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Heliobas Disciple

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HD, at least they’re now saying openly it is the vaxxed who are the most sickest!

I’m not “counting my own chickens” before they’re hatched, I can promise you that. But I ***think, I’m watching this happen in real time with two coworkers. At least one of them, anyway.
She’s vaxxed up. She’s only worked for us since late spring? That girl has been sick the entire time.
She’s had covid 2-3 times. (Twice since our place? )…..she’s called off sick at LEAST once monthly.
Two weeks ago she had a coughing, snotty, hacking, drippy cold bug.
(I caught that from her but it was NOTHING as bad as hers was, not at all. I immediately doubled up on protocols, though, too)


This Sunday, she took ANOTHER Covid test but turns out she has a severe flu….stomach, fever, GI both ends , shaking type flu and not getting any better. A different coworker saw her yesterday and told me the girl looks very bad.

She’s in late 20’s probably or very early 30’s…overweight, probably other issues too, and from what I’ve seen, she lives on fast food/junk.

The same thing with another kid there. Same overweight issues and ALWAYS sick with something. It’s unreal!

I feel bad for them, honestly.
I could go on and on.

I'm sorry for them also. No one deserves that. Even if they make an unwise decision thinking they are making a good one.

As for the percentages of vaxxed dying - it's still a larger percentage of the group of unvaxxed who are dying. If 80% of the population is vaxxed, and the vaxx offered no help at all, 80% of those deaths would be among the vaxxed. But it's not - it's only 58%, so right now the vaxx does help prevent serious illness and death in some who are vaxxed vs. those who are not vaxxed. That's not disputed, even Geert discusses this and why it's helping them (see the interview transcript I posted a few posts up). HOWEVER, the percentage of those who have been harmed by the vaxx among the vaxxed and the unvaxxed is a different story because obviously zero percent of the unvaxxed are harmed by the vaxx (unless they have some effects from shedding). We still don't have an accurate answer of how many vaxxed have been harmed by it, or will be harmed by it in the years to come, especially if Geert's predictions come to fruition. But it's going to be a lot larger than 0% of the unvaxxed .... Of course, no MSM outlet is going to bring that comparison up. Nor will we get a comparison of the percentage of unvaxxed who died of covid vs. the percentage of vaxxed who died of or had other long lasting effects from the vaxx so someone still on the fence can factor that into their decision making process.

Happy and healthy Thanksgiving to all on the thread!

HD
 

Heliobas Disciple

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BREAKING! SARS-CoV-3 That Poses High Human Threat Identified In Bats In Yunnan Province In China. A Recombinant SARS-CoV-2 And SARS-CoV-1
Thailand Medical News
Nov 25, 2022 5 hrs ago

Chinese researchers from Sun Yat-Sen University, Fudan University, Yunnan Institute of Endemic Disease Control and Prevention, Yunnan University, National Institute for Viral Disease Control and Prevention-Beijing, City University of Hong Kong along with Australian scientists from University of Sydney have discovered a recombinant strain of SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV-2 viruses in bats found in the Yunnan province of China.

As the new recombinant coronavirus can effectively utilize the human ACE2 receptor, it poses an immediate high zoonotic risk! Many scientists and COVID-19 News outlets have already started labelling it as SARS-CoV-3!

In fact, unverified sources are claiming that this new virus is already causing small clusters of infections among people in parts of China. Considering unexplained hard tactics to control the current COVID-19 surges occurring across the country while the West are simply taking a policy of leaning to live with the virus coupled with the fact that China has been reluctant to share genomic sequencing data and also publicly inform what variants and sub-lineages are responsible for the current surges in their country, these claims could well be true!

Bats are reservoir hosts for many zoonotic viruses. Despite this, relatively little is known about the diversity and abundance of viruses within bats at the level of individual animals, and hence the frequency of virus co-infection and inter-species transmission.

Utilizing an unbiased meta-transcriptomics approach, the study team characterized the mammalian associated viruses present in 149 individual bats sampled from Yunnan province, China.

Interestingly, this revealed a high frequency of virus co-infection and species spillover among the animals studied, with 12 viruses shared among different bat species, which in turn facilitates virus recombination and reassortment.

Importantly, the study team identified five viral species that are likely to be pathogenic to humans or livestock, including a novel recombinant SARS-like coronavirus that is closely related to both SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV, with only five amino acid differences between its receptor-binding domain sequence and that of the earliest sequences of SARS-CoV-2.

Detailed functional analysis showed that this recombinant coronavirus can utilize the human ACE2 receptor such that it is likely to be of high zoonotic risk.

The study findings highlight the common occurrence of inter-species transmission and co-infection of bat viruses, as well as their implications for virus emergence.

The study findings were published on a preprint server and are currently being peer reviewed.

It should be noted that whenever a single cell or organism carries more than one closely related virus at the same time there is a risk of viral crossover.

Hence, various coronaviruses and also other virus species found in bats is a conducive environment for more recombinant and reassortant events.

The study team found two SARS like viruses in the Bats ie BtSY1 and BtSY2 with one being closer related to original SARS-CoV and the other closer to SARS-CoV-2 upon detailed Spike and N gene analysis.

Alarmingly however, upon when looking at the RdRp gene, both BtSY1 and BtSY2 seems to cluster around the SARS-CoV-2 original strain but some regions of BtSY2 are SARS1 like, others SARS2 like, strongly indicating that the virus is a recombinant between SARS-CoV1 and SARS-CoV-2!

Significantly, the receptor binding domain of BtSY2 is (94% identity) is closely identical to the original SARS-CoV2 Wuhan strain and the NTD is even more similar.

The study team using detailed functional analysis found that the Bat SARS-like coronavirus BtSY2 has the ability to bind to the human ACE2 receptor, and even has slightly higher affinity than the original SARS-CoV-2 Wuhan strain, making it an immediate threat to humans.

Three of the five substitutions in the RBD - Q498H, N501Y and H519N - have been reported to increase affinity to human ACE2, and notably, the N501Y substitution is present in the Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Omicron variants of SARS-CoV-2.

