CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

marsh

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Coronavirus Pandemic Update 110: Trump's Risk Factors and COVID-19 Prognosis; Interferon
•Oct 2, 2020

MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY

President Trump was flown to the hospital on Friday afternoon (October 2, 2020) after testing positive for COVID-19 on October 1. Roger Seheult, MD discusses the experimental drug Regeneron that Trump was given and the risk of severe symptoms or death given the President’s age and co-morbidities. Dr. Seheult also discusses a new article in the journal Nature about the key role of interferon in fighting SARS-CoV-2 and symptoms of COVID-19 (This video was recorded on October 2, 2020).

LINKS / REFERENCES: Johns Hopkins Tracker | https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html President’s Physical Exam | https://assets.documentcloud.org/docu... USA Today | https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p... Hidden Immune Weakness | https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/... Pre-Print on Risk Stratification Based on Age | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.11... Inborn Errors | https://science.sciencemag.org/conten... Auto-antibodies | https://science.sciencemag.org/conten... ResearchGate | https://www.researchgate.net/publicat... Newsweek | https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump... The Guardian | https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2... Medium | https://medium.com/swlh/interferon-re... WKBN | https://www.wkbn.com/news/coronavirus... MedCram Coronavirus Update 46 | https://youtu.be/EFRwnhfWXxo MedCram Coronavirus Update 47 | https://youtu.be/H1LHgyfPPQ8 MedCram Coronavirus Update 59 | https://youtu.be/NM2A2xNLWR4
 

marsh

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18:54 min
President Trump Hospitalized for COVID-19 (Lung Doctor Gives Medical Analysis)
•Oct 2, 2020


Doctor Mike Hansen


President Trump Hospitalized for COVID-19 (Lung Doctor Gives Medical Analysis)

Hi guys, for those of you who don’t me, I’m Mike Hansen, board-certified in internal medicine, pulmonary disease, and critical care medicine. As a critical care doctor, and lung doctor, I want to give my take President Donald Trump’s COVID-19 diagnosis and prognosis, and how I think his doctors at Walter Reed Medical Center will medically manage him.

He was said to have fatigue, fever, hoarse voice, and cough, and no shortness of breath. While at the white house, he gets zinc, vitamin D, melatonin, famotidine, and this new polyclonal antibody treatment, which is a totally new therapy that we don’t even know if it works or night, as there are no RCT published about this. It’s an experimental therapy.

We see him walking to the helicopter. Which is significant. He wasn’t in resp distress, he wasn’t requiring extra oxygen. So based on the fact that he is walking without becoming short of breath or hypoxic, this is mild COVID-19. The concern is that this process, and with COVID-19, can progress slowly and gradually, or it can progress slowly and gradually and all of a sudden there can be clinical deterioration. So why hospitalization? According to the press secretary, he will be hospitalized for several days. That is of course assuming his disease does not progress. The decision to hospitalize someone with COVID is really based on breathing. Are they short of breath? Do they have hypoxia, meaning lower oxygen levels? He does have risk factors, age 74, male, obese, hypertension, cardiovascular disease. Overall, the numbers say he is likely to come out of this ok, but who knows. There is no way to predict what happens. It’s a mysterious illness. So when he is admitted to the hospital, here are things that I want to know, and things that I would do.

What about treatment? Most patients with mild disease are not hospitalized. But the president is not most patients, and that is why he is hospitalized despite only having a mild illness, based on the information that I can glean so far. Dexamethasone is a glucocorticoid, a type of steroid has been shown to have improved mortality in hospitalized patients with moderate or severe disease. Remdesivir might be somewhat helpful in hospitalized patients. But both of these might improve clinical outcomes but are far from any cure. What about convalescent plasma? Well, he already received antibodies so giving him additional antibodies is unlikely to have any benefit. Even if he did not receive those antibodies, CP hasn’t been proven to be beneficial in any RCT. I made an entire video about CP if you want to learn more about that. Anticoagulation, meaning a blood thinner, is always given to hospitalized patients, even before COVID, unless there is a contraindication like they have bleeding. But COVID does raise the risk of people developing blood clots, especially those who have cardiovascular risk factors, like obesity, HTN, and high cholesterol. This is because of COVID-19 latches on to the ACE2 receptors not just in the alveoli of the lungs, but also the ACE2 receptors that line our capillaries, the tiniest blood vessels in our body. So the potential for blood clots is a big concern.

The other big concern is how extensive is his COVID-19 pneumonia? Meaning how much inflammation is there in the lungs? My guess is he is getting a CT scan of the lungs, and probably a CTa of the lungs to look for blood clots. Another potential treatment, which is reserved for critically ill patients, which Trump is not, is Tocilizumab, which is an IL-6 monoclonal antibody. IL-6 is a central player in the cytokine storm that develops in COVID -19 patients with severe disease. When patients have very elevated inflammatory markers (D-dimer, ferritin) and elevated pro-inflammatory cytokines (including IL-6) are associated with critical and fatal COVID-19, and blocking the inflammatory pathway has been hypothesized to prevent disease progression. Several drugs that target the IL-6 pathway have been evaluated in randomized trials for the treatment of COVID-19; these include the IL-6 receptor blockers tocilizumab and sarilumab and the direct IL-6 inhibitor siltuximab. In one study of over 500 patients with severe COVID-19, treatment with tocilizumab was associated with a decreased risk of invasive mechanical ventilation or death.
 

marsh

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12:53 min
5 BIGGEST Takeaways from President Trump's COVID 19 Diagnosis – (UPDATE)

•Oct 3, 2020


Doctor Mike Hansen


5 BIGGEST Takeaways from President Trump's COVID 19 Diagnosis – (UPDATE)

In this video, I give my medical insight from the medical update about President Trump's COVID-19 diagnosis and hospitalization. President Trump's doctor, Dr. Sean Conley, gave a press conference regarding Trump's COVID-19 illness.

Trump's height is 6’ 3” weight is 243. When you use the BMI calculator, that BMI comes out to 30.4, which is classified as obese. This is important because we know that obese patients have a worse prognosis with COVID-19. It's also important, because its more evidence that he is making things look rosier than they really are, and when that happens, he loses credibility.

