Trivium Pursuit
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Also, in my research on what happens with shoulders, might have even been posted here, that the larger doses, i.e., naproxen, really weren't good for the injured joints...
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Hfcomms
EN66iq
Great company and I have bought from them several times. However I don't think they have a warehouse with stock on hand. They get an order and then ship off the request to Mountain House for drop shipping. If Mountain House is now on back order on some things try to find something on Amazon with cans or pouches still in stock. Anything that ships Amazon Prime should show that they have items in stock. I ordered three more cases last weekend and bought off Amazon using a third party that had items in stock. On one of those entree's [I think it was Lasagna] you were limited to four cans maximum and that was before the rush really started so I don't know if anyone has much of anything in stock right now. And if this really picks up this week all the other brands are going to disappear as well.
Trivium Pursuit
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Awww....
Hfcomms
EN66iq
In spades. Even here in CONUS if we end up with a 'low' chance of catching the bug thanks to globalism supply lines are going to dry up and because we buy so much from China and have no other alternatives to source from certain things are going to get scarce and inflation is going to pick up. Even most medicines and dietary supplements if not manufactured in China still source input from China.
This is going to effect everyone even if your like me living in a rural area in the boonies. And this could well be the event that pulls the plug out of the bath tub on the global economy. So much debt and already a global slowdown that this could well be the 'event' that we have been looking for. Even if the virus doesn't come knocking on your door the run on sure will.
Trivium Pursuit
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To this point, I remain impressed with the Barlow's Herbal catalogue I got. They grow all their own herbs here, and many could be thought of as medicinal, such as chanca piedra, which dissolves kidney stones, and pau d'arco. I have no connection with them other than being a customer. Am starting to build up with their Lomatium bundle right now.
One of our members suggested that now would be a good time to start checking the pulse of your area. IMO, Tuning into Broadcastify is a great way to do that. Listen to the feed that serves your airports, learn what's normal for injured/sick/unconscious persons in your apartment complexes.
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
Even a broken clock is right twice a day...
Hfcomms
EN66iq
Indeed. The Chinese authorities seem to be modeling DD's take on the issue as they are not going to quarantine over 60 million people now for nothing. And in China you break quarantine your not going to get a fine...they'll haul you out and shoot you. You don't do something that is so big that it might bring down your economy and financial system without a very good reason. Panic....no! Get your ducks in a row, prepare and don't be dismissive about this one.
Hogwrench
Senior Member
Well ain’t that awesome. What in the hell are they doing over there!! Guess this isn’t that surprising after they just had to cull several thousand chickens.
So now we have two pneumonia causing viruses making its way around over there. Buckle up folks. This could get even more interesting.
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
Is this a new H2H virus or just poultry ? I was thinking this was just effecting birds if NOT then yes we are in for a world of hurt.
Warm Wisconsin
Easy as 3.141592653589..
Tom, you gotta hang in there, Buddy. What you know, can maybe keep any surviving snoflakes alive. Certainly make it possible for them to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Shucks, with what you've seen, heard, and most likely experienced in your life, is certainly reason to keep on going. Snoflakes are gonna be desperate, once the power goes off...
All the Best,
OA
This scares the hell out of me. One here, one there, and then the clusters start. And now there's one dead outside of China.
Now, I just read above (after I posted) that there are 7 cases in the Bay Area. Last I knew there was one.
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naturallysweet
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May I suggest we keep a close eye on the countries surrounding China? I trust the governments of Japan and Thailand more than china, to tell us the truth about something caused by china. They have no reason to protects China's honor.
They are also a step ahead of us, with about 20 infected each.
Will the 20% increase seen in china continue for them?
They are also a step ahead of us, with about 20 infected each.
Will the 20% increase seen in china continue for them?
