Zoner
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...except Jennifer Zeng, the poster, was told she died.
Zeng is very credible but folks can believe what they want. I believe it to be true.
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Zeng is very credible but folks can believe what they want. I believe it to be true.
Heliobas Disciple
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That's what I thought, wasn't going to push it. I asked because they had been segregating sick people in a different building and only seeing well patients in the building I went to (annuals, renewals, etc). But they had a sign at the desk if you aren't feeling well please where a mask and I'd say 80% of the people waiting had masks on. So I asked the dr if they still weren't seeing sick people in that building and they said 'correct' so I asked why the waiting room had so many masked people and the answer was they were just being extra careful because they were worried about covid, so that left the opening for me to ask if covid numbers were up and was told, yes, very much so. When I asked about the variant I got a blank kind of stare and assumed they didn't know about it and didn't want to come off as knowing more than they did so dropped it and asked something else right away to change the subject.
I agree, we on this thread know a lot more than the general population and especially those who only get their info from the official CDC and NIH readouts.
HD
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Haven't heard of that until you posted that. Thank you for that info, will look into it.
HD
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Thank you for posting this. I watched a lot of his videos early on in the pandemic, haven't seen him in a while. Looking forward to seeing what he has to say.Dr. Paul Cottrell is on to white lung syndrome. Worth a listen.
Nightmare Talk Ep37 (China White Lung Wave and bad feeling for USA) by Dr. Paul Cottrell
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I didn't watch the video because I didn't want to be haunted by the images (thanks for the warning). There really is no way to know if it's real or fake, it could be that Jennifer who posted it was misled or it could be real...(I don't think Jennifer is posting fake videos on purpose, if it is fake I am going to give her the benefit of the doubt that she was misled). Not saying it's real or fake - I have no way to know. None of us do, we can only form our own opinions.
For example - all the videos we saw in early 2020 of people dropping in the street in China. A lot of people after the fact claimed they were fake and put out by China as a psyop, but it may also be true that the Chinese are the ones who promulgated those rumors that those videos were psyops to cover up how bad it really was and to save face. We can form our opinion on the matter, but we just don't know. We weren't there and we don't know anyone who was there when the videos were taken.
Here's what we do know: China, Russia, NK, and even folks right here in the USA have thousands of people who sit in rooms all day posting to social media whatever those countries are 'selling' to the world. They're called bot farms. They influence everything and they are insidious and invisible. You never know if who you are reading or even involved in a discussion with isn't a bot plant. It's the reality of not being face to face with the people you interact with on line that you don't know in the meat world. Add to that all the fake news we get from the MSM. Add to that 'controlled opposition' - those who get you going who you think are on your side but are actually getting you to focus where they tell you to focus so you won't look elsewhere for the truth.
Bottom line, it's the wild wild west out there and you can't know who or what to trust when you read things on the internet, whether from controlled world wide MSM, and especially when it comes to reports from social media. Unless you are actually there or personally know someone who is actually there you are going to have to use your discernment and your judgment. (ETA:. Probably always has been true for the MSM, but we were too naive to suspect it before all this happened. JFK assassination, moon landing, watergate, vietnam war...etc)
After reading the different articles, find those you trust (for me it's Geert (#1 on my list), Igor Chudov (#2 on my list), Del Bigtree, Dr. McCollough, Carrie Madej, the late Dr. Zelenko, Maria Zeee, RFK Jr, Dr. McMillan, Dr. Haider, Dr. Simone Gold, Dr. Mercola, Steve Bannon, Dr. Alexander, and some other lesser known folks whose substacks I've been posting) (*if a very well known prominent person in the anti-vax movement you expected to see isn't named, I didn't forget him, I left him off) and mostly praying on it.
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HERE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE of why you don't know who you are reading on social media.
sfstandard.com
(fair use applies)
These Doctors Pushed Masking, Covid Lockdowns on Twitter. Turns Out, They Don’t Exist
Written by Matthew Kupfer
Published Dec. 13, 2022 • 2:23pm
Last month, Dr. Robert Honeyman lost their sister to Covid. They wrote about it on Twitter and received dozens of condolences, over 4,000 retweets and 43,000 likes.
Exactly one month later, on Dec. 12, Honeyman wrote that another tragedy had befallen their family.
“Sad to announce that my husband has entered a coma after being in hospital with Covid. The doctor is unsure if he will come out,” they tweeted. “This year has been the toughest of my life losing my sister to this virus. This is the first time in my life I don’t see light at the end of the tunnel.”
Again, the condolences and well-wishes rolled in. But there was a problem: Honeyman wasn’t real.
The transgender “Doctor of Sociology and Feminist studies” with a “keen interest in poetry” who used they/them pronouns was, in fact, a stock photo described on DepositPhotos, a royalty-free image site, as “Smiling happy, handsome latino man outside—headshot portrait.”
Their supposedly comatose husband, Dr. Patrick C. Honeyman, was also fake. His Twitter photo had been stolen from an insurance professional in Wayne, Indiana.
The stock photo used as Dr. Robert Honeyman’s avatar on Twitter.
The photograph used as Dr. Patrick C. Honeyman’s avatar on Twitter.
The two fake doctors, whose accounts urged extreme caution about Covid-19, were part of a network of at least four fake accounts that touted their ties to the LGBTQ+ community, vocally advocated for mask-wearing and social distancing, and dished out criticism to those they felt were not taking the pandemic seriously.
The Honeymans could not be reached for comment, as they do not exist. At publication time, Robert Honeyman’s account was no longer active.
The fake doctors were uncovered by Joshua Gutterman Tranen, a self-described “gay writer” pursuing a master’s of fine arts at Bennington College. He saw Robert Honeyman’s tweet about their husband being in a coma, noticed people he followed also followed them, and thought that they might be part of the LGBTQ+ academic community.
But after 10 minutes of googling, Gutterman Tranen concluded that Robert Honeyman’s photo was a stock image and their biography stretched boundaries of believability: an academic who left no traces on academic websites and had lost two family members to Covid in late 2022, despite masking and distancing.
The character looked like “liberal Mad Libs,” Gutterman Tranen said.
“I’m a self-identified leftist, and I understand that people have a lot of different identities, but it felt concocted in the lab about how many identities and horrible experiences can we put on one person,” he said.
The Standard ran Dr. Robert Honeyman’s Twitter photo through a Google reverse image search and found that it was a widely available stock photo.
Throughout the pandemic, Twitter has been an important, if complicated, platform. Medical experts have used it to speak directly to the public about Covid and to criticize policies that they feel don’t do enough to protect people from the disease.
But Twitter has also been a site of disinformation and provocative claims that are based in fact or scientific knowledge but lack context. As the pandemic has dragged on, governments have lifted Covid restrictions, and people have shed their masks, more of the burden of charting a path in the “new normal” has fallen on individuals. And public-facing experts like UCSF’s Bob Wachter and Monica Gandhi have become important sources of advice.
But as the iconic New Yorker cartoon states, “On the internet, nobody knows you’re a dog”—or a fake doctor, for that matter.
The Honeymans offer one of the most blatant examples of this. It is unclear who created the two doctors, but their bios and personas signpost identities meant to appeal to a certain type of Twitter denizen: liberal, pro-diversity and concerned about Covid. Or meant to provoke the opposite of that type of person.
Both doctors present themselves as members of the LGBTQ+ community. Robert displayed the trans and Ukrainian flags in their Twitter name. Patrick had a rainbow flag in his bio.
Robert wrote openly about suffering from MPX, an infectious disease that caused San Francisco to declare a state of emergency earlier this year and had largely spread among men who have sex with men. “Don’t believe what the media have been sharing. […] it’s a horrible disease that has had me bed ridden,” they tweeted in July. They also claimed to have been the victim of a transphobic attack in October.
Another account associated with the group, Dr. Gerold Fischer, displayed rainbow, trans and Ukrainian flags next to his name and described himself as “an ally for all in the #LGBQT+ Community. #WearAMask.” Fischer’s account has since been taken down.
A fourth account, Dr. Steve “Ste” Ville, who claimed an affiliation with the University of Antwerp, described himself as an “LGBTQ+ Ally” and a “Proud Mask Wearer.”
All four doctors had a few things in common. Three had created their accounts during the pandemic. Fischer’s account dated to 2019, but his earliest visible tweet was from July 2022.
The doctors also frequently interacted with one another. Fischer’s first tweets were, in fact, a retweet, a quote tweet and a response to Robert Honeyman.