Another thing that Dr. Conley said is that day 7-10 of illness is when the inflammation phase occurs, and therefore they will monitor him closely at that time. Whether that is in the hospital or not is still TBD, it all depends on how he is doing. There are lots of COVID cases, and this is something I see in my experience as a pulmonary and critical care doctor, is that lots of times COVID-19 starts out slow, and seemingly innocuous, and things can quickly go South. At this day 7-10 mark, if the cytokine storm is going to develop, meaning lots of inflammation in the lungs and systemic inflammation, it's typically around this time.

At this point, there is no doctor in the world who knows how this is going to play out. Trump can get better, he could get worse, it could happen slowly, it can happen quickly. I’ve had patients who are months out recovering from COVID-19. I had a patient who had symptoms with COVID-19, they got better, and were discharged from the hospital, they later came back to the hospital and ended up dying. There is no way of predicting this illness.

The other thing is that President Trump received this experimental therapy called REGN-COV2, which is made by a biotech company called Regeneron. It’s essentially 2 different monoclonal antibodies that are combined into a cocktail. Regeneron scientists selected two antibodies that best neutralized a version of the novel coronavirus in the lab. They then cloned these antibodies and put it into a cocktail therapy. Regeneron announced results from the first 275 non-hospitalized patients in a late-stage trial that showed that the treatment was safe and seemed to reduce viral levels and improve symptoms in patients with Covid-19.

The greatest improvements were seen in those who hadn’t already mounted a detectable immune response to the novel coronavirus. The patients in the trial were on average age 44 years old, and almost half the patients in the trial were obese, and about 2/3rds of them had one or more underlying risk factors for severe Covid-19. So there will be more data to come from this trial and from a trial involving hospitalized patients and one that is testing the antibody cocktail as prevention for people who have contact with someone in their household who has Covid-19. Conley also declined to say when Trump had his last negative Covid-19 test, which has important implications for contact tracing. Incubation time up to 14 days, average 4-7 days. But a more precise answer would come by knowing his last known negative test, and then when he tested positive. And this is absolutely something that needs to be disclosed. You have to remember that when someone contracts the virus, the virus starts to replicate, and then at some point, not right away, but at some point, that person will test positive. Does that happen on day 1? Day 2? It's not known exactly how many hours or days someone will test positive after they contract the virus. It's likely a day or two, and it likely depends on different factors, so it's variable. But this is why people who have been exposed to someone with COVID-19, this is why they have to be quarantined for 14 days. So everyone who was exposed to Trump since he first contracted the virus, needs to be in quarantine. And isolation is almost the same as quarantine, except that isolation is when someone is known to have COVID-19. A question that often comes up is what defines exposure. And that is somewhat of a grey area. It's loosely defined as being within 6 feet of someone with COVID-19 who is not wearing a mask for more than 15 minutes.

Dr. Mike Hansen, MD Internal Medicine | Pulmonary Disease | Critical Care Medicine Coronavirus | COVID 19 YouTube Video Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
RTE - Irish National Broadcaster just sends a "breaking news" across my screen that the national health advisory committee NEPHET has just recommended that all of Ireland go back into full lockdown.

More details as I get them, the government doesn't have to do what they say but usually does.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
And here we go, just two hours ago it was thought they might recommend Dublin go to "level 4" and the rest the country go to "level 3" without the boring details most of us are at "level 2" which means some visits, weddings, shopping, and many other activities can go on with a mask. People like me stay "cocooning" but even I don't have to, the elderly and those with underlying conditions are just encouraged to.

Under level 5, it is total and complete lockdown other than essential services, some medical appointments - aka we are back in March!

Breaking NPHET recommends Level 5 restrictions for entire country
Updated / Sunday, 4 Oct 2020 20:32

Dr Tony Holohan (File pic)

Dr Tony Holohan (File pic)
By Mícheál Lehane
Political Correspondent

NPHET has recommended the highest level of restrictions for the entire country, Level 5, in a letter sent to Government tonight.

It is expected that the three party leaders in Government will seek a meeting with the CMO tomorrow to discuss the letter.

A lengthy NPHET meeting held to discuss the deteriorating Covid-19 situation took place this evening.

It was chaired by Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan.

After NPHET, the matter would then have to be considered by the Covid-19 oversight group, the Cabinet Sub-Committee and the full Cabinet which is currently scheduled to meet on Tuesday.

Government sources were this evening describing the current Covid-19 numbers as very worrying.

The Department of Health has today been notified of 364 more cases of Covid-19 and no new deaths.

There has now been a total of 38,032 confirmed cases in Ireland, and 1,810 deaths.



Of the cases notified today, 195 are men and 168 are women.

74% of today's cases are in people under 45 years of age.

27% are confirmed to be associated with outbreaks or are close contacts of a confirmed case.

42 of the new cases have been identified as community transmission.

100 of the cases are in Dublin, while 55 are in Cork and 31 in Donegal.

24 cases were reported in Limerick, 23 in Galway, 17 in Clare, 14 in Sligo, 13 in Roscommon, 10 in Kerry, 8 in Tipperary, 8 in Wicklow, 7 in Kildare, 6 in Kilkenny, 6 in Offaly, 5 in Cavan, 5 in Mayo, 5 in Meath, with the remaining 27 cases in nine counties.

The number of people with Covid-19 in hospital has increased. As of 8am this morning, there were 134 people being treated. This is up from 114 the previous day.

The number of people in intensive care with the virus has risen to 22.

Acting Chief Medical Officer Dr Ronan Glynn yesterday strongly advised older and vulnerable people to limit the number of people they meet to a "very small core group".

The warning came after 613 new cases of Covid-19 were reported yesterday.

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They were the highest daily figures in more than five months. Ten further deaths were also notified last night, but eight of these occurred before September.

Dr Glynn said the numbers yesterday and over the past week represent "a significant escalation" in the profile of coronavirus in Ireland.

"For those aged 70 plus, and those who are medically vulnerable to Covid-19, it is strongly recommended that you should limit the number of people you meet to a very small core group of family members, carers or friends, for short periods of time, while remaining physically distant," he advised.

He said that new cases of the virus were recorded in all 26 counties and people in every county should follow the advice to stop the further spread of the virus.

Today is Dr Glynn's last day as Acting Chief Medical Officer with the Department of Health confirming that Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan will return to work tomorrow.

He took temporary leave in July for personal family circumstances.

Health Minister Stephen Donnelly expressed his "sincere thanks" to Dr Glynn for all his work as Acting CMO.

