CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

Chance

Veteran Member
Had read that Wuhan was telling people to 'get rid of' of their pets or THEY would cull them. Sounds like they know this can have more than one host!

Then saw this in the "U.S. MARINE CORPS DISEASE CONTAINMENT PREPAREDNESS PLANNING GUIDANCE FOR 2019 NOVEL CORONAVIRUS (2019 nCoV)"

"Until further notice, it is recommended that civilian employees and contractor personnel, and family members returning from China follow existing CDC guidance. Key aspects include voluntarily: remaining at home, avoiding congregate settings, limiting close contact with people and pets/other animals to the greatest extent possible, avoiding travel, self-monitoring, and seeking immediate medical care if symptoms develop."


3. Execution.

3.A. Commander’s Intent.

3.A.1. Method.

3.A.1.A. Plan, and take preparatory and precautionary actions to ensure that an outbreak of 2019-nCoV does not incapacitate Marine Corps forces, installations, and facilities. If 2019-nCoV is introduced on USMC installations and facilities, or within the Fleet Marine Force (FMF), execute plans and procedures to improve Force Health Protection (FHP) and readiness.

3.A.1.B. Planning will address protection of all Marines, government civilian, contract workforce personnel, and military family members.

3.A.1.C. Planning will address FHP, both in garrison and during deployment. Per reference E, the following prescriptive measures must be adhered to:

3.A.1.C.1. Identify all Marines returning from mainland China after 2 February 2020 and place service members under a 14-day restriction of movement (ROM).

3.A.1.C.2. During the 14-day ROM:

3.A.1.C.2.A. Restrict Marines to their residence for a 14-day ROM period, starting from the day of departure from mainland China.

3.A.1.C.2.B. Marines will be assessed by cognizant medical staff (by phone consultation or in person), as soon as possible, within the first 24 hours of arrival to home station or their final destination, for the development of fever or symptoms of 2019-nCoV.

3.A.1.C.2.C. Marines living in open-bay settings, or rooms with shared bathrooms and/or kitchen facilities, will be placed in separate lodging to span the 14-day ROM period. The command to which the Marine is assigned will arrange for the separate lodging.

3.A.1.C.2.D. Marines will be assessed daily for fever and symptoms by cognizant medical staff (by phone consultation or in person). For all in-person assessments of members, (including those which are asymptomatic), medical personnel should wear appropriate PPE.

3.A.1.C.2.E. Marines will separate themselves from other people in the home/dwelling if residing with roommates/family members to avoid sharing personal items, to the extent possible pursuant to existing guidance.

3.A.1.C.2.F. Marines may not travel, visit public/crowded areas, or use public transportation and should avoid interaction with pets or other animals, to the greatest extent possible.

3.A.1.C.2.G. Medical evaluation and care will be immediately arranged if the Marine displays fever and symptoms consistent with the 2019-nCoV, as per CDC guidance.

3.A.1.C.2.G.1. The Marine will call ahead before going to a medical treatment facility (MTF), informing the MTF of his/her symptoms and travel history.

3.A.1.C.2.G.2. MTF staff should follow CDC guidance when assessing Marines who display fever and symptoms consistent with 2019-nCoV.
3.A.1.C.2.G.3. If a Marine or Sailor is identified as a patient, per previously published guidance, appropriate reporting will be initiated.

3.A.1.C.3. Until further notice, it is recommended that civilian employees and contractor personnel, and family members returning from China follow existing CDC guidance. Key aspects include voluntarily: remaining at home, avoiding congregate settings, limiting close contact with people and pets/other animals to the greatest extent possible, avoiding travel, self-monitoring, and seeking immediate medical care if symptoms develop.

3.A.1.C.4. Potentially affected personnel will be identified in coordination with Federal, State, and local medical planners, healthcare providers, and Public Health Emergency Officers (PHEOs). Actions will mitigate the spread of 2019-nCoV to unaffected personnel.

3.B. End State. The U.S. Marine Corps is postured to mitigate, contain, respond to, and recover from the effects of a public health crisis, and is capable of conducting assigned missions in a pandemic environment.
 
