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Peanut

Resident Pit Yorkie :)
That was one of my first thoughts, too...fortunately the American public is pretty wise to all manner of 'orange man bad' BS
so I do not think it will get traction.

No, we won't fall for it but maybe the general Chinese public would.
 

jward

passin' thru
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Iran reports first suspected coronavirus case

Arash Najimi, a spokesman with Isfahan University of Medical Science, said that a 29-year-old person with symptoms of coronavirus, including fever, cough, and shortness of breath, is now hospitalized and is under intensive care.


"This person works at Isfahan airport and has been in contact with Chinese tourists,” Najimi said. The person has undergone different tests and results will be announced within the next 48 hours, he added.


Iran has restricted all flights and recreational travels to and from China due to coronavirus outbreak. Health Minister Saeed Namaki has said that screening and surveillance is underway across all the country’s air and sea borders.


According to the World Health Organization, coronaviruses (CoV) are a large family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases such as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS-CoV). A novel coronavirus (nCoV) is a new strain that has not been previously identified in humans.


Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, the infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure, and even death.


Standard recommendations to prevent infection spread include regular hand washing, covering mouth and nose when coughing and sneezing, thoroughly cooking meat and eggs. Avoid close contact with anyone showing symptoms of respiratory illness such as coughing and sneezing.


Since its outbreak in December, more than 360 people have died of the disease in China, the country's health authorities said Monday. The total number of cases in mainland China stood at 17,205 as of Sunday evening.

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rondaben

Veteran Member
These are some of the questions I have regarding this outbreak that I can't quite come up with a solid answer for...

1) Length of time from infection to signs/symptoms (Fever, body aches, etc)
2) Length of time from fever, body aches to pneumonia symptoms
3) Length of time from pneumonia symptoms until death if untreated

If we could get some solid figures for these questions, then we could start to determine which direction this outbreak is going, i.e. - More deadly / Less deadly

With the limited reports coming out of China, it's kind of hard to determine what mutation of this virus is causing what symptoms at any particular time in the infection process. I guess that is why most epidemics/pandemics are viewed from the backside instead of during the crisis because there are far to many variables with a virus that is constantly evolving and mutating.

1. From everything I have seen about clinical treatment it is 3-5 days from infection to the start of symptoms--typically cough, myalgia. +/- fever
2. Fever starts day 3-5. May also have nausea/vomiting/diarrhea at this point. I would believe that at this point the patient is infectious from body fluids, stool, droplets. This phase progresses to shortness of breath at day 7-10 significant enough for hospitalization. Generally ARDS, respiratory failure, intubation, ventilator 3-4 days after admission. WIthout intervention this would likely result in death.

I believe that you are seeing a first wave in the US right now. I would expect the virus was here on January 15th with the first case in Washington. He reported to the Urgent care on January 19th with what appeared to be an atypical pneumonia (indistinguishable basically from mycoplasma pneumoniae). He had "felt" like he had a fever, and had a cough from the time he arrived on US soil until he went to the UC. He would have likely been infected around January 10th, and would have been infectious while on the plane and at home.

Had he not seen warnings from the CDC and reported to the UC clinic a few things would likely have taken a much different course. He would have likely been treated with a medication like azithromycin or doxycycline (to treat most forms of atypical pneumonia) and sent home. As his breathing became more labored (O2sat dropped to 90) he was put on supplemental oxygen. Otherwise his care was pretty much supportive in nature--maintenence fluids, tylenol for fever, etc.

I believe that it would probably be reasonable to think you might see patients in 7 to 10 day cycles, that is person one is infected, are asymptomatic for 2-3 days; mild flu symptoms for 3-5 days (infectious), hospitalized at day 7-8, resolves 5-8 days later.
 

jward

passin' thru
The table below shows confirmed cases of coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in China and other countries. To see a distribution map and a timeline, scroll down. There are currently 20,629 confirmed cases worldwide, including 427 fatalities.





