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Texican

Texican

Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
northern watch said:
Eric Feigl-Ding‏ @DrEricDing 6m6 minutes ago

Eric Feigl-Ding Retweeted STAT

Let’s pause the sensationalism for a moment. This is a good balanced article by @HelenBranswell on containment in the US. It doesn’t haven’t to be a runaway epidemic in the US. We just need to slow down the progression until main countermeasures ready (vaccine in 1 yr). #COVID19
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So America and the world will suffer thru this pandemic for at least a year if not longer being probable before a cure is found with millions or is it tens of millions if not hundreds of millions dead and hundreds of millions permanently harmed....

Are you prepared????

Texican....
 
pops88

pops88

Girls with Guns Member
A word from Charlie Shamp. He has a pretty good track record. YMMV:

As I was traveling by flight to Asia to minister I had a powerful dream where I was taken into a cloud. As I stood there beholding the cloud out came Kenneth Hagin sitting in a chariot. As I looked at his face it seemed to glow with the very glory of God. He was very anxious to speak with me about something as though he had a word for me.

Suddenly he spoke, “There seems to be an evil disease, yes they say it is cleaving fast to many in the earth and even now there lieth some that shall rise up no more. A spirit of fear has gripped many as they know not what is to come and the future looks dark for some. They have said, This bruise is incurable and the wound is to grievous to cure. There is none to plead the cause that there may be binding up of this sickness in the earth. For there is no healing medicine to stop this terrible disease.

As for you son, fear has not gripped your heart, but faith has compelled you to walk into a greater light, yes a greater glory to preach the gospel. For God has not given you the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. Bitterness has not been able to enter your heart even in the midst of things that you have seen that caused your heart such pain in this past season. You have kept your heart from evil so that only a pure stream would flow from it.

So now I tell you a mystery; He is rose of Sharon, yes he is the lily of the valleys. As the lily among thorns, so is his love among the daughters. As the apple tree among the trees of the wood so is he beloved among the sons. There are others like you that will come to sit down under his shadow and with great delight they will eat the fruit of righteousness for it is sweet to taste. He will bring them to the banqueting house and his banner over them will be seen by all as love. Oh how great is this love; as the Rose is crushed to retrieve a fine oil so to the crushing of Christ on the cross brought forth the finest oil to cure every sickness and disease.

So don’t let your heart be troubled about this sickness that has taken so many. Does the Word not say, And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing. Does his word not say, Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

For those that serve him the cure is found in the book of James, Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

For those that do not believe there will come a medical cure. Yes, I tell you that a cure for this dreaded curse is even now in the earth and shall soon be found. It shall be discovered before the rising of the summer sun, yes the cure will come. For those who fear his name shall the Son of righteousness arise with healing in his wings. Behold, he will bring health and cure and he will cure them and will reveal to them the abundance of peace and truth. For he will restore health to them and will heal them of the wounds. Even now the spirit of wisdom and revelation is at work revealing the cure. Think it not by chance that it will come, but recognize that intercession has gone up so that the revelation could come down and the answer was found.” I woke up on the plane as we were about to land in Japan.
-Prophet Charlie Shamp

(edited to add paragraphs and bold relevant info)
 
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desertvet2

Veteran Member
Your alphabet friend was telling you to grow your own food...NOW!

WHICH IS THE SAME THING I'm telling you.

And..protect what/who you love.

Get all of the books you can, or digital files and ALL of the means of replicating and or reading them as you can. Solar chargers, memory sticks, tools, seeds, ...etc even if you die..someone might come along and take the Info, and keep our species going.

No money? No fricking problem...lots of free Info on the web.

Do what you can...
The rest is up to GOD.. or fate.
 
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desertvet2

Veteran Member
pops88 said:
A word from Charlie Shamp. He has a pretty good track record. YMMV:

As I was traveling by flight to Asia to minister I had a powerful dream where I was taken into a cloud. As I stood there beholding the cloud out came Kenneth Hagin sitting in a chariot. As I looked at his face it seemed to glow with the very glory of God. He was very anxious to speak with me about something as though he had a word for me. Suddenly he spoke, “There seems to be an evil disease, yes they say it is cleaving fast to many in the earth and even now there lieth some that shall rise up no more. A spirit of fear has gripped many as they know not what is to come and the future looks dark for some. They have said, This bruise is incurable and the wound is to grievous to cure. There is none to plead the cause that there may be binding up of this sickness in the earth. For there is no healing medicine to stop this terrible disease. As for you son, fear has not gripped your heart, but faith has compelled you to walk into a greater light, yes a greater glory to preach the gospel. For God has not given you the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. Bitterness has not been able to enter your heart even in the midst of things that you have seen that caused your heart such pain in this past season. You have kept your heart from evil so that only a pure stream would flow from it. So now I tell you a mystery; He is rose of Sharon, yes he is the lily of the valleys. As the lily among thorns, so is his love among the daughters. As the apple tree among the trees of the wood so is he beloved among the sons. There are others like you that will come to sit down under his shadow and with great delight they will eat the fruit of righteousness for it is sweet to taste. He will bring them to the banqueting house and his banner over them will be seen by all as love. Oh how great is this love; as the Rose is crushed to retrieve a fine oil so to the crushing of Christ on the cross brought forth the finest oil to cure every sickness and disease. So don’t let your heart be troubled about this sickness that has taken so many. Does the Word not say, And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing. Does his word not say, Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. For those that serve him the cure is found in the book of James, Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. For those that do not believe there will come a medical cure. Yes, I tell you that a cure for this dreaded curse is even now in the earth and shall soon be found. It shall be discovered before the rising of the summer sun, yes the cure will come. For those who fear his name shall the Son of righteousness arise with healing in his wings. Behold, he will bring health and cure and he will cure them and will reveal to them the abundance of peace and truth. For he will restore health to them and will heal them of the wounds. Even now the spirit of wisdom and revelation is at work revealing the cure. Think it not by chance that it will come, but recognize that intercession has gone up so that the revelation could come down and the answer was found.” I woke up on the plane as we were about to land in Japan.
-Prophet Charlie Shamp
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Paragraphs...please...