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momengineer

Senior Member
thread drift...concerning a post pandemic world...if you enjoy fiction the book Breakdown by Katherine hanna is Set in a post flu world. It’s not your usual prepper with guns and caches story but more of the “people” side of things...


My apologies for the drift...back to your regularly scheduled doom...
 

pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
DOD, HHS, DHS Should Use Existing Coordination Mechanisms to Improve Their Pandemic Preparedness
February 13, 2017 Homeland Security Today

DHS’s IG stated, “The US Army estimates that if a severe infectious disease pandemic were to occur today, the number of US fatalities could be almost twice the total number of battlefield fatalities in all of America’s wars since the American Revolution in 1776.”

 

summerthyme

Administrator
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RCL reverses its Coronavirus policy

ROYAL Caribbean Cruises (RCL) has reversed its ban on
Chinese passport holders, originally imposed amid
coronavirus fears.
Last week’s initial ruling from the company stipulated no
Chinese, Hong Kong or Macao passport holder would be allowed aboard the company’s ships,
across its Azamara, Celebrity and Royal Caribbean International brands, but the ban has now
been lifted after accusations of discrimination from passengers.
The embargo is now just 15 days, and applies to those who
have travelled from, to or through China, Hong Kong or Macao.
The cruise line said it initially made the decision due to “governments around the world restricting travel for Chinese passport holders...now that these governmental restrictions have been clarified, we are able to
clarify our own policies”.
MEANWHILE, RCL has cancelled two more cruises due to the coronavirus outbreak, and cleared one other for departure.
Quantum of the Seas’ 15 and 24 Feb departures from
Singapore will now no longer take place, the cruise line has informed guests, who will be provided full refunds.
However, Anthem of the Seas has departed New Jersey, with
none of a group of 27 passengers who were tested for coronavirus returning positive.
We're doomed. Sacrificed on the altar of Political Correctness, speared by the twin horns of Crony Capitalism and Dumbing Down.

God help us all.

Summerthyme
 

LoupGarou

Ancient Fuzzball
Question regarding comments about your fish...( :) ).... don’t you still need a Rx for these? I went to one of the online sites , recommended here, to order a supply, then saw Rx must be scanned from your doctor to order.

How does that work? Do you just ask your Dr for some Rx in advance? Most doctors wouldn’t do that !, I thought(?)
Thomas Labs, via one of their sites: Fish Antibiotics - Free Shipping on NON-Prescription Fish Antibiotics
I also have used AllDayChemist and ValleyVet (I have a LOT of fish, and chickens...).

I would also suggest getting both of the books that Dr. Alton and his wife have on their site: Disaster Preparedness Survival First Aid Kits | Natural Disaster Preparedness | Survival Preparedness Supplies
Book1: Altons Antibiotics and Infectious Disease: The Layman's Guide To Available Antibacterials in Austere Settings
Book2: The Survival Medicine Handbook Third Edition: The Essential Guide for When Help is NOT on the Way

I would also suggest getting a copy (or downloading):
Where there is no Doctor
Where there is no Dentist
Survival_and_Austere_Medicine_3rd_ed
(Trying to find links now, this might take a few...)

Loup
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
i see this is still causing panic...recall yesterday we were reminded how viruses replicate, what it means about their strength when not detected etc...these people whos titers, iirc the word, are not high enough to test positive can indeed infect you, but...
they are carrying a light load themselves, and are not having the symptoms triggered such as sneezing, coughing and mucus production that carries the infectious agents to others to the same degree...
Did you happen to bookmark that FANTASTIC micro biology basic class that was posted??

It really deserves a safe posting point where people can go back to it many times.


See below. post 11,601
 
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mudlogger

Veteran Member
DOD, HHS, DHS Should Use Existing Coordination Mechanisms to Improve Their Pandemic Preparedness
February 13, 2017 Homeland Security Today

DHS’s IG stated, “The US Army estimates that if a severe infectious disease pandemic were to occur today, the number of US fatalities could be almost twice the total number of battlefield fatalities in all of America’s wars since the American Revolution in 1776.”