Robert Honeyman claimed that Fischer, who said he was suffering from post-Covid brain fog, was “the sharpest individual” they met at university. The two “doctors” sent greetings to each other’s families.
All four accounts urged caution about Covid. They also amplified the voices of other Twitter users calling on the public to mask, vaccinate and socially distance. At times, they criticized policies that they felt undermined pandemic safety and individuals who they believed did not take Covid seriously enough.
But as Twitter users responded to Gutterman Tranen’s thread on the Honeymans, they also discovered the accounts expressing views that appeared implausible.
“Come on china! Stop protesting, I wish we had similar lockdown measures here,” Robert Honeyman wrote in a Nov. 27 tweet.
They also claimed to have been a consultant who helped to the make the character Velma a lesbian in the new Scooby-Doo movie.
The Standard was unable to establish who created the four fake doctors. But perhaps the most alarming aspect of their nonexistence online is that it is also unclear why they were created.
Gutterman Tranen wondered about the motivation behind them.
“Is this someone who is well-intentioned but perhaps has a lot of anxiety about Covid, and this is a way for them to act out those anxieties?” he asked. “Or is this something more nefarious where someone thinks creating accounts like this is a way to point at them and say: ‘Look how crazy the liberals are’?”
As he watches his initial tweet about the Honeymans go viral, Gutterman Tranen is philosophical about the situation. He believes people are responding so strongly to his discovery because we all know that these kinds of accounts exist, but we seldom delve deeply into whether the person tweeting is actually authentic.
“We’ve just accepted that disinformation is an essential part of how Twitter works,” he said
.
But as Twitter users marveled over the four fake doctors, at least one “person” wasn’t having it: Ville.
“Disgusting to see the accusations being thrown my way, it’s truly incredible to see how quick ‘good’ people can switch up on you in the blink of an eye,” he tweeted on Dec. 13, “that age old saying rings true, ‘The one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying.’”
Rage on, Dr. Steve.
These doctors pushed masking, Covid lockdowns on Twitter. Turns out, they don’t exist - The San Francisco Standard
A group of Twitter doctors claimed to be LGBTQ+ allies, pushed extreme Covid caution and told tales of tragedy and loss. The problem: They weren’t real.
sfstandard.com
These Doctors Pushed Masking, Covid Lockdowns on Twitter. Turns Out, They Don’t Exist
Written by Matthew Kupfer
Published Dec. 13, 2022 • 2:23pm
Last month, Dr. Robert Honeyman lost their sister to Covid. They wrote about it on Twitter and received dozens of condolences, over 4,000 retweets and 43,000 likes.
Exactly one month later, on Dec. 12, Honeyman wrote that another tragedy had befallen their family.
“Sad to announce that my husband has entered a coma after being in hospital with Covid. The doctor is unsure if he will come out,” they tweeted. “This year has been the toughest of my life losing my sister to this virus. This is the first time in my life I don’t see light at the end of the tunnel.”
Again, the condolences and well-wishes rolled in. But there was a problem: Honeyman wasn’t real.
The transgender “Doctor of Sociology and Feminist studies” with a “keen interest in poetry” who used they/them pronouns was, in fact, a stock photo described on DepositPhotos, a royalty-free image site, as “Smiling happy, handsome latino man outside—headshot portrait.”
Their supposedly comatose husband, Dr. Patrick C. Honeyman, was also fake. His Twitter photo had been stolen from an insurance professional in Wayne, Indiana.
The stock photo used as Dr. Robert Honeyman’s avatar on Twitter.
The photograph used as Dr. Patrick C. Honeyman’s avatar on Twitter.
The two fake doctors, whose accounts urged extreme caution about Covid-19, were part of a network of at least four fake accounts that touted their ties to the LGBTQ+ community, vocally advocated for mask-wearing and social distancing, and dished out criticism to those they felt were not taking the pandemic seriously.
The Honeymans could not be reached for comment, as they do not exist. At publication time, Robert Honeyman’s account was no longer active.
The fake doctors were uncovered by Joshua Gutterman Tranen, a self-described “gay writer” pursuing a master’s of fine arts at Bennington College. He saw Robert Honeyman’s tweet about their husband being in a coma, noticed people he followed also followed them, and thought that they might be part of the LGBTQ+ academic community.
But after 10 minutes of googling, Gutterman Tranen concluded that Robert Honeyman’s photo was a stock image and their biography stretched boundaries of believability: an academic who left no traces on academic websites and had lost two family members to Covid in late 2022, despite masking and distancing.
The character looked like “liberal Mad Libs,” Gutterman Tranen said.
“I’m a self-identified leftist, and I understand that people have a lot of different identities, but it felt concocted in the lab about how many identities and horrible experiences can we put on one person,” he said.
Throughout the pandemic, Twitter has been an important, if complicated, platform. Medical experts have used it to speak directly to the public about Covid and to criticize policies that they feel don’t do enough to protect people from the disease.
But Twitter has also been a site of disinformation and provocative claims that are based in fact or scientific knowledge but lack context. As the pandemic has dragged on, governments have lifted Covid restrictions, and people have shed their masks, more of the burden of charting a path in the “new normal” has fallen on individuals. And public-facing experts like UCSF’s Bob Wachter and Monica Gandhi have become important sources of advice.
But as the iconic New Yorker cartoon states, “On the internet, nobody knows you’re a dog”—or a fake doctor, for that matter.
The Honeymans offer one of the most blatant examples of this. It is unclear who created the two doctors, but their bios and personas signpost identities meant to appeal to a certain type of Twitter denizen: liberal, pro-diversity and concerned about Covid. Or meant to provoke the opposite of that type of person.
Both doctors present themselves as members of the LGBTQ+ community. Robert displayed the trans and Ukrainian flags in their Twitter name. Patrick had a rainbow flag in his bio.
Robert wrote openly about suffering from MPX, an infectious disease that caused San Francisco to declare a state of emergency earlier this year and had largely spread among men who have sex with men. “Don’t believe what the media have been sharing. […] it’s a horrible disease that has had me bed ridden,” they tweeted in July. They also claimed to have been the victim of a transphobic attack in October.
Another account associated with the group, Dr. Gerold Fischer, displayed rainbow, trans and Ukrainian flags next to his name and described himself as “an ally for all in the #LGBQT+ Community. #WearAMask.” Fischer’s account has since been taken down.
A fourth account, Dr. Steve “Ste” Ville, who claimed an affiliation with the University of Antwerp, described himself as an “LGBTQ+ Ally” and a “Proud Mask Wearer.”
All four doctors had a few things in common. Three had created their accounts during the pandemic. Fischer’s account dated to 2019, but his earliest visible tweet was from July 2022.
The doctors also frequently interacted with one another. Fischer’s first tweets were, in fact, a retweet, a quote tweet and a response to Robert Honeyman.
Robert Honeyman claimed that Fischer, who said he was suffering from post-Covid brain fog, was “the sharpest individual” they met at university. The two “doctors” sent greetings to each other’s families.
All four accounts urged caution about Covid. They also amplified the voices of other Twitter users calling on the public to mask, vaccinate and socially distance. At times, they criticized policies that they felt undermined pandemic safety and individuals who they believed did not take Covid seriously enough.
But as Twitter users responded to Gutterman Tranen’s thread on the Honeymans, they also discovered the accounts expressing views that appeared implausible.
“Come on china! Stop protesting, I wish we had similar lockdown measures here,” Robert Honeyman wrote in a Nov. 27 tweet.
They also claimed to have been a consultant who helped to the make the character Velma a lesbian in the new Scooby-Doo movie.
The Standard was unable to establish who created the four fake doctors. But perhaps the most alarming aspect of their nonexistence online is that it is also unclear why they were created.
Gutterman Tranen wondered about the motivation behind them.
“Is this someone who is well-intentioned but perhaps has a lot of anxiety about Covid, and this is a way for them to act out those anxieties?” he asked. “Or is this something more nefarious where someone thinks creating accounts like this is a way to point at them and say: ‘Look how crazy the liberals are’?”
As he watches his initial tweet about the Honeymans go viral, Gutterman Tranen is philosophical about the situation. He believes people are responding so strongly to his discovery because we all know that these kinds of accounts exist, but we seldom delve deeply into whether the person tweeting is actually authentic.
“We’ve just accepted that disinformation is an essential part of how Twitter works,” he said
.
But as Twitter users marveled over the four fake doctors, at least one “person” wasn’t having it: Ville.
“Disgusting to see the accusations being thrown my way, it’s truly incredible to see how quick ‘good’ people can switch up on you in the blink of an eye,” he tweeted on Dec. 13, “that age old saying rings true, ‘The one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying.’”