Last update: 3 February 2020 at 11:31 p.m. ET


MAINLAND CHINACasesDeathsNotesLinks
Hubei province
(including Wuhan)
13,5224141,567 serious, 576 criticalSource
Zhejiang province829043 serious, 15 criticalSource
Guangdong province797061 serious, 25 criticalSource
Henan province675239 serious, 15 criticalSource
Hunan province593051 seriousSource
Anhui province48005 criticalSource
Jiangxi province4760 37 serious Source
Chongqing337223 serious, 6 criticalSource
Jiangsu province30802 seriousSource
Sichuan province283*113 criticalSource
Shandong province270020 serious, 2 criticalSource
Beijing212111 criticalSource
Shanghai20818 serious, 6 criticalSource
Fujian province194015 serious, 7 criticalSource
Shaanxi province14201+ seriousSource
Guangxi Region13908 serious, 4 criticalSource
Yunnan province11407 serious, 3 criticalSource
Hebei province126112 seriousSource
Heilongjiang province155217 seriousSource
Liaoning province7406 seriousSource
Hainan province79110 seriousSource
Shanxi province7405 seriousSource
Tianjin6601+ seriousSource
Gansu province5507 serious, 2 criticalSource
Guizhou province5606 serious, 6 criticalSource
Ningxia Region3406 seriousSource
Inner Mongolia350Source
Jilin province4203 serious, 2 criticalSource
Xinjiang2908 serious, 2 criticalSource
Qinghai province1501 seriousSource
Tibet10StableSource
Undisclosed180Source
TOTAL20,4384252,788 serious
632 recovered
23,214 suspected


REGIONSCasesDeathsNotesLinks
Hong Kong151Source
Taiwan100Source
Macau90Source
TOTAL3410 serious


INTERNATIONALCasesDeathsNotesLinks
Japan20*0Source
Thailand1907 recoveredSource
Singapore180All stableSource
South Korea160Source
Australia122 recoveredSource
Germany120Source
Malaysia80StableSource
United States110Source
Vietnam902 recoveredSource
France601 seriousSource
UAE50StableSource
Canada40Source
England20Source
Russia20Source
Philippines21Source
India30StableSource
Italy20Source
Nepal10Source
Cambodia10Source
Sri Lanka101 recoveredSource
Finland10Source
Sweden10Source
Spain10Source
TOTAL15711 serious
 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
Okay that was very informative. The German cases with the infected auto parts supply employees was via the Shanghai female contact, that has now spread to two of the children of the German employee. I have no doubt that these mutations and strains regionally will align with airtravel hubs and in nearly direct routes of infectious transfer.
 

jward

passin' thru
  • part two
    • The number of cases in Sichuan province, China, includes 1 asymptomatic case. This case is not included in the government’s official count.
    • The number of cases as counted by the Japanese government does not include 5 asymptomatic cases.
    • 1 suspected case in Botswana is still under investigation. (Source)
  • Timeline (GMT)
    4 February
    • 03:22: 15 new cases in Fujian province, China. (Source)
    • 03:09: 6 new cases in Tianjin, China. (Source)
    • 02:55: 1 new case in South Korea. (Source)
    • 02:50: 1 new case in Vietnam. (Source)
    • 02:46: 1 new case in Macau. (Source)
    • 02:45: 1 new death in Hong Kong. This is the first death in Hong Kong and the second outside mainland China. (Source)
    • 02:22: 1 new case in Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
    • 02:13: 14 new cases in Shaanxi province, China. (Source)
    • 02:03: 3 new cases in Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
    • 01:57: 72 new cases in Guangdong province, China. The other cases mentioned in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
    • 01:42: 72 new cases in Hunan province, China. (Source)
    • 01:20: 85 new cases in Jiangxi province, China. (Source)
    • 01:07: 2 new cases in Qinghai province, China. (Source)
    • 01:05: 105 new cases in Zhejiang province, China. (Source)
    • 01:00: 5 new cases in Xinjiang Region, China. (Source)
    • 00:56: 28 new cases in Sichuan province, China. (Source)
    • 00:48: 37 new cases in Jiangsu province, China. (Source)
    • 00:44: 11 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
    • 00:38: 7 new cases in Hainan province, China. Two other cases mentioned in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
    • 00:37: 109 new cases in Henan province, China. (Source)
    • 00:33: 10 new cases in Guizhou province, China. (Source)
    • 00:27: 37 new cases in Heilongjiang province, China. (Source)
    • 00:25: 72 new cases in Anhui province, China. (Source)
    • 00:09: 12 new cases in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
    • 00:08: 11 new cases in Jilin province, China. (Source)
  • 3 February
    • 23:59: 13 new cases in Hebei province, China. (Source)
    • 23:59: 5 new cases in Shanghai. (Source)
    • 23:57: China’s National Health Commission reports 750 new cases across the mainland. Their locations have not yet been disclosed. (Source)
    • 22:48: 25 new cases in Chongqing, China. (Source)
    • 22:25: 8 new cases in Shanxi province, China. (Source)
    • 22:10: 2,345 new cases and 64 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
    • 20:07: 1 new case in Germany. (Source)
    • 20:00: 1 new case in Germany. (Source)
    • 15:32: 1 new case in Hainan province, China. (Source)
    • 15:07: 4 new cases in Gansu province, China. (Source)