"He stepped into one of the toughest roles in Ireland and did a fantastic job. Looking forward to ongoing work with Dr Glynn and again now with Dr Tony Holohan on his return.

"It will be of huge benefit to us all to have the expertise of Dr Holohan and Dr Glynn as we face into the challenging winter months."

Additional reporting: Laura Hogan


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Melodi

Disaster Cat
Oh good, grief - either things are bad enough as the health authorities and NEPHET say they are, in which case it needs to be level 5 but WITHOUT opening schools (as Nightwolf said they don't have a "Magical spell of protection") or things are not really that bad, they might as well disband (and stop supporting) the public health advisory board and do whatever the heck the government wants to do.

This extremely political "refusal to accept advice" and going to a "moderate level" that will still shut a lot of businesses and won't help if there really is a serious outbreak, is just plain stupid. The same health committee told the government to go to level 3 restrictions a month ago or face the consequences of delay, and now they are pulling the same stunt again.

This isn't airborne ebola or Black Pox, it may or may not be necessarily medically to actually shut everything down, but just "deciding" it won't happen won't make it go away if things are grim enough to need a lockdown.

Typical Irish politics...I wonder who send in the brown envelopes? ...

Govt set to veto NPHET advice, adopt Level 3 nationwide
Updated / Monday, 5 Oct 2020 17:33

Dr Tony Holohan pictured as he left Government Buildings this afternoon

Dr Tony Holohan pictured as he left Government Buildings this afternoon
By Paul Cunningham
Political Correspondent

The Cabinet is to set to reject the National Public Health Emergency Team's recommendation to place the entire country under Level 5 restrictions.

Instead, it is believed every county will be moved to Level 3 Covid-19 restrictions with improved enforcement.

If approved by Cabinet, this will mark the first time the Government has rejected significant public health advice from NPHET and chartered its own course.

A senior Government source said we are "in a very dangerous place" as decision is being represented as "politicians versus doctors" when it "never ever should have been allowed to get to this point of showdown".

The source added that there are "serious questions and [a] major fallout".

RTÉ also understands that while ministers took NPHET's concern about the exponential growth of the virus "very seriously", there was "resistance" to moving to Level 5 "at this time."

The Cabinet is due to meet now at Government Buildings in Dublin, with some Ministers joining by remote. It's expected Cabinet will confirm the Covid-19 sub-committee recommendation that the entire country be placed on Level 3, rather than Level 5 recommended by NPHET.

Earlier today, the three coalition party leaders met the Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan for two hours and 15 minutes.


NPHET has recommended placing the entire country on Level 5 restrictions - the highest level in the 'Living with Covid-19 Plan'.

Level 5 would see all but essential retail outlets closed, social gatherings would be restricted and people would only be allowed to exercise within 5km of their homes.

The recommendation to move to Level 5 follows what health officials called a significant escalation in the profile of the virus in Ireland over the last week.

Questions continue to swirl around political circles about the dramatic change in NPHET's advice.

It is understood the coalition leaders were looking for a clear understanding of the rationale and the data, which led to the Level 5 recommendation yesterday, when last Thursday it was deemed there was not a need to move the country to Level 3 restrictions.



Senior Fine Gael backbencher Fergus O'Dowd said that while any NPHET recommendation would be closely examined, moving to Level 5 would have permanent and far-reaching consequences for people's lives.

Sinn Féin has sought a meeting with Taoiseach Micheál Martin, Minister for Health Stephen Donnolly and Dr Holohan and said it would be "catastrophic" to introduce further restrictions without supports for workers and families.


Social Democrat co-leader Róisín Shortall said the Government's priorities should be an all-Ireland response and tackling the issue of international travel.

Labour Party leader Alan Kelly has said that an explanation based on rational data is needed to illustrate what is "the dramatic change" that has happened over the last three days to support NPHET's proposal to move to a Level 5 alert.

Mr Kelly said that the "bombshell" announcement had left young and old frightened and in shock last night as he strongly criticised the way the message had been communicated.

He told RTÉ's News at One that he will support a Government decision on harsher restrictions once he sees data and gets a rationale for it.

However, he stressed it is a seismic decision for Government that needs to take on board all socio-economic factors and non-Covid healthcare.

Mr Kelly said that NPHET had endorsed the 'Living with Covid' staged plan and last Thursday had recommended just some changes regarding numbers allowed at household gatherings.

Meanwhile, NPHET has said that the powers available under public health laws need to be fully and visibly utilised.

While the letter to Government does not specifically reference the Garda, it calls for a renewed commitment to enforcement of regulations.

In the letter recommending a move to Level 5 restrictions, NPHET also expresses concern over the number of open outbreaks in nursing homes and an increase in cases among those aged over 65.
 
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marsh

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Coronavirus Vaccine Update From the FDA - Monday October 5, 2:15P Central

•Started streaming 31 minutes ago


JAMA Network

Peter Marks, MD, PhD directs the US FDA's Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER) and will "call the balls and strikes" on any COVID-19 vaccine, according to FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn. He joins JAMA editor Howard Bauchner for an update on vaccine progress-to-date and prospects for pre-election political interference in the FDA approval process.
 

marsh

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blackjeep

The end times are here.
Here's a video where OAN interviews a California doctor about treating Covid patients with HCQ.

Run time 5:22


Why even consider a vaccine when HCQ will do a very good job of treating Covid. We're supposed to immediately accept a vaccine with unknown effectiveness that is rushed into production. Compare that to HCQ, with a 70 year safety record.
More people die of taking Tylenol every year than HCQ, and Tylenol is available everywhere. Does that make sense?
 

marsh

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9:15 min
Long Term Effects of COVID-19 (“Long-Haulers”)
•Oct 8, 2020


Doctor Mike Hansen


Some people with COVID-19 end up suffering long term effects of the illness. This includes long-term effects of not just the lungs, but other organs as well. These patients are the so-called “long-haulers.” And it is not necessarily just people with severe COVID-19 who can experience this.

Dexamethasone, a steroid medication, specifically a glucocorticoid, can cause anxiety, irritation, psychosis, delirium, sleep disturbance. This is why when we do give steroids, we try to avoid giving them before sleep. When assessing someone’s mental status, or psychiatric state, its important to know what they are normally like at their baseline. Are they acting differently? That’s really what you’re looking for. Steroids are prescribed very frequently, and these side effects, are not necessarily rare, its not like we give steroids and necessarily expect them to have these side effects. It's very hard to put a number on how often these side effects occur because there are so many different medications that can cause these symptoms and so many other factors that can contribute towards mental status changes. So you will never get a concrete number on how often these mental side effects occur, but if I had to put a number, I would say less than 10%, at least based on my experience of giving thousands of patients steroids.