So about 1,236,000 for double our war dead. Wow.
 

pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
Part 4 Wuhan coronavirus: Japan's Demon Of BioWar Kawaoka Inserted HIV Force Multipliers Inside The Wuhan Virus

Creation of Wuhan CoV as a war crime

By grafting HIV proteins into a flu virus, renegade researcher Yoshihiro Kawaoka not only increased a dormant virus’s ability to replicate but, in the process of repeating this technique in his subsequent virus research, has unleashed ruthlessly aggressive hybrids with massive killing power as seen in the unstoppable slaughter of innocents in Wuhan. The exponential expansion of the death toll in China, soon to be repeated in other countries, proves that a persistent laxity of ethical standards in the major powers, and abysmal performance of the WHO, has enabled a maniacal campaign of extermination by the heirs of Unit 731 to realize their mission of genocide. The lawless pharmaceuticals, insane vaccinators and rogue microbiologists must be stopped in their tracks or humanity will face its final solution.


 

Texican

Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
The lefties want to replace us with all the immigrants! We are goners!
The immigrants will have a more deadly response in America and in south and north of the border due to their lack of medical care and poor living conditions - slums....

Texican....
 

jward

passin' thru
Did you happen to bookmark that FANTASTIC micro biology basic class that was posted??

It really deserves a safe posting point where people can go back to it many times.
marsh has graciously taken on the chore of corraling our bookmarks THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOU DO marsh!...
so we probably have the link, but please throw it out again, no such thing as too much good free knowledge! :)
 

Allotrope

Contributing Member
Part 4 Wuhan coronavirus: Japan's Demon Of BioWar Kawaoka Inserted HIV Force Multipliers Inside The Wuhan Virus

Things could be worse. You could genetically engineer:

birds with fangs, Black Momba venom, and a bad attitude;
mosquitoes that inject LSD when they sting;
yeast that ferments not only to alcohol but also carfentanil;
airborne mold that absorbs Gallium and extrudes it onto aluminum surfaces;
parrot feather color genes into domestic animals (anyone seen my purple rabbit?);
lightening bugs that radiate in the microwave range instead of optical;

and none of these would cause as many problems as bioweapons can.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Sounds a little like China, except for welding the doors shut.............



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US military prepping for coronavirus pandemic

3 hours ago


U.S. Northern Command is executing plans to prepare for a potential pandemic of the novel coronavirus, now called COVID19, according to Navy and Marine Corps service-wide messages issued this week.

An executive order issued by the Joint Staff and approved by Defense Secretary Mark Esper this month directed Northern Command and geographic combatant commanders to initiate pandemic plans, which include ordering commanders to prepare for widespread outbreaks and confining service members with a history of travel to China.

The Navy and Marine Corps messages, issued Tuesday and Wednesday, respectively, reference an executive order directing U.S. Northern Command to implement the Department of Defense Global Campaign plan for Pandemic Influenza and Infectious Diseases 3551-13.

The document serves as the Pentagon’s blueprint for planning and preparing for widespread dispersion of influenza and previously unknown diseases.

U.S. Northern Command said Wednesday it was directed the Joint Staff Feb. 1 to commence “prudent planning” in their assigned role synchronizing the department’s plans for pandemic flu and disease.

“We coordinate with other combatant commands to assess potential impacts in the event of a pandemic and we ensure the U.S. military is poised to respond as required,” said Northern Command in a statement emailed to Military Times. “The military profession fosters a culture of planning, and the fact that we are coordinating planning efforts across the geographical combatant commands is consistent with how we prepare to respond, if directed.”

According to the Marine Corps message MARADMIN 082/20, commanders are to review their disease containment plans and take “preparatory and precautionary actions” to protect service members, installations and ships.

This includes ensuring that the plans contain procedures for “response, isolation, quarantine, restriction of movement and community based intervention” as well as developing measures to contain and treat those possibly exposed.

 

naegling62

Veteran Member
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