  • ce)
  • 13:18: 4 new cases in Tianjin, China. (Source)
  • 11:47: 1 new case in Liaoning province, China. (Source)
  • 09:02: 24 new cases in Beijing. Three earlier cases were discarded. (Source)
  • 08:25: 42 new cases in Guangdong province, China. (Source)
  • 08:21: 5 new cases in Yunnan province, China. (Source)
  • 08:10: 12 new cases in Chongqing, China. (Source)
  • 07:59: 13 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
  • 06:48: 1 new case in India. (Source)
  • 06:42: 4 new cases in Yunnan province, China. (Source)
  • 06:40: 10 new cases in Shanghai. (Source)
  • 05:11: 3 new cases in Liaoning province, China. (Source)
  • 05:10: 2 new cases in Tianjin, China. (Source)
  • 03:16: 1 new case in Vietnam. (Source)
  • 03:15: 20 new cases in Fujian province, China. (Source)
  • 02:33: 7 new cases in Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
  • 02:25: 6 new cases in Tianjin, China. (Source)
  • 02:13: 12 new cases in Shaanxi province, China. (Source)
  • 02:09: 3 new cases in Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
  • 02:07: 3 new cases in Hainan province, China. The other cases in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
  • 01:30: 2 new cases in Qinghai province, China. Two other cases in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
  • 01:23: 58 new cases in Hunan province, China. (Source)
  • 01:18: 51 new cases in Guangdong province, China. The other cases in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
  • 01:16: 23 new cases in Heilongjiang province, China. (Source)
  • 01:10: 59 new cases in Jiangxi province, China. One previous case was discarded. (Source)
  • 01:04: 63 new cases in Zhejiang province, China. (Source)
  • 01:02: 3 new cases in Xinjiang Region, China. (Source)
  • 01:01: 16 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
  • 01:00: 35 new cases in Jiangsu province, China. (Source)
  • 00:59: 8 new cases in Jilin province, China. (Source)
  • 00:58: 23 new cases in Sichuan province, China. (Source)
  • 00:57: 73 new cases in Henan province, China. (Source)
  • 00:56: 68 new cases in Anhui province, China. (Source)
  • 00:55: 2 new cases in California, United States. (Source)
  • 00:33: 8 new cases in Guizhou province, China. (Source)
  • 00:06: 9 new cases in Hebei province, China. (Source)
  • 00:00: 16 new cases in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
2 February