There are over 30 million documented COVID-19 cases and 1 million deaths worldwide, and over 200,000 deaths in the US. The clinical spectrum of disease can range anywhere from no symptoms to mild symptoms, to pneumonia, to ARDS and shock with multiorgan failure, and death. Because COVID-19 is a new disease, the possible long-term health consequences, are still not well-known. So these long term effects of COVID-19, we can call this post-acute COVID-19, defined as the presence of symptoms extending beyond 3 weeks from the initial onset of symptoms. And Chronic COVID-19 is beyond 12 weeks.

But post-acute COVID-19 syndrome is not just seen in those who had severe illness and were hospitalized. In a telephone survey conducted by the CDC among a random sample of 292 adults (≥18 years) who had a positive outpatient COVID-19 test and were symptomatic, 35% said they did not return to their usual state of health 2 weeks or more after testing. And this occurred in all ages of adults.

The most commonly reported symptoms after acute COVID-19 are fatigue and dyspnea. And this is exactly what I’ve been seeing with some of my patients with COVID-19. This persistence of fatigue, and feeling short of breath. Other symptoms include joint pain and chest pain. In addition to these symptoms, there are cases of patients with specific organ dysfunction, primarily involving the heart, lungs, and brain. This might be a result of viral invasion, by hijacking those ACE2 receptors in our body, but it can also be related to the intense inflammation and cytokine storm, or a combination of these.

In a study of 55 patients with COVID-19, at 3 months after discharge, 35 had persistent symptoms and 39 had abnormal findings on chest x-ray or CT scan, meaning interstitial thickening and evidence of fibrosis, meaning scarring. In 2 different studies that were done, they looked at patients with COVID-19 who were discharged from the hospital. At about three months after discharge, about 25-30% of patients had at least some impairment in lung function, as evidenced by pulmonary function tests.

Heart damage, aka myocardial injury, as defined by an increased troponin level in the blood, has been described in patients with severe acute COVID-19. Inflammation of the heart muscle, meaning myocarditis, in addition to heart arrhythmias, have also been described after SARS-CoV-2 infection. I dedicated an entire video to this topic, so you can check that out for more details. The virus that causes COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, can infiltrate brain tissue when the virus gets in the blood. It can also get to the brain by invading the olfactory nerve, which is the nerve responsible for smell. This is why loss of smell (anosmia) is a common symptom. Besides loss of smell, and loss of taste, the most common long-term neurologic symptoms after COVID-19 are headache and dizziness. Less common, but still possible, is stroke, brain inflammation, meaning encephalitis, and seizures. In previous pandemics with SARS, MERS, and influenza, they some people who recovered from those illnesses had neuropsychiatric issues that lingered for months. So were talking about cognitive health here, like depression and anxiety. And post-covid-19 is known to cause “brain fog” and mood swings, this has been reported up to 2 to 3 months after initial COVID illness.
 

marsh

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13:59 min
Coronavirus Update 111: Masks; New Vitamin D Data and COVID 19; NAC
•Oct 9, 2020

MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY

Professor Roger Seheult, MD discusses important COVID 19 Updates including: - A new study on oxygenation levels when wearing masks - New data on vitamin D levels and COVID-19 infections - The results of a recent study of hospitalized patients using NAC (N Acetylcysteine) - An overview of recent coronavirus data from the United States, United Kingdom, Spain, Canada, India, Hawaii, and more

(This video was recorded on October 9, 2020). Dr. Seheult is the co-founder and lead instructor at https://www.medcram.com

LINKS / REFERENCES: Johns Hopkins Tracker | https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html Worldometer | https://www.worldometers.info/coronav... Effect of Face Masks on Gas Exchange in Healthy Persons and Patients with COPD | https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/pdf/1... SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels | https://journals.plos.org/plosone/art... Double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled trial with N-acetylcysteine for treatment of severe acute respiratory syndrome caused by COVID-19 (Clinical Infectious Diseases) | https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-...
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
8 hr 5 min ago

US FDA issues warning to herbal medicine companies offering Covid-19 products
From CNN Health’s Leanna Faulk

The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued warning letters to two herbal medicine companies telling them to stop trying to sell products which they allege are effective against the coronavirus.

Colorado-based Prairie Dawn Herbs was warned after the FDA investigated its website and social media sites and learned the company was selling products it claimed could protect the immune system and combat symptoms of Covid-19, the FDA said in a news release Friday.
“Based on our review, this product is an unapproved new drug under section 505 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act,” the agency wrote in a warning letter it sent the company Wednesday. “Furthermore, this product is a misbranded drug."
The FDA cited a monthly newsletter posted to the company’s website offering 20% off several herbal products (Chest Tea, Echinacea Tincture, Mentholated Salve, Eucalyptus Oil, Thieves Oil and Echinacea Glycerite) for the duration of the outbreak “due to the continued threat of COVID-19.”

The FDA also warned Griffo Botanicals for selling herbal tincture products it said could treat symptoms of Covid-19.
There are no FDA-approved products to prevent or treat coronavirus. One antiviral drug, remdesivir, has emergency use authorization for treatment but must be used in a hospital under physician supervision.

The FDA says that until the companies took corrective action, they would be on a list of firms and websites that have received warning letters from the FDA “concerning the sale or distribution of COVID-19 related products.”

As of Friday afternoon, the COVID-19 Special was still available for purchase on the Prairie Dawn Herbs website. There was no mention of Covid-19 treatments on the Griffo Botanicals website.