Rage on, Dr. Steve.
Snettrecker
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That's why I said who knows how much oxygen was getting into her bloodstream. She was ventilating adequately, that is evident, but a PE could have been blocking that oxygen getting into the bloodstream. I don't know Jennifer Zeng, so not disputing her tweet, just speaking from my experience on what I saw in the video.
Anything is possible these days. I know I see everyday people blowing things way out of proportion based on their interpretation of events. Anyone who has worked emergency medicine (prehospital or hospital) knows that people see things as an emergency that really aren't. It's mainly due to no education on such things.
Zoner
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Well that one video is really inconsequential to the bigger picture which is that there are so many dying in China that they are talking of building new crematoriums. They are burning bodies 24/7 and there's a month waiting list unless you have big bucks. So many are burning the bodies of their loved ones outside even though they get fined. There's evidences for all of this. Look at Jennifer Zeng's twitter feed. She is posting story after story about what is really going on in China contrary to what the CCP wants the world to know. Read it for yourself here: https://twitter.com/jenniferzeng97
I think it's settled that a great outbreak of Covid is occurring in China. Many nations are requiring Chinese travelers to be tested before they fly into their countries. Many are posting what is going on in China. #WhiteLung is a thing. It's real. Many are saying that White Lung and Covid are causing the Health System in the UK to be overwhelmed.
It's not only this variant causing white lung, but also XBB.1.5. And both are here in the U.S. So we'll have to wait to see what happens. I suspect by the end of this month we'll know a whole lot more.
I'll keep posting what I find. You can decide what to believe. I am interested in truth, so if something is false or wrong I want to know just like you do. May God help us to have faith in Him in these trying difficult times.
I think it's settled that a great outbreak of Covid is occurring in China. Many nations are requiring Chinese travelers to be tested before they fly into their countries. Many are posting what is going on in China. #WhiteLung is a thing. It's real. Many are saying that White Lung and Covid are causing the Health System in the UK to be overwhelmed.
It's not only this variant causing white lung, but also XBB.1.5. And both are here in the U.S. So we'll have to wait to see what happens. I suspect by the end of this month we'll know a whole lot more.
I'll keep posting what I find. You can decide what to believe. I am interested in truth, so if something is false or wrong I want to know just like you do. May God help us to have faith in Him in these trying difficult times.
Zoner
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She is posting to tell the truth about what is going on in China. She is a journalist.
Here is what is on Zeng's pinned tweet:
Inconvenient Truths by Jennifer Zeng 曾錚真言
@jenniferzeng97
All that you see in #CCP's "news" channels are staged and pre-arranged. They even deceive their own people. See my article "Faking with True Materials". It's my own experience in #Beijng Female Labor Camp. https://jenniferzengblog.com/home/faking-wi
Cacheman
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It's China. You'll never know.
Zoner
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They are in a major pandemic there.
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I believe it's real, don't get me wrong - and I believe it's coming here. (all denial aside, although it is comforting to use it when the stress gets too high). I subscribe 100% to Geert's theory, I think he is the smartest one out there in covid analysis land. You don't have to convince me of white lung or crematoriums or any of it. I think it's all real.
But I can not convince anyone who doesn't believe it because it's a belief based on my research and who I choose to believe - not hard fact because I am not a first hand witness and haven't spoken to a first hand witness. In law it's called 'hearsay' and it's not admissible in any court of law. That's my point. All opinions are opinions at this point, and no one on either side is going to convince the other side based on opinions. And just like the videos from 2020 - some will say they are real and some will say they are pysop fakes. How do you convince one side that is dug in on the other position? It's almost impossible. So for me at least, I don't throw pearls. It's too late in the game at this point to change anyone's mind until the facts themselves come along and then it may be too late for them unfortunately. Prep and pray in the meantime. And keep reading whatever reports you can find.
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She is posting to tell the truth about what is going on in China. She is a journalist.
Here is what is on Zeng's pinned tweet:
Inconvenient Truths by Jennifer Zeng 曾錚真言
@jenniferzeng97
All that you see in #CCP's "news" channels are staged and pre-arranged. They even deceive their own people. See my article "Faking with True Materials". It's my own experience in #Beijng Female Labor Camp. https://jenniferzengblog.com/home/faking-wi
I think Jennifer is sincere and truthful but do a google search on her, there are many detractors who think she's a plant. Their loss but their right too. That's what I mean - you can't convince anyone of anything...you have to find your truth out there and go from there. There is no objective truth anymore, it's all subjective. Do you believe Fauci, the 'authority' who is supposed to be science itself and beyond reproach? He's the definition of objective truth for most of the world. If you question him, there's something wrong with you/according to them. Truth has been the biggest casualty in this bio war.
HD
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No one knows. Ask Dr. Campbell or Zero Hedge and they'll tell you it's all good, it's mild omicron and they'll have herd inmmunity by Feb.
Ask some of the twitter posters being followed here and they'll tell you it's horrific and it's coming here next.
You have to make up your own mind - all this thread is trying to do is present as much news as possible so you can make up your own mind.
Bottom line - what would you do differently if you believed it was true? And how hard is it for you to do? Not too much of a sacrifice than why not do it? Stop eating out, stop going to crowded places, if you think masks work, mask up, wash your hands, get your preps and stock up and be ready spiritually and psychologically for whatever may come. And stay off planes!
HD
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I agree.
Zoner
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Of course if she’s telling the truth the Chinese government will make sure their bots and agents will discredit her.
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People who haven't had COVID will likely catch XBB.1.5 – and many will get reinfected, experts say
New COVID variant XBB.1.5 is very contagious, meaning everyone is at risk for infection even if you've already had COVID. Here's what that means.
People who haven't had COVID will likely catch XBB.1.5 – and many will get reinfected, experts say
Karen Weintraub, USA TODAY
Fri, January 6, 2023, 4:03 PM EST
The newest COVID-19 variant is so contagious that even people who've avoided it so far are getting infected and the 80% of Americans who've already been infected are likely to catch it again, experts say.
Essentially, everyone in the country is at risk for infection now, even if they're super careful, up to date on vaccines or have caught it before, said Paula Cannon, a virologist at the University of Southern California.
"It's crazy infectious," said Cannon, who is recovering from her first case of COVID-19, caught when she was vacationing over the holidays in her native Britain.
"All the things that have protected you for the past couple of years, I don't think are going to protect you against this new crop of variants," she said.
The number of severe infections and deaths remains relatively low, despite the high level of infections, she said, thanks to vaccinations – and probably – previous infections. But the lack of universal masking means that even people like her, who do mask, are vulnerable.
The latest variant, called XBB.1.5, grew exponentially over the month of December, from about 1% of cases nationwide to 40% as of Dec. 31, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The variant is likely behind the vast majority of cases in New York and New England.
Its growth is probably due to XBB.1.5's characteristics – it appears to bind even more tightly to receptors in the human body than its predecessors – as well as human behavior, such as traveling and not masking.
It's a good idea to do what you can to avoid getting infected, said Dr. Ziyad Al-Aly, chief of research and development at the VA St. Louis Health Care System and a clinical epidemiologist at Washington University in St. Louis.
It's still early and there are a lot of unknowns about XBB.1.5, he said. Every infection makes someone vulnerable to a bad course of the disease and to the lingering, miserable symptoms of long COVID, Al-Aly's research shows.
"Reinfection buys you additional risk," he said.
What to know about XBB.1.5 symptoms and how long they last
COVID-19 symptoms typically last around five to seven days and can include fever, sore throat, muscle aches, exhaustion, nausea, cough and sinus congestion, among other problems.
Symptoms with XBB.1.5 are the same as with earlier variants and can range from almost nothing to shortness of breath and low oxygen levels that require emergency medical attention.
Early in the pandemic, COVID-19 often cost people their sense of taste and smell, at least temporarily, but that symptom seems less common, possibly because of vaccination or previous infection rather than a change in the virus, said Dr. Peter Hotez, an infectious disease specialist and co-director of the Center for Vaccine Development at Texas Children’s Hospital.
How long does COVID last? How long are you contagious?
It takes anywhere from two to 14 days for exposure to lead to symptoms and a positive test.
People with COVID-19 are contagious as long as they remain positive on a rapid test, typically for about 10 days, but often longer.
The CDC recommends people isolate for at least five days and wear an N95 or similarly protective mask for at least 10 days when around others. Day One is considered the first full day after symptoms start.
