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Virtualco
Panic Early - Panic Often
Well I feel safer knowing my county government is on this case. /sarcasm offTo my fellow Floridians - getting a little too close to home...
And why do these people give their names? The State is all about protecting their privacy and they just call in to the news using their names and location.
Anyway, she wasn't on the Princess, she was on the ship that docked in Cambodia. ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION OF SELF QUARANTINE. Just checking temperature and calling of they have a cough?!? Do they not read the news? She can be an asymptomatic carrier...
(fair use applies)
SWFL woman stuck on cruise due to coronavirus returns home
A Southwest Florida woman who was stuck in the middle of a coronavirus quarantine is finally back home in Southwest Florida. Holley Rauen arrived at Southwest Florida International Airport Wednesday after she became stuck on a cruise ship for almost two weeks when a fellow passenger was...www.winknews.com
SWFL woman stuck on cruise due to coronavirus returns home
Reporter: Morgan Rynor | Writer: Jack Lowenstein
Published: February 20, 2020 11:50 PM EST | Updated: February 20, 2020 11:52 PM EST
A Southwest Florida woman who was stuck in the middle of a coronavirus quarantine is finally back home in Southwest Florida.
Holley Rauen arrived at Southwest Florida International Airport Wednesday after she became stuck on a cruise ship for almost two weeks when a fellow passenger was diagnosed with coronavirus.
Rauen several ports, including the United States, denied her ship access because of the virus. She said it felt like they were refugees. She says eventually Cambodia allowed her and her fellow passengers in its country and she was able to begin her trip home.
“True joy. Everyone cheered and had gratitude that we could find a safe harbor in Cambodia,” Rauen said.
When we asked about her experience coming home, she called it bittersweet.
“For us it was a very good experience even though it was stressful that we or someone would test positive for the coronavirus,” Rauen said.
She says the Lee County health department called her and her partner and asked them to monitor themselves for 14 days.
Rauen said they will check their temperature twice a day and monitor any coughs.
I could have been next to her at Sam's this morning.
(must learn to hold breath longer)
Zahra
Veteran Member
I haven't been terribly impressed by Dr. Fauci to date, but at least he's going on media outlets and telling folks that "we're on the brink of a pandemic" (Duh!!!)
Dr. Anthony Fauci: We are clearly at the brink of a pandemic with novel coronavirus - CNN Video
Dr. Anthony Fauci: We are clearly at the brink of a pandemic with novel coronavirus - CNN Video
auxman
Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit...
Tom McDowell
BAMN
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWJBJq-tVsc
RT: 26:45
BE SURE TO READ Chris' latest free report "Why Covid-19 Demands Our Full Attention" here: https://www.peakprosperity.com/why-co... Then WATCH UPDATE #28 HERE: https://youtu.be/rnJ2iLZd7HY
Boy this is not good... Covid-19 cases are leaping higher in disparate countries around the globe -- doubling overnight in South Korea, Italy and Iran.
New research continues to clarifying how *extremely* contagious this virus is (as the rash of worldwide infections confirms). It increasingly looks like the only hope countries have of containing covid-19 is to use the draconian mass quarantine efforts that China is enforcing on its populace.
Don't assume that can't happen where you live. It may be the only alternative for your government to pursue, which is why preparing now for self-isolation/home quarantine is extremely prudent.
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Tristan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Craftypatches
Veteran Member
Hey anything is better than dieing!I wouldn't want to destroy the integrity of the layers.
Hell, an absorbent gel might sequester some of the moisture out of your breath?
I've made a quick look for the ASTM specs on that material, looking for airflow characteristics, in particular....no joy.
Walkntrot's blanket statement doesn't ring true to me, now I'm on a mission.
Tom McDowell
BAMN
1 hr 10 min ago
Japanese health minister admits 23 passengers were released from cruise ship without being retested for coronavirus
From CNN’s Yoko Wakatsuki in Tokyo
The Japanese Ministry of Health has discovered that 23 passengers from the Diamond Princess cruise ship were released after their quarantine without being retested, a condition of their release.
“I (feel deep) remorse that an operational mistake invited such a situation and we would like to make sure that such a situation will never occur again,” health minister Katsunobu Kato said during a press conference Saturday.
The ministry also confirmed that one of the ship’s passengers, a woman in her 60s from Tochigi Prefecture in Japan, tested positive for coronavirus after disembarking the Diamond Princess on February 19.
She was among the 443 passengers cleared to leave the ship on the first day of disembarkation after a 14-day quarantine.