 
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marsh

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12:30 min
Coronavirus Update 112: Linoleic Acid; Vaccines; UK COVID 19 Data
•Oct 13, 2020


MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY

Professor Roger Seheult, MD breaks down important COVID 19 Updates including: - A new study on how an essential fatty acid (Linoleic Acid) may prevent SARS-CoV-2 binding - UK data suggests that COVID-19 cases are increasing exponentially as testing increases linearly - Johnson and Johnson paused their COVID-19 vaccine trial due to a possible adverse effect. (This video was recorded on October 13, 2020). Dr. Seheult is the co-founder and lead instructor at https://www.medcram.com

LINKS / REFERENCES: Johns Hopkins Tracker | https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html Worldometer | https://www.worldometers.info/coronav... Free fatty acid binding pocket in the locked structure of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (Science) | https://science.sciencemag.org/conten... Linoleic Acid: A Nutritional Quandary (Healthcare) | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti... Californians hospitalized with COVID-19 at lowest level in 6 months (Los Angeles Times) | https://www.latimes.com/california/st... THE MEDCRAM WEBSITE: Visit us for videos on over 60 medical topics and CME / CEs for medical professionals: https://www.medcram.com SUBSCRIBE TO THE MEDCRAM

 

marsh

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24:43 min
Flu Vac [and COVID -19]
•Oct 14, 2020


Dr. John Campbell

Seasonal Influenza Caused by influenza viruses Photo Credit: Cynthia Goldsmith Content Providers(s): CDC/ Dr. Terrence Tumpey. X 100,000 CDC https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm UK, 2020 - 2021 https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content... the national flu immunisation programme will be absolutely essential to protecting vulnerable people and supporting the resilience of the health and care system Mild to severe illness Higher viral doses, the more sick people became https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/... Old, young, co-morbidities https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/...

Annually (US) since 2010 9 million – 45 million illnesses 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations 12,000 – 61,000 deaths https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/healt...

Clinical features in children Fever, which may be as high as 103°F (39.4°C) to 105°F (40.5°C) Body aches, which may be severe Headache Sore throat Cough that gets worse Tiredness Runny or stuffy nose Nausea Vomiting Diarrhea Possible complications in children Pneumonia Dehydration Salts (electrolytes) Worsening of long-term medical problems Brain dysfunction such as encephalopathy Sinus problems and ear infections In rare cases, death Initial concern Increased Risk of Noninfluenza Respiratory Virus Infections Associated With Receipt of Inactivated Influenza Vaccine (Clinical Infectious Diseases, 2012) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...

We were able to observe a statistically significant increased risk of confirmed noninfluenza respiratory virus infection among TIV recipients Covid-19: Risk of death more than doubled in people who also had flu, English data show https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m...

Odds of death were 2.27 times higher than in people with SARS-CoV-2 alone possible synergistic effects in coinfected people Safety of Influenza Vaccine during COVID-19 (September 2020, Journal of Clinical and Translational Science, Cleveland Clinic) https://www.cambridge.org/core/journa...

The convergence with influenza season could result in significant morbidity and mortality Patients (n = 18,868) tested for COVID-19 4,138 flu vac, 2019-2020 9,082 not flu vaccinated Vaccinated group Higher BMI On more meds More co-morbidities Older Blood work Is someone had flu vac and tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 Unadjusted analysis shows: Vaccinated individuals were less likely to test positive for SARS-CoV-2 More likely to be hospitalized More likely to be admitted to the ICU and die during hospitalization But, once adjusted Influenza vaccination was unrelated to incidence of SARS- CoV-2 infection Increased risk for worse hospital outcomes was not related to influenza vaccination In people with COVID-19, influenza vaccination did not impact risk for hospitalization Or ICU admission Or hospital mortality

Overall Influenza vaccination does not increase the incidence of COVID-19 or worsen the related morbidity or mortality Providing reassurance that the vaccination strategy for global influenza should proceed as planned during the COVID-19 pandemic Surveillance data needs to be prospectively collected in fall 2020 Study the outcome of concurrent SARS-CoV-2 and influenza infection Assess any interaction between influenza vaccinations, a newly developed vaccine against coronavirus, influenza and COVID-19 infection Odds of death were 2.27 times higher than in people with SARS-CoV-2 alone
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIvRR_y5i-k
22:20 min

Zinc
•Oct 15, 2020


Dr. John Campbell

President Trump taking zinc (WSJ) https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-ta... Low zinc levels at clinical admission associates with poor outcomes in COVID-19, (11th October) https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.11... Zinc balances immune responses and also has a proven direct antiviral action against some viruses.

Zinc deficiency (ZD) is a common condition in elderly and individuals with chronic diseases Increased intracellular zinc concentrations efficiently impair replication Resulting in a lower number of viruses

Retrospective analysis Patients admitted in Barcelona 15th March to 30th April 2020 Clinical severity of COVID-19 and PMH assessed Fasting plasma zinc levels measured routinely at admission N = 611 Mean age, 63 years Male 332, (55%) Total mortality was 87 patients (14%) during study time But 249 of 611 patients studied Of the 249, 21 (8%) died Baseline zinc levels Died, (21 people) mean plasma zinc = 43 μg/dl Survived, (228 people) mean plasma zinc = 63.1 μg/dl Higher zinc levels, associated with lower maximum levels of interleukin-6 during the period of active infection Zinc level lower than 50 μg/dl at admission, 2.3 times increased risk of in-hospital death Compared with those of 50 μg/dl or higher Lower zinc levels at admission correlate with higher inflammation in the course of infection and poorer outcome Low plasma zinc levels at admission are associated with mortality in COVID-19 in our study

Further studies are needed to assess the therapeutic impact of this association COVID-19: Poor outcomes in patients with zinc deficiency (International Journal of Infectious Diseases, November 2020) Chennai, India Prospective study of fasting zinc levels in COVID-19 patients at the time of hospitalization Healthy controls median 105.8 μg/dl https://www.sciencedirect.com/science... Zinc is a trace element with potent immunoregulatory and antiviral properties Is utilized in the treatment of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) Patients with serious COVID-19 had significantly low zinc levels in comparison to healthy controls Zinc deficient COVID patients developed more complications Zinc deficient patients 70.4% developed complications Non zinc deficient patients, 30.0% developed complications, (p = 0.009) Acute respiratory distress syndrome More need of steroids Increased mortality Zinc deficient COVID patients had a prolonged hospital stay Zinc deficient patients, 7.9 days Non zinc deficient patients, 5.7 days, (p = 0.048) In vitro studies

Reduced zinc levels increase SARS-CoV-2 virus receptor interactions Increased zinc levels inhibit ACE2 expression https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Zin...