In addition, the study team found that the nsp7-nsp14 proteins (in which nsp12 is the replicase, i.e., RdRp) of BtSY2 were closely related to those of SARS-CoV-1.

A comparative study showed that SARS-CoV can replicate more rapidly than SARS-CoV-2 in vitro, while another suggested that nsp14 is likely associated with virulence.

Worryingly, these data tentatively suggest that BtSY2 may be able to replicate rapidly with similar virulence as SARS-CoV. Although this issue merits further consideration, this virus is potentially of high risk of emergence and so should be monitored carefully.

The study team also identified another four viruses of concern, likely to be pathogenic in humans or livestock. Bat SARS-like virus BtSY1 is closely related to SARS-CoV-2, Rhinolophus bat coronavirus HKU2-like is closely related to SADS-CoV, which causes severe diarrhea and death in swine, Rotavirus A causes diarrhea in humans, while Mammalian orthoreovirus is known to have a broad host range and cause diarrhea in swine.

Interestingly, all these viruses of concern were found in more than one bat species in the samples, suggesting that these potentially zoonotic viruses may have a broader host range or have a higher rate of spillover than other viruses.

With mankind invading more and more into natural reservoirs of wild mammals it is only a question of when humans will pick up the next virus(if they have not already done so!) and which one it will be. Recombination of viral genomes is happening and the reservoir of new but closely related species are expanding rapidly.
 

psychgirl

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The clock is ticking, this time though the source is well known. I guess we need to keep an eye open at flutrackers.
Yep

This possibility reallllly bums me out.
And….I’ve been fighting this “weird cold bug” for 8 days now.
Started last Thursday
Up and down…feeling achey again today but im at work. .
Well, a coworker tested positive this morning
I worked with her for 10 hours Wednesday


Last Saturday, I worked with ANOTHER positive coworker for four hours.


Im wondering if IM the one who has it amd been me all along spreading it?
 

Heliobas Disciple

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Yep

This possibility reallllly bums me out.
And….I’ve been fighting this “weird cold bug” for 8 days now.
Started last Thursday
Up and down…feeling achey again today but im at work. .
Well, a coworker tested positive this morning
I worked with her for 10 hours Wednesday


Last Saturday, I worked with ANOTHER positive coworker for four hours.


Im wondering if IM the one who has it amd been me all along spreading it?
Feel better! I assume you tested negative. Maybe you just don't test positive (even if you have it). Those tests are definitely not perfect....

HD
 

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Funeral CEO Reveals the Shocking Number of Deaths He’s Seeing This Year
Facts Matter with Roman Balmakov
3 days ago

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baKvcSgZSV0
15 min 48 sec (includes a paid promotion in the middle)



CEO of largest funeral home company in the USA told his stockholders on the quarterly earnings call that in the third quarter of 2022, they did 15% more calls than they did in the third quarter of 2019. When covid first came to be, in 2020, they had a 20% increase - expected for a pandemic. But 2020, there aren't that many covid deaths - and yet they went up 15% this quarter compared to 2019. Similar increase in life insurance claims.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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The new virus I posted about yesterday is starting to make more 'mainstream' news in the UK.


ETA:
EDITED OUT THE ARTICLE. I forgot the site is on the proscribed list of sources we can't post or reference. Sorry!

HD
 
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Covid-like virus is discovered lurking in bats in southern China - and scientists say it has the potential to jump to HUMANS
By Jonathan Chadwick For Mailonline
Published: 05:06 EST, 25 November 2022 | Updated: 05:44 EST, 25 November 2022
  • Researchers in China have taken samples from 149 bats across Yunnan province
  • They found five 'viruses of concern' that have the potential to spread to humans
  • The Covid-like virus known as BtSY2 has similarities to SARS-CoV-2

A Covid-like virus discovered lurking in bats in southern China is one of five with the potential to jump to humans, scientists say.

The virus, known as BtSY2, is closely related to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid, and is 'at particular risk for emergence'.

It's one of five 'viruses of concern' found in bats across China's Yunnan province that are 'likely to be pathogenic to humans or livestock', the scientists say.

The team warn of potential new 'zoonotic' diseases – those caused by pathogens that pass to humans from other animals.

The research was led by researchers at Sun Yat-sen University in Shenzhen, the Yunnan Institute of Endemic Disease Control and the University of Sydney.

It has been detailed in a new study published as a preprint paper, yet to be peer-reviewed, on the bioRxiv server.

'We identified five viral species that are likely to be pathogenic to humans or livestock, including a novel recombinant SARS-like coronavirus that is closely related to both SARS-CoV-2 and 50 SARS-CoV,' the team say in the paper.

'Our study highlights the common occurrence of inter-species transmission and co-infection of bat viruses, as well as their implications for virus emergence.'

For the study, the researchers collected rectum samples from 149 individual bats representing 15 species, in six counties or cities in China's Yunnan province.

RNA – nucleic acid present in living cells – was extracted and sequenced individually for each individual bat.

Concerningly, the researchers noted a high frequency of multiple viruses infecting a single bat at one time.

This can lead to existing viruses swapping bits of their genetic code – a process known as recombination – to form new pathogens, according to Professor Jonathan Ball, a virologist at the University of Nottingham.

'The main take-home message is that individual bats can harbour a plethora of different virus species, occasionally playing host to them at the same time,' Professor Ball, who was not involved in the research, told the Telegraph.

'Such co-infections, especially with related viruses like coronavirus, give the virus opportunity to swap critical pieces of genetic information, naturally giving rise to new variants,' he said.

BtSY2 also has a 'receptor binding domain' – a key part of the spike protein used to latch onto cells human cells – that's similar to SARS-CoV-2, suggesting the virus can infect humans.

'BtSY2 may be able to utilize [the] human ACE2 receptor for cell entry,' the team add.

ACE2 is a receptor on the surface of human cells that binds to SARS-CoV-2 and allows it to enter and infect.

Yunnan province in southwestern China has already been identified as a hotspot for bat species and bat-borne viruses.

A number of pathogenic viruses have been detected there, including close relatives of SARS-CoV-2, such as bat viruses RaTG1313 and RpYN0614.

