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naegling62

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As far as Geert is concerned, if you have been following from the beginning we all know he is not anti vax. Geert is anti vaccination during a pandemic. He has never been anti mRNA vax as far as I can remember. His whole approach has been forced evolution by imperfect vaccines during the pandemic gets us a monster virus.
 
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Heliobas Disciple

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As far as Geert is concerned, if you have been following from the beginning we all know he is not anti vax. Geert is anti vaccination during a pandemic. He has never been anti mRNA vax as far as I can remember. His whole approach has been forced evolution by imperfect vaccines during the pandemic gets us a monster virus.
Of course. But he has always deflected when asked about the MRNA, and stayed focused ONLY on the danger of vaccinating into a pandemic. Which is weird, considering we're just finding out now, after 2 years, that he's the one who apparently did 85% of the studies on mammals and MRNA and all the mammals supposedly died. (according to and if you believe Steve Lamb's substack). Why not go there? Why stay away from that part of the argument when he's the most qualified one out there to address it? That's my question...

HD
 

Heliobas Disciple

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Cases are down 78% in Jan from Dec. Deaths are up 65% in the same time period. hmmmm....





WHO counted nearly 20 million new COVID cases in latest month as it shifts from weekly reporting schedule
The World Health Organization is monitoring four omicron subvariants, including the one that is dominant in the U.S.

By Ciara Linnane
Published: Feb. 2, 2023 at 11:16 a.m. ET


The World Health Organization said nearly 20 million new COVID cases were recorded in the 28 days through Jan. 29, down 78% from the previous 28 days.

The WHO counted more than 114,000 deaths in the period, up 65% from the previous one.

The agency is switching to a 28-day interval to smooth out weekly fluctuations in cases and deaths, but it continues to caution that a reduction in testing and delays in reporting in many countries are distorting the numbers.

“Current trends in reported COVID-19 cases are underestimates of the true number of global infections and reinfections as shown by prevalence surveys,” the WHO said in its weekly epidemiological update.

The WHO is now prioritizing four omicron descendent lineages, including XBB.1.5, which is dominant in the U.S., according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The other three are BF.7, BQ.1 and BA.2.75, along with their sublineages. These are currently the ones showing a growth-rate advantage in some countries compared with other circulating variants.

U.S. cases are still declining. The seven-day average of new cases stood at 41,771 on Wednesday, according to a New York Times tracker. That’s down 23% from two weeks ago.

The daily average for hospitalizations was down 22% at 31,593. The average for deaths was 453, down 6% from two weeks ago, but still an undesirably high number heading into the third year of the pandemic and ahead of President Joe Biden’s plan to end the twin COVID emergencies on May 11.
 

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I saw the tweets Igor is referring to as originally posted by Chris Turnbull's twitter and was just about to post them. There were additional tweets in that thread posted below it, I'll post them now. will discuss in next post.




View: https://twitter.com/EnemyInAState/status/1622028604807725062


Chris Turnbull @EnemyInAState
7:25 PM · Feb 4, 2023


Dramatic near 2x higher deaths in area of Australia has new variant: very high deaths BUT very low cases???

Something strange going on??

h/t @Mike_Honey_


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XBF variant has been highest in Victoria area of Australia since November: however, they've also had very low cases: but very high deaths:

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Cases over all pretty low in Victoria: but the deaths MUCH HIGHER since XBF has been widely circulating:

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Victoria has had about 1/3rd LESS cases than SA, but nearly 2x deaths? Erm...really?

XBF has a significant growth advantage and is the dominant variant in Victoria now: and appears to be taking over in the rest of the country too:

Also it's picking up in other countries too

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Heliobas Disciple

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Discussing the above tweets, and the last article I posted last night and adding some info that really peaked my interest from Florida's bi-weekly covid report. Unlike Igor, however, I don't think this is the Geert variant as originally predicted by Geert (but could be a variant that Geert didn't expect that is also deadly, just not in the lower lungs as he expected to see it, as previously discussed here a few days ago).


Let's get this out of the way first. Death's have always followed infections by a few weeks. So you'd see a peak in cases, and then the deaths would start to happen a week or two later. You figure, the person gets sick, tests positive, doesn't get better, goes to the hospital and dies and that takes about a week or two, or during the original Wuhan outbreak could be a month later, after being on a vent, etc. Then you can add another week or two to be reported. So you won't see an increase in cases and an increase in deaths without a lag.

Now that that's out of the way, I think what we're seeing now is different.

For example look at the charts above. Victoria had a huge increase in cases in late December, then cases went up and down, but the deaths have been steadily increasing with the most cases in Feb. That's too long after the surge in late Dec to be attributed to that surge.

Now scroll back up and look at the article I posted last night with the WHO figures. As I pointed out before I posted the article: Cases are down 78% in Jan from Dec. Deaths are up 65% in the same time period. That's just weird. Keep in mind - cases go down by a huge amount, but deaths aren't only staying the same (which would be bad) - they are going UP in the same time period. This seems to correspond with what's happening in Victoria Australia.

Now for what's happening in Florida. Florida puts out a bi-weekly report of covid info. It does not report what happened every two weeks though, they just skip a week and report on what happened the previous week, skip the next week's report, and then report on the next week. (You have to look at the cumulative numbers to figure out what happened the week the data was missing) Not important, just want everyone to understand what they are seeing date wise! Another thing to know is Deaths on this chart are in fact the deaths that happened that week - (NOT the deaths reported to the health dept that week if they happened further back than that specific week, because deaths trickle in for previous weeks and FL is tricky and tries to bury that data. If the person died that week, it's reported there. If they died a previous week but it's just showing up at the health dept that week, they wouldn't report it here, you only found those numbers in the Cumulative figure by subtracting from the previous week). For instances between the first two images I am going to post cumulative deaths as reported over two weeks went up by 751. They report only 47 deaths that week, not 751 over two weeks (the number trickling in to the health dept from all the lags in reporting deaths). Again, not my point, a good point for another day but not what I want you to see.