A PCR test, which is considered the gold standard for diagnosing COVID-19, can remain positive for months because it detects viral fragments as well as the whole, infectious virus. To confirm the end of the contagious period, experts instead recommend a negative rapid test after 10 days or two within 48 hours if sooner.
Can you get COVID more than once?
Yes. While a previous infection provides some protection, that fades over time and as the virus evolves into different variants.
Some people who had a mild case with a first infection get hit harder the second or third time, while others might suffer less.
"Even if you've had it before, that doesn't mean your next bout is going to be the same," Cannon said. There are lots of factors at play in determining the seriousness of an infection, she said, including prior immunity, the nature of the variant and how long it's been since your last infection or vaccination.
It's possible that her recent infection was much milder than her husband's, for instance, because she had caught a head cold a few days earlier, while her husband hadn't. A respiratory virus can put the immune system on high alert and might have provided some protection when she was exposed to COVID-19.
"It's part of the bigger dance between our bodies and our immune system," Cannon said.
How to avoid infection
The methods for avoiding infection haven't changed, though it can be hard to stick with them when no one else is: Get vaccinated, wear a mask and avoid crowded spaces.
First is getting vaccinated. This will protect against severe infection as well as reduce the risk of passing the virus to others, said Hotez, also dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine.
The newer boosters, which take aim at both the original virus and the BA.4/BA.5 variants common this summer, are more protective against XBB.1.5 than earlier boosters. People who are up to date on their COVID-19 shots probably don't shed as much virus for as long, so they're also less likely to pass it on, he added.
Past infection provides some protection against severe disease, but that protection is "highly unreliable," Hotez said.
Second is wearing a mask. Good quality, well-fitting masks, like an N95 or KN95 can reduce the risk of infection.
Cannon said people sometimes get annoyed at her mask-wearing "because it's like I'm reminding them that (COVID) is still a problem." But she doesn't want to accidentally pass COVID on to someone who might be more vulnerable to the virus.
Third is avoiding crowded indoor spaces. You're less likely to get infected in large indoor spaces with high ceilings and lots of ventilation than in cramped, airless ones.
What to do if you get sick
It's a good idea to have a plan ready in case you get sick, Cannon said. She suggests every plan include:
- How to isolate from others in your household
- The contact number for a health care provider who can prescribe an antiviral
- Equipment such as rapid coronavirus tests, extra masks, a thermometer and a pulse oximeter to make sure the patient's blood oxygen level doesn't drop below the low 90s
For someone over 60 or with medical conditions like obesity that raise the risk for serious disease, the first step after a positive test should be a call to the doctor to get the antiviral Paxlovid, she and others said. The government has pre-bought millions of doses, so they are available for free.
Some doctors are hesitant to provide the antiviral because people may need to stop taking common medications during the five-day treatment course, but it's essential for people at high risk for serious disease, Hotez said. "Any senior going on Paxlovid is not dying," he said.
"We can't stop people getting infected," Cannon added, "but we absolutely can stop people from being seriously ill. Gosh, why wouldn't you take it?"
Why it's better not to get infected
Every COVID-19 infection increases your risk for serious disease and for long COVID, which brings sometimes debilitating symptoms that can linger for a year or more.
Older adults are more vulnerable, Al-Aly said, "but it doesn't mean younger people are totally shielded." Long COVID, too, can strike people at any age from childhood through to the 101-year-old recently treated at his hospital, he said.
Vaccination reduces the risk of long COVID by 15% to 30%, according to a study he recently published. Another study he is working on shows Paxlovid reduces the risk by 26%.
Cannon's daughter works in a long COVID clinic and regularly sees patients who are in their 20s or 30s, "healthy people who didn't even have a particularly bad bout of COVID who now have a massively debilitating set of symptoms."
All six experts interviewed by USA TODAY this week dismissed the idea that there is somehow an upside to getting infected: Vaccination provides better protection against future infection without the risk.
"I'd be happy if I never got any virus again," Cannon said. "And I say this as a professional virologist."
Could we be nearing the end of COVID?
COVID-19 has been perhaps the most successful virus in all of human history, Cannon said, infecting billions of people across the planet.
While she worries about how it might continue to evolve, she hopes it's a good sign that for the last year, all the variants have been descendants of omicron.
Before that, the original virus, alpha, beta and delta had been "radically" different from each other.
"The virus is now in this committed lineage," Cannon said, which might mean it won't evolve away from the protection against serious disease that nearly everyone now has from vaccinations and previous infections.
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'It Doesn't Make Sense,' Experts Trying to Explain White Lungs in China
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‘It Doesn’t Make Sense,’ Experts Trying to Explain White Lungs in China
Marina Zhang
Jan 6 2023
While the official data from China reports mild disease and low mortalities surrounding the latest COVID-19 outbreaks, Chinese social media is awash with reports of “white lung,” a form of pneumonia often seen in moderate to severe disease.
Anecdotal accounts of deaths after infections, and overwhelmed hospitals and morgues, have flooded Weibo and Chinese short-form video platforms.
White Lungs: a Telling Sign of Severe Disease
Pulmonary critical care specialist Dr. Joseph Varon from Baylor University expressed his perplexity at the white-lung reports on Chinese social media.
“It doesn’t make sense,” he said, referring to the official reports from China that state the dominant circulating strains as BA.5.2 and BF.7, both Omicron variants that cause mild disease.
Omicron in general, “[doesn’t] give you white lungs,” he argued. “Those images [on social media] suggest that you’re dealing with something very similar to Delta.”
Whiteness in Computed Tomography (CT) scans is a telling sign of severe disease. “The whiter the lungs are, the more chances of dying you have,” said Varon, referring to a study he co-authored on disease prognosis.
Omicron’s different surface markers make the variant more capable of infecting the upper airways rather than causing inflammation and pneumonia in the lungs. Pneumonia is more likely seen in patients infected with Omicron if they are old and severely immunocompromised.
The Epoch Times recently spoke to a 36-year-old man in China, who had no underlying health issues but developed white lungs in mid-December 2022 after developing flu-like symptoms.
Feeling like he couldn’t breathe, he admitted himself to the hospital. Doctors did not make a diagnosis but prescribed him Azvudine, a drug conditionally approved in China to treat COVID-19.
Pulmonary critical care specialist Dr. Paul Marik said the man’s lungs on the CT scans had typical signs of COVID-19 pneumonia.
Varon speculated that if the cases of white lungs were indeed reported in many healthy and younger people, he would question if it were Omicron dealing so much of the damage.
Low and Impaired Immunity From Lockdowns
Microbiologist Dr. Stanley Perlman expressed that he was “unsurprised” to see the white-lung reports in China.
Perlman argued that the zero-COVID policies and strict lockdown controls meant that most people likely had both low exposure and immunity to the virus, which would increase their chances of developing severe disease.
Professor of infectious disease Dr. William Schaffner from Vanderbilt University School of Medicine agreed that the lockdowns have reduced viral exposure and natural immunity.
“In China, the lockdown was so rigorous,” said Schaffner. “It really reduced the transmission of COVID.”
Schaffner said that while the rest of the world seems to be dealing with Omicron as a mild, background disease, with so little data coming out of China on the death and infection rates, it is difficult to draw a comparison and make a comprehensive assessment of China’s situation.
Dr. David Bell, an infectious disease expert and former medical officer at the World Health Organization, criticized China’s lockdown policies for contributing to large outbreaks.
Bell argued that it was not new knowledge that lockdowns cannot control a respiratory virus and that such measures can potentially impair people’s immune systems if prolonged.
Additionally, children kept in sterile and isolated environments would develop poor immune responses when exposed to environmental stimulants.
“I call it the bubble boy,” said Varon. “It’s like if you have a kid. You wouldn’t want the kid to get infected with everything, [but] you want to expose them to normal things. If you keep them in a glass bubble, anything can kill them.”
Pulmonary critical care specialist Dr. Paul Marik said that humans would naturally mingle once the restrictions were lifted, and naturally start spreading the virus.
“This [the increase in cases and deaths] was going to happen. It was just when it happened,” said Marik.
Rebuttal to the Lockdown Argument
Virologist Dr. Li-Meng Yan was more dismissive of the argument that the white-lung presentation was from a lack of general immunity due to zero-COVID measures.
Yan said this reasoning would assume that few people were infected in the earlier outbreaks in China, but this is unverifiable.
Since COVID-19 emerged in China in 2019, all of the data on infection and mortality rates have come from China’s official reports and no outside research group has been able to verify the numbers independently.