What zinc does Catalytic activity of approximately 100 enzymes Plays a role in immune function Protein synthesis Wound healing DNA synthesis Cell division Normal growth and development, pregnancy, childhood, adolescence Required for sense of taste and smell Zinc and immunity Severe zinc deficiency depresses immune function Even mild to moderate degrees of zinc deficiency can impair macrophage and neutrophil functions, natural killer cell activity, and complement activity Body requires zinc to develop and activate T-lymphocytes Low zinc levels have shown reduced lymphocyte proliferation …. that can be corrected by zinc supplementation Low zinc status has been associated with increased susceptibility to pneumonia and other infections in children in developing countries and the elderly

Foods Oysters Sea food Beef Pork Baked beans Fortified cereals Pumpkin seeds Yogurt Cashew nuts Chickpeas Oats Almonds
Vitamin D and zinc can be made in bulk for essentially nothing
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUdQpFyF2G8
15:20 min
Coronavirus Update 113: Remdesivir May Not Work for COVID 19
•Oct 16, 2020


MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY

Professor Roger Seheult, MD explains the largest study to date on Remdesivir that casts doubt on its effectiveness as a treatment for COVID-19. The WHO SOLIDARITY trial data was released on October 15, 2020 and included 11,266 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 and evaluated remdesivir,
hydroxychloroquine, lopinavir/ritonavir, and interferon. None of the medications studied showed a statistically significant benefit (This video was recorded on October 15, 2020). Dr. Seheult is the co-founder and lead instructor at https://www.medcram.com

LINKS / REFERENCES: Johns Hopkins Tracker | https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html Worldometer | https://www.worldometers.info/coronav... WHO study says remdesivir did not reduce mortality in COVID-19 patients - FT (Reuters) | https://www.reuters.com/article/healt... Remdesivir for the Treatment of Covid-19 — Final Report (NEJM) | https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056... “Solidarity” clinical trial for COVID-19 treatments (WHO) | https://www.who.int/emergencies/disea... Repurposed antiviral drugs for COVID-19 –interim WHO SOLIDARITY trial results (MedRxiv) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.11...
 

jward

passin' thru
Frozen food package polluted by living coronavirus could cause infection, China's CDC says
By Reuters Staff
3 Min Read

BEIJING (Reuters) - China’s disease control authority said on Saturday that contact with frozen food packaging contaminated by living new coronavirus could cause infection.


FILE PHOTO: A woman looks at frozen food products in a supermarket in Beijing, China, August 13, 2020. REUTERS/Thomas Peter
The conclusion came as the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) detected and isolated living coronavirus on the outer packaging of frozen cod during efforts to trace the virus in an outbreak reported last week in the city of Qingdao, the agency said on its website.
The finding, a world first, suggests it is possible for the virus to be conveyed over long distances via frozen goods, it said.
Two dock workers in Qingdao who were initially diagnosed as asymptomatic infections in September brought the virus to a chest hospital during quarantine due to insufficient disinfection and protection, leading to another 12 infections linked to the hospital, authorities said last week.

However, the CDC’s latest statement does not show solid proof that the two workers in Qingdao caught the virus from the packaging directly, rather than contracting the virus from somewhere else and then contaminating the food packaging they handled, said Jin Dong-Yan, a virology professor at the University of Hong Kong.
The CDC said no instance had been found of any consumer contracting the virus by having contact with frozen food and the risk of this happening remained very low.
Nonetheless it advised that workers who handle, process and sell frozen products should avoid direct skin contact with products that could possibly be polluted.

Staff should not touch their mouth or nose before taking off work garments that could possibly be contaminated without washing their hands and should take tests regularly, the agency said.
Prior to the CDC’s latest findings genetic traces of the virus had been found in some samples taken from frozen food or food packaging, but the amount of virus was low and no living virus was isolated, the agency said.
Only living virus can infect people, while samples containing dead virus could also test positive for virus traces, Jin said.
Reporting by Roxanne Liu and Tony Munroe; Editing by David Holmes
Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho0pLU3hPoA
38:49 min
The Costs of Coronavirus - October 20, 2020
•Streamed live 6 hours ago


JAMA Network

The costs of the coronavirus pandemic are unprecedented in their dimensions: • David M. Cutler, PhD discusses financial costs: the $16 trillion dollar virus. https://ja.ma/359DmNo. • Lisa A. Cooper, MD, MPH of Johns Hopkins University discusses the costs to communities of color in excess deaths and bereavement. https://ja.ma/3o4zaXO. • Charles R. Marmar, MD of NYU Grossman School of Medicine discusses the mental health costs. https://ja.ma/3o0tu0W. Recorded October 20, 2020. •

Topics discussed in this interview: 0:00 Introduction 2:19 “The $16 Trillion Virus” 6:25 COVID-19 and communities of color 14:50 COVID-19 and mental health 20:50 Economic consequences of disenfranchisement 23:00 Economic projections 24:49 Focusing on communities of color 27:18 Interventions to increase equity 29:14 Needed steps to address mental health 32:17 US debt and borrowing money 35:00 Is equity elusive?

 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-31xcWma9I
24:43 min
Flu Vac [and COVID -19]
•Oct 14, 2020


Dr. John Campbell

Seasonal Influenza Caused by influenza viruses Photo Credit: Cynthia Goldsmith Content Providers(s): CDC/ Dr. Terrence Tumpey. X 100,000 CDC https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm UK, 2020 - 2021 https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content... the national flu immunisation programme will be absolutely essential to protecting vulnerable people and supporting the resilience of the health and care system Mild to severe illness Higher viral doses, the more sick people became https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/... Old, young, co-morbidities https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/...

Annually (US) since 2010 9 million – 45 million illnesses 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations 12,000 – 61,000 deaths https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/healt...

Clinical features in children Fever, which may be as high as 103°F (39.4°C) to 105°F (40.5°C) Body aches, which may be severe Headache Sore throat Cough that gets worse Tiredness Runny or stuffy nose Nausea Vomiting Diarrhea Possible complications in children Pneumonia Dehydration Salts (electrolytes) Worsening of long-term medical problems Brain dysfunction such as encephalopathy Sinus problems and ear infections In rare cases, death Initial concern Increased Risk of Noninfluenza Respiratory Virus Infections Associated With Receipt of Inactivated Influenza Vaccine (Clinical Infectious Diseases, 2012) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...

We were able to observe a statistically significant increased risk of confirmed noninfluenza respiratory virus infection among TIV recipients Covid-19: Risk of death more than doubled in people who also had flu, English data show https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m...