Here's what I noticed that raised my eyebrows even before I say Chris Turnbull's tweets. And this is happening RIGHT HERE IN FLORIDA. While Total cases for the week are going down, the Deaths for the weeks are going up. With huge differences, just like the WHO report. First week in January that they reported just for that week - 18 deaths with 31,633 cases. Next week they report just for that week - 47 deaths with 21,949 cases. Then this week 69 deaths with 18,819 cases. Deaths are jumping as cases are going down. Could be a lag in how long it took the people to die, but keep in mind this is over 6 weeks, not 3 weeks because it's every week that they release the report. hmmmmm ???? [We can't really know how large an increase this really is for another month when the cumulative numbers come in at the end of February and early March for January. Right now the cumulative numbers are pretty consistent but they are reporting for December - not January]

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Heliobas Disciple

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Back to Geert. I went back and listened to what I think was his first video interview after he contacted the WHO with his warning letter, and it was with Dr. McMillan on March 16 2021.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAtg85QEKGk
42 min 22 sec



This is how he described his work when asked about his background. I think 'educating the immune system in ways more efficient that conventional vaccines' IS a roundabout way of saying he was working with MRNA. ????? Opinions??? Yes? No? What do you all think?

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Q: "You are someone who is in the vaccine development business so to speak. What has that background been like?"

A: "Well, I have a background, essentially, in as far as the vaccines are concerned, in industry as well as the not for profit sectors. So I have been working with Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, GAVI, especially concentrating on vaccines for global health. And I've also been working with several different companies, vaccine companies developing of course essentially prophylactic vaccines and my main focus of interest has always been in fact the design of vaccines. So the concept how can we educate the immune system in ways that are to some extent more efficient that we do right now with our conventional vaccines."
 

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Florida Seeks to Ban Vaccine Discrimination
by Dan M. Berger
February 4, 2023

Florida legislators are considering House and Senate civil rights bills that protect residents from discrimination based on their vaccine or immunity status.

The protection would extend to people concerning all vaccines, not just the increasingly controversial COVID shots. Senate Bill 222, sponsored by Sen. Joe Gruters (R-Fla.), and House Bill 305, sponsored by Rep. Webster Barnaby (R-Fla.), are identical. This simplifies their becoming law if both pass, Mo van Hoek of Health Freedom Florida, the group pushing the bill’s adoption, told The Epoch Times.

Van Hoek said the bills would also protect Floridians’ vaccine or immunity status from being shared with the federal government’s tracking database. The state created a database to that effect in 2019, before the pandemic, and later had to share it with the federal government to receive its allotment of COVID vaccines, she said.

“This isn’t a good bill, it’s a great bill,” van Hoek said.

The bill would extend and make permanent protections begun in 2021 when the legislature, in a special session, passed temporary protections. Van Hoek said the law will sunset on June 30, 2023, necessitating new protections.

The 2021 law wasn’t tough enough, she said. It had originally been more comprehensive and didn’t pass in March 2021. She said the ban on vaccine passports was taken from it and attached to another bill that passed a couple of months later.

“It had a good impact. It put Governor [Ron] DeSantis on the global map of creating that type of protection for people,” she said.

But it had a significant loophole. While companies were forbidden to fire unvaccinated employees, they were allowed to set vaccination policies and could use those to force out noncompliant employees, she said.

Nick Caturano, a Disney World employee, is one of those who got such treatment.

“At Disney (if you weren’t vaccinated), you had to wear an N95 mask with a warning sign and face shield,” Caturano of Kissimmee told The Epoch Times. “The goal was to make your life as difficult as possible. I couldn’t have lunch with everyone. I had to eat behind the break shack.

“The first bill told them they couldn’t fire people, but they could set policies. They could still test me, and discriminate against me by making me wear things no one else was wearing, by forcing me to stay away from other people.

“There was no appetite to make a strong, clean bill at the time. I’m grateful for DeSantis, that he was willing to move forward, but this is politics,” Caturano said. “You have to have everyone on board. At the time, the legislators were not willing to risk political capital by doing this.”

Caturano still works at Disney and has for 18 years. He’s suing the company for discrimination. He said they changed their policies and quit isolating him when the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) dropped its mask requirements.

During the time, though, he felt the heat of his ostracism.


‘Pandemic of the Unvaccinated’

“It was the pandemic of the unvaccinated. We were the vectors of disease. We all got attacked. People attacked me, spoke down to me, and told me I was responsible for killing people.” He said that many objections to the jab are now being found to be true.

Health Freedom has set up a website called Vaxbully.com to gather stories of others like Caturano who have suffered such discrimination.

Van Hoek said the site has received more than a thousand submissions so far. Bill supporters will use them, she said, to convince legislators the problem is real. They’ve heard from people like a medical student who couldn’t do hospital rotations without a COVID shot and a nursing student who couldn’t take final exams without one.

The nursing student, identified only as T.B. of Jacksonville in a copy sent to The Epoch Times, talked about his experience at a state college:

“There was not a single term in which I had confidence that my next term was guaranteed,” T.B. wrote. “For each new term, I was sent correspondence warning me that my continuing education was in jeopardy based on my vaccination status. A few courageous and understanding professors went to great lengths, in opposition to the administration, to help me finish. I persevered and stuck to my ethical and religious beliefs and am now gainfully employed as a nurse. My wife, also a nurse, was threatened with termination from (a large health care organization) nearly weekly for the same reasons. These same institutions that promote evidence-based medicine proved negligent in this area by trying to force an experimental medical procedure on their own people, then reacted in shocked innocence when rebuffed. Shame on them!”