The team did not speculate on the origins of SARS-CoV-2, which is related to the SARS-CoV-1 virus that caused the 2002-2004 SARS outbreak.

Evidence already suggests SARS-CoV-2 originated in horseshoe bats, although it's likely the virus passed to humans through pangolins, a scaly mammal often confused for a reptile.

Likewise, it's thought the lethal outbreak of the Ebola virus in Western Africa between 2013 and 2016 stemmed from bats.

Yunnan, the region identified by the new study, is also home to pangolins, which are consumed as food in China and are also used in traditional medicine.

According to a 2021 study in the journal Science of the Total Environment, it's possible the virus jumped from bats to Sunda pangolins and masked palm civits in Yunnan.

They were then captured and transported to a wildlife market in Wuhan, more than 1,200 miles away, where the initial Covid outbreaks occurred.
 

psychgirl

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Feel better! I assume you tested negative. Maybe you just don't test positive (even if you have it). Those tests are definitely not perfect....

HD
I didn’t test this time because I never had a fever , I just felt rotten.
Maybe I should have anyway, but by now it’s probably too late even though I’m still not totally up to par.
How long do you think the virus will test positive?
 

Heliobas Disciple

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I didn’t test this time because I never had a fever , I just felt rotten.
Maybe I should have anyway, but by now it’s probably too late even though I’m still not totally up to par.
How long do you think the virus will test positive?
I don't know but it's probably too late to test now. How are you feeling? Is everyone at work feeling better?

HD
 

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Omicron BQ COVID-19 Variants Now Make Up Over Half of US Cases: CDC

By Mimi Nguyen Ly
November 27, 2022

The COVID-19 Omicron subvariants BQ.1 and BQ.1.1 have risen to comprise over half of new coronavirus infections in the United States in the past week, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The CDC’s weekly variant update shows that BQ.1.1 has been responsible for 29.4 percent of new closely followed by BQ.1 which accounted for 27.9 percent. Together, the two strains make up 57.3 percent of new coronavirus infections recorded in the United States in the week ending on Nov. 26.

Meanwhile, the Omicron BA. 5 subvariant, which was dominant in the United States from July to October, now comprise about a fifth of new COVID-19 cases.

According to the World Health Organization, BQ.1 and BQ.1.1 are among the more than 300 sublineages of the Omicron variant circulating globally.

The two subvariants have genetic mutations that make it harder for the immune system to combat the virus. This enables it to infect people who had immunity from either previous infections or vaccinations. The risk of severe illness remains highest for the elderly and those with underlying health conditions whose immune systems are compromised.

Symptoms for BQ.1. and BQ1.1. appear to be similar to previous variants of COVID-19 for now and may include fatigue, muscle or body aches, headache, sore throat, cough, congestion or runny nose, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, nausea or vomitting, and diarrhea.

The subvariants are circulating amid the spread of other respiratory viruses, including respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) and influenza.

Resistance to Antibody Treatments


Both Omicron BQ.1 and BQ.1.1 are “likely to be resistant” to currently used anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibodies (mAbs)—specifically, bebtelovimab and Evusheld (tixagevimab and cilgavimab), according to the National Institutes of Health (NIH). This is due to mutations in the spike protein of BQ.1 and BQ.1.1.

The NIH noted that ritonavir-boosted nirmatrelvir (Paxlovid), remdesivir, and molnupiravir are still “expected to be active against these resistant subvariants.”

Separately, a study by scientists in Germany published Nov. 18 in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal showed that BQ.1.1 “is resistant to all approved antibody therapies” in the country. The study showed that use of various mAbs were unable to cause “appreciable neutralisation” of BQ.1.1.

Eric Topol, founder of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, told TIME in October that BQ.1.1 is the more concerning of the two subvariants, as it is “just riddled with troublesome mutations” that could “pose a threat to our immune system’s response.”

Resistance to Vaccines

Both BQ.1 and BQ.1.1, compared to earlier Omicron versions, also appear to be better at evading neutralizing antibodies generated by COVID-19 vaccination or the body’s immune system, according to a study published Nov. 22 in the journal Cell Host & Microbe.

“In general, the subvariants BQ.1 and BQ.1.1 are much better compared to prior variants at evading the [vaccine] booster-mediated antibody response—the neutralizing antibody titers are clearly much lower,” said Shan-Lu Liu, the senior author of the study, per Ohio State News.

Liu, a professor in the Department of Veterinary Biosciences and in the Department of Microbial Infection and Immunity at The Ohio State University, said that people should “be aware while traveling and gathering over the holidays that SARS-CoV-2 variants are continuing to evolve.”

The study he and colleagues conducted suggested that BQ.1 and BQ.1.1 can enter the cells of the human body more efficiently and force those cells to fuse together, which is a step in viral infection that can cause the disease to progress further, thereby increasing the risk of people developing symptoms—including severe symptoms—and becoming infectious.

“From my perspective, this is cause for concern because the original Omicron variant was not very pathogenic—it did not cause much cell fusion at all,” Liu said. “But we now see a trend with these new subvariants of increased cell fusion, and that trend puts the virus in a better position to cause infection and pathogenesis.”

Pfizer-BioNTech stated on Nov. 18 that its latest Omicron BA.4/BA.5-adapted bivalent booster can induce neutralizing antibodies against BQ.1.1.

Meanwhile, Moderna stated on Nov. 14 that its Omicron-targeting bivalent booster still showed “robust neutralizing activity against BQ.1.1.” in an analysis of about 40 participants. This, however, represented a 5-fold drop in titers compared to BA.4/BA.5.

XBB a New Variant of Concern

Besides BQ.1 and BQ1.1., the CDC noted in its weekly variant update that a new COVID-19 variant of concern referred to as XBB now comprises 3.1 of new cases in the country.

Preliminary estimates (pdf) in early November via the agency suggested that XBB, first named by scientists in September, is doubling in proportion about every 12 days.

By October, the CDC stated it was “keeping a close eye” on the XBB subvariant.