Odds of death were 2.27 times higher than in people with SARS-CoV-2 alone possible synergistic effects in coinfected people Safety of Influenza Vaccine during COVID-19 (September 2020, Journal of Clinical and Translational Science, Cleveland Clinic) https://www.cambridge.org/core/journa...

The convergence with influenza season could result in significant morbidity and mortality Patients (n = 18,868) tested for COVID-19 4,138 flu vac, 2019-2020 9,082 not flu vaccinated Vaccinated group Higher BMI On more meds More co-morbidities Older Blood work Is someone had flu vac and tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 Unadjusted analysis shows: Vaccinated individuals were less likely to test positive for SARS-CoV-2 More likely to be hospitalized More likely to be admitted to the ICU and die during hospitalization But, once adjusted Influenza vaccination was unrelated to incidence of SARS- CoV-2 infection Increased risk for worse hospital outcomes was not related to influenza vaccination In people with COVID-19, influenza vaccination did not impact risk for hospitalization Or ICU admission Or hospital mortality

Overall Influenza vaccination does not increase the incidence of COVID-19 or worsen the related morbidity or mortality Providing reassurance that the vaccination strategy for global influenza should proceed as planned during the COVID-19 pandemic Surveillance data needs to be prospectively collected in fall 2020 Study the outcome of concurrent SARS-CoV-2 and influenza infection Assess any interaction between influenza vaccinations, a newly developed vaccine against coronavirus, influenza and COVID-19 infection Odds of death were 2.27 times higher than in people with SARS-CoV-2 alone
For this reason, I got my first flu shot in over 10 years. Co-infection is serious risk.
 

Zagdid

Veteran Member

Covid-19’s wintry mix: As we move indoors, dry air will help the coronavirus spread
By ELIZABETH COONEY @cooney_liz OCTOBER 21, 2020


It’s not just the cold, it’s the humidity.

Winter in the northern United States will soon drive even the most diehard outdoor diners and backyard socializers indoors, bringing with them heightened risk for contracting and spreading Covid-19. The worry is not just that people might mingle more closely inside, but that the air they breathe will make the virus more dangerous.

Cold, dry air facilitates the spread of the coronavirus, and the social distancing that helped outside won’t be as effective indoors, scientists said.

“I do worry about this pandemic potentially getting worse this winter,” Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist at the Yale School of Medicine, told STAT. “All the same kind of concerns that usually apply to other respiratory infections are the same with this virus.”

The coronavirus that causes Covid-19 will thrive this winter for three reasons: dropping temperatures, diving relative humidity, and drier respiratory tracts. When the weather turns cold, air gets drier. And turning on the heat dries both the air and the tissues lining the airways, impairing how well mucus removes debris and invaders like SARS-CoV-2.

Studies show significantly more infections happen and spread when the relative humidity falls from between 40% and 60% — a range typical in warmer weather — to 20%. That research draws from past outbreaks of flu and MERS, which is caused by another coronavirus. More recent case reports from the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic’s early days in China and Seattle conclude the same thing: The virus stays stable longer and finds purchase on receptors in our airways better when the relative humidity sits at a wintry 20%. That’s one reason why we catch more colds and flu in cold weather.

Limiting the number of people in a confined space, wearing a mask, and ensuring good ventilation can help reduce the risk of infection indoors. But still, the viral particles from an infected person are unlikely to just blow away, as they might outside on a windy day. Consequently, the admonition for people to stay six feet apart may not be adequate in offices, schools, restaurants, and other indoor spaces, some scientists said. Even when social distancing outdoors, “six feet is not magic,” Iwasaki said.

Martin Bazant, professor of chemical engineering and mathematics at MIT, urges people to think “beyond six feet,” which is how he and his colleague John Bush titled their paper posted to the preprint server medRxiv last month.

“It was recognized early on that so-called superspreading events, which invariably occur indoors among persons separated by more than six feet, can only be explained by airborne transmission,” he said in an interview.

Models for indoor air assume that pathogens like the SARS-CoV-2 virus are distributed uniformly throughout indoor rooms. “In such well-mixed spaces, one is no safer from airborne pathogens at 60 feet than 6 feet,” Bazant and Bush wrote.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has issued conflicting guidance. In September, the agency changed the information on its website about airborne transmission of Covid-19, first saying it could be spread beyond six feet through droplets or small particles in aerosols produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, sings, talks, or breathes. Three days later, CDC removed information about aerosols and distances greater than six feet, saying a draft guidance had been mistakenly posted.

A CDC scientific brief posted Oct. 5 held to the six-foot standard: “Available data indicate that SARS-CoV-2 has spread more like most other common respiratory viruses, primarily through respiratory droplet transmission within a short range (e.g., less than six feet).” The agency also said it found no evidence of routine, rapid spread to people far away or who enter a space hours after an infectious person was there.

“Unfortunately, 10 months into the pandemic, public health agencies are still reluctant to acknowledge airborne transmission, let alone question the six-foot rule. Official guidelines still focus on large-drop transmission in coughs and sneezes, where six feet is an arbitrary distance for those droplets to settle to the floor,” Bazant said. “Aerosol transmission was previously implicated in the spread of SARS and measles with less evidence than we have now for Covid-19, so I am hopeful that change will come soon, as the scientific consensus grows.”

Bazant and Bush, an expert on respiratory fluid mechanics, have created a guideline to gauge the risk of airborne transmission that takes into account factors such as exposure time, room size, ventilation, and human activity. They designed a spreadsheet and online app intended to be simple enough for public health agencies to endorse and the public to use.

“Depending on ventilation, mask use, air filtration, and other variables, any indoor space may carry either low or high risk of transmission,” Bazant said.

Local regulations may govern ventilation in public places, but they don’t go far enough in the view of Yale’s Iwasaki. She and others are urging the World Health Organization to add relative humidity to indoor-air standards for such public places as schools and nursing homes. “It’s really to take action by setting the standard from 40 to 60% humidity, because that’s the optimal humidity for health and respiratory infection prevention,” she said about the online petition.

Pending such a move, there’s always the mask option indoors.

Masks are more effective than ventilation or air filtration because they filter aerosols and large drops at their source, as a person emits them. That means either more people can safely be in a room together or they can safely spend more time there, compared to a space that has only ventilation or air filtration.

