That was one of my first thoughts, too...fortunately the American public is pretty wise to all manner of 'orange man bad' BS
so I do not think it will get traction.
No, we won't fall for it but maybe the general Chinese public would.
That was one of my first thoughts, too...fortunately the American public is pretty wise to all manner of 'orange man bad' BS
so I do not think it will get traction.
These are some of the questions I have regarding this outbreak that I can't quite come up with a solid answer for...
1) Length of time from infection to signs/symptoms (Fever, body aches, etc)
2) Length of time from fever, body aches to pneumonia symptoms
3) Length of time from pneumonia symptoms until death if untreated
If we could get some solid figures for these questions, then we could start to determine which direction this outbreak is going, i.e. - More deadly / Less deadly
With the limited reports coming out of China, it's kind of hard to determine what mutation of this virus is causing what symptoms at any particular time in the infection process. I guess that is why most epidemics/pandemics are viewed from the backside instead of during the crisis because there are far to many variables with a virus that is constantly evolving and mutating.
If this request is indeed genuine, they have either managed to destroy all of the evidence, or things have truly become apocalyptic.
MAINLAND CHINA | Cases | Deaths | Notes | Links |
Hubei province (including Wuhan) | 13,522 | 414 | 1,567 serious, 576 critical | Source |
Zhejiang province | 829 | 0 | 43 serious, 15 critical | Source |
Guangdong province | 797 | 0 | 61 serious, 25 critical | Source |
Henan province | 675 | 2 | 39 serious, 15 critical | Source |
Hunan province | 593 | 0 | 51 serious | Source |
Anhui province | 480 | 0 | 5 critical | Source |
Jiangxi province | 476 | 0 | 37 serious | Source |
Chongqing | 337 | 2 | 23 serious, 6 critical | Source |
Jiangsu province | 308 | 0 | 2 serious | Source |
Sichuan province | 283* | 1 | 13 critical | Source |
Shandong province | 270 | 0 | 20 serious, 2 critical | Source |
Beijing | 212 | 1 | 11 critical | Source |
Shanghai | 208 | 1 | 8 serious, 6 critical | Source |
Fujian province | 194 | 0 | 15 serious, 7 critical | Source |
Shaanxi province | 142 | 0 | 1+ serious | Source |
Guangxi Region | 139 | 0 | 8 serious, 4 critical | Source |
Yunnan province | 114 | 0 | 7 serious, 3 critical | Source |
Hebei province | 126 | 1 | 12 serious | Source |
Heilongjiang province | 155 | 2 | 17 serious | Source |
Liaoning province | 74 | 0 | 6 serious | Source |
Hainan province | 79 | 1 | 10 serious | Source |
Shanxi province | 74 | 0 | 5 serious | Source |
Tianjin | 66 | 0 | 1+ serious | Source |
Gansu province | 55 | 0 | 7 serious, 2 critical | Source |
Guizhou province | 56 | 0 | 6 serious, 6 critical | Source |
Ningxia Region | 34 | 0 | 6 serious | Source |
Inner Mongolia | 35 | 0 | Source | |
Jilin province | 42 | 0 | 3 serious, 2 critical | Source |
Xinjiang | 29 | 0 | 8 serious, 2 critical | Source |
Qinghai province | 15 | 0 | 1 serious | Source |
Tibet | 1 | 0 | Stable | Source |
Undisclosed | 18 | 0 | Source | |
TOTAL | 20,438 | 425 | 2,788 serious 632 recovered 23,214 suspected |
INTERNATIONAL | Cases | Deaths | Notes | Links |
Japan | 20* | 0 | Source | |
Thailand | 19 | 0 | 7 recovered | Source |
Singapore | 18 | 0 | All stable | Source |
South Korea | 16 | 0 | Source | |
Australia | 12 | 2 recovered | Source | |
Germany | 12 | 0 | Source | |
Malaysia | 8 | 0 | Stable | Source |
United States | 11 | 0 | Source | |
Vietnam | 9 | 0 | 2 recovered | Source |
France | 6 | 0 | 1 serious | Source |
UAE | 5 | 0 | Stable | Source |
Canada | 4 | 0 | Source | |
England | 2 | 0 | Source | |
Russia | 2 | 0 | Source | |
Philippines | 2 | 1 | Source | |
India | 3 | 0 | Stable | Source |
Italy | 2 | 0 | Source | |
Nepal | 1 | 0 | Source | |
Cambodia | 1 | 0 | Source | |
Sri Lanka | 1 | 0 | 1 recovered | Source |
Finland | 1 | 0 | Source | |
Sweden | 1 | 0 | Source | |
Spain | 1 | 0 | Source | |
TOTAL | 157 | 1 | 1 serious |
Lopinavir and ritonavir are HIV drugs- oseltamivir is tamiflu IIRC
1. From everything I have seen about clinical treatment it is 3-5 days from infection to the start of symptoms--typically cough, myalgia. +/- fever
2. Fever starts day 3-5. May also have nausea/vomiting/diarrhea at this point. I would believe that at this point the patient is infectious from body fluids, stool, droplets. This phase progresses to shortness of breath at day 7-10 significant enough for hospitalization. Generally ARDS, respiratory failure, intubation, ventilator 3-4 days after admission. WIthout intervention this would likely result in death.