Good info..just blocked together too much for me...

Love and respect.
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
An excerpt from an article out yesterday that explains the change in diagnosing criteria for coronavirus, in case others missed it too:

Coronavirus Live Updates: Hot Zone Infections Skyrocket



The number of people confirmed to have the coronavirus in Hubei Province, the center of the outbreak, skyrocketed by 14,840 cases to 48,206, the government said on Thursday, setting a new daily record, after the authorities changed the diagnostic criteria for counting new cases.

The number of deaths in the province on Wednesday jumped by 242 to a total of 1,310, more than doubling the previous daily record of 103 set on Monday.


The sudden uptick is a result of the government including cases diagnosed in clinical settings, including with the use of CT scans, along with those confirmed with specialized testing kits.

Health experts said the change in reporting is meant to provide a more accurate view of the transmissibility of the virus. The new criteria is intended to give doctors broader discretion to diagnose patients, and more crucially, isolate patients to quickly treat them.

Previously, infections were confirmed only with a positive result from a nucleic acid test. But a government expert said the tests were only about 30 to 40 percent accurate. There is also a shortage of testing kits in the provinces and the turnaround time for the results of these tests takes at least two days.
Because hospitals were overstretched and lacked testing kits, many infected patients were told to go home rather than be isolated and undergo treatment.

The sudden change in the accounting has caused epidemiologists to warn that the true picture of the epidemic is muddled. Accurately tracking cases tells experts the number, location and speed at which new infections are occurring.
Many patients, displaying symptoms of the coronavirus, have long complained that they have had to wait days, and even weeks, to be tested and receive treatment. Others, including the recently deceased whistleblower Dr. Li Wenliang, said they had to be tested four or five times before the tests showed a positive result.

The huge jump in new cases puts extra pressure on the government to treat thousands of patients, many of whom are in mass quarantine centers or in isolation facilities.
Shifting numbers
Cases seemed to be leveling off. Not anymore.


posted for fair use
www.nytimes.com

Coronavirus Live Updates: Communist Official Is Ousted as Hot Zone Infections Skyrocket

The number of deaths in Hubei Province more than doubled the prior daily record, while the number of new cases soared by 14,840 to a total of 48,206 cases.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
May have some relevance here, too

February 13, 2020 / 12:05 AM / Updated 37 minutes ago
Chinese public dial in for support as coronavirus takes mental toll

David Kirton
5 Min Read


SHENZHEN, China (Reuters) - Hundreds of 24-hour mental health support telephone hotlines have sprung up in China in recent weeks as millions of people fret about catching the coronavirus - and try to avoid infection by staying at home.

Medical professionals welcomed the launch of several official services in a country where mental health remains a relatively taboo subject, but cautioned that unofficial talk lines could do more harm than good.
“There are a lot of hotlines out there staffed by a lot of volunteers but it just doesn’t make sense because there’s not many that can be well-trained,” said Er Jing, a Seattle-based volunteer for one of the hotlines, who is originally from China’s Southern Guangdong province.
“It can be really traumatizing to ask for support but not get the right responses.”
A survey by the Chinese Psychology Society published by state media last week found that of 18,000 people tested for anxiety related to the coronavirus outbreak, 42.6% registered a positive response. Of 5,000 people evaluated for post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), 21.5% had obvious symptoms.
The hashtag #howtodealwithfeelingveryanxiousathome has been trending on social media platform Weibo, with more than 170 million views, as misinformation about the spread of the disease and travel bans feed public worries.

HOTLINES OVERWHELMED
The hotlines are part of the government’s “first level response” for dealing with the psychological impact of major health emergencies, a strategy that was first deployed following the 2008 Sichuan earthquake, a disaster in which 87,150 people were killed or listed as missing.
The National Health Commission said more than 300 hotlines had launched across the country to provide mental health advice related to coronavirus, with support from university psychology departments, counseling services and NGOs.
They have been inundated by callers in a country which has just 2.2 psychiatrists available for every 100,000 people, according to WHO data, five times fewer than in the United States.
A national hotline run by Beijing Normal University was overwhelmed when it went live at the end of January, said Cheng Qi, a Shanghai-based psychologist.
While the number of calls has dropped as other lines opens, the content has become more challenging, Cheng said, noting one caller with chronic depression who had reported suicidal thoughts triggered by the barrage of bad news.
“It’s not the virus [that caused it], but the virus is stimulating it,” she said.
Xu Wang, a psychotherapist at Tsinghua University, which is working with the official Beijing city hotline, said a major challenge was working out which callers showed real symptoms of the virus and which were instead suffering from anxiety.