M.B. of Ruskin wrote:

“As an employee of the federal government, I was bullied to take the jab. They threatened my job if I did not comply. I tried to request a religious exemption and they ignored it. I was ‘othered’ and not allowed to go into the office. At another point, they tried to force me to take a COVID test, which again I refused and asked for a religious exemption. Again they ignored it. At one point I was told I need to wear a mask but those that got the jab did not have to. I am a combat veteran and never expected to experience this kind of tyranny from my own government. This experience has taken a toll on my mental health and well-being. Although I am allowed the same freedoms as my coworkers, I sometimes worry they will come back around to bully me into taking the jab.”


Vaccine Requirements

Van Hoek said a pregnant Jupiter woman contacted her, looking for a pediatrician who wouldn’t require the baby to have shots.

“I made some phone calls,” van Hoek said. “I called every pediatrician’s office in Jupiter, and not one of them would allow a baby accepted as a patient unless they adhered to the CDC’s vaccine schedule. I called 11 pediatricians.”

Van Hoek’s interest in the issue predates the COVID pandemic. Her son Jan, now 16, was disabled by a series of strokes 13 years ago that she says were caused by his childhood vaccinations. He requires round-the-clock caregivers now. She has never had a vaccination, van Hoek said.

She said the bill would not change the status of childhood vaccinations required for children to enter schools. Parents can already get their children exempted for religious or medical reasons, and van Hoek said the existing exemption system adequately protects vaccine dissenters. The religious exemption “is extremely flexible,” she said, and can be obtained by the parent submitting the child’s name and birthdate. The medical exemption requires the completion of Form 680 by the child’s doctor.

She said she thinks childhood immunization shouldn’t be required of anyone but respects the rights of parents to make their own choices.

“But no one should force anyone to take something when the side effects include death, stroke, and seizure,” all effects downplayed in warnings about vaccines, van Hoek said. “Everyone has a different risk-benefit ratio. They need to determine it for their own selves.”

She questions whether childhood vaccines have been adequately tested for safety in combination with each other. Children are now required to take 72 of them; COVID shots would add another 18.

Van Hoek predicts the nation’s growing awareness of problems with the COVID vaccines—the side effects, the suppression of information, and their limited effectiveness—will prompt a reexamination of extensive childhood vaccination schedules.

And she thinks it will provide the impetus to get this bill passed. Republicans have supermajorities in both houses of the state legislature. “This will create true medical freedom,” van Hoek said. “If they’re 100 percent for freedom, they should get behind it. It creates standard protection, across the board, for every Floridian.”
 

Zoner

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Discussing the above tweets, and the last article I posted last night and adding some info that really peaked my interest from Florida's bi-weekly covid report. Unlike Igor, however, I don't think this is the Geert variant as originally predicted by Geert (but could be a variant that Geert didn't expect that is also deadly, just not in the lower lungs as he expected to see it, as previously discussed here a few days ago).


Let's get this out of the way first. Death's have always followed infections by a few weeks. So you'd see a peak in cases, and then the deaths would start to happen a week or two later. You figure, the person gets sick, tests positive, doesn't get better, goes to the hospital and dies and that takes about a week or two, or during the original Wuhan outbreak could be a month later, after being on a vent, etc. Then you can add another week or two to be reported. So you won't see an increase in cases and an increase in deaths without a lag.

Now that that's out of the way, I think what we're seeing now is different.

For example look at the charts above. Victoria had a huge increase in cases in late December, then cases went up and down, but the deaths have been steadily increasing with the most cases in Feb. That's too long after the surge in late Dec to be attributed to that surge.

Now scroll back up and look at the article I posted last night with the WHO figures. As I pointed out before I posted the article: Cases are down 78% in Jan from Dec. Deaths are up 65% in the same time period. That's just weird. Keep in mind - cases go down by a huge amount, but deaths aren't only staying the same (which would be bad) - they are going UP in the same time period. This seems to correspond with what's happening in Victoria Australia.

Now for what's happening in Florida. Florida puts out a bi-weekly report of covid info. It does not report what happened every two weeks though, they just skip a week and report on what happened the previous week, skip the next week's report, and then report on the next week. (You have to look at the cumulative numbers to figure out what happened the week the data was missing) Not important, just want everyone to understand what they are seeing date wise! Another thing to know is Deaths on this chart are in fact the deaths that happened that week - (NOT the deaths reported to the health dept that week if they happened further back than that specific week, because deaths trickle in for previous weeks and FL is tricky and tries to bury that data. If the person died that week, it's reported there. If they died a previous week but it's just showing up at the health dept that week, they wouldn't report it here, you only found those numbers in the Cumulative figure by subtracting from the previous week). For instances between the first two images I am going to post cumulative deaths as reported over two weeks went up by 751. They report only 47 deaths that week, not 751 over two weeks (the number trickling in to the health dept from all the lags in reporting deaths). Again, not my point, a good point for another day but not what I want you to see.

Here's what I noticed that raised my eyebrows even before I say Chris Turnbull's tweets. And this is happening RIGHT HERE IN FLORIDA. While Total cases for the week are going down, the Deaths for the weeks are going up. With huge differences, just like the WHO report. First week in January that they reported just for that week - 18 deaths with 31,633 cases. Next week they report just for that week - 47 deaths with 21,949 cases. Then this week 69 deaths with 18,819 cases. Deaths are jumping as cases are going down. Could be a lag in how long it took the people to die, but keep in mind this is over 6 weeks, not 3 weeks because it's every week that they release the report. hmmmmm ???? [We can't really know how large an increase this really is for another month when the cumulative numbers come in at the end of February and early March for January. Right now the cumulative numbers are pretty consistent but they are reporting for December - not January]

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Your comments are so helpful in understanding what is going on. Even though this may not be the variant we are looking for it’s still a great cause for alarm.
Geert in his most recent interview seems to expect this variant he is expecting, very very soon. so maybe this variant in Victoria will end up in the lower lung.