I believe that you are seeing a first wave in the US right now. I would expect the virus was here on January 15th with the first case in Washington. He reported to the Urgent care on January 19th with what appeared to be an atypical pneumonia (indistinguishable basically from mycoplasma pneumoniae). He had "felt" like he had a fever, and had a cough from the time he arrived on US soil until he went to the UC. He would have likely been infected around January 10th, and would have been infectious while on the plane and at home.
Had he not seen warnings from the CDC and reported to the UC clinic a few things would likely have taken a much different course. He would have likely been treated with a medication like azithromycin or doxycycline (to treat most forms of atypical pneumonia) and sent home. As his breathing became more labored (O2sat dropped to 90) he was put on supplemental oxygen. Otherwise his care was pretty much supportive in nature--maintenence fluids, tylenol for fever, etc.
I believe that it would probably be reasonable to think you might see patients in 7 to 10 day cycles, that is person one is infected, are asymptomatic for 2-3 days; mild flu symptoms for 3-5 days (infectious), hospitalized at day 7-8, resolves 5-8 days later.
Everything you need to know about Respiratory Protection is on YouTube. There are manufacturer videos of which 3M has many. Respiratory Program Managers for Big Industry are often Industrial Hygienist and Safety Managers/Specialist using OSHA and NIOSH Guidelines.
Pliny The Elder pioneered Respiratory Protection around the first century using animal bladders. Fortunately he didn’t use animals out of the Wuhan Market Place.
If you want to get educated on respirator use for yourself and loved ones, spend an hour or so watching videos with the following YouTube Search Suggestions:
Respirators vs Mask
Respirator Types
Respirator replacement filters cartridges
Respirator Fit Testing
Respirators neg pressure pos pressure supplied air
I think what he was referring to was the donning and ... doffing(?) of PPE. Not just masks, but gloves, gowns, goggles, shoe covers, etc. And I believe he’s right, very few people can utilize their PPE effectively. I worked in infection control at a medium sized hospital for a time, and observed this first-hand.
so, maybe a better search would be for PPE in general.
here’s a start...
how to put on and take off PPE - YouTube
Rumors of 100,000 dead in China now!!
uh- what passes for good news, I reckon?
China Daily
@ChinaDaily
3m
Expert: Patient recovered from the novel #coronavirus will have temporary antibodies, and is unlikely to get infected by the virus again in at least half a year or longer.
View: https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1224509560469110784?s=20
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Get th' course work, and work with th' teachers/admins. Better to take finals, than get somethin' terminal...
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Get th' course work, and work with th' teachers/admins. Better to take finals, than get somethin' terminal...
OA
The bottom line, if you have a very low or no chance of survival, the patient will be shot up with pain killers and allowed to die....
Texican....
...and I hear the parks are empty this year!A wee bit o' beauty outta China
China Daily (@ChinaDaily) Tweeted:
#GlamorChina Plum blossoms are in full bloom at Jiming Temple in #Nanjing. #spring China Daily on Twitter View: https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1224583632313970690?s=20