“Callers often have somatic issues, and might say, ‘I can’t eat well, can’t sleep well, and I want to know if it’s a virus infection,’” he said.
A volunteer group of more than 400 therapists called ‘Yong Xin Kang Du’, which roughly translates to ‘Use Heart to Fight the Virus’, focuses on helping overworked medical staff in Wuhan, the epicenter of the virus.
“They leave messages saying they’re exhausted, that they’re scared,” Er said. “The doctors don’t know if they’re going to get infected or if their co-workers or going to get infected, and they don’t know how bad it’s spreading.”

LEARNING CURVE
Medical researchers from Peking University included telephone and internet counseling for healthcare staff, patients, and the public among six key strategies for coping with mental stress over the coronavirus outbreak.
“We believe that including mental health care in the national public health emergency system will empower China and the world during the campaign to contain and eradicate
2019-nCoV,” the researchers said in a paper published in The Lancet medical journal last week.
The government recently issued guidance for the hotlines, saying they should be free, confidential, staffed by volunteers with relevant professional backgrounds and supervised by experienced by experts.

Still, concerns remain about enforcement.
“There are many individually initiated helplines and it’s difficult to gain consistent support and supervision,” said Sami Wong, a Beijing-based psychotherapist.
Tsinghua University’s Xu said the very nature of the hotlines added to the challenges, preventing volunteers from gaining much-needed face-to-face experience with people suffering mental health issues.
Wong worried that untrained volunteers could easily put their foot in their mouth. A seemingly innocuous “I can understand how you feel” can cause vulnerable people to clam up, she said: “PTSD training is not something you can learn overnight.”
Reporting by David Kirton; editing by Jane Wardell
Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

posted for fair use
www.reuters.com

Chinese public dial in for support as coronavirus takes mental toll

Hundreds of 24-hour mental health support telephone hotlines have sprung up in China in recent weeks as millions of people fret about catching the coronavirus - and try to avoid infection by staying at home.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
 
Shadow

Shadow

Swift, Silent,...Sleepy
yellowlabz said:
Calder was able to catch a flight to Seoul, South Korea, and then to San Francisco, Washington D.C., and finally Pittsburgh.

She is not sick but is being quarantined out of precaution and protocol. Calder says they had no interaction with people other than security and building personnel.

She says one myth she would like to clear up is food shortages. She said grocery stores around her son all had plenty of food.
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I thought everyone who had recently been in China was supposed to arrive in 6 (11?) designated airports!

It is not working!

Shadow
 
bev

bev

Has No Life - Lives on TB
OldArcher said:
JIT HAS failed. Th' tail ain't jest reached where the head is... Th' body's still a wigglin,' an' "experts" think it's still alive...

OA
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Old Archer, I’m quite fond of you and usually like your posts, but all of a sudden, you’re talking like ... well, you know. I don’t know why - maybe it was mentioned a couple of hundred pages ago - you feel the need to do this. I just wanted to kindly let you know that it takes MUCH longer to read and comprehend your posts, so KNOCK IT OFF!

There may or may not be another member or three that are doing the same thing. This request goes for them as well.

Love ya, OA!
 
Ragnarok

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
pinkelsteinsmom said:
I don't understand why it goes to GLP, this is the link included in the post? It opens for me.

www.militarytimes.com

US military prepping for coronavirus pandemic

U.S. Northern Command is bracing for an outbreak of the new coronavirus on U.S. soil, if it should occur.
www.militarytimes.com www.militarytimes.com
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Heliobas Disciple said:
here are direct links, you have to go a few steps more to find them but I'll spare you;) :

www.militarytimes.com

US military prepping for coronavirus pandemic

U.S. Northern Command is bracing for an outbreak of the new coronavirus on U.S. soil, if it should occur.
www.militarytimes.com www.militarytimes.com

ca.news.yahoo.com

Coronavirus’ ‘case-fatality rate’ could range from 1% up to 18%

The death toll reached 908 on Monday, up from 636 the previous Friday.
ca.news.yahoo.com ca.news.yahoo.com
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Thanks!

I was able to find the one from Military Times but the Yahoo link I could not locate...

Much appreciated!
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
CDC director: More person-to-person coronavirus infections in U.S. likely, but containment still possible



By Helen Branswell @HelenBranswell
February 12, 2020



Health officials believe there is still opportunity to prevent widespread transmission of the coronavirus in the United States, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Wednesday, even as he warned that more human-to-human transmission here is likely.


“We’re still going to see new cases. We’re probably going to see human-to-human transmission within the United States,” Dr. Robert Redfield said in an interview with STAT.


He added that “at some point in time it is highly probable that we’ll have to transition to mitigation” as a public health strategy, using “social distancing measures” — for example, closure of certain public facilities — and other techniques to try to limit the number of people who become infected.


“We’re not going to be able to seal this virus from coming into this country,” Redfield said. But, he added, “we do gain time by prolonging the containment phase as long as we can, provided that we still believe that’s a useful public health effort.


“That’s where we are right now in the United States.”

To date the U.S. has diagnosed 14 cases of the new infection. Of those, 12 were travelers who were infected in China before traveling home.