Yan, who studied the COVID-19 virus at the University of Hong Kong early in the pandemic, said that the sharing of data between mainland Chinese and Hong Kong research laboratories suddenly became controlled and scrutinized. Scientists in Hong Kong could only work with official data and make their own estimations.
Interviews conducted with Chinese citizens during the early outbreaks also showed that in the very first Wuhan outbreak, case numbers and deaths were underreported as hospitals turned away people presenting with COVID-19 symptoms.
Yan argued that it was likely that the earlier outbreaks were more severe than what was officially reported. By this, Yan means that if more people had been infected and died, then more should now also have some degree of immunity that protects them against the Omicron variant.
Yet cities like Wuhan and Changsha, both of which were COVID-19 hotspots in earlier outbreaks, are now seeing a repeat of the overload in hospitals and morgues.
The problem with China’s new outbreak is just the same as the first outbreak three years ago: The data is unverified and likely underreporting the real mortality and infection rates.
While the lifting of the zero-COVID policies would have contributed to further spread, Yan argued that the strict lockdowns were not consistent.
She pointed to media reports of lockdowns in Shanghai and Xinjiang, which lasted for months and left many people starved. Yan said that while those lockdowns were severe and the experiences real, the reality was that most of the zero-COVID policies were about contact tracing and implementing “digital control using tracking codes.”
Once lockdowns were lifted, business went on as usual; people would work and go outside for daily testing, which put them in an environment of viral exposure.
According to WHO data, over 86 percent of China’s population has taken the two primary shots of the Chinese COVID vaccines, and around 55 percent has been boosted.
Given these exposures, Yan argues that most people have some level of immunity.
In light of these inconsistencies, Yan said that global health agencies should ask why Chinese health authorities stopped PCR testing to track new variants.
Schaffner also expressed concern that the variants are not being tracked.
With so many people infected, there is “a certain anxiety” among biologists and public-health authorities, said Schaffner, “that this is an environment where potentially a new variant could occur that might evade the protection of our vaccines and therapeutic agents.”
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CCP Wants to Infect the World as It Rejects International Travel Curbs, Conceals COVID Data: Gordon Chang
As a deadly new virus first emerged in the central Chinese city of Wuhan in late 2019, the ...
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CCP Wants to Infect the World as It Rejects International Travel Curbs, Conceals COVID Data: Gordon Chang
By Dorothy Li and Jan Jekielek
January 6, 2023
As a deadly new virus first emerged in the central Chinese city of Wuhan in late 2019, the regime downplayed the severity of the virus and concealed the true scale of the outbreak.
It wasn’t until late January 2020 that Chinese officials disclosed that the mysterious virus was caple of transmitting between humans. The delay in public warning allowed the disease to develop into a global pandemic: By the time Wuhan was locked down, cases had already been reported in the United States, Thailand, and several other countries.
To contain the virus’ advance, dozens of nations imposed travel restrictions on Chinese visitors around February 2020. The regime, in response, lashed out at countries taking precautionary measures, with the foreign ministry accusing these nations were “sowing panic,” even though a swath of China had shut down.
“You put those two things together, and it means they deliberately spread this disease beyond its borders,” said Gordon Chang, author and a senior fellow of Gatestone Institute.
“The reason why we need that context is because we’re seeing something similar today. As this disease … is ripping through China, they are now opening up the doors to Chinese leaving [the] country for tourism. And they are not sharing sequencing. They’re not telling the world what’s actually going on in China right now,” the China expert said in a recent interview with EpochTV’s “American Thought Leaders” program, due to premiere on Jan. 7 at 7:30 p.m. ET.
His comment came as the regime becomes increasingly angry at countries requiring travelers from China to take COVID tests, measures taken before the regime reopened the country’s border on Jan. 6.
“We will take corresponding measures based on the principle of reciprocity according to different situations,” China’s foreign ministry spokesperson Mao Ning said Tuesday.
China is battling with a massive outbreak that has yet to peak. The World Health Organization is appealing for transparency, saying China’s official tallies are underreporting the actual scale of the outbreak.
China’s top health body stopped publishing daily infections and has acknowledged only a handful of deaths during the current outbreak. But as many as 248 million people, or 18 percent of the country’s population, were estimated to have caught the virus between Dec. 1 to 20, according to a memo from the health regulator’s internal meeting leaked online and confirmed by news outlets. Local officials and domestic health experts estimated the infection rate likely exceeded 50 percent in multiple provinces and reached 80 percent in Beijing.
Amid the explosive outbreak, the lack of reliable data has stoked global concerns, particularly regarding the possibility of a new, more dangerous variant circulating in the country.
The United States and over a dozen nations now require a negative COVID test result for visitors from China. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said the measure is to impede the spread of COVID on American soil, given “the lack of adequate and transparent epidemiological and viral genomic sequence data.” The agency is now considering measures like sampling wastewater from flights from China to track potential new variants.
Such responses, according to Chang, were not enough if the regime was once again seeking to “deliberately” infect the world.
“That’s entirely wrong. I mean, if China is doing this again, and it’s clear that they are, then we should not be allowing arrivals in from China until we know what the devil is going on,” he said.
Reasons for Abandonment of Zero-COVID
Since the initial lockdown of Wuhan, the regime had vowed to eliminate every infection among communities through repeated testings, swift lockdowns, prolonged quarantine, and digital surveillance. By mid-Octorber, when Chinese leader Xi Jinping claimed an unprecedented third term in office during the 20th Party congress, he doubled down on the communist-style campaign, known as zero-COVID, despite growing the economic and human toll.
Then, following historic nationwide protests in late November, the regime abruptly reversed the course and scrapped most of the zero-COVID policy.
In reality, the long-held strategy was already under strain ahead of the reversal, Chang noted.
“The World Health Organization actually said that the virus was surging through China before the lockdowns were lifted on Dec. 7, so that they were saying the lifting of the lockdowns didn’t cause the surge because it was already there,” the analyst said.
“When you start looking at the data … we’re seeing that there really were infections, and now it is just completely out of control,” he said. The COVID crisis set off even before the protests. Official daily infections was surging from 3,837 new cases on Nov. 5, to nearly 40,000 on Nov. 27, a record high of cases prompting more local controls. Though the official figures are still likely a vast undercount given the communist regime’s practice of covering up data that may tarnish its image.
From Nov. 26, rare protests against the draconian curbs erupted in major cities and prominent university campuses across the nation. Some young demonstrators in Shanghai went even further, calling Xi and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) to step down.
That bold voice “frightened the Communist Party,” said Chang. “That means that the mood was revolutionary.”
Beyond the widespread anger, the fight against COVID has taken a heavy toll on the economy. The daily testings and constant tracing of close contacts over the prior three years have drained local finances and hammered the country’s shaky economy, Chang said.
As COVID outbreaks kept repeating, the implementation of the costly approach was “just not possible anymore for the party,” he said. “They just didn’t have the resources to do it.”
Mounting economic costs, a slowing economy, a rapid COVID surge despite tightened lockdowns, combined with the biggest display of public discontent in decades, finally pushed the regime to relinquish the zero-COVID policy long championed by the CCP, according to Chang.
“Those four reasons are essentially why the Communist Party didn’t change its policies on Dec. 7, it just capitulated to the disease. This is the collapse of Communist Party policy.”
COVID ‘Conquered Communism’
Outbreaks are now spreading unabated through the nation’s 1.4 billion population with low natural immunity after three years of strict lockdowns, leaving ill-prepared hospitals inundated with patients and crematoriums overloaded with bodies, essentially a reprise of what happened in Wuhan and other Chineses cities in early 2020.
The chaotic scenes reveal the “communist party policy was a failure,” Chang said.
The anti-COVID campaign originated from a Chinese communist ideology that humans are over heaven. “Battling with heaven is endless joy, fighting with the earth is endless joy, and struggling with humanity is endless joy,” Mao Zedong, the first leader of the CCP, claimed.
“Mao talked about conquering nature, well Xi Jinping obviously thought he could conquer the disease,” Chang said.
“We saw the Communist Party, despite its great efforts, was not able to stop this. And that’s why we’re having just unfolding tragedy in China right now.
“And eventually the disease conquered communism.”
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Coronavirus found in samples from 96% of flights
If you believe it’s now safe to fly without a protective mask, you might want to think again. New research shows the COVID-19 virus has been found on nearly every flight.
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Coronavirus found in samples from 96% of flights
By Stephanie Raymond
January 3, 2023 2:30 pm
If you believe it's now safe to fly without a protective mask, you might want to think again. New research shows the COVID-19 virus has been found on nearly every flight tested.
