRC there was a News blurb about ISIS is trying to gain a foot hold in Lebanon so that's a problem as well.

The only country in the ME that has not been singled out for reeducation is Iran and I wonder what's up with that?

The next few days should be very interesting and I am holding my breath waiting for a hit on an airliner or a hit here in CONUS by ISIS like they have threatened to do, and what worries me the most is so far ISIS leadership says they are going to do something and a month later they make good on their threat, when does Raman don end?

Sorry for rambling on here...

Oh I forgot something that was posted earlier today but what is a "Roof Knocker" by the IDF?

Thanks again!

SIRR1

A "roof knocker" is an non-explosive missile used to get the inhabitants of a building targeted for a strike to leave it so as to minimize civilian casualties.
 
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