  • 23:57: 11 new cases in Shanghai. (Source)
  • 23:54: China’s National Health Commission reports 593 new cases across the mainland. Their locations have not yet been disclosed. (Source)
  • 23:35: 25 new cases and 1 new death in Chongqing, China. (Source)
  • 23:05: 10 new cases in Shanxi province, China. (Source)
  • 22:08: 2,103 new cases and 56 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 21:34: 1 new case in California, United States. (Source)
  • 16:04: 11 new cases in Gansu province, China. (Source)
  • 14:55: 1 new cases in Liaoning province, China. (Source)
  • 13:38: 1 new case in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 10:18: 6 new cases in Yunnan province, China. (Source)
  • 10:03: 2 new cases in Germany. (Source)
  • 08:51: 13 new cases in Chongqing, China. (Source)
  • 08:50: 5 new cases in Liaoning province, China. (Source)
  • 08:44: 5 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
  • 08:41: 8 new cases in Beijing. (Source)
  • 08:30: 28 new cases in Guangdong province, China. (Source)
  • 06:57: 6 new cases in Hainan province, China. (Source)
  • 06:51: 6 new cases in Jilin province, China. (Source)
  • 06:44: 4 new cases in Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
  • 06:32: 15 new cases in Beijing. (Source)
  • 06:25: 15 new cases in Shaanxi province, China. (Source)
  • 06:06: 15 new cases in Fujian province, China. (Source)
  • 06:05: 5 new cases in Shanghai. (Source)
  • 06:00: 7 new cases in Tianjin, China. (Source 1, Source 2)
  • 05:44: 1 new case in Macau. (Source)
  • 05:15: 2 new cases in Qinghai province, China. (Source)
  • 05:10: 8 new cases in Yunnan province, China. (Source)
  • 05:00: 74 new cases in Hunan province, China. (Source)
  • 04:50: 2 new cases in Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
  • 04:49: 15 new cases in Heilongjiang province, China. (Source)
  • 04:48: 62 new cases in Zhejiang province, China. (Source)
  • 04:47: 47 new cases in Jiangxi province, China. (Source)
  • 04:46: 69 new cases in Guangdong province, China. (Source)
  • 04:45: 43 new cases in Anhui province, China. (Source)
  • 04:44: 34 new cases in Jiangsu province, China. (Source)
  • 04:43: 19 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
  • 04:42: 24 new cases in Sichuan province, China. (Source)
  • 04:41: 3 new cases in Xinjiang Region, China. (Source)
  • 04:40: 1 new case in Vietnam. (Source)
  • 03:48: 1 new case in India. (Source)
  • 02:37: 1 new case, a fatality, in the Philippines. This is the first death outside China. (Source)
  • 00:55: 3 new cases in South Korea. (Source)
  • 00:32: 71 new cases in Henan province, China. (Source)
  • 00:29: 9 new cases in Guizhou province, China. (Source)
  • 00:02: 8 new cases in Hebei province, China. (Source)
  • 00:00: 11 new cases in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
For the full timeline, click here.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
Lopinavir and ritonavir are HIV drugs- oseltamivir is tamiflu IIRC

Yes. Tamiflu is useless for flu, little alone something like this. The protease inhibitors likely slow the disease progression and MAY slow down the progression of the disease. I think these stories are setting people up to be disappointed.
 

EMICT

Veteran Member
1. From everything I have seen about clinical treatment it is 3-5 days from infection to the start of symptoms--typically cough, myalgia. +/- fever
2. Fever starts day 3-5. May also have nausea/vomiting/diarrhea at this point. I would believe that at this point the patient is infectious from body fluids, stool, droplets. This phase progresses to shortness of breath at day 7-10 significant enough for hospitalization. Generally ARDS, respiratory failure, intubation, ventilator 3-4 days after admission. WIthout intervention this would likely result in death.

I believe that you are seeing a first wave in the US right now. I would expect the virus was here on January 15th with the first case in Washington. He reported to the Urgent care on January 19th with what appeared to be an atypical pneumonia (indistinguishable basically from mycoplasma pneumoniae). He had "felt" like he had a fever, and had a cough from the time he arrived on US soil until he went to the UC. He would have likely been infected around January 10th, and would have been infectious while on the plane and at home.

Had he not seen warnings from the CDC and reported to the UC clinic a few things would likely have taken a much different course. He would have likely been treated with a medication like azithromycin or doxycycline (to treat most forms of atypical pneumonia) and sent home. As his breathing became more labored (O2sat dropped to 90) he was put on supplemental oxygen. Otherwise his care was pretty much supportive in nature--maintenence fluids, tylenol for fever, etc.

I believe that it would probably be reasonable to think you might see patients in 7 to 10 day cycles, that is person one is infected, are asymptomatic for 2-3 days; mild flu symptoms for 3-5 days (infectious), hospitalized at day 7-8, resolves 5-8 days later.