Scientists who analyzed wastewater samples taken from 29 flights in Kuala Lumpur have found the coronavirus in 28 of them, according to the National Public Health Laboratory Malaysia. Testing on the 29th sample has not yet been completed, per the laboratory.
The samples were taken at international entry points from June through December 2022. During the same time frame, the lab also tested 301 samples from 15 sentinel locations representing each state in the country.
All totaled, "SarsCoV-2 was detected in 288 samples," or 95.7% of all flights, health director-general Dr. Noor Hisham Abdullah said in a statement to Malaysian newspaper Sinar Harian.
The aircraft sewage surveillance process involves systematic sampling and testing for untreated wastewater and sewer contamination. RNA fragments of the SARS-CoV-2 virus are found in the feces of infected individual regardless of health status (symptomatic, asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic, recovered) and can be detected in sewage. This form of the virus is not infectious and can't be transmitted via feces.
The sewage is taken out of the airplane through a septic tank truck to the aircraft waste disposal facility. Once the targeted flights are identified, officials obtain samples of the sewage water before it undergoes treatment and send them to the lab for testing.
Dr. Abdullah said sewage water sampling from aircraft is carried out twice a week.
"For the sewage water surveillance from this aircraft, as many as one liter of sewage water samples are taken from selected aircraft," Abdullah told Sinar Harian.
The testing is continuously carried out by Malaysia's Ministry of Health as supplementary surveillance to identify countries at risk for COVID-19. Abdullah said the surveillance is intended as an early warning and is one of the control measures the country is using in facing the current situation of the coronavirus.
The concentration of a virus in wastewater can paint a picture of how much COVID-19 is present in that community. Testing at airports can help provide context for how prevalent the virus is among international travelers, and provide clues as to what new variants are emerging.
Within the last week, the Center for Disease Control announced it is considering use of wastewater testing at airports, mainly on incoming international flights, to track any emerging new variants as COVID-19 surges in China. Health officials in Australia and the United Kingdom announced similar plans.
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COVID-19 News: New SARS-CoV-2 Variants In China BF.7.14 And BA.5.2.48 Found To Driving Pneumonia And ARDs But Fake Virologist Claiming They Are Mild! - Thailand Medical News
COVID-19 News: New worrisome data is indicating that the new BF.7 variant in China spotting the spike mutation C1243F and a variety of new BA.5.2 sub-lineages are driving pneumonia and ARDS in many infected patients not just those in the vulnerable groups. (The aged, the young, the obese, the...
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COVID-19 News: New SARS-CoV-2 Variants In China BF.7.14 And BA.5.2.48 Found To Driving Pneumonia And ARDs But Fake Virologist Claiming They Are Mild
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New worrisome data is indicating that the new BF.7 variant in China spotting the spike mutation C1243F and a variety of new BA.5.2 sub-lineages are driving pneumonia and ARDS in many infected patients not just those in the vulnerable groups. (The aged, the young, the obese, the immunocompromised, those with existing comorbidities such as diabetes high blood pressure, kidney and heart issues and certain individuals with certain genetic mutations). Furthermore it has also been seen that many who were asymptomatic or mild symptomatic, seemed to develop lung injuries and lesions that manifested as glass opacities in x-rays and MRI scans….what many Chinese are now referring to as White Lungs.
Thailand Medical News had earlier warned about these new Chinese variants and about the white lung issues in our earlier COVID-19 News coverages.
COVID-19 News: Multiple New Variants In China Could Be Behind Increasing Disease Severity Including New BF.7 Variant With C1243F Spike Mutation! - Thailand Medical News
COVID-19 News: Researchers are concerned that already a few new concerning SARS-CoV-2 variants and sub-lineages have emerged in China and are contributing to increased disease severity and mortality being seen in the country the last three weeks. Pic Credit: DamienArt - stock.adobe.com Just...
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COVID-19 News: Besides BF.7 With C1243F Mutation, Other New Concerning Sublineages From BA.2.3.20 And BA.5.2 With New Mutations Identified In China! - Thailand Medical News
COVID-19 News: International researchers are now able to identify more concerning variants that have emerged in China by obtaining samples for genomic sequencing from Chinese travelers arriving at other countries who are not only testing positive for COVID-19 but some who have been hospitalized...
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BREAKING! COVID-19 News: New Omicron Sublineages In China Causing Immune Dysfunctions That Allows Other Opportunistic Pathogens To Affect Lungs! - Thailand Medical News
COVID-19 News: All over China, many infected with the current circulating SARS-CoV-2 variants are manifesting the typical glass opacities in lung X-rays or scans that were witnessed during the early outbreaks involving either the original Wuhan wildtype strain or the Delta variant. Many are also...
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The new BF.7 variant in China has now been designated as BF.7.14
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BF.7 sublineage with S:C1243F circulating in China (292 seq as of 2023-01-06) · Issue #1470 · cov-lineages/pango-designation
Proposal for a sublineage of BF.7 Earliest seq: 2022-09-27 (Inner Mongolia, China) Countries detected: China (15 seq, from Beijing and Inner Mongolia), Singapore (8, including 4 travellers from Chi...
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One of the various new BA.5.2 sub-lineages that are unique in China has been designated as BA.5.2.48.
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Other new and unique Chinese BA.5.2 sub-lineages are also being investigated.
BA.5.2 sublineage with S:T883I and Orf1b:S997P circulating in China (72 seqs as of 2023-01-04) · Issue #1480 · cov-lineages/pango-designation
Defining mutations: BA.5.2 > C27513T > C27012T > G12310A > Orf1b:1050N (C16616A) >S:T883I (C24210T ) > A14673G, Orf1b:S997P (T16456C) Tree: https://nextstrain.org/fetch/genome.ucs...
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BA.5.2.48 sublineage with S:A570S circulating in China (67 sequences as 06/01/23) · Issue #1479 · cov-lineages/pango-designation
Defining mutations: BA.5.2.48 > S:A570S (G23270T) EDITED Tree: https://nextstrain.org/fetch/genome.ucsc.edu/trash/ct/subtreeAuspice3_genome_1acf9_b0ad20.json?c=userOrOld&label=id:node_708055...
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BA.5.2.48 sublineage with N:Q241K circulating in China 165 sequences as 06/01/23 · Issue #1478 · cov-lineages/pango-designation
This lineage was spotted first by Yunlong Richard Cao, Defining mutations : BA.5.2 ( > C27513T > C27012T > G12310A > C16616A (Orf1b:1050N)) then C2710T > C8626T > C11824T > T17...
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BA.5.2 sublineage with ORF1a:T1788M and Nuc mutation C4573T mainly circulating in China, Guangdong (10 seq) · Issue #1472 · cov-lineages/pango-designation
Proposal for a sublineage of BA.5.2. Earliest seq: 2022-11-17 (Guangdong, China) Countries detected: China (total 7, 5 from Guangdong and 2 from fujian), Cambodia (1), Singapore (2) Defining mutati...
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BA.5.2+ORF1b:T1050N sublineage circulating in China (312 seq as of 2023-01-06) · Issue #1471 · cov-lineages/pango-designation
Proposal for a sublineage of BA.5.2. Earliest seq: 2022-10-05 (Guangdong, China) Countries detected: Singapore (16, including 9 travellers from China and 2 travellers from Hong Kong), China (7, all...
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New data emerging from China is indicating the Chinese variants are driving pneumonia and ARDS in many patients and unlike the earlier Omicron variants and even the various XBB sub-lineages, are exhibiting tropism towards the lungs alveolar tissues and cells.
Chinese health experts are reporting that up to 40 percent of all those aged above 50 contracting the new SARS-CoV-2 variants and sub-lineages in circulation are contracting pneumonia. Also, between 10 to 20 percent of lung x-rays or MRI scans of infected individuals across various age groups are showing the white lung manifestations.
Chinese doctors, physicians and even reporters are also going online to warn people about the serios pneumonia conditions caused by the circulating variants.
View: https://twitter.com/nuomt/status/1609179002320654337
View: https://twitter.com/vidtranslator/status/1608022574398689280
View: https://twitter.com/JiangJiang43/status/1610338758595088386
Some so-called fake virologists from a particular country famous for whores, scams and corruption (kindly check their credentials as to whether they have gone through the relevant training to be called virologist!) for a garbage educational establishment famous for lying that they were found the cures for various diseases or developed superior COVID-19 vaccines while always soliciting for donations, in the last 48 hours have been disseminating lots of misinformation in a garbage media, written by a garbage journalist who had no knowledge about health or medica matters, claiming that the Chinese variants are not worrisome and that the XBB.1.5 is more serious and other Western variants are more worrisome. In reality, any properly qualified medical doctor would know that all SARS-CoV-2 variants or sub-lineages are worrisome irrespective of their pathogenicity or virulence as we are discovering that the SARS-COv-2 can cause all kinds of serious long term issues!