White House chief medical adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci said on Nov. 22 that protection with the new vaccine boosters, which were designed against Omicron BA.5, “is diminished multifold with XBB” and as such, people who are vaccinated “could expect some protection, but not the optimal protection.”
 

psychgirl

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I don't know but it's probably too late to test now. How are you feeling? Is everyone at work feeling better?

HD
No, not yet, and I’m gonna bet there’ll be others come down with Covid this week.
There’ll all susceptible to illness in that building
I’m feeling 95% better. Thank God!
Nothing resembling Covid yet, not in this house

I think I’d have it by now, don’t you? It’s been five days since full exposure.
 

psychgirl

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I don't know but it's probably too late to test now. How are you feeling? Is everyone at work feeling better?

HD
Actually….I did consider taking one of those quick/rapid antibody blood stick tests at Kroger pharmacy
But antibodies take a couple of weeks to develop don’t they?

I’d do it just out of curiosity
 

Heliobas Disciple

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Actually….I did consider taking one of those quick/rapid antibody blood stick tests at Kroger pharmacy
But antibodies take a couple of weeks to develop don’t they?

I’d do it just out of curiosity
They have rapid antibody tests? The only one I had heard about were around $80 at some lab in the back of walgreens or cvs. Do you know more about the rapid antibody test? Do you have more info? Thanks!
 

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Next major COVID variant IS poised to be more deadly, doctors warn after studying patient who harbored Omicron for six months
By Cassidy Morrison Senior Health Reporter For Dailymail.Com
Published: 13:06 EST, 28 November 2022 | Updated: 15:40 EST, 28 November 2022
  • South African researchers found that the Covid infection mutates over time
  • An HIV-infected patient saw cell death and fusion increase over six months
  • This indicates a new more dangerous variant could arise from milder omicron

The world's next major Covid variant is poised to be more severe than the mild strains that are currently world-dominant, according to a new study.

The ultra-infectious Omicron strain emerged almost exactly a year ago and its mutated spinoffs have risen to the top in virtually every country in the world.

They are far milder than the older versions of the virus and many researchers believed they represented a kind of end game for Covid’s evolution, which like many viruses before it, mutate to be more mild so they can spread more easily.

But researchers in South Africa say the virus still has the potential to get deadlier after examining an immunocompromised HIV patient who harbored the virus for half a year.

Over time, the virus evolved to cause more cell death and cell fusion, leading to increased inflammation in the lungs. These effects more closely resembled those of the ancestral Covid strain than the Omicron strain, according to Professor Alex Sigal, the virologist who led the study.

The patient studied is one of the longest known sufferers of Omicron, which itself is widely believed to have evolved in someone with a severely weakened immune system.

Immunocompromised people cannot adequately clear out infection, which allows the virus to continually replicate and mutate in their body over time, before spreading to others with its new alterations.

Still, the findings from South Africa represent just one theory about the future of Covid's spread and protection gained through vaccination and prior infection puts the US - and world - in a stronger position to beat back another deadly surge.

The finding comes amid warnings that China's unrelenting Covid outbreak could spawn a doomsday variant which has the potential to send the world back to square one in its fight against the virus.

China's draconian 'zero-Covid' policy has driven economic hardship and residents back into isolation. Cases have doubled within a fortnight across the country, where the pandemic began almost three years ago. A record 40,000 people are now testing positive every day, with millions subject to restrictions.

The omicron variant has proven to cause less severe disease than the original Covid strain as well as the alpha and delta variants.

The team’s findings do not bode well for the global response to the ongoing public health issue.
The latest study was carried out by researchers from the Africa Health Research Institute in the South African city of Durban, which was the first lab to test the original Omicron against the older vaccines and show that strain significantly weakened their effects.

Researchers looked at regular blood samples from the long-term Covid patient who was infected with Omicron.

They sequenced viral samples from the patients blood shortly after they were diagnosed with Covid, then within the first month of diagnosis, and then at three-month intervals.

They studied changes to the virus' genetic makeup, as well as how infected human cells behaved.

As time from first diagnoses went on, cell death became more frequent.

When the patient was first infected with Omicron, around four per cent of human cells that were infected died. That was about a third the level of the Wuhan strain that first emerged in late 2019, which killed about 12 per cent of infected cells.

At day six after diagnosis, less than six per cent of cells were detected as dead. By day 20, that rate increased to nearly seven per cent.

The frequency of cell death, which represented how severity of disease changed, spiked again to nearly 10 per cent at day 190, roughly the same rate as that of the original Wuhan strain.

Dr Sigal said: ‘It's not simple because early virus was attenuated. However, by parameters we measured, it became less attenuated, showing that long-term evolution does not always lead to attenuation.

‘Therefore, the next major variant, if it comes, may not necessarily be as mild as Omicron.’

Covid-19 disease leads to cell death, causing systeming inflammatory effects.

The finding came as a shock to the researchers, who hypothesized that strains of Covid-19 will become less virulent and infectious over time judging by the relative mildness of omicron compared to previous variants.

In China, the daily case rate began to shoot upwards one month ago and this weekend hit 39,791 — nine in 10 of which were asymptomatic, according to data from the National Health Commission. The more Covid is permitted to spread, the more it can replicate and mutate.

Dr Simon Clarke, a microbiologist based at the University of Reading, told MailOnline: 'Every single Covid infection presents the virus with an opportunity to change its characteristics.

'The idea that this only leads to decreased lethality is simply wrong; having effective population-wide immunity seems to have had a much more substantial protective effect, but compared to the vaccines used here it seems that China's is less effective, which might be contributing to their problem.

The US has been bracing for a surge in Covid during the winter months which, for the most part, has been overshadowed by the explosion of RSV and flu cases.

Patients in many states where hospitals are swamped are being transferred hundreds of miles in helicopters in search of an available bed.

Even major hospitals such as Mass General for Children in Boston and Baltimore’s Johns Hopkins are stretched thin.

But the latest pre-print publication - which has not been peer-reviewed by other scientists - came with several caveats.

The hypothesis was only testing a single patient. A much larger sample size is needed to make a conclusion about the virus’ course of evolution.