None of this is good and thanks for your reporting HD
 

Zoner

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Back to Geert. I went back and listened to what I think was his first video interview after he contacted the WHO with his warning letter, and it was with Dr. McMillan on March 16 2021.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAtg85QEKGk
42 min 22 sec



This is how he described his work when asked about his background. I think 'educating the immune system in ways more efficient that conventional vaccines' IS a roundabout way of saying he was working with MRNA. ????? Opinions??? Yes? No? What do you all think?

~~~~~~~~~


Q: "You are someone who is in the vaccine development business so to speak. What has that background been like?"

A: "Well, I have a background, essentially, in as far as the vaccines are concerned, in industry as well as the not for profit sectors. So I have been working with Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, GAVI, especially concentrating on vaccines for global health. And I've also been working with several different companies, vaccine companies developing of course essentially prophylactic vaccines and my main focus of interest has always been in fact the design of vaccines. So the concept how can we educate the immune system in ways that are to some extent more efficient that we do right now with our conventional vaccines."
I think you’re right HD. He didn’t mention mRNA but that’s what he was talking about. Great find ...thank you.
 

Zoner

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Back to Geert. I went back and listened to what I think was his first video interview after he contacted the WHO with his warning letter, and it was with Dr. McMillan on March 16 2021.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAtg85QEKGk
42 min 22 sec



This is how he described his work when asked about his background. I think 'educating the immune system in ways more efficient that conventional vaccines' IS a roundabout way of saying he was working with MRNA. ????? Opinions??? Yes? No? What do you all think?

~~~~~~~~~


Q: "You are someone who is in the vaccine development business so to speak. What has that background been like?"

A: "Well, I have a background, essentially, in as far as the vaccines are concerned, in industry as well as the not for profit sectors. So I have been working with Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, GAVI, especially concentrating on vaccines for global health. And I've also been working with several different companies, vaccine companies developing of course essentially prophylactic vaccines and my main focus of interest has always been in fact the design of vaccines. So the concept how can we educate the immune system in ways that are to some extent more efficient that we do right now with our conventional vaccines."
HD you need your own substack. You are that good with what’s going on with COVID et al.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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HD you need your own substack. You are that good with what’s going on with COVID et al.
I love substack, it's a really great resource but TB is really my only hangout... I don't know how many are reading this thread but I feel I am doing what I can sharing to those with eyes to see and ears to hear whatever I am learning from reading all these articles and watching the videos.

HD
 

Zoner

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I love substack, it's a really great resource but TB is really my only hangout... I don't know how many are reading this thread but I feel I am doing what I can sharing to those with eyes to see and ears to hear whatever I am learning from reading all these articles and watching the videos.

HD
Yeah I wonder how many from this forum read this thread.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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NYC ending COVID-19 vaccination mandate for city employees
By KAREN MATTHEWS
today

NEW YORK (AP) — New York City, which once had the nation’s strictest workplace vaccination rules for COVID-19, is ending one of its last such mandates, saying it will no longer require the shots for municipal employees including police officers, firefighters and teachers.

The vaccine mandate, which led to the firing of hundreds of city workers who declined to get the shots, will end Friday, Mayor Eric Adams announced Monday.

Adams, a Democrat, said that with more than 96% of city employees and more than 80% of city residents having received their initial vaccine series, “this is the right moment for this decision.”

City Health Commissioner Dr. Ashwin Vasan said, “It’s clear these mandates saved lives and were absolutely necessary to meet the moment. We’re grateful that we can now, as we leave the emergency phase of the pandemic, modify more of the rules that have gotten us to this point.”

The vaccination mandate for city employees was one of the last COVID-19 measures still in place in New York City. The city ended its vaccine requirement for employees of private businesses in November 2022, and masks are now optional in most public spaces including subways and buses.

New York City’s private-sector mandate forced All-Star point guard and vaccine skeptic Kyrie Irving to miss most of the Brooklyn Nets home games last season.

Irving will no longer be affected by any changes in New York City’s coronavirus policies. The Nets and the Dallas Mavericks announced a deal Monday that will send Irving to Dallas.

New York City’s municipal work force of about 337,000 was one of the largest groups of government employees in the United States to be affected by a COVID-19 vaccine mandate.

The vaccine requirement for the 1.3 million-strong U.S. military was lifted in December under an $858 billion defense spending bill passed by Congress and signed into law by President Joe Biden.

The approximately 1,780 New York City workers who have been terminated for failing to comply with the municipal employee vaccination requirement will not get their jobs back automatically but can apply for positions with their former agencies, city officials said.

Unions representing some of the fired workers planned a news conference later Monday to demand their reinstatement with back pay.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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Vaccine litigation lingers after lifting of military mandate
By KEVIN McGILL
yesterday

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Federal appeals court judges closely questioned a Biden administration attorney Monday on the consequences military personnel might face for refusing COVID-19 vaccinations, even though Biden’s vaccine mandate for military personnel has been rescinded.

Lawyers for a group of Navy SEALS and other Navy personnel who refuse to be vaccinated for religious reasons told a 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel that federal court injunctions against the mandate are still needed, in part because decisions on deployments and assignments can still be made based on vaccination status.

“Is there any assurance on the record, that there will be no deployment decisions based on vaccination?” Judge James Ho, one of three judges hearing the case asked Department of Justice lawyer Casen Ross.

Ross said such questions were speculative and not at issue in the case before the court. Ho and Judge Kyle Duncan noted that the administration had only reluctantly ended the military mandate after December congressional action, but Ross assured the panel that there are no plans to bring back the requirement.

“Given the prevailing public health guidelines and the state of the virus, there is currently no intention to require universal vaccination of all service members,” Ross said.

The Pentagon formally dropped the requirement in January following a December vote in Congress to end the mandate. However, vaccine opponents note that commanders can still make decisions on how and whether to deploy unvaccinated troops, under a memo signed last month by Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin.

Military leaders have long argued that to maintain unit health and troop readiness, troops have for decades been required to get as many as 17 vaccines, particularly those who are deploying overseas.