Hospital intensive care units typically have negative air pressure ventilation — forcing out internal air — to protect their extremely ill patients, but that’s not necessarily the case for beds on regular floors, Iwasaki said, putting patients at risk.

Two other scientists have appealed to the medical community and public health bodies to provide more guidance about precautions for indoor spaces. “Hand washing and social distancing are appropriate but, in our view, insufficient to provide protection from virus-carrying respiratory microdroplets released into the air by infected people,” Linda Morawska of Queensland University of Technology and Donald Milton of the University of Maryland School of Public Health wrote in Clinical Infectious Diseases. “This problem is especially acute in indoor or enclosed environments, particularly those that are crowded and have inadequate ventilation relative to the number of occupants and extended exposure periods.”

Iwasaki advises people to buy humidifiers for their homes, if they can. She has always told her children to bundle up with scarves over their noses when they go out in the winter, and she herself, back when she used to travel, always wore a mask on an airplane. She had three reasons: to prevent viruses from reaching her mouth and nose, to keep them warm, and to keep them moist.

“We don’t know where this is going to end up — we haven’t had a year with it yet,” she said about the pandemic. “I think we have to be extra cautious going into the winter.”
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
Living in Florida, we have the option of being outside in the winter. However, I do feel that going into restaurants, now that the flu season is upon us, is foolhardy. For a while, eating in restaurants here was OK if the establishment was being sensible about keeping patrons apart. However, now that 'season' is upon us and all the snowbirds are crowding everything, it is no longer safe. I will be wearing my N95 mask and gloves everywhere this winter.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h8gvYJtglchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h8gvYJtglc
39:02 min

Coronavirus Update With Rochelle Walensky

•Streamed live 104 minutes ago


JAMA Network

Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, MPH of Harvard Medical School and Massachusetts General Hospital returns to JAMA's COVID-19 Q&A to provide an update on developments in the pandemic. She is a signatory of the recent John Snow Memorandum emphasizing the importance of public health interventions to managing spread of COVID-19.

 

Krayola

Veteran Member
I saw on yahoo earlier that the CDC has changed the rule for close contact. The CDC's earlier definition of a close contact was initially defined as being closer than 6 feet to a person with COVID for 15 minutes or more. That has now been amended to cover a cumulative 15 minutes or more over a 24-hour period. So if you are spending short periods of time with an infected person (15 minutes or more) over 24 hrs you are at risk for catching the virus per the CDC.
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I saw on yahoo earlier that the CDC has changed the rule for close contact. The CDC's earlier definition of a close contact was initially defined as being closer than 6 feet to a person with COVID for 15 minutes or more. That has now been amended to cover a cumulative 15 minutes or more over a 24-hour period. So if you are spending short periods of time with an infected person (15 minutes or more) over 24 hrs you are at risk for catching the virus per the CDC.
This just feels wrong. How often have we all gotten a cold or flu after a 30 second meeting? They must be assuming that both parties are wearing masks in their 15 minute timeframe.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
FREEDOM IS RISK!! Living is RISK!! Breathing is RISK!! Getting out of the damn bed in the morning is a friggen risk.

Are you willing to accept the results of your own actions? Then go for it!! No crying or whining when the bill comes due. You cannot shut down the world without killing it. I don't see one single politician going hungry or at risk of losing their homes. Get real you elected boneheads. You are not gods....just fricken politicians, WHORES at best.....sluts at worst. Pull your heads out and come up with a way out of this that does not destroy us. THAT - IS - YOUR - DAMN - JOB!

HOWEVER

The CHINESE VIRUS IS REAL!
I firmly believe it is a BIO-WEAPON. It is absolutely unconscionable and matters not whether it was an accidental escape or purposeful release......it is totally unacceptable to be experimenting or delving into this murderous vicious area of warfare!! I believe that China should be punished to the fullest extent possible. They should be shunned throughout the world for their abominable inhuman vicious actions!! The leadership in China MUST be replaced and all individuals involved held personally accountable for all the deaths THROUGHOUT the WORLD!! Every scientist, researcher, politician, janitor, any and everyone that worked on this project MUST be imprisoned for life at hard labor as a example that this garbage will not be tolerated anymore on this planet!!

Enough is enough!! This crap must end!
 

Doat

Veteran Member
With all those that came down with covid at the rose garden and came through it just fine than we should be expecting the same for all. No deaths, no long stays in the hospital, no ventilators. Or where they treated differently? Keep your eye on the stats.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knAn8XV8-No
5:23 min
HHS Secretary Alex Azar on COVID-19 vaccine timeline and "concerning" pandemic trend
•Oct 22, 2020



CBS This Morning

Coronavirus cases are increasing in nearly 75% of the U.S., according to the Centers for Disease Control. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar joined "CBS This Morning" to discuss the "concerning" trend and a new Politico report that claims he is working to oust the FDA commissioner.
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
With all those that came down with covid at the rose garden and came through it just fine than we should be expecting the same for all. No deaths, no long stays in the hospital, no ventilators. Or where they treated differently? Keep your eye on the stats.
Christie was in ICU for 7 days
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQO1PB8-xtg
20:38 min
Coronavirus Update 114: COVID 19 Death Rate Drops; NAC (N-acetylcysteine) Data

•Oct 22, 2020


MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY

Professor Roger Seheult, MD discusses new data on dropping death rates for COVID-19 (and possible causes) and a new study on NAC (N-acetyl cysteine) in hospitalized patients with COVID 19. In the small study, there was a significant downward trend of markers of inflammation (C-reactive protein, bilirubin, and ferritin with each NAC infusion. (This video was recorded on October 22, 2020).

Dr. Seheult is the co-founder and lead instructor at https://www.medcram.com

LINKS / REFERENCES: Johns Hopkins Tracker | https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html Worldometer | https://www.worldometers.info/coronav... Studies Point To Big Drop In COVID-19 Death Rates (NPR) | https://www.npr.org/sections/health-s... Improving COVID-19 critical care mortality over time in England: A national cohort study, March to June 2020 (medRxiv) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.11... Trends in Covid-19 risk-adjusted mortality rates in a single health system (medRxiv) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.11... Therapeutic blockade of inflammation in severe COVID-19 infection with intravenous N-acetylcysteine (Clinical Immunology) | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science... Examination of Hydroxychloroquine Use and Hemolytic Anemia in G6PDH‐Deficient Patients (Arthritis Care & Research) | https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/f...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ1h33mPGuU
 
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