It appears that we are now smack dab in the middle of the time frame to determine if there will be a 'jump' in PUI's here in the US.

This is the part of the CDC figures that bother me... Number of states with PUI: 36
They don't appear to want to name the 36 states with persons under investigation.
 

bev

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Everything you need to know about Respiratory Protection is on YouTube. There are manufacturer videos of which 3M has many. Respiratory Program Managers for Big Industry are often Industrial Hygienist and Safety Managers/Specialist using OSHA and NIOSH Guidelines.

Pliny The Elder pioneered Respiratory Protection around the first century using animal bladders. Fortunately he didn’t use animals out of the Wuhan Market Place.

If you want to get educated on respirator use for yourself and loved ones, spend an hour or so watching videos with the following YouTube Search Suggestions:

Respirators vs Mask

Respirator Types

Respirator replacement filters cartridges

Respirator Fit Testing

Respirators neg pressure pos pressure supplied air

I think what he was referring to was the donning and ... doffing(?) of PPE. Not just masks, but gloves, gowns, goggles, shoe covers, etc. And I believe he’s right, very few people can utilize their PPE effectively. I worked in infection control at a medium sized hospital for a time, and observed this first-hand.

so, maybe a better search would be for PPE in general.

here’s a start...


how to put on and take off PPE - YouTube
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
There I fixed it for you: 4000 plus DEAD AND 200,000 PLUS INFECTED. The Chinese leadership are WAR CRIMINALS down to the last marxist barbarian. I went and ordered a Mossberg 500 Persuader 20 gauge which I shoul have in seven days, so that is good
My Uncle Mike's holsters were all made in Vietnam and took a week to order.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
I think what he was referring to was the donning and ... doffing(?) of PPE. Not just masks, but gloves, gowns, goggles, shoe covers, etc. And I believe he’s right, very few people can utilize their PPE effectively. I worked in infection control at a medium sized hospital for a time, and observed this first-hand.

so, maybe a better search would be for PPE in general.

here’s a start...


how to put on and take off PPE - YouTube

I posted videos on the prep thread several days ago as well.
 
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Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
I am finding out that just in time also applies to guns, ammo, and accessories, more of which are made overseas than I first realized. Of course besides the novel virus, Doomer Doug may be dealing with anti Trump riots, here in Little Beirut, on Tuesday, when Trump gives THE STATE OF THE UNION, AND ALSO WHEN THE ANTIFA THUGS REALIZE HE WON'T BE IMPEACHED. THANKS AGAIN, DOC 1, FOR THE 357 GIFTS YOU GAVE ME.
 

EMICT

Veteran Member
I understand why the CDC does not want to change their guidance, but if we have an increase in PUI's then they are going to have to consider (rather quickly) to change their parameters for testing.

Right now, their parameters are either recent contact with persons from Wuhan, or contact with persons 'known' to be infected with nCoV. If they continue down this line, then potential patients that are negative for flu will be told to go home and monitor their symptoms for 14 days. Doing so will just potentiate the "China effect" and allow this to rapidly spread unchecked.

Hopefully, they will come out with guidance along the lines of... 'If a patient presents with true flu like symptoms and tests negative for the flu, then this person automatically becomes a PUI and appropriate measures are taken to isolate and test further for nCoV'.

IMHO, that is the only way they are going to get a handle on it here in the US and provide proper guidance and reduce the spread. The "contact with know persons with nCoV or contact with persons from Wuhan" is already extinct for guidance.
 
Gilead’s experimental Ebola drug being tested in patients infected with coronavirus | Pharmafile


Published on 03/02/20 at 12:24pm

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China and the US are testing Gilead’s remdesivir in patients with the coronavirus, in the hopes of developing an effective treatment for a disease that does not yet have a vaccine.


This new anti-viral drug had been created with an aim to treat Ebola and SARS. It is being studied by a medical team at the China-Japan Friendship Hospital in Beijing for efficacy in treating the coronavirus. It has been giving to a small number of patients with the disease.


Now a randomized trial is being established to test the drug against people who are not infected. Chief Medical Officer at Gilead, Merdad Parsey, said: “While there are no antiviral data for remdesivir that show activity against 2019-nCoV at this time, available data in other coronaviruses give us hope.”