If the United States begins to see instances in several parts of the country in which a single case ignites four “generations” of human-to-human infection, Redfield said — meaning a person who contracted the virus infects a person, who infects another person, who then infects another person — then the CDC is likely to conclude containment of the virus has failed.


“Once we get greater than three — so four or more is our view — [generations of] human-to-human transmission in the community … and we see that in multiple areas of the country that are not contiguous, then basically the value of all of the containment strategies that we’ve done now then really become not effective,” he said. “That’s when we’re in full mitigation.”


The CDC director’s remarks came as a group of experts that advises the World Health Organization’s health emergencies program recommended that the world stay the current course of trying to halt spread of the new virus to stop it from becoming a human pathogen.


That strategy, “containment for elimination,” was successful during the 2002-2003 SARS outbreak — though this epidemic is already nearly six times larger than SARS. During the SARS outbreak, roughly 8,000 people were infected and nearly 800 died.


Redfield said that China, which has reported more than 45,000 cases to date, has not been able to contain the virus, despite massively restricting internal travel to try to stop it from spreading from Hubei province. The epicenter of the outbreak has been the city of Wuhan, located in Hubei.


“Those countries that are still largely seeing cases that are really, like us, directly from Hubei province, there’s reason to still stay in the containment mode rather than turning that off and going right to mitigation. Because once you’re into mitigation, you will probably start to see more cases that may have been able to be contained,” Redfield said.


www.statnews.com

CDC director: More person-to-person coronavirus infections in U.S. likely, but containment still possible

In an interview, the CDC director said person-to-person transmission of the coronavirus is likely to occur in the United States, but containment still possible.
www.statnews.com www.statnews.com
 
marsh

marsh

On TB every waking moment
bev said:
Old Archer, I’m quite fond of you and usually like your posts, but all of a sudden, you’re talking like ... well, you know. I don’t know why - maybe it was mentioned a couple of hundred pages ago - you feel the need to do this. I just wanted to kindly let you know that it takes MUCH longer to read and comprehend your posts, so KNOCK IT OFF!

There may or may not be another member or three that are doing the same thing. This request goes for them as well.

Love ya, OA!
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I believe he explained that it was due to his stroke and he couldn't help it.
 
Ragnarok

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Heliobas Disciple said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Second US evacuee from China tests positive for coronavirus

The latest patient, who was aboard a flight from the city of Wuhan that arrived at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar in Southern California last week, is now in isolation at a hospital in San Diego.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
(fair use applies)

Coronavirus test may be FLAWED: Kits shipped all over the US may come back 'inconclusive' CDC reveal after the agency mistakenly said the 13th American patient was negative
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Is the kit flawed or does the infected person just not trigger a positive?
 
pops88

pops88

Girls with Guns Member
desertvet2 said:
Paragraphs...please...

Good info..just blocked together too much for me...

Love and respect.
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Sorry, I just copied and pasted. I'll see what I can do with it. I appreciated the difficulty as I had an eye stroke last April so reading is a struggle for me. Most of the long posts here I don't even try to read anymore- I skim a little and move on or it takes way to much time. And yes, I was sharing my expertise with my (retired) alphabet friend and in turn he was pointing out what it could mean. I'm not too dense... most of the time.
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
Ragnarok said:
Is the kit flawed or does the infected person just not trigger a positive?
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both situations have occurred, actually...as to your earlier comment, that the world as we know it may never be the same--- recall that the Lord is more than able to turn water into wine, defeat into victory, and whatever fluster cuck barreling down upon us into a blessing for our nation....it's what he does : ) right? Maybe it's our turn for tears, and things to finally cost enough- and the younger generations to have the adversity that hones them as earlier generations were?
 
Heliobas Disciple

Heliobas Disciple

TB Fanatic
northern watch said:
Eric Feigl-Ding‏ @DrEricDing 6 minutes ago Eric Feigl-Ding Retweeted STAT
Let’s pause the sensationalism for a moment. This is a good balanced article by @HelenBranswell on containment in the US. It doesn’t haven’t to be a runaway epidemic in the US. We just need to slow down the progression until main countermeasures ready (vaccine in 1 yr). #COVID19
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This is what I've been hearing on most of the videos of the officials who are answering questions about the gov't response. They are aware of the potentials, and they are aware they need better numbers to make calculations (but they can't get into China so it's frustrating their efforts). What they are mostly trying to do now is SLOW IT DOWN to give themselves as much time as possible to get ready in hopes that 1)either the warm weather will help slow it down - although they do know it's warm in Wuhan and hot in Singapore and that's not slowing it down and 2) they can have a vaccine ready if they hold it off long enough. So they are doing what they can to contain it as long as possible. Not stop it, they know they can't stop it - they just want to see if they can slow it down from infecting large groups.

HD
 
Heliobas Disciple

Heliobas Disciple

TB Fanatic
This is interesting. The Catholic diocese in Hong Kong is cancelling public Sunday and weeday mass including Ash Wed liturgy. I don't think I've ever seen something like this ever happening before.

His Eminence John Cardinal Tong Apostolic Administrator, Catholic Diocese of Hong Kong
1 min 54 sec

Transcript:

Temporary Suspension of Public Masses on Sundays and Weekdays and Cancellation of the Liturgy of Ash Wednesday

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ,

Peace be with you! The next two weeks will be a crucial time to suppress the epidemic. To avoid gatherings, the Diocese has decided to suspend all the public Masses on Sundays and weekdays for two weeks, including the Liturgy of Ash Wednesday, from the fifteenth to the twenty-eighth of February.