The manuscript, published last week, does not indicate that the US must revert back to blanket mitigation measures such as compulsory masking.

But it bolsters government warnings that the pandemic remains a major public health issue.

Dr Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious disease expert and President Joe Biden’s chief medical advisor said on Sunday that the US is ‘certainly’ still in the middle of a Covid pandemic.

‘I think the idea that forget it, this is over — it isn’t,’ he said.

More than 23,000 people on average are in the hospital for Covid every day while average daily deaths are hovering between 300 and 400.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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ThailandMedicalNews reported on this a few days ago but I was waiting for a more MSM report to confirm. However, I think ThailandMedicalNews has proven itself to be ahead of the curve and I may not wait for another source to confirm in the future...



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COVID-19 News: Scientists Warn That Next SARS-CoV-2 Variants To Emerge Are Likely To Be More Lethal After Identifying Such A Variant In A HIV Patient
Thailand Medical News
2 days ago

International researchers led by the Sigal lab in Durban-South Africa are warning that contrary to the fallacy that is being disseminated by many so called ‘experts’, mainstream media, COVID-19 News
outlets and health authorities that the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus is evolving to be more milder, the next variants to emerge are likely to be more lethal and worrisome based on their recent study that identified such a variant in a HIV immunocompromised individual.

Many are making claims that based on the milder clinical manifestations of Omicron infection relative to pre-Omicron SARSCoV-2 raises the possibility that extensive evolution results in reduced pathogenicity.

In order to test this hypothesis, the study team quantified induction of cell fusion and cell death in SARSCoV-2 evolved from ancestral virus during long-term infection. Both cell fusion and death were reduced in Omicron BA.1 infection relative to ancestral virus.

Evolved virus was isolated at different times during a 6-month infection in an immunosuppressed individual with advanced HIV disease. The virus isolated 16 days post-reported symptom onset induced fusogenicity and cell death at levels similar to BA.1.

Alarmingly however, fusogenicity was increased in virus isolated at 6 months post-symptoms to levels intermediate between BA.1 and ancestral SARS-CoV-2. Similarly, infected cell death showed a graded increase from earlier to later isolates.

The study findings indicate that, at least by the cellular measures used here, evolution in long-term infection does not necessarily attenuate the virus.

The study findings were published on a preprint server and are currently being peer reviewed.


The study was led by Dr Alex Sigal at his labs at the Africa Health Research Institute in the South African city of Durban, indicated that the COVID-19 pathogen could continue to mutate and a new variant may cause more severe illness and death than the relatively mild omicron strain.

The Sigal lab using COVID-19 samples from an immunosuppressed individual has showed that the virus evolved to become more pathogenic with enhanced capabilities to cause more cell fusion and cell death.

The evolution of the virus over six months in an HIV immunocompromised patient showed that the newly emerged variant could cause more illness than the current predominant omicron strain.

The Sigal lab last year was to first test the omicron strain against vaccines and in this new study also studied the virus samples taken after six months from a HIV immunocomprised patient who was infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

The study found that in the past 6 months, the virus initially caused the same level of cell fusion and death as the omicron BA.1 strain, but as it evolved those levels rose to become similar to the first version of SARS-CoV-2 identified in Wuhan in China.

The study findings hopefully will make health authorit ies and ‘experts; rethink the current complacency over COVID-19 measures based on fallacies that the SARS-CoV-2 virus is becoming milder.

It should be noted that there are millions of individuals around the world who are immunocompromised and are potential reservoirs for the evolution of the current SARS-CoV-2 variants in circulation.

2023 is indeed going to be a fun year with the way that the whole COVID-19 pandemic is being mismanaged and the over emphasis on the COVID-19 shots.

The study team also comprised of scientists from:

-The Centre for the AIDS Programme of Research in South Africa, Durban, South Africa.

-Africa Health Research Institute, Durban, South Africa.

-Division of Infection and Immunity, University College London,UK.

-KwaZulu-Natal Research Innovation and Sequencing Platform, Durban, South Africa.

-School of Laboratory Medicine and Medical Sciences, University of KwaZulu-Natal, Durban, South Africa.

-Centre for Epidemic Response and Innovation (CERI), School of Data Science and Computational Thinking, Stellenbosch University, Stellenbosch, South Africa.

-Department of Global Health, University of Washington, Seattle - USA.

-Department of Epidemiology, Mailman School of Public Health, Columbia University, New York - USA.
 

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And since I'm not waiting for msm confirmation, here's another article they posted last night. The owner of the site and author can be a little overdramatic and sarcastic, I edited out those comments; no use throwing out the baby with the bathwater...the science aspect of his articles is spot on and he always provides links so the reader can verify what he's saying and where he got his info.

Btw, don't want to just bring doomer news as the last few posts seem to be, but they seem to be confirming Geert's theory so thought they were post worthy.


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BREAKING COVID-19 NEWS: Scientists Identify New Worrisome SARS-CoV-2 Omicron Sub-lineage CH.1.1 Spotting Delta’s P681R Mutation In Austria
Thailand Medical News
1 day ago

Researchers and virologist are extremely concerned about the emergence of a new SARS-CoV-2 Omicron sub-lineage CH.1.1 spotting Delta’s P681R mutation in Austria.

There is no data on where this strain emerged but to date it has been seen in 12 samples that were sent for genomic sequencing in patients hospitalized in Vorarlberg-Austria.

The CH.1.1 variant is a BA.2.75 descendant with the spike mutations R346T, K444T, L452R, and F486S ie somewhat similar to BQ.1.1.

Already it is a more worrisome variant as it is not only more transmissible and has a better growth advantage over the BQ.1.1 variant but because it has mutations on the NTD (spike residues 14-305), it is believed to be even more immune evasive than all the rest of the circulating variants and sub-lineages so far.

However, the debut of CH.1.1 variants spotting the Delta’s signature P681R mutation could spell problems as it means that the new sub-lineage will be more pathogenic and also likely to cause disease severity and risk of mortality.

The P681R mutation is believed to enhance cell fusogenicity and cause rapid formation of syncytia.