A patient in the US also received this drug treatment. He is a 35-year-old man who developed pneumonia after contracting the coronavirus and has been hospitalised at the Providence Regional Medical Center Everett in Washington State. The doctors reported that on 26 January his condition seemed to improve within a day, and by 30 January it had resolved most of the symptoms except a cough.


Chief Medical Officer at Center, Jay Cook, said: “We felt the benefits of using this drug outweighed whatever potential risk there might be and we obtained his informed consent.”


The drug had been dropped from clinical trial last year, where it had been tested as an Ebola treatment. It was found to be ineffective compared to some of the others being tested. It has not been approved by any country’s regulatory body.
 
Gilead's Ebola Drug Shows Positive Signs in Treating Coronavirus | The Motley Fool

Gilead's Ebola Drug Shows Positive Signs in Treating Coronavirus
Shares of the biotech giant surged in light of the news.

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Feb 3, 2020 at 5:25PM

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Gilead Sciences (NASDAQ:GILD) shot up as much as 13% on the news that its failed Ebola drug, remdesivir, showed promising initial signs of helping patients with the coronavirus. In an official statement before the weekend, the company announced it was working together with U.S. and Chinese health regulators to see whether remdesivir could improve patient symptoms.

The company stated that remdesivir saw some success in treating patients with SARS and MERS, two other viruses with similarities with the coronavirus when tested in animals. Remdesivir was also tested on one U.S. coronavirus patient prior to the weekend, who showed an impressive improvement in symptoms following a single dose.

Close up depiction of virus cells in the body.

Image source: Getty Images.

The New England Journal of Medicine reported that a U.S. patient received a dose of remdesivir from doctors on a compassionate use basis. Whereas the patient had been showing signs of pneumonia, fever, and required supplemental oxygen, after remdesivir was given, all symptoms disappeared except for a cough and mucus buildup in the nasal cavity (rhinorrhea).

Further details
While impressive, further clinical tests need to be performed before Gilead's remdesivir can be recommended for widespread coronavirus treatment. Other pharmaceutical giants are also hoping to develop a treatment, with Johnson & Johnson and GlaxoSmithKline working on their own vaccines. AbbVie stated it saw positive results by mixing two HIV medications with another drug called Tamiflu.

However, the biggest winners over the past few weeks have been small-cap specialty vaccine producers. Moderna and Inovio Pharmaceuticals have seen substantial swings in their stock prices as the coronavirus continues to spread. There are now 362 confirmed deaths from the outbreak so far.
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
JMHO here, but I think the economic consequences are going to be horrendous and this is all the more reason to get (substantial) food preps in order. As I posted much earlier on this thread, we further stocked up on our already substantial food stores and topped off various fuel storage. A very large percentage of American medicines are either made in China or critical pharmaceutical ingredients used in our medicines are made there. Do you have an adequate supply of meds (to include prescriptions)? Exactly like our old Y2K concerns, I believe you should be prepared to be self sufficient for a protracted period. If this goes bad in the US - and I pray that it doesn't - the worm will turn very quickly. At that point it will be too late to acquire what you need.

Best
Doc
 

jward

passin' thru
parallel_universe liked
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@BNODesk
This appears to be the first foreign case with no clear link to China. The woman returned from Thailand to South Korea on Jan. 19 and started feeling chills on Jan. 25. Thailand has 19 confirmed cases.
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yet another Chris Martenson video from Peak Prosperity. Here Chris talks about the infection curve and the need to stock your pantry. He also observes - as I did in my previous post (before I watched this vid) - of the need to get preps in before the herd sniffs danger in the air. Very much worthwhile watching. Around 20 minutes.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuRJD8ZxDLk


Best
Doc
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
uh- what passes for good news, I reckon?
China Daily
@ChinaDaily

3m

Expert: Patient recovered from the novel #coronavirus will have temporary antibodies, and is unlikely to get infected by the virus again in at least half a year or longer.
View: https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1224509560469110784?s=20

Sure...

The virus mutates so rapidly that people in the same family have different variations...

But, don't worry... You'll be good for 180 days...

At least...

:rolleyes:
 
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