She is the first known case of infection after the end of the passenger quarantine period.
www.cnn.com
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Japanese health minister admits 23 passengers were released from cruise ship without being retested for coronavirus
From CNN’s Yoko Wakatsuki in Tokyo
The Japanese Ministry of Health has discovered that 23 passengers from the Diamond Princess cruise ship were released after their quarantine without being retested, a condition of their release.
“I (feel deep) remorse that an operational mistake invited such a situation and we would like to make sure that such a situation will never occur again,” health minister Katsunobu Kato said during a press conference Saturday.
The ministry also confirmed that one of the ship’s passengers, a woman in her 60s from Tochigi Prefecture in Japan, tested positive for coronavirus after disembarking the Diamond Princess on February 19.
She was among the 443 passengers cleared to leave the ship on the first day of disembarkation after a 14-day quarantine.
She is the first known case of infection after the end of the passenger quarantine period.
February 22, 2020 coronavirus news
Cases in the Asian country have surged past 430 after more than 220 new infections were reported in 24 hours. Nearly half of the total cases are associated with a religious group in the south of the country.
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Greybeard7
Veteran Member
Just a couple of thoughts.
Dust masks. Yes, I know they won't protect you from the flu. But, I might use one just to stop me from inadvertently touching my nose and mouth. It's amazing how reflexive it is just to scratch your nose.
Contacts. I wear them every day. May stop doing that and go back to glasses, again to stop the reflexive touching around the eyes. An alternative might be shooting glasses, as they usually wrap around a bit and would further inhibit reflexive touching around the eyes.
I know it's not protection, but if I go out it might help me from touching my face until I get home and use hand sanitizer.
Dust masks. Yes, I know they won't protect you from the flu. But, I might use one just to stop me from inadvertently touching my nose and mouth. It's amazing how reflexive it is just to scratch your nose.
Contacts. I wear them every day. May stop doing that and go back to glasses, again to stop the reflexive touching around the eyes. An alternative might be shooting glasses, as they usually wrap around a bit and would further inhibit reflexive touching around the eyes.
I know it's not protection, but if I go out it might help me from touching my face until I get home and use hand sanitizer.
Not trying to nit-pick, but if we go with numbers and percentages, the largest population est. I've seen for China is 1.5 billion, not "several billion." The infection rates in South Korea and the cruise ships suggests that under certain circumstances, the RO can be alarmingly high, and Iran's first official numbers were two DEAD people.
It's still early yet. A week ago, I was a skeptic, because China is just too bat-shit-crazy-dysfunctional to make any definitive conclusions about face plant videos, "hospital"/jail videos, corpse filled van videos, welded door videos, etc. Now, we have more reliable sources of outside information - less dramatic, so far, but seriously Not Good.
Short version for relevant stats and medical info: Watch a few of the most recent Chris Martensen videos.
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Lone Eagle Woman
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Now heard on another forum - news piece the following news. Can this be confirmed? It is thus ... "I have several supposed leaked accounts out of China in which am told that Blacks and Americans of West European extraction are not succumbing like the Chinese". If this is so then it would be interesting.
pinkelsteinsmom
Veteran Member
50% kill rate of those in ICU!
hiwall
Has No Life - Lives on TB
If things were so bad the hospital had to implement that extreme plan then I can't imagine it would make much difference to anyone.
I'm glad you said that instead of me. A long time ago I posted on another forum that Colloidal Silver doesn't work and people jumped all over me. Since you said it already I'll say it too. It doesn't do &hit because you cannot ingest enough to get at the pathogens. What rondaben said!
cyberiot
Rimtas žmogus
The words "don't touch your face" make my nose itch.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
What Rodabean said is pretty much what Nightwolf said about Colloidal Silver as well, Nighfwolf said it has shown to be very useful for exterior treatments like on burn bandages or other wounds. But that taken it internally is not advised at this time.
He suggested however that having some around to treat other injuries you might not want to take to the ER or simply not be able to treat at the ER in the middle of a pandemic is a good idea.
He then mentioned again the fact that in 1918 and in the 14th/17th century outbreaks a lot of people died from non-flu/non-Plague related illness or injuries that could not be treated because of the pandemic situation.
He suggested however that having some around to treat other injuries you might not want to take to the ER or simply not be able to treat at the ER in the middle of a pandemic is a good idea.
He then mentioned again the fact that in 1918 and in the 14th/17th century outbreaks a lot of people died from non-flu/non-Plague related illness or injuries that could not be treated because of the pandemic situation.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
I got dust masks to put under home-made salt masks or even to try wearing under the high-level masks that usually make my face break out (I get burn marks after about 2 minutes all around my mouth and nose).