Attorneys for the unvaccinated Navy personnel argued in briefs to the 5th Circuit that Austin’s memo and other Defense Department actions show that the Navy still intends to treat unvaccinated personnel “like second-class citizens because of their religious beliefs.”

Government lawyers argue the policy is in line with “well-established principles of judicial noninterference with core military decision making,” in their briefs.

The Navy SEALS filed their lawsuit in November of 2021, describing what they saw as a cumbersome 50-step process to obtain religious exemptions for the COVID-19 vaccine. Their lawyers have called a “sham” with applications being “categorically denied.”

The Defense Department denied the process was onerous and said the Navy has a compelling interest in requiring vaccinations for personnel who often operate for long periods in “confined spaces that are ripe breeding grounds for respiratory illnesses.”

On Monday, Heather Hacker, an attorney for the Navy personnel, said the situation could be seen as worse now for them now that the older mandate policy has been rescinded, because current policy does not provide for a sailor’s religious objections to the vaccine to be considered when deployment or assignment decisions are made.

“We’re going from a 50-step process to a zero-step process?” Duncan asked.

“Exactly, your honor,” Hacker replied.

In January of last year, a federal judge in Texas barred the Navy from taking any action against the Navy plaintiffs for being unvaccinated. A 5th Circuit panel rejected the Biden administration’s request to block the judge’s order.

But the administration won at least a temporary, partial victory last March when the Supreme Court approved a “partial stay.” The order allowed the Navy to consider the sailors’ vaccination status in making decisions on deployment, assignment and other operational issues while the case plays out.

There was no indication when the judges would rule. Monday’s arguments were heard by Duncan and Ho, both nominated to the 5th Circuit by President Donald Trump, and James Graves, a nominee of President Barack Obama.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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Ancient Remedies to Relieve Symptoms Caused by COVID-19
Amber Yang, JoJo Novaes
Feb 6, 2023

COVID-19 has various manifestations such as respiratory, cardiovascular, gastrointestinal, renal, neurological, and so forth. During COVID-19 outbreaks, antipyretic analgesics, antibiotics, respiratory tract infection medication, and painkillers may be sold out or hard to find.

Recently, disposable pants for incontinence have become an item that people rush to buy in China. Jonathan Liu, a professor at a public college in Canada, suggested that traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) remedies can help to relieve the symptoms of COVID-19 and incontinence.

Generic Drugs

In response to shortages of antipyretic analgesics, antibiotics, respiratory tract infection medication, and other medicine, Liu shared a generic drug list for the public’s reference. He suggested patients take medicine with caution and consult medical advice.

1.Antipyretic analgesics
Acetaminophen, such as Tylenol (for pain and fever reduction) is commonly used. Aspirin, ibuprofen, and naproxen may also be used.

2. Antibiotics
Liu said that COVID-19 is a virus, and antibiotics do not work on viruses. Unless the patients are seriously ill or there is a complication of bacterial infection which requires antibiotics, otherwise, patients with mild symptoms do not need antibiotics.

3. Respiratory tract infection medication
This type of medication treats cough and improves respiratory function. But for patients of mild cases, Liu emphasized that antitussives and expectorants are not necessary. He said that the cough after the fever has subsided is a protective reflex to remove secretions and viral residues from the respiratory tract and should not be suppressed. If the cough lingers after one week, some medication may then be needed.


Easing COVID Symptoms Using Traditional Chinese Medicine

Liu suggested using TCM ingredients and remedies that can be found in Asian and natural food stores as well as online. They are inexpensive, convenient, and can effectively relieve symptoms.

1. Early stage of infection
The recipe of ‘ginger and scallion for triggering perspiration’ should be followed as soon as possible for patients with symptoms of fever, anhidrosis (lack of sweating), and body aches.

Make tea by boiling seven pieces of ginger, and three pieces of sliced scallion. Drink the tea until sweating starts. Use this recipe for inducing perspiration from the first day the symptoms occur.

2. During a fever
Once you enter the stage of a fever, feeling cold, and muscle fatigue you can take Pueraria root decoction. Because Pueraria root decoction contains Pueraria roots and ephedra, it is effective for inducing sweating, and it is particularly suitable for those with general soreness and pain without sweating.

Use ephedra decoction if you still cannot sweat, with a reduced dosage for children. In addition, since ephedra increases blood pressure and causes rapid heartbeat, elderly with high blood pressure and heart disease should not take ephedra. Instead, they should take Ginseng Toxin-Vanquishing Powder. If the patient is seriously ill, it is best to go to the hospital.

The above decoctions and powder are available online and in natural food and Asian markets. Follow the recommended dosage on the label.

3. Recurrent fever
Take “Minor Bupleurum Formula” decoction as directed on the product label. (Available online and in Asian and natural food stores.)

4. Muscle fatigue
Viruses attack the body during fever and lead to muscle fatigue. After bringing down the fever, muscle fatigue can be relieved by maintaining a balanced diet and with proper rest.

5. Visit a TCM practitioner for a sore throat that feels like “swallowing razor blades.”
Liu said that having a TCM practitioner release three to five drops of blood at Shangyang point (LI 1) on the finger, massaging, or performing acupuncture at Hegu point (LI 4), Dazhui point (DU14), and Ashi point can relieve sore throat.

In particular, Liu recommended moxibustion at Dazhui point to the elderly, especially those with underlying health problems. Moxibustion is a format of heat treatment, which works by burning the dry plant ingredients on the skin or very close to the skin surface.

The TCM term “acupuncture point” refers to points located on the body’s “meridian system,” most of t which are located where many nerve endings and blood vessels converge. TCM stimulates the respective “acupuncture points” using acupuncture, massage, and so on, to strengthen qi (vital energy) and blood circulation, and overcome blockages of the meridian system. Hence the symptoms of the diseases can be cured.