Some Church members may be disappointed. However, I hope that everyone can understand this is not an easy decision.

At this difficult time, everyone should not panic. We must deepen our trust in God and implement our Christian love for our neighbors and all people. In addition to fulfilling our Mass obligation by participating in the Mass online, receiving Holy Communion spiritually, meditating on the Scriptures, or saying the Rosary, at home we can care more for the health of our family, especially the elderly and the children. In the community, we can help one another, share anti-epidemic materials, live the Gospel virtues of faith, hope and love, and pray for each other.

Dear brothers and sisters: Through the intercession of Our Blessed Mother Mary, may the Lord listen to our prayers that the epidemic will soon disappear, and grant us good health and well-being! God bless you!

+ John Cardinal Tong
Apostolic Administrator of Hong Kong
13th February, 2020

Catholic Diocese of Hong Kong

catholic.org.hk catholic.org.hk
 
Ragnarok

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Border Collie Dad said:
Interesting.

Only 1 death outside China.

What are the chances we are being bullspitted and using the fear to grab more control?

That is what Jon Rappaport has been saying from the beginning.
nomorefakenews.com
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Tin Foil Alert...

Wuhan was a center of recent political unrest.

Couple that with what has been happening in Hong Kong.

Now, with the release of this virus, I have read that the leaders of/ and those who participated in protests against the government have ALL been rounded up and placed in "quarantine" ...

Considering Stalin and Mao killed millions of their citizens to stay in power...

I am beginning to wonder if this was not an orchestrated release to crush the growing dissent of Xi by Hong Kong and within his own country?

That would also explain why he keeps refusing aid from U.S. Experts...
 
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jazzy

jazzy

Advocate Discernment
Ragnarok

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
bev said:
Old Archer, I’m quite fond of you and usually like your posts, but all of a sudden, you’re talking like ... well, you know. I don’t know why - maybe it was mentioned a couple of hundred pages ago - you feel the need to do this. I just wanted to kindly let you know that it takes MUCH longer to read and comprehend your posts, so KNOCK IT OFF!

There may or may not be another member or three that are doing the same thing. This request goes for them as well.

Love ya, OA!
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I agree...

I don't understand it.

You are typing in a way that is predetermined and not "on accident" or because of any "condition"...

The way you are replying takes great effort and concentration. It is CLEARLY not because of some medical condition...

I don't know why you have decide to change your style of posting but, it sucks!

And, I find myself skipping over your posts, now, when I used to read them with great interest!

STOP IT!!!
 
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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Heliobas Disciple said:
This is interesting. The Catholic diocese in Hong Kong is cancelling public Sunday and weeday mass including Ash Wed liturgy. I don't think I've ever seen something like this ever happening before.

His Eminence John Cardinal Tong Apostolic Administrator, Catholic Diocese of Hong Kong
1 min 54 sec

Transcript:

Temporary Suspension of Public Masses on Sundays and Weekdays and Cancellation of the Liturgy of Ash Wednesday

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ,

Peace be with you! The next two weeks will be a crucial time to suppress the epidemic. To avoid gatherings, the Diocese has decided to suspend all the public Masses on Sundays and weekdays for two weeks, including the Liturgy of Ash Wednesday, from the fifteenth to the twenty-eighth of February.

Some Church members may be disappointed. However, I hope that everyone can understand this is not an easy decision.

At this difficult time, everyone should not panic. We must deepen our trust in God and implement our Christian love for our neighbors and all people. In addition to fulfilling our Mass obligation by participating in the Mass online, receiving Holy Communion spiritually, meditating on the Scriptures, or saying the Rosary, at home we can care more for the health of our family, especially the elderly and the children. In the community, we can help one another, share anti-epidemic materials, live the Gospel virtues of faith, hope and love, and pray for each other.

Dear brothers and sisters: Through the intercession of Our Blessed Mother Mary, may the Lord listen to our prayers that the epidemic will soon disappear, and grant us good health and well-being! God bless you!

+ John Cardinal Tong
Apostolic Administrator of Hong Kong
13th February, 2020

Catholic Diocese of Hong Kong

catholic.org.hk catholic.org.hk
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1917..18..19 .Spanish Flu.
 
jward

jward

passin' thru


Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/#


The table below shows confirmed cases of coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in China and other countries. To see a distribution map and a timeline, scroll down. There are currently 60,374 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,367 fatalities.