Trivium Pursuit
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Absolutely, and this has absolutely, positively proved the following: Totalitarian governments in general, and communist ones in particular, are extremely harmful to health and safety. We on the right, of course, have always known this. But this is so clear, so obvious even to the average J6P, that it is a unique, teachable moment. Which is to say,
The takeaway from this SHOULD be used in the 2020 Presidential election. I.E., THIS is the kind of government that Sanders, Warren, CLINTON, Occasional Cortex, et.al, WANT for America...
coalcracker
Veteran Member
"If I need something that I don't have, I don't need it."
- Ray Jardine
The quote above is from an author who was advocating ultra-light backpacking, but it equally applies to every aspect of life. (I personally had to read it multiple times and let it sink in before grasping the beauty of it. Hope it encourages you as it did me).
Trivium Pursuit
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Thailand has already been very forthcoming in discussing what's going on. I consider that truly good news as we watch to see how this progresses outside of China. They already noted that 22k Wuhanese had visited their country in January, and a high gov't official basically said that 'rulers' may not be able to control this thing. Breathtaking openness, compared to China...
forpetesake
Senior Member
WHAT??? Maybe my coffee hasn't kicked in yet. Someone help me. Am I reading that avian flu has infected people again??? God help us!
ETA: no human cases reported. I got that impression by the picture of ambulances outside the building. Must be a stock picture. Sheesh.
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Hfcomms
EN66iq
Coronavirus, Contagion and Complications
Dr. John Campbell
Feb 2, 2020
View: https://youtu.be/z05ZrMfKUDc
Evidence based update
20 minutes
Dr. John Campbell
Feb 2, 2020
Evidence based update
20 minutes
Greenspode
Veteran Member
So I just went to pick up a load of hay from a local farmer, who also happens to be my counties Director of Emergency Management. He is a good guy; I have known him well for years. Straight shooter, smart and grasps the big picture better than most. I casually, in the course of a conversation about what has been going on since I last saw him, mentioned the coronavirus. His reaction was interesting. He went blank....expression completely neutral, and said "yeah, it doesn't look good over there". I asked him if he was concerned about it developing here and he said "Well it's my job to worry a little, but I can't scare people. We do what we can with what we have. That's all we can do." He then changed the subject and returned to his normal, jovial and animated self. I didn't push any farther.
I interpret his demeanor and reaction, having known him for years, as "I don't want to/can't talk about this" vs. being dismissive or lack of awareness. I got the impression that he is aware and concerned but isn't able to let on or discuss the issue for fear of causing "panic". I did not get any feeling one way or the other how he felt about our (my counties) state of preparedness. He had a DEFINITE change of demeanor when I brought it up, but gave me little in the way of a useful response. I could interpret his "do what we can with what we have" as referring to the supplies and procedures we have in place already, or to the news that we are able to get, and on which we base our decisions.
I don't know what any of it means, but I thought I would share. I am curious what people at various levels of government and medical management are really thinking, and when and how they begin to react to the news as it develops. I hoped he would give me more to go on, but maybe he told me enough by not wanting to talk about it at all vs. offering his opinion one way or the other.
I interpret his demeanor and reaction, having known him for years, as "I don't want to/can't talk about this" vs. being dismissive or lack of awareness. I got the impression that he is aware and concerned but isn't able to let on or discuss the issue for fear of causing "panic". I did not get any feeling one way or the other how he felt about our (my counties) state of preparedness. He had a DEFINITE change of demeanor when I brought it up, but gave me little in the way of a useful response. I could interpret his "do what we can with what we have" as referring to the supplies and procedures we have in place already, or to the news that we are able to get, and on which we base our decisions.
I don't know what any of it means, but I thought I would share. I am curious what people at various levels of government and medical management are really thinking, and when and how they begin to react to the news as it develops. I hoped he would give me more to go on, but maybe he told me enough by not wanting to talk about it at all vs. offering his opinion one way or the other.
You believe he was a data point for you.
He is the County Director of Emergency Management. You asked about the virus.