TCM discovered the meridian system in the human body is responsible for transporting “qi” and blood throughout the body. They are the basic substances constituting the human body and maintaining life activities in the human body. Qi and blood circulate to maintain the balance and stability of various tissues and organs in the human body.


Solutions for Incontinence

COVID-19 can directly or indirectly damage neurons by invading the central nervous system and peripheral nervous system. Studies have already shown that contracting COVID-19 may cause bladder and bowel incontinence by inducing inflammation and demyelination in the pudendal nerve.

The new wave of incontinence among COVID-19 patients (in China) raises the question of whether Omicron, which originally attacked only the upper respiratory tract, has mutated and is now attacking the digestive tract.

Liu believes that incontinence in young people without consciousness impairment may be a combination of other bacterial or viral infections of the digestive tract. Generally, incontinence when consciousness is present means that kidney function is affected or that the nervous system is damaged.

Liu said that to nourish the kidney for resuming the functions of regulating bowel movement and urination, moxibustion by a TCM practitioner can be performed at Guanyuan point (RN 4), Shuidao point (ST 28), Zhongji points (RN 3), which are located near the navel, and Shenshu point (BL23)and Zhibian point (UB54) at the back. The practitioner may also prescribe Hoelen & Peony Combination decoction.

Liu reminded us that vaccination only stimulates one’s immunity. Maintaining a strong immune system requires a disciplined lifestyle including getting to bed early, eating healthy food in moderate portions, maintaining a positive attitude, and even taking care of others, all of which can help make you healthier.

The above decoctions and powder are available online and in natural food and Asian markets.
 

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SARS-CoV-2 Variants Updates: New More Immune Evasive And Transmissible XBB.1.9.1 Variant Spreads In Indonesia, South East Asia And Europe
Thailand Medical News
Feb 07, 2023

A newly emerged sub-lineage of the XBB recombinant variant has emerged and is spreading exponentially in Indonesia and elsewhere in South East Asia and now even in the United Kingdom and parts of Europe.

The XBB.1.9.1 sub-lineage spots the spike F486P mutation, similarly to its twin XBB.1.9.2.



The XBB.1.9.1 also spots the mutations: C11956T


The advantage that XBB.1.9.1 has comes possibly from the unique mutations it has in the accessory proteins such as Orf1a:G1819S, Orf1a:T4175I and also Orf9b:I5T (this mutation has in the past been found in multiple chronically ill related samples with BA.5.2 and BQ.1 sub-lineages)

Preliminary data is indicating that the XBB.1.9.1 has a better growth advantage over the XBB.1.5 and other predominant variants in circulation including XBF (in Australia and parts of Europe), CH.1.1, BQ.1.1 etc and even over the various East Asian variants (ie the various BF.7, BF.5 and BA.5.2 sub-lineages)

View: https://twitter.com/TWenseleers/status/1622580939107758080


In Indonesia, the XBB.1.9.1 sub-lineage has reached almost 50 percent of all sequences.

View: https://twitter.com/TWenseleers/status/1622580933445447681


It also seems to be taking off in the United Kingdom that is now seeing a new onslaught by a cluster of various new SARS-CoV-2 Variants.

View: https://twitter.com/TWenseleers/status/1622580936402509824



View: https://twitter.com/RajlabN/status/1621375102993502212


It is also found in Germany.

View: https://twitter.com/icestormfr/status/1622546385324150784


The XBB.1.9.1 is also now found in many countries across the world.


The XBB.1.9.1 is more immune evasive than even the XBB.1.5 variant and has better viral fitness than the XBB.1.5 variant.

View: https://twitter.com/DeltaOmicr/status/1619618254896635904/photo/1


To date, there is no data to show as to whether the XBB.1.9.1 sub-lineage is causing disease severity or is more pathogenic.

In countries like Indonesia, there is very little testing coupled with the fact that reported COVID-19 statistics are not the least reliable.

In fact, updated statistics are only focusing on vaccine rates and it seems that there is literally no new COVID-19 cases or deaths although genomic sequences being uploaded show otherwise!

View: https://twitter.com/corona19_stats/status/1622677518674235403



View: https://twitter.com/TWenseleers/status/1622580933445447681/photo/1


View: https://twitter.com/TWenseleers/status/1622586077188857858/photo/1


Local Indonesian news agencies are more interested in promoting news coverages that 99 percent of the population has SARS-CoV-2 antibodies which in reality have no bearing with the new more immune evasive strains circulating around!

View: https://twitter.com/antaranews/status/1621498518925119488


The XBB.1.9.1 sub-lineage is expected to supersede the XBB.1.5 variant in coming weeks and while there is no clear indication about the effects of this new variant in terms of disease severity and hospitalization and the effect of boosters on this new variant, all those in the vulnerable groups ie the old, obese, those with existing comorbidities such as diabetes, hypertension, heart and kidney issues, the immunocompromised and also those with certain genetic makeups still need to take safety precautions try to self-isolate.
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Heliobas Disciple

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I didn't know it was up to 80, but when it was in the tens (not 80's) we posted about it on this thread. I haven't seen the 80 number come up. Interesting... (and really sad if true).

HD

Did some googling.

I found two articles debunking the claim, but if you follow the links in the articles you can find the original claims and decide for yourself. Because not everyone believes fact checkers these days...hmm..


 

psychgirl

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I think you’re right HD. He didn’t mention mRNA but that’s what he was talking about. Great find ...thank you.
I STILL could just swear he did mention it a very long time ago but I could be thinking about Dr Malone?
 

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Unvaxed Women Are Reporting Agonizing Pain and Menstrual Cramps After Sleeping With Vaxed Husbands

"The Pfizer documents show that women are exposed to it [the mRNA jab] from vaccinated men through sexual intercourse."
Pfizer also acknowledged 20-something different ways its shot sent women's menstrual cycles into disarray:
Dr. Naomi Wolf Details 'The Chamber of Horrors' the Jab Poses to Women's Reproductive Health
Pfizer acknowledges 20-something different ways its shot can send a woman’s menstrual cycle into disarray.