Last update: 13 February 2020 at 3:20 a.m. ET
MAINLAND CHINACasesDeathsNotesLinks
Hubei province
(including Wuhan)		48,2061,3105,647 serious, 1,437 criticalSource
Other regions11,59855946 serious/critical
TOTAL59,8041,3658,030 serious
5,911 recovered
13,435 suspected
REGIONSCasesDeathsNotesLinks
Hong Kong5014 critical, 2 serious, 1 recoveredSource
Taiwan1801 recoveredSource
Macau1001 recoveredSource
TOTAL7816 serious
INTERNATIONALCasesDeathsNotesLinks
Japan247*04 serious, 4 recoveredSource
Singapore5008 critical, 15 recoveredSource
Thailand3301 serious, 10 recoveredSource
South Korea2807 recoveredSource
Malaysia1803 recoveredSource
Australia1508 recoveredSource
Germany160Source
Vietnam1607 recoveredSource
United States1403 recoveredSource
France1101 serious, 2 recoveredSource
United Kingdom901 recoveredSource
Canada701 recoveredSource
UAE801 serious, 1 recovered Source
Philippines312 recoveredSource
India30Source
Italy302 seriousSource
Russia202 recoveredSource
Spain20Source
Nepal101 recoveredSource
Cambodia101 recoveredSource
Sri Lanka101 recoveredSource
Finland101 recoveredSource
Sweden10Source
Belgium10Source
TOTAL491117 serious/critical
Notes
  • Hubei province, China: The numbers include clinically-diagnosed cases, which means they were not confirmed by laboratory testing.
  • Japan: The total includes 4 asymptomatic cases, which are not included in the government’s official count.
  • Japan: The total includes 218 people from the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship. They are not included in the government’s official count.
  • North Korea: Unconfirmed reports about 1, 5, or 7 cases in North Korea cannot be verified. If cases are confirmed by the North Korean government, they will be added to this list.
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jward

jward

passin' thru
(part two)
ETA: conus cases have risen to 14, and continue to show 3 recoveries.
This report was inexplicably, once again, hours late out of China. Scuttlebutt is that one province released real #s, and everyone else was scrambling to figure out how to deal with that lapse. :: shruggin :: Those wheels sure seem to be falling.
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Timeline (GMT)
13 February

  • 08:15: China’s National Health Commission reports 312 new cases and 12 new deaths on the mainland, excluding Hubei province.
  • 05:15: 1 new case in Vietnam. (Source)
  • 03:10: 44 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 218. (Source)
  • 00:25: 1 new case in California, United States. (Source)
12 February

  • 23:48: 14,840 new cases, including clinically diagnosed cases, and 242 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 18:53: 1 new case in the United Kingdom. (Source)
  • 08:24: 1 new case in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 07:00: 3 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
  • 02:53: 1 new case in Japan. It is one of the quarantine officers who was working on board the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama. This case is not included in the total for the ship’s passengers and crew. (Source)
  • 02:14: China’s National Health Commission reports 377 new cases and 3 new deaths across the mainland, excluding Hubei province. The deaths were in Henan province, Hunan province, and Chongqing. (Source)
11 February

  • 23:55: 39 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 174. (Source)
  • 22:17: 1,638 new cases and 94 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 21:01: 1 new case in Thailand. (Source)
  • 19:25: 2 new cases in Germany. (Source)
  • 16:10: 7 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 14:59: 2 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
  • 06:57: 2 new cases in Japan. (Source)
  • 02:37: 1 new case in Vietnam. (Source)
  • 01:14: 1 new case in California, United States. (Source)
  • 01:00: 1 new case in South Korea. (Source)
  • 00:13: China’s National Health Commission reports 370 new cases and 5 new deaths on the mainland. Of the deaths, one each in: Beijing, Tianjin, Heilongjiang province, Anhui province, and Henan province. (Source)
10 February

  • 22:10: 2,097 new cases and 103 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 17:56: 1 new case in the United Arab Emirates. (Source)
  • 16:00: 4 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 14:20: 2 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 12:30: 2 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
  • 09:46: 4 new cases in the United Kingdom. (Source)
  • 05:13: 65 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 135. (Source)
  • 01:01: 1 new case in Malaysia. (Source)
9 February

  • 23:53: China’s National Health Commission reports 419 new cases and 6 new deaths. Their locations have not yet been disclosed, except for the fatalities: 2 in Anhui province and 1 each in Anhui, Heilongjiang, Jiangxi, Hainan, and Gansu provinces. (Source)
  • 22:15: 2,531 new cases and 91 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 19:01: 3 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
  • 19:00: 7 new cases in Hong Kong. The other new cases mentioned in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
  • 11:56: 3 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 11:40: 1 new case in the United Kingdom. (Source)
  • 09:28: 1 new case in Spain. (Source)
  • 08:06: 1 new case in Malaysia. (Source)
  • 08:02: 2 new cases in South Korea. (Source)
  • 07:45: 9 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
  • 07:44: 1 new case om Yunnan province, China. (Source)
  • 07:18: 6 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 70. (Source)
  • 06:26: 1 new case in Taiwan. (Source)
  • 06:19: 1 new case in Vietnam. (Source)
  • 05:00: 2 new cases in Tianjin, China. (Source)
  • 03:33: 1 new case in Shanghai. (Source)
  • 03:25: 11 new cases in Beijing. (Source)
  • 03:19: 11 new cases in Fujian province, China. (Source)
  • 03:06: 1 new case in Japan. (Source)
  • 02:07: 13 new cases in Shaanxi province, China. (Source)
  • 02:04: 2 new cases in Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
  • 01:55: 19 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
  • 01:26: 25 new cases in Guangdong province, China. The other cases mentioned in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
  • 01:25: 4 new cases in Hainan province, China. The other case mentioned in the press release was previously reported. (Source)
  • 01:22: 42 new cases in Jiangxi province, China. (Source)
  • 01:07: 3 new cases in Xinjiang Region, China. (Source)
  • 01:05: 46 new cases and 1 new death in Anhui province, China. The death was previously announced by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 01:02: 1 new case in South Korea. (Source)
  • 01:00: 27 new cases in Zhejiang province, China. (Source)
  • 00:45: 7 new cases in Guizhou province, China. (Source)
  • 00:44: 29 new cases in Jiangsu province, China. (Source)
  • 00:36: 35 new cases in Hunan province, China. (Source)
  • 00:41: 53 new cases and 2 new deaths in Henan province, China. One previous case was discarded. The deaths were previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 00:33: 23 new cases in Sichuan province, China. (Source)
  • 00:25: 26 new cases and 1 new death in Heilongjiang province, China. One previous case was discarded and 13 asymptomatic cases were deducted from the government’s official count. Those 13, however, are still included in our total. The death was previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 00:20: 12 new cases and 1 new death in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, China. The death was previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 00:18: 9 new cases in Jilin province, China. (Source)
  • 00:17: 2 new cases in Yunnan province, China. (Source)
  • 00:16: 11 new cases and 1 new death in Hebei province, China. The death was previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 00:15: China’s National Health Commission reports 441 new cases and 7 new deaths across the mainland. Their locations have not yet been disclosed, except for the fatalities: 2 in Henan province, 1 in Hebei province, 1 in Heilongjiang province, 1 in Anhui province, 1 in Shandong province, and 1 in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region. (Source)
8 February