YOU were a data point for him
cyberiot
Rimtas žmogus
Unless the bag melts down into toxic plastigoo that gums up the retort.
cyberiot
Rimtas žmogus
Eww . . . Wu Flu Stew . . .
CaryC
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What? Where you been living? This is the USA, and this happens every year around Christmas. People getting trampled when the doors open. Fights breaking out over the latest toy. I had to pull a Dennis (put my hand on my CCW) while in line at the cashier, cuz I thought 2 women would start mud wrestling, and didn't know who all else might think it was fun to get involved, or even where the boundary line was.
So this happens all the time. Just think how much fun it's going to be when it's over food and med's instead of TV's, and toys.
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blueinterceptor
Veteran Member
Not to mention their health care system
TxGal
Day by day
I'm just catching up this morning and reading people's comments about supply chain disruptions, which seem certain to occur.
And I started thinking back to all the threads and stories and worries about the infamous EMP and how it could/would blow out the big equipment and power generating systems - and that there are few replacements on hand in the US and it would take likely months (at least) to get them built and shipped from overseas. I dearly hope China isn't our only source, or we're in a world of hurt even in severe storms, tornadoes, hurricanes, aging equipment failures, etc.
And I started thinking back to all the threads and stories and worries about the infamous EMP and how it could/would blow out the big equipment and power generating systems - and that there are few replacements on hand in the US and it would take likely months (at least) to get them built and shipped from overseas. I dearly hope China isn't our only source, or we're in a world of hurt even in severe storms, tornadoes, hurricanes, aging equipment failures, etc.
EMICT
Veteran Member
His last statement in this video I believe says it all... "If there are large numbers (pt's with pneumonia), we won't be able to treat them all".
GammaRat
Veteran Member
And that's when the case/fatality rate skyrockets
EMICT
Veteran Member
... and, if you're like China, those don't get reported as a part of the nCoV outbreak.
Samuel Adams
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In other places, and at other times, I too have experienced otherwise sociable and functional locals, who also happen to possess employment in some governmental fashion or another, go all lofty, nearly unapproachable bureaucrat on me in what I thought were overblown episodes of Exclusive Club mentality self-importance.
I got the unmistakable sense of superiority of the Club members versus the idiot masses, and I contained my nearly explosive disgust at the hypocrisy fairly well, I thought, at the time.
Don’t know how many more times I’ll have that restraint left in me.
The gap grows wider and the patience thinner...in the broader sense.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
It would be helpful if we knew just what state you are in.
(and then we can look / see if any testing / confirmation of potential cases have been reported there).
THAT could be VERY enlightening.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
And when this unrest comes---
folks, HERE is a REAL scenario for that "Martial Law" you've all been talking about.
As for "not having enough soldiers" --- well, add in ALL LE personnel, all National Guard--even all private security guards, HIRED for this purpose---
And a terrified population that WANTS order, WANTS "fixes"---
And remember how EASY it was, for the authorities to SHUT DOWN BOSTON after the bomb attack there?
This is a PERFECT opportunity for the power-grabbers....
if you want to go into REALLY woo territory---imagine (God Forbid) if DJT got it--and then the Damocrats say that "in this national crisis, we MUST have stable leadership"--so boom out the window goes the Constitutional guidelines re Presidential succession (why not? What part of the Constitution have they obeyed so far? They have RAPED the Constitution, for their own ends) and onto the scene walks the strongest "I'm the big boss here" who fights his'/her way to the top of the liberal pile....
Trivium Pursuit
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Thailand claims coronavirus break-through: Patient now 'disease-free'
Medics in Thailand tested the drug mix on a patient in a 'serious condition' with the disease and within 48 hours they were declared disease-free. The drugs are normally used for HIV and influenza treatment.www.dailymail.co.uk
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Well, yeah--lucky cuss lived through it.
Not EVERYONE who is getting this DIES---
But isn't the death-rate of those who DO get it, something like 33%?
Agree with this!!