• • •Thread by @VigilantFox on Thread Reader App
 

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Australia to expand rollout of fifth COVID vaccine shot
by Renju Jose
Tue, February 7, 2023, 8:04 PM EST

SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia will roll out a fifth dose of COVID-19 vaccine later this month to all citizens aged 18 and above who have not contracted coronavirus or been vaccinated in the past six months, Health Minister Mark Butler said on Wednesday.

The decision expands eligibility for the booster shot to include about 14 million people, more than half the country's population, who will be offered Omicron variant-specific vaccines from Feb. 20, Butler said.

Only severely immuno-compromised people had been recommended to take a fifth dose until now, the advice being to receive the booster three months after their fourth shot.

Australia, which is among the most heavily vaccinated countries against the coronavirus, has so far administered two vaccine doses to 95% of people above 16. This has helped Australia to keep its COVID numbers relatively low compared with other developed economies.

But there has been a slow uptake of booster shots, with official data showing around 72% having had a third dose and only 44% their fourth one.

Butler said people above 65 years remained at high risk of severe illness and death from the coronavirus and so urged them to take their fifth shot if they are eligible.

The rollout of the fifth shot will help "deal with what inevitably will be the next phase of the next wave of COVID sometime over the course of 2023," Butler said.

The government also has made the fourth dose eligible for all aged 18-29 after Australia's immunisation advisory group updated its recommendations. Only people above 30 or the immuno-compromised group were recommended for a fourth dose previously.
 

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Bivalent COVID Vaccines Perform Worse Against Variant Now Dominant in United States: Studies
Zachary Stieber
Feb 7 2023

The new COVID-19 vaccines don’t work as well against XBB.1.5, the virus variant that’s now dominant in the United States, according to multiple studies.

In one of the papers, researchers found the vaccines boosted neutralizing antibodies, believed to be a measure of protection, but that the antibody levels declined to previous levels within three months.

Compared to the antibody responses to BA.5, the responses to XBB.1.5 were reduced 20-fold.

“Following bivalent mRNA boosting, responses to XBB.1.5 increase but remain low and wane within 3 months back to pre-boost levels. These data suggest that once a year boosters with the current mRNA vaccines may not provide adequate protection for an entire year for those at high risk of complications of COVID-19,” Dr. Dan Barouch, director of the Center for Virology and Vaccine Research at the Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center and a co-author of the preprint study (pdf), told The Epoch Times via email.

The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines both utilize messenger RNA, or mRNA, technology. The updated versions of the vaccines are bivalent, targeting the Wuhan variant and a sublineage of the BA.4 and BA.5 strain. The new versions were cleared as boosters in the fall of 2022 despite no clinical data being available. They are poised to replace the original vaccines.

Other studies have also found that the bivalents induce a better response than the old, monovalent boosters, but that the response is reduced against XBB.1.5 or its parent, XBB, which comes from BA.2 lineages.

Researchers with Pfizer and Pfizer partners, for instance, reported recently that the antibody levels were the lowest against XBB.1.5, and were particularly low among people without evidence of prior infection. Similarly, researchers with the U.S. National Institutes of Health and other institutions concluded (pdf) that “the lowest titers were observed against XBB.1” and researchers with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) detected (pdf) “low activity” against XBB.1. And Japanese scientists also observed a reduction in neutralizing power.

A group of Chinese researchers, who reported evidence that XBB.1.5 can more easily evade protection, said that the circulation of the strain “needs to be closely monitored, and the development of effective neutralizing antibodies and vaccines against XBB.1.5 is urgently needed.”

“Based on its genetic characteristics and growth rate estimates, XBB.1.5 is likely to contribute to increases in case incidence globally. There is moderate-strength evidence for increased risk of transmission and immune escape. From reports by several countries, no early signals of increases in severity have been observed,” the World Health Organization stated in a risk assessment (pdf), though it acknowledged that the low number of cases caused by the strain does not enable a confident assessment of severity.

New York officials claimed in January that XBB.1.5 “may be more likely to infect people who have been vaccinated or already had COVID-19,” later adding that they meant compared to prior variants. When asked for evidence to back up the claim, a spokesperson declined to provide any.


Authorization Revoked as XBB Becomes Dominant

Regulators have not yet altered authorizations or approvals for vaccines, but the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) yanked authorization for Evusheld, a monoclonal antibody treatment, because it said the drug wouldn’t work against XBB.1.5 and other emerging subvariants.

XBB.1.5, an Omicron subvariant like BA.5, was estimated to be behind 66.4 percent of the COVID-19 cases in the United States in the week ending Feb. 4, according to genomic sequencing and other data.

BA.5 was the dominant strain until late 2022, when it was displaced by BQ.1.1 and BQ.1. Those Omicron subvariants make up about a quarter of the cases.

The bivalent vaccines were cleared in part because the vaccines had been performing increasingly worse against Omicron and its subvariants. Regulators chose not to wait for clinical data despite widespread warnings that authorizing the shots without the data would further undermine confidence in the COVID-19 vaccines.

The FDA met with its advisory panel in January but none of the vaccine makers that made presentations during the meeting, including Pfizer and Moderna, presented clinical efficacy data. Officials from the companies alleged that testing data indicated the vaccines work against XBB.


CDC Data

CDC researchers, drawing from testing data, estimated similar vaccine effectiveness (VE) against XBB and BA.5.

For people aged 18 to 49, for instance, the relative effectiveness against symptomatic infection was estimated at 52 percent two to three months after a bivalent booster against the latter and 48 percent against the former.

Relative effectiveness means effectiveness beyond the initial shots, which provide little protection against symptomatic infection.