I think using the menstrual pads (possibly taking them apart a bit) and using them with the salt masks or dusk masks might also help (even a homemade cloth mask).
Nothing is 100 percent but the masks and face shields (even made from a cut-up water bottle) do help and they are very good at helping people not pass on anything if they have already caught something.
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
Those wings!!! there for a min I thought we was talking bout the other "wings" I got my somewhere,thought maybe I was going to have to dust'em off..
Do you know that the moisture absorbing material turns into a impermeable membrane when exposed to moisture...or does that product grab the moisture and still maintain a matrix that allows airflow?
Do they all use the same absorbent product?
Do all of those products perform exactly the same?
I don't know these answers either, but I think there are some physical properties of the materials used that aren't being considered.
Tristan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I worried that this would be the case, weeks ago. However, I sincerely hoped I was wrong. I would have very much liked, being wrong...
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
This would up the ante quite a bit in fact.....if true it would be KARMA like ...... lol
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
Yeah it makes me want to rub my whole head ..... stop saying that!!!
Trivium Pursuit
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Here's the ultimate difference between this and the flu. The flu isn't killing the doctors who are treating the patients with flu.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
Okay one source.... do we have two???
Trivium Pursuit
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Exactly, I didn't go into that scarier part of the "Maths equation".
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
No it is doesn't normally.... which brings us back to the original question.... why in the world would China do what it did for a "simple" outbreak of the flu.....
Calling this a "flu" is a disservice to all involved.... it may be flu like, but it is more than just the flu.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
I don't know what is worse, shoveling or using a hose to wash it out of something. I always seem to get the crap in my mouth when using water.... the other, when shoveling, I usually trip at some point and fall in it.....
Either way, shoveling / power washing shit sucks!!
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
Your are correct..... MATHS is HARD!!!
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
Someone is rather optimistic are they???
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
That was so good he had to say it twice!!
mawmaw
Veteran Member
Could that be done with a fan in a window of a room (could use air conditioning filters to outside) with towels to block drawing air from outside room ???
OK, I have to ask. Did you receive an education in an English school, Trivium? Math is American. Maths seems to be British. This has been my personal experience since I took Math here in the US and Maths in England.
Wow, it's taken me all morning to catch up just on this thread. Thanks, everyone!
Wow, it's taken me all morning to catch up just on this thread. Thanks, everyone!
bw
Fringe Ranger
Not much, but thanks.
naegling62
Veteran Member
I think this information is from Professor Frances Boyle. The article is over at Infowars.
The problem with a dependent evacuation, besides screening/quarantine is that Lititle Kim up in Pyongyang might start to get jumpy.
Mark D
Now running for Emperor.
The crew at ARFCOM ran the "Best Case" numbers yesterday; the "we do everything right" numbers... In that scenario CONUS still sees about 200,000 deaths from Kung Flu.
naegling62
Veteran Member
Anniston city leaders blindsided by plan to use local FEMA facility as part of Coronavirus quarantine
The FEMA Center in Anniston will be used to quarantine some passengers from the Diamond Princess.
www.wbrc.com
ANNISTON, Ala. (WBRC) - The Department of Health and Human Services announced on Saturday that the FEMA Center in Anniston will be used to quarantine some passengers from the Diamond Princess.
Passengers who tested positive, but do not have symptoms, will be quarantined at the FEMA Center for Domestic Preparedness in Anniston, Alabama. If an evacuee becomes seriously ill, they will be transported to predetermined hospital.
Passengers will be kept in a separate area than the training facility.
Here is the full statement:
HHS is taking precautions to protect the health of all Americans from Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19). To that end, HHS and FEMA agreed to use a federal facility, the FEMA Center for Domestic Preparedness in Anniston, Alabama, as a place for some of the American passengers from the Diamond Princess to stay. These are passengers whom the federal government evacuated back to the U.S. from the Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan.
The passengers who will stay at the Center tested positive for COVID-19, although at this time they either do not have symptoms or have mild flu-like symptoms. Any of the evacuees who become seriously ill will be transported to pre-identified hospitals for medical care. Under the HHS-FEMA agreement, the Center for Domestic Preparedness will provide the housing, and HHS will provide basic medical care and all other support services for these returning passengers. Passengers will stay in a separate area from the Center’s training participants and will remain at the Center until they are medically cleared.
The Center has unique facilities and routinely offers week-long, hands-on training for large groups of professionals from federal, state and local emergency management agencies, hospitals, public health agencies, and law enforcement agencies on disaster response.