Ironically, the XBB.1.5 variant although is more transmissible but less immune evasive than the original XBB variant, will not cause much disease severity and mortality except those in the vulnerable groups who will also remain susceptible to any SARS-CoV-2 variants.
View: https://twitter.com/yunlong_cao/status/1607915567696203776
View: https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1610002767904669698
Thailand Medical News had also warned that the Chinese variants are more worrisome than the XBB.1.5 variant as they seem to be driving more hospitalizations and deaths.
COVID-19 News: XBB.1.5 Is Not As Worrisome As Compared To China’s Unique BF.7 and BA.5.2 Sub-lineages That Are Driving Hospitalizations And Deaths! - Thailand Medical News
COVID-19 News: While some stupids named XBB.1.5 as Kraken, a legendary frightful sea-monster of enormous size said to appear off the coasts of Norway to instill fear in the masses and was surprisingly adopted by many hypocritical virologists and variant trackers who in the past accused Thailand...
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It should be noted that some of these fake virologists who are making media statements have made so many fake statements during the early part of the pandemic and even made claims that the Sinovac vaccines were effective when so many new peer reviewed studies have now shown this to be not true.
What is worse is that some of these garbage ‘virologists; are now claiming that young children should not be masking as they are protected after earlier exposures to the SARS-CoV-2 virus despite not providing any proper scientific evidence!
In fact, many real researchers and experts are now worried that the exposure to the SARS-CoV-2 virus could have impaired the robust innate immune systems of children, making them more susceptible to other opportunistic pathogens including the RSV, Adenovirus and even Flu virus, Strep A bacteria etc.
COVID-19 News: Charlatans Promoting ‘Immunity Debt’ For Rise In Pediatric Viral Infections! SARS-CoV-2 Destroying Children’s Robust Innate System Is The Cause! - Thailand Medical News
COVID-19 News: Off late, there is much talk online about so called “Immunity Debt” leading to primarily children and also some adults contracting other pathogenic infections especially respiratory viral illnesses like influenza, RSV, Adenovirus and even other disease like measles, chicken pox...
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WARNING! Newer SARS-CoV-2 Variants Have Evolved To Overcome The Robust Innate Immune System Of Children! Infants And Children Are More Vulnerable Now! - Thailand Medical News
In the last few weeks, the number of infants and children being admitted to hospitals due to COVID-19 severity is fast increasing in many states across the United States and worse in countries like the United Kingdom, Belgium, Germany, France, Denmark and Austria...
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COVID-19 News: Imperial College London Study Shows That SARS-CoV-2 Causes Monocytes From The Innate Immune System To Become Dysfunctional! - Thailand Medical News
COVID-19 News: A new study led by researchers from Imperial College London has shown that SARS-CoV-2 infections causes monocytes which are part of the innate immune system to become dysfunctional as a result of transcriptional reprogramming which also makes them adopt a pro-thrombotic signature...
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Strep A News: Invasive Group A Strep (iGAS) Infections Increasing Globally. 19 Pediatric Deaths In UK, 2 In US and 2 In Canada With Thousands Infected! - Thailand Medical News
Strep A News: Cases of invasive group A strep, a bacterial infection are reportedly increasing globally at a worrisome rate with countries like the United Kingdom, United States and Canada most likely to be hit badly. Cases were initially reported in the United Kingdom a few weeks ago but...
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Canada Medical News: Shortage Of Pediatric ICU Beds Due To An Onslaught By Various Pathogens: SARS-CoV-2, RSV, Influenza, Norovirus, Strep A, Rotavirus! - Thailand Medical News
Canada Medical News: There is now an acute shortage of Pediatric ICU (PICU) beds and even beds at neonatal intensive care units (NICU) as the number of critically ill children is rising on an exponential basis daily in Canada. Already hospitals are facing an overwhelming number of adult...
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American Academy of Pediatrics Warns That COVID-19 Infections Among Children Is Increasing In America With 30,000 New Cases In The Last 7 Days! - Thailand Medical News
Despite many states in America either not reporting COVID-19 statistics or are not collating data properly, indications from hospital and healthcare professionals show that COVID-19 cases are rising in the country and the only difference between the previous surges are that more children are...
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COVID-19 News: Australia Is Another Country That Is Not Transparent With Its COVID-19 Data As New Variants BR.2.1, XBF And CH.1.1 Are Wreaking Havoc! - Thailand Medical News
COVID-19 News: Readers have to understand that we are currently living in the worst of times as those controlling the COVID-19 narratives are controlling Governments and mainstream media and only allowing the release of data and news that benefits them and their agenda… which is to basically to...
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COVID-19 News: Australia Is Another Country That Is Not Transparent With Its COVID-19 Data As New Variants BR.2.1, XBF And CH.1.1 Are Wreaking Havoc
Thailand Medical News
January 6, 2022
Readers have to understand that we are currently living in the worst of times as those controlling the COVID-19 narratives are controlling Governments and mainstream media and only allowing the release of data and news that benefits them and their agenda… which is to basically to hoodwink the ignorant masses that the COVID-19 shots and boosters prevents disease severity and mortality, that their antivirals work, that there is no COVID-19 crisis in their own respective countries and to also not let people know the serious damage that exposure to the virus can do to their long term health and how it shortens their lifespans!
But as much as they try to ‘gaslit’ and control the narratives, sometimes it is coming the ‘haunt’ them back!
Fact Check-Finding that most people dying from COVID-19 are vaccinated does not mean vaccines don’t work
Statistics that show the majority of deaths from COVID-19 are among vaccinated people reflect the fact most people are vaccinated, not that the vaccines are ineffective, as implied in a social media post. Similar statistics show COVID vaccines continue to reduce the risk...
www.reuters.com
We are seeing mainstream media and COVID-19 News outlets only focusing on the unfolding COVID-19 catastrophe in China but not on the SARS-CoV-2 crisis in their own home countries such as the United Kingdom, United States, Canada, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Brazil, Bolivia, Norway, Finland, Germany, Turkey, Philippines, Taiwan, etc
Many countries are using strategies such as less testing, changing criteria to report on hospitalizations and even deaths to try to keep the figures low and in many cases have found ways to stop the reporting of daily COVID-19 statistics so that the ignorant masses will not know what is truly happening. Some countries in the EU like Netherland have totally stop divulging all COVID-19 death statistics!
View: https://twitter.com/mzelst/status/1610282260040765440
View: https://twitter.com/Jean__Fisch/status/1610931104835403778
The real COVID-19 crisis in Australia that is not being covered by both Australian and Western mainstream media except Skynews Australia and ABC news, is just as bad as elsewhere.
In the last 24 hours, Australia reported 51,559 New daily COVID-19 infections despite very low testing rates! Only a total of 256 COVID-19 deaths were reported in the last 24 hours.
11,205,520 Coronavirus cases in Australia - COVID Live
Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Australia
covidlive.com.au
(Read comments about reduced testing in South Australia since December 29th)
View: https://twitter.com/adelaidians/status/1608660601462743044
The daily COVID-19 death rates do not correlate with what is being witnessed in hospitals across the country and also what is being reported by physicians on the forefronts for the last three weeks.
'Code yellow', urgent texts for staffing and a viral Facebook post: Tasmania's health system 'absolutely broken'">'Code yellow', urgent texts for staffing and a viral Facebook post: Tasmania's health system 'absolutely broken'
View: https://twitter.com/DarcyAmaroo/status/1610051162350456833
View: https://twitter.com/annatime94/status/1607596922659024898
View: https://twitter.com/ukpapers/status/1608625665820999681
What will Australia's fourth year of the COVID-19 pandemic look like?
On the first day of 2023, experts weigh in on how far Australia — and the world — has come since the pandemic began, and what the next frontiers are going into the new year.
www.abc.net.au
There are very strong suspicions that the true impact from the current SARS-CoV-2 onslaught is being concealed to the public and that the Australian government is not being transparent.
The Australian government is adopting a ‘let it rip approach’ with regards to the current onslaught by various new SARS-CoV-2 variants and sub-lineages.