Previous COVID-19 News coverages have already detailed how bad the Delta surges were and how the Delta variant contributed to an increase in deaths and disease severity.

The new CH.1.1 with the P681R mutation has already bee designated in the last 24 hours.


However, the new variant has yet to be issued a name yet.

Some researchers believe that this new lineage could have originated via a recombinant event as interestingly, there seems to be a BF.7.9 (EPI_ISL_15816454 on 2022-11-08) and an AY.78 (EPI_ISL_15746291 on 2022-10-31) with the S:P681R mutation found in the same time period, also in Austria. It could be possible that this lineage is a recombinant with the BF.7.9 sub-lineage.

This new lineage was spotted by a few virologists and independent researchers:

View: https://twitter.com/BorisUitham/status/1596467369563521024


View: https://twitter.com/LongDesertTrain/status/1596199893357379584


View: https://twitter.com/EllingUlrich/status/1596512388295294977


View: https://twitter.com/health_enjoyer/status/1594986999793975303


View: https://twitter.com/JosetteSchoenma/status/1596491305663594499


Researchers are keeping a close surveillance on this new lineage.

To date, COVID-19 infections are rising in Austria and interestingly in Vorarlberg, an increase in COVID-19 hospitalizations has been observed but there is no concrete evidence as to whether this new lineage is behind these or whether it is causing disease severity.

While the various Omicron variants and sub-lineages are still evolving rapidly and spawning more transmissible and immune evasive sub-lineages that are able to cause breakthrough infections and reinfections and create non-stop surges, they do not seem to contribute to immediate hospitalizations or increase in mortality except for those in the vulnerable groups (ie the aged, the young, the obese, the immunocompromised, those with existing comorbidities like diabetes hypertension, heart issues and kidney issues and also those with certain genetic defects.) However, as far as long COVID issues and other long term medical complications and also excess deaths, these new Omicron variants and sub-lineages are playing a very contributing role.



However, the public should be aware the many of the older variants such as even the original Wuhan strain, the alpha, beta, delta, gamma variants etc and their own novel sub-lineages are still in circulation and also are in certain human reservoirs including the immunocompromised and with the current kinetics of the COVID-19 pandemic and the relaxation of various measures, the prospect of recombinant or reassortant events or even such events taking place in animal reservoirs and then spreading back to humans via zoonotic transmissions is very likely. [...]
 

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They have rapid antibody tests? The only one I had heard about were around $80 at some lab in the back of walgreens or cvs. Do you know more about the rapid antibody test? Do you have more info? Thanks!
Kroger pharmacy here does both; rapid antibody and the send to the lab kind.
The rapid one I did last spring was 15$
Took 15 minutes maybe?

Central Indiana.
You just get an online appointment just like a Covid test
 

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Next major COVID variant IS poised to be more deadly, doctors warn after studying patient who harbored Omicron for six months
By Cassidy Morrison Senior Health Reporter For Dailymail.Com
Published: 13:06 EST, 28 November 2022 | Updated: 15:40 EST, 28 November 2022
  • South African researchers found that the Covid infection mutates over time
  • An HIV-infected patient saw cell death and fusion increase over six months
  • This indicates a new more dangerous variant could arise from milder omicron

The world's next major Covid variant is poised to be more severe than the mild strains that are currently world-dominant, according to a new study.

The ultra-infectious Omicron strain emerged almost exactly a year ago and its mutated spinoffs have risen to the top in virtually every country in the world.

They are far milder than the older versions of the virus and many researchers believed they represented a kind of end game for Covid’s evolution, which like many viruses before it, mutate to be more mild so they can spread more easily.

But researchers in South Africa say the virus still has the potential to get deadlier after examining an immunocompromised HIV patient who harbored the virus for half a year.

Over time, the virus evolved to cause more cell death and cell fusion, leading to increased inflammation in the lungs. These effects more closely resembled those of the ancestral Covid strain than the Omicron strain, according to Professor Alex Sigal, the virologist who led the study.

The patient studied is one of the longest known sufferers of Omicron, which itself is widely believed to have evolved in someone with a severely weakened immune system.

Immunocompromised people cannot adequately clear out infection, which allows the virus to continually replicate and mutate in their body over time, before spreading to others with its new alterations.

Still, the findings from South Africa represent just one theory about the future of Covid's spread and protection gained through vaccination and prior infection puts the US - and world - in a stronger position to beat back another deadly surge.

The finding comes amid warnings that China's unrelenting Covid outbreak could spawn a doomsday variant which has the potential to send the world back to square one in its fight against the virus.

China's draconian 'zero-Covid' policy has driven economic hardship and residents back into isolation. Cases have doubled within a fortnight across the country, where the pandemic began almost three years ago. A record 40,000 people are now testing positive every day, with millions subject to restrictions.

The omicron variant has proven to cause less severe disease than the original Covid strain as well as the alpha and delta variants.

The team’s findings do not bode well for the global response to the ongoing public health issue.
The latest study was carried out by researchers from the Africa Health Research Institute in the South African city of Durban, which was the first lab to test the original Omicron against the older vaccines and show that strain significantly weakened their effects.

Researchers looked at regular blood samples from the long-term Covid patient who was infected with Omicron.

They sequenced viral samples from the patients blood shortly after they were diagnosed with Covid, then within the first month of diagnosis, and then at three-month intervals.

They studied changes to the virus' genetic makeup, as well as how infected human cells behaved.

As time from first diagnoses went on, cell death became more frequent.

When the patient was first infected with Omicron, around four per cent of human cells that were infected died. That was about a third the level of the Wuhan strain that first emerged in late 2019, which killed about 12 per cent of infected cells.

At day six after diagnosis, less than six per cent of cells were detected as dead. By day 20, that rate increased to nearly seven per cent.

The frequency of cell death, which represented how severity of disease changed, spiked again to nearly 10 per cent at day 190, roughly the same rate as that of the original Wuhan strain.

Dr Sigal said: ‘It's not simple because early virus was attenuated. However, by parameters we measured, it became less attenuated, showing that long-term evolution does not always lead to attenuation.