  • 23:51: 6 new cases in Shanghai. (Source)
  • 23:08: 18 new cases in Chongqing, China. (Source)
  • 22:10: 2,147 new cases and 81 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 19:56: 12 new cases in Shanxi province, China. One previous case was discarded. (Source)
  • 19:40: 7 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
  • 14:50: 8 new cases in Gansu province, China. (Source)
  • 10:50: 1 new death in Hunan province, China. (Source)
  • 10:46: 1 new case in Malaysia. (Source)
  • 09:36: 5 new cases in France. (Source)
  • 08:05: 20 new cases in Guangdong province, China. (Source)
  • 07:53: 2 new cases in Chongqing, China. (Source)
  • 07:09: 9 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
  • 06:51: 4 new cases in Liaoning province, China. (Source)
  • 05:59: 5 new cases in Shanghai. (Source)
  • 05:58: 7 new cases in Thailand. (Source)
  • 03:28: 1 new case in Taiwan. (Source)
  • 03:27: 1 new death in Gansu province, China. This death was previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 03:26: 3 new cases in Xinjiang Region, China. (Source)
  • 03:14: 15 new cases in Fujian province, China. (Source)
  • 03:08: 2 new cases in Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
  • 03:07: 18 new cases and 1 new death in Beijing. The death was earlier reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 03:01: 7 new cases in Tianjin, China. (Source)
  • 02:22: 11 new cases in Shaanxi province, China. (Source)
  • 02:10: 2 new cases in Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
  • 02:03: 9 new cases in Hainan province, China. (Source)
  • 02:00: 41 new cases in Guangdong province, China. The other cases mentioned in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
  • 01:43: 8 new cases in Guizhou province, China. (Source)
  • 01:05: 37 new cases in Jiangxi province, China. (Source)
  • 01:03: 42 new cases in Zhejiang province, China. (Source)
  • 01:00: 67 new cases and 1 new death in Henan province, China. The fatality was earlier reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 00:58: 18 new cases and 2 new deaths in Heilongjiang province, China. The number of new cases reported here is lower than the number mentioned in the press release, because the total did not match with the previous update. The fatalities in this update were earlier reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
  • 00:54: 68 new cases in Anhui province, China. (Source)
  • 00:53: 31 new cases in Hunan province, China. (Source)
  • 00:46: 31 new cases in Jiangsu province, China. (Source)
  • 00:45: 19 new cases in Sichuan province, China. (Source)
  • 00:33: 21 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
  • 00:32: 3 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 64. (Source)
  • 00:21: 4 new cases in Jilin province, China. (Source)
  • 00:20: 11 new cases in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
  • 00:19: 24 new cases in Hebei province, China. (Source)
  • 00:05: China’s National Health Commission reports 498 new cases of coronavirus and 5 new deaths. Their locations have not yet been disclosed, except for the fatalities: 2 in Heilongjiang province, 1 in Beijing, 1 in Henan province, and 1 in Gansu province. (Source)
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jward

jward

passin' thru
Ragnarok said:
Not buying it... He keeps putting in the appropriate punctuation to make his sentences make any kind of sense, which takes a lot of effort...

Ya kno' wha' I'mma say'in?
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Aww- isn't this a harsh enough time without us resorting to petty, bullying behavior toward fellow chatters? Momma's very tired & cranky, and bout ready to tell dad that you don't get any ice cream after all. And dad's crankier than I am and has a sore ankle he needs to wrap, :eek:
 
Ragnarok

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
jward said:
Aww- isn't this a harsh enough time without us resorting to petty, bullying behavior toward fellow chatters? Momma's very tired & cranky, and bout ready to tell dad that you don't get any ice cream after all. And dad's crankier than I am and has a sore ankle he needs to wrap, :eek:
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It's not petty...

To be able to break up words and entire sentences like this, with the correct punctuation and emphasis, cannot be attributed to a stroke. I might believe it more if he didn't place the apostrophes EXACTLY where they needed to be to make the phonetic understandable.

See the following:




- Thanks, marsh... Takin' yer advice. OA, out...