Albanese has let Australian voters down on COVID-19
Labor won kudos for states' virus management, but now is 'letting it rip'
asia.nikkei.com
The current new SARS-CoV-2 variants and sub-lineages driving the current onslaught in Australia are the BR..2.1, XBF and CH.1.1
lineages/muller_trajectories_country_Australia.svg at main · MurrellGroup/lineages
Results from a model of global SARS-CoV-2 lineage competition - lineages/muller_trajectories_country_Australia.svg at main · MurrellGroup/lineages
github.com
The XBF recombinant variant also has the spike mutations F486P seen in XBB.1.5 that is supposed to enhance ACE2 bindings and contribute to enhanced transmissibility.
View: https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1610002767904669698
The BR.2.1 variant meanwhile has the spike F486I mutation.
covSPECTRUM
covSPECTRUM is an interactive platform aiming to help scientists investigate and identify variants of SARS-CoV-2.
cov-spectrum.org
covSPECTRUM
covSPECTRUM is an interactive platform aiming to help scientists investigate and identify variants of SARS-CoV-2.
cov-spectrum.org
covSPECTRUM
covSPECTRUM is an interactive platform aiming to help scientists investigate and identify variants of SARS-CoV-2.
cov-spectrum.org
Most of these new variants are also highly resistant to the existing monoclonal therapeutics available.
View: https://twitter.com/StuartTurville/status/1610183132841676800
The XBB.1.5 has also made its debut in Australia but is still low in circulation.
'More transmissible' COVID variant arrives in Australia
A new COVID-19 variant that has rapidly spread across the United States and the world has arrived in Australia.
www.skynews.com.au
It should also be noted that Australia has also been doing very low sequencing of samples since August 2022 and this is very risky as researchers, physicians and health authorities are not getting a proper perspective of what is really brewing in term of virus evolution and emergence!
covSPECTRUM
covSPECTRUM is an interactive platform aiming to help scientists investigate and identify variants of SARS-CoV-2.
cov-spectrum.org
What is interesting is that COVID-19 deaths in Australia started shooting up in 2022 and some are claiming that the COVID-19 shots could be a contributing factor.
View: https://twitter.com/LettersfromTim/status/1611174897820266496
View: https://twitter.com/LettersfromTim/status/1611168566275092482
It will be interesting in coming weeks to see what really happens in Australia as already some interesting new variants have just been identified in the country!
Highly Divergent BQ.1.1 Sublineage, 27 Private Nuc Mutations, Probable Molnupiravir Origin (11 seq) · Issue #1517 · cov-lineages/pango-designation
Description Sub-lineage of: BQ.1.1 Earliest sequence: 2022-12-9, Australian Capital Territory — EPI_ISL_16359648 Most recent sequence: 2022-12-15, Australian Capital Territory — EPI_ISL_16359724, E...
github.com
XBF (S:F486P) with S:F490P and Orf1b:V1021F from Australia - 4 sequences · Issue #1514 · cov-lineages/pango-designation
I spotted yesterday this sublineage of XBF that now doubled to 4 sequences. So i prudentially propose it being a first time we see S:486P + S:490P Gisaid query: Spike_F486P,Spike_F490P,Nsp1_K120N f...
github.com
CH.1.1.1 Sublineage with S:L176F, S:Q613H, N:T265I (16 seq, Jan 2) · Issue #1493 · cov-lineages/pango-designation
Description Sub-lineage of: CH.1.1.1 Earliest sequence: 2022-11-6, Australia – EPI_ISL_15808174 (2nd sequence 2022-11-28, Wales) Most recent sequence: 2022-12-8, Wales – EPI_ISL_16282012 Countries ...
github.com
Heliobas Disciple
TB Fanatic
A Summer of Illness and Excess Death in Australia
Covid Worsened Dramatically - but no UNVACCINATED in hospitals!
igorchudov.substack.com
A Summer of Illness and Excess Death in Australia
Covid Worsened Dramatically - but no UNVACCINATED in hospitals!
Igor Chudov
4 hr ago
January marks the middle of summer in Australia.
Unfortunately, despite “health experts” hoping that Covid is a seasonal disease and would go away in summer, Australia is in the middle of yet another wave of Covid.
New South Wales, one of the Australian provinces, publishes “weekly surveillance reports.” Compared to November, COVID hospitalizations more than tripled, according to the latest report.
Here’s the strange part: the unvaccinated comprise exactly ZERO out of 1,779 hospitalized people. If we are to believe that unvaccinated people die of Covid without ever being hospitalized (a phenomenon seen only in NSW and not anywhere in the world), only 6% of deaths in NSW are unvaccinated.
94% of deaths are in vaccinated people, but only 84.3% are vaccinated:
Deaths Without Hospitalizations?
NSW health authorities want us to believe that unvaccinated people die of Covid without being hospitalized before dying!While people certainly do die without being hospitalized, the pattern I compiled from recent reports is odd:
The table shows that out of 27 dead unvaccinated people, only four were hospitalized before death. Not sure about you, but to me, this isn't easy to accept. Are they counting any deaths with “unknown” status as unvaccinated to pad their numbers?
More Vaccine Doses - More Hospitalizations!
I looked at persons over 16 in NSW and compiled hospitalization data (with known status) and percentages of the population with the respective number of doses.
While some of this is explained by age affecting the number of vaccines received, the NSW data shows the utter failure of Covid vaccines.
A year ago, NSW health minister Brad Hazzard said at 2:12:
There is no question that we will NOT get out of this pandemic without a very substantial portion of our population being vaccinated.
2 min 35 sec
Now this “substantial portion,” sadly, is quite sick as Brad is nearing his retirement - while no unvaccinated people are in NSW’s hospitals.
Excess mortality in Australia runs at 17% of their usual mortality. This statistic is understated because the Australian Bureau of Statistics includes 2021 as part of the 2022 “baseline,” despite 2021 also being marked by a significant amount of excess deaths that occurred due to their vaccination drive. Thus, the true number of excess deaths in Australia is about 20%. The chart only goes until 18th of September - so it will not catch the spike of deaths we discussed in the first half of the article.
What awaits Australia in 2023? We do not know, and Covid proved everyone’s past predictions wrong. I cannot see how these endless waves of Covid will end when people's immunity worldwide is unset by reckless vaccinations.
The only thing that I know is that if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging, so I hope that Australians will soon stop taking COVID vaccines.
Is the Australian public waking up? I am far from certain about that! What do you think?
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
These things are exactly what we ARE doing!
I’m the only one wearing a mask at work, albeit the mask….comes off a lot. But not off at the grocery or at the gas station.
I do believe the stories are true to be honest.
My initial question was a rhetorical one.
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Zoner
Veteran Member
I was wonderingMy initial question was a rhetorical one.
rob0126
Veteran Member
Wow, so they admit vaccinated people shed.
If you replace Mao Zedongs name with 'A fallen angel', then it starts to make sense.
The ccp leaders are loaded with devils, if they believe that.
And so they will get a devils reward unless they repent and turn to the One True God.
Yeah. People who are infected shed virus. That's how viruses spread.
Those who are vaccinated don't shed as much so are less contagious.
Profit of Doom
Dismember
That little dipshit is at it again.
Profit of Doom
Dismember
Somebody has a hardon for somebody! Any ideas who or what?
Zoner
Veteran Member
The truth is starting to emerge as these cockroaches run to cover
View: https://twitter.com/doc_singing/status/1611709390893219842?s=20&t=4M73fNsQuoD85-LRXlzAGA
View: https://twitter.com/doc_singing/status/1611709390893219842?s=20&t=4M73fNsQuoD85-LRXlzAGA
Zoner
Veteran Member
This has legs and if true is very disturbing.
View: https://twitter.com/ZombyWoof2022/status/1611790750198398982?s=20&t=4M73fNsQuoD85-LRXlzAGA
View: https://twitter.com/ZombyWoof2022/status/1611790750198398982?s=20&t=4M73fNsQuoD85-LRXlzAGA
Krayola
Veteran Member
Before ingesting it, open up the capsule and try a skin test first to see if you have any reactions.
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Great idea, thank you
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Autism! It’s listed among the 405 diseases caused by the vaxx!
View: https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1611873155215147009?cxt=HHwWgoCy-YaGw94sAAAA
View: https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1611873155215147009?cxt=HHwWgoCy-YaGw94sAAAA
Capt. Eddie
Veteran Member
Truth was on life support beforehand, the last two years not only put a pillow over its face but then sat an elephant on the pillow, shot the pillow repeatedly with a 50BMG, and then set off a tactical nuke in the room.