‘Therefore, the next major variant, if it comes, may not necessarily be as mild as Omicron.’

Covid-19 disease leads to cell death, causing systeming inflammatory effects.

The finding came as a shock to the researchers, who hypothesized that strains of Covid-19 will become less virulent and infectious over time judging by the relative mildness of omicron compared to previous variants.

In China, the daily case rate began to shoot upwards one month ago and this weekend hit 39,791 — nine in 10 of which were asymptomatic, according to data from the National Health Commission. The more Covid is permitted to spread, the more it can replicate and mutate.

Dr Simon Clarke, a microbiologist based at the University of Reading, told MailOnline: 'Every single Covid infection presents the virus with an opportunity to change its characteristics.

'The idea that this only leads to decreased lethality is simply wrong; having effective population-wide immunity seems to have had a much more substantial protective effect, but compared to the vaccines used here it seems that China's is less effective, which might be contributing to their problem.

The US has been bracing for a surge in Covid during the winter months which, for the most part, has been overshadowed by the explosion of RSV and flu cases.

Patients in many states where hospitals are swamped are being transferred hundreds of miles in helicopters in search of an available bed.

Even major hospitals such as Mass General for Children in Boston and Baltimore’s Johns Hopkins are stretched thin.

But the latest pre-print publication - which has not been peer-reviewed by other scientists - came with several caveats.

The hypothesis was only testing a single patient. A much larger sample size is needed to make a conclusion about the virus’ course of evolution.

The manuscript, published last week, does not indicate that the US must revert back to blanket mitigation measures such as compulsory masking.

But it bolsters government warnings that the pandemic remains a major public health issue.

Dr Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious disease expert and President Joe Biden’s chief medical advisor said on Sunday that the US is ‘certainly’ still in the middle of a Covid pandemic.

‘I think the idea that forget it, this is over — it isn’t,’ he said.

More than 23,000 people on average are in the hospital for Covid every day while average daily deaths are hovering between 300 and 400.
I saw this story earlier today :(
 

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VSS Scientific Updates During Pandemic Times #47
by Geert Vanden Bossche
December 2, 2022


1. China's COVID Infections Hit Record


“Wednesday's 31,444 new local COVID-19 infections broke a record set on April 13, when the commercial hub of Shanghai was crippled by a city-wide lockdown of its 25 million residents that would last two months.”


2. This Thanksgiving, Be Grateful The Turkey On Your Table Avoided Avian Flu

From Geert: “I continue to emphasize that in highly vaccinated countries Bird Flu may start to spread asymptomatically via vaccinees and that C-19 unvaccinated who vaccinate against seasonal/common Flu are at high risk of contracting Ab-dependent enhancement of avian Flu disease!”


3. Next Covid-19 Strain May be More Dangerous, Lab Study Shows

“A South African laboratory study using Covid-19 samples from an immunosupressed individual over six months showed that the virus evolved to become more pathogenic, indicating that a new variant could cause more illness than the current predominant omicron strain.”


4. Experimental Flu Vaccine, Developed Using mRNA, Seen as Potential Game Changer?

From Geert: “These non-talents do not realize that what they are considering ‘absolution of antigenic sin’ is nothing else than immune refocusing. The latter occurs upon vaccine breakthrough infection, which explains why these vaccines are not protective against productive infection and disease but only against severe disease and death! What these pseudo-vaccinologists don’t say (or don’t know?) is that ‘immune refocusing-enabling breakthrough infections’ only provide short-lived protection and drive immune escape. Hence, if implemented at large scale, these vaccines will eventually drive co-circulation of highly infectious variants (in the same way that we’re currently observing with Omicron descendants). I am predicting with 200 % certainty that co- circulation of highly infectious variants paves the way to enhanced viral virulence in vaccinees. These professors should study the immune epidemiology of viruses chased by mass vaccination rather than continuing the eternal cycle of empiricism which has been the biggest shortcoming in vaccinology all along!”


5. Observed vs Expected Rates of Myocarditis After SARS-CoV-2 Vaccination

“Although absolute rates of myocarditis were low, vaccine type, age and sex are important factors to consider when strategizing vaccine administration to reduce the risk of postvaccination myocarditis. Our findings support the preferential use of the BNT162b2 vaccine over the mRNA-1273 vaccine for people aged 18–29 years.”

 

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Drop in COVID alertness could create deadly new variant - WHO
Bhanvi Satija
Fri, December 2, 2022, 9:40 AM

Lapses in strategies to tackle COVID-19 this year continue to create the perfect conditions for a deadly new variant to emerge, as parts of China witness a rise in infections, the head of the World Health Organization said on Friday.

The comments by WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus mark a change in tone just months after he said that the world has never been in a better position to end the pandemic.

"We are much closer to being able to say that the emergency phase of the pandemic is over, but we're not there yet," Tedros said on Friday.

The global health agency estimates that about 90% of the world's population now has some level of immunity to SARS-COV-2 either due to prior infection or vaccination.

"Gaps in testing ... and vaccination are continuing to create the perfect conditions for a new variant of concern to emerge that could cause significant mortality," Tedros said.

COVID-19 infections are at record highs in China and have started to rise in parts of Britain after months of decline.
Further easing of COVID-19 testing requirements and quarantine rules in some Chinese cities was met with a mix of relief and worry on Friday, as hundreds of millions await an expected shift in national virus policies after widespread social unrest.

"While COVID-19 and flu can be mild infections for many, we must not forget that they can cause severe illness or even death for those most vulnerable in our communities", Mary Ramsay, director of public health programmes at the UK Health Security Agency, said.

The WHO urged governments globally to focus on reaching those at risk, such as people over the age of 60 and those with underlying conditions, for vaccination.