“‘Generally, VE against symptomatic infection is similar for the two sub lineages and across age groups,” Dr. Ruth Link-Gelles, a CDC researcher and co-author of the report, told the FDA’s advisory panel.

“We’re continuing to monitor this as XBB.1.5 continues to increase nationally,” she added.

Researchers drew from the Increasing Community Access to Testing program, which provides free COVID-19 testing at CBS, Walmart, and other places.
 

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Long COVID News: Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS) And Dysautonomia Are Common Occurrences In Long COVID
Thailand Medical News
Feb 07, 2023

A new clinical update by researchers from Karolinska University Hospital, Stockholm-Sweden and Lund University, Malmö-Sweden reports that autonomic dysfunction and postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS) are common occurrences in Long COVID.

Typically, autonomic dysfunction develops when the nerves of the ANS (autonomic nervous system) are damaged. This condition is called autonomic neuropathy or dysautonomia. Autonomic dysfunction can range from mild to life-threatening as the ANS controls several basic functions including heart rate, body temperature, breathing rate, digestion and sensation. It can affect part of the ANS or the entire ANS. Autonomic dysfunction occurs when the autonomic nervous system, which controls functions responsible for well-being and maintaining balance, does not regulate properly.

Postural tachycardia syndrome (POTS) is an abnormal increase in heart rate that occurs after sitting up or standing. POTS symptoms are often due to a sudden surge in heart rate and the body struggling to pump blood back to the heart quickly enough. POTS happens when the autonomic nervous system doesn't work as it should.

The symptoms of POTS include but are not limited to lightheadedness or dizziness, (occasionally with fainting), difficulty thinking and concentrating (brain fog), fatigue, intolerance of exercise, headache, blurry vision, palpitations, tremor and nausea.

The post-acute sequelae of COVID-19 or Long COVID present major problems for many patients, their physicians and the health-care system. They are unrelated to the severity of the initial infection, are often highly symptomatic and can occur after vaccination.

Many sequelae involve cardiovascular autonomic dysfunction, with postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome in 30% of individuals. Prognosis is unknown, and treatment is still unsatisfactory.

The clinical update was published in the peer reviewed journal: Nature Reviews Cardiology.


In our previous Long COVID News coverages, we had already shown that SARS-CoV-2 infections can lead to cardiovascular autonomic dysfunction in many.


When the COVID-19 pandemic was declared in early 2020, no one anticipated the long-term consequences of the SARS-CoV-2 infections.

Initially, the focus was only on survival from acute infection. However, during mid-2020 emergence of a new group of patients known as post-COVID-19 long-haulers took place.

Many of these individuals reported to be constantly tired, often young or middle-aged women, incapable of work, and had multiple symptoms such as chest pain, exercise intolerance, tachycardia, and heart palpitations.

Numerous physicians, neurologists, and cardiologists indicated some of these symptoms to be ideal for the symptoms of postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS). Additionally, other cardiovascular autonomic dysfunctions like inappropriate sinus tachycardia were also reported.

Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome or POTS is now indicated to be a major phenotype in the new post-acute COVID-19 syndrome that occurs in about 30 percent of highly symptomatic patients. However, other forms of cardiovascular dysautonomia like hypotension or orthostatic intolerance and vasovagal reflex susceptibility, have also been observed.

This clinical update aimed to analyze the post-acute sequelae of COVID-19 that can pose a threat to patients, their doctors, and the healthcare system.

Typically, the confirmation of POTS requires correctly interpreted cardiovascular autonomic testing. There was an increase in chronotropic response of more than 30 beats per minute when standing, as well as chronic fatigue and orthostatic intolerance along with maintained blood pressure. Additionally, other symptoms are also involved, such as sleep disturbances, brain fog, migraine, muscle weakness, and chest pain. This resulted in the referral of patients to various clinical specialties due to confusion regarding diagnosis.

Many recent studies have highlighted the need for more diagnostic vigilance, new therapeutic options, and greater availability of healthcare resources to better understand the place of POTS in the post-COVID-19 landscape.

Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome or POTS and other related conditions have been reported to develop three months post severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection but can also develop following vaccination.

Hence this implies that such factors can trigger an autoimmune response in susceptible individuals.

Additionally, these cardiovascular dysautonomias have been reported to be independent of the severity of the initial infection.

More detailed research is warranted to understand the immunomodulating agent associated with misdirected or overstimulated immune responses. Moreover, research should also focus on identifying genetic or epidemiological markers of increased cardiovascular dysautonomia risk.

Worryingly, the post-COVID-19 cardiovascular autonomic dysfunction can lead not only to a POTS-like pattern but also to blood pressure instability, tachycardia at rest, and local circulatory disorders.

Also, the various symptoms observed in POTS might be due to microvascular dysfunction along with inadequate macrovascular and microvascular responses.

Already a few studies indicated that microvascular dysfunction is an important mechanism of post-COVID-19 complications.

Typically, all such dysautonomic phenotypes can coexist and primarily affect young and middle-aged women. Therefore, phenotyping of POTS in cohorts of patients with post-acute COVID-19 syndrome is required to identify reliable biomarkers and develop effective therapies for the syndrome.
 

psychgirl

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Listen up folks, it cost chump change to get your D3/K2 levels up… :kaid:
Super cheap price to pay for protection. Next time you get your bloodwork, ask for your numbers…
Darn. I just had yearly blood work.
Big blood panels including thyroid and hormonal. I wish I’d asked for vit D
 

psychgirl

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You have to request that Vit D is checked. Mine and DH just came back and Dr. and I were happy. It was 58. Ideal is 26-50. We are in Arizona, sit in the sun every day and take a 5000 unit D3 pill along with K2.
Thays what I thought
You have to ask specifically.
We take a lot of D. I forget the amount of units but there are 5 of them.
DH lays out our vitamins lol.

I’ll have to check with him but it’s what doctor recommended when he had Covid pneumonia and lined up with the suggestions on protocols.
 
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