- Maybe that was it!!! Two strokes an' a seizure have scrambled ma brains a bit... That's wi' tongue in cheek, o' course... Thanks fer the remind, Troke! Greatly appreciated... Whys ah heard it, samples went ta th' military labs... 'Course, I'd be lots happier, if'n I knew one way or t'other... Not knowin' is drivin' me crackers... Again, thanks, Troke... Ta quote Dan Quayle, "A mind is a terrible thing ta waste..." Er, somethin' like that...

- Hell, th' way things look, there'll be more jobs than people!

- IF they have valid test kits, an' they don't continue ta jigger the numbers...

- JIT HAS failed. Th' tail ain't jest reached where the head is... Th' body's still a wigglin,' an' "experts" think it's still alive...




I don't know if he is trying to be the new Dobbin or a modern day Samuel Clemons but it is annoying and reduces all credibility he may have had. And, I used to hold Old Archer on a pedestal. It takes a concerted effort to post like that...
 
Hfcomms

Hfcomms

EN66iq
jward said:
CDC director: More person-to-person coronavirus infections in U.S. likely, but containment still possible



By Helen Branswell @HelenBranswell
February 12, 2020



Health officials believe there is still opportunity to prevent widespread transmission of the coronavirus in the United States, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Wednesday, even as he warned that more human-to-human transmission here is likely.


“We’re still going to see new cases. We’re probably going to see human-to-human transmission within the United States,” Dr. Robert Redfield said in an interview with STAT.


He added that “at some point in time it is highly probable that we’ll have to transition to mitigation” as a public health strategy, using “social distancing measures” — for example, closure of certain public facilities — and other techniques to try to limit the number of people who become infected.


“We’re not going to be able to seal this virus from coming into this country,” Redfield said. But, he added, “we do gain time by prolonging the containment phase as long as we can, provided that we still believe that’s a useful public health effort.


“That’s where we are right now in the United States.”

To date the U.S. has diagnosed 14 cases of the new infection. Of those, 12 were travelers who were infected in China before traveling home.


If the United States begins to see instances in several parts of the country in which a single case ignites four “generations” of human-to-human infection, Redfield said — meaning a person who contracted the virus infects a person, who infects another person, who then infects another person — then the CDC is likely to conclude containment of the virus has failed.


“Once we get greater than three — so four or more is our view — [generations of] human-to-human transmission in the community … and we see that in multiple areas of the country that are not contiguous, then basically the value of all of the containment strategies that we’ve done now then really become not effective,” he said. “That’s when we’re in full mitigation.”


The CDC director’s remarks came as a group of experts that advises the World Health Organization’s health emergencies program recommended that the world stay the current course of trying to halt spread of the new virus to stop it from becoming a human pathogen.


That strategy, “containment for elimination,” was successful during the 2002-2003 SARS outbreak — though this epidemic is already nearly six times larger than SARS. During the SARS outbreak, roughly 8,000 people were infected and nearly 800 died.


Redfield said that China, which has reported more than 45,000 cases to date, has not been able to contain the virus, despite massively restricting internal travel to try to stop it from spreading from Hubei province. The epicenter of the outbreak has been the city of Wuhan, located in Hubei.


“Those countries that are still largely seeing cases that are really, like us, directly from Hubei province, there’s reason to still stay in the containment mode rather than turning that off and going right to mitigation. Because once you’re into mitigation, you will probably start to see more cases that may have been able to be contained,” Redfield said.


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CDC director: More person-to-person coronavirus infections in U.S. likely, but containment still possible

In an interview, the CDC director said person-to-person transmission of the coronavirus is likely to occur in the United States, but containment still possible.
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Might want to read this one if you glossed over it. This is from the director of the CDC that is saying we can’t keep the virus out of the US and we‘ll try to contain it as long as we can. He said that we gain time with containment until we no longer think it’s useful. He mentions we will have to do social distancing measures. He is telegraphing what is coming and average Joe/Joesophine is not ready to see this in the U.S. Sounds resigned to the inevitable to me.
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
Hfcomms said:
Might want to read this one if you glossed over it. This is from the director of the CDC that is saying we can’t keep the virus out of the US and we‘ll try to contain it as long as we can. He said that we gain time with containment until we no longer think it’s useful. He mentions we will have to do social distancing measures. He is telegraphing what is coming and average Joe/Joesophine is not ready to see this in the U.S. Sounds resigned to the inevitable to me.
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Yeah, thats pretty much my take too. I hope we're all ready to help our small groups and organizations make those choices. I keep picturing all these kids at their basketball n wrestling and it's starting to weigh on je, but too soon imho to call a stopmto it.
 
M

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
Pinecone said:
We tend to lose young people regularly from undiagnosed heart/circulatory issues. Every year or so a kid who's passed his physical will collapse on the high school football field at practice and unfortunately die anyway. The young man may have had the coronavirus, or he may have had something else. We may never know for sure. For the sake of everyone else in England, I hope it's "something else."
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There was another unexplained in England yesterday

Horror as woman is found dead on the pavement at 3am - as police launch probe into 'unexplained sudden death'

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Horror as woman is found dead on the pavement at 3am

Nottinghamshire Police were called to Abbotsford Drive shortly after 2am today. The unnamed woman was treated by paramedics at the scene but was pronounced dead shortly after 3am.
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