VIDEO ON RUMBLE:

WHO Warns Gaps in Surveillance/Vaccination Could Give Rise to More Deadly Covid-19 Variant
December 2, 2022
1 min 56 sec
 

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Drop in COVID alertness could create deadly new variant - WHO
Bhanvi Satija
Fri, December 2, 2022, 9:40 AM

Lapses in strategies to tackle COVID-19 this year continue to create the perfect conditions for a deadly new variant to emerge, as parts of China witness a rise in infections, the head of the World Health Organization said on Friday.The comments by WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus mark a change in tone just months after he said that the world has never been in a better position to end the pandemic."We are much closer to being able to say that the emergency phase of the pandemic is over, but we're not there yet," Tedros said on Friday.The global health agency estimates that about 90% of the world's population now has some level of immunity to SARS-COV-2 either due to prior infection or vaccination.

"Gaps in testing ... and vaccination are continuing to create the perfect conditions for a new variant of concern to emerge that could cause significant mortality," Tedros said.

COVID-19 infections are at record highs in China and have started to rise in parts of Britain after months of decline.
Further easing of COVID-19 testing requirements and quarantine rules in some Chinese cities was met with a mix of relief and worry on Friday, as hundreds of millions await an expected shift in national virus policies after widespread social unrest.

"While COVID-19 and flu can be mild infections for many, we must not forget that they can cause severe illness or even death for those most vulnerable in our communities", Mary Ramsay, director of public health programmes at the UK Health Security Agency, said.

The WHO urged governments globally to focus on reaching those at risk, such as people over the age of 60 and those with underlying conditions, for vaccination.
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I was going to post that article without comment, but changed my mind ;).

When I read this, it seems to me that the WHO is now realizing that the "geert" variant may actually come into play in the near future. That's of course the first thing that jumped out at me.

But just as important is the fact that they are already positioning the narrative so as to place the blame for it on the unvaxxed,and not where it really lies, the vaccine driving variants that are reacting to the pressure placed on the virus by the vaccines.

His quote (and watch the video I posted too): "Gaps in testing ... and vaccination are continuing to create the perfect conditions for a new variant of concern to emerge that could cause significant mortality," Tedros said.

So this should be a double head's up.

1) The WHO is publically warning about the 'geert' variant - obviously not calling it that, that's my shorthand for readers of this thread who follow Geert, but they seem to now being agreeing with him that it's coming;

and

2) when it happens, they're going to blame the unvaxxed. Expect that and the consequences for that that will follow.

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I thought it would be here and happening by now. It probably is and we just don’t l is it yet due to all of the flu cases blurring the picture.

Geert originally thought it would be too but he has changed his thinking on when it will come. He still believes it will come, just not as fast as he thought. When it's here, you'll know, there will be no mistaking it. So it's not here yet. I am hoping that since Geert got the timing wrong, he hopefully got the rest of it wrong too. For instance, he's surprised that the vaxxed now have immunity to all kinds of other diseases, and that the vaxx is protecting them from avian flu, etc. He says its because it's elevating their tcells all the time which is helping them. Something he hadn't predicted either. (go up a page or two for his last interview, I posted the transcript). He's rethinking a lot of it; let's hope he rethinks the 'geert variant' thing too at some point. Although with comments like this from the WHO it's not looking too good...
 

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'BIGGEST COVER-UP IN HISTORY' I worked with the Wuhan lab – I tried to warn them & I KNOW Covid was a lab leak
Imogen Braddick
Published: 8:46, 3 Dec 2022Updated: 13:52, 3 Dec 2022

A SCIENTIST who worked closely with the Wuhan lab has claimed Covid was genetically engineered - and leaked from the facility.

Dr Andrew Huff, former vice president of EcoHealth Alliance, claims to have had a ringside seat to what he brands one of the greatest cover-ups in history - and the "biggest US intelligence failure since 9/11".

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Dr Andrew Huff was vice president of EcoHealth Alliance

The Wuhan Institute of Virology - a high security lab specialising in coronaviruses - has been in the eye of the storm as questions rage over whether Covid could have escaped from its lab.

Both China and the lab have furiously denied any allegations - but evidence of a lab leak has been piling up over the last two years as scientists, researchers and governments hunt for answers and step forward with evidence.

Dozens of experts have suggested Covid could have escaped from the Wuhan lab through an infected researcher, improper disposal of waste, or potential breaches in the security at the site.

Even the head of the World Health Organisation reportedly believes Covid did leak from the lab after a "catastrophic accident".

In his new book - The Truth About Wuhan - whistleblower Dr Huff claims the pandemic was the result of the US government's funding of dangerous genetic engineering of coronaviruses in China.

The epidemiologist said China’s gain-of-function experiments - carried out with shoddy biosecurity - led to a lab leak at the US-funded Wuhan Institute of Virology.

"EcoHealth Alliance and foreign laboratories did not have the adequate control measures in place for ensuring proper biosafety, biosecurity, and risk management, ultimately resulting in the lab leak at the Wuhan Institute of Virology," he said in his book, an exclusive pre-release copy of which was provided to The Sun Online.

EcoHealth Alliance had been studying different coronaviruses in bats for more than ten years with funding from the National Institutes of Health - and developed close working ties with the Wuhan lab.

Dr Huff, who worked at EcoHealth Alliance from 2014 to 2016 and served as vice president from 2015, worked on the classified side of the research programme as a US government scientist.

The army veteran, from Michigan, said the organisation taught the Wuhan lab the "best existing methods to engineer bat coronaviruses to attack other species" for many years.

And he claimed "China knew from day one that this was a genetically engineered agent".

"The US government is to blame for the transfer of dangerous biotechnology to the Chinese," he said.

Speaking to The Sun Online, Dr Huff added: "I was terrified by what I saw. We were just handing them bioweapon technology."

In his book, the emerging infectious diseases expert claims "greedy scientists killed millions of people globally" - and goes as far as to claim the US government covered it up.

Former intelligence chiefs and diplomats have already claimed Covid was leaked from a Wuhan lab in the "cover-up of the century".

Dr Huff said: "Nobody should be surprised that the Chinese lied about the outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 and then went to extraordinary lengths to make it appear as if the disease naturally emerged.

"The shocking part of all of this is how the United States government lied to all of us."

In 2009, the Wuhan lab started working with the EcoHealth Alliance on a USAID programme - called PREDICT - focusing on emerging pandemic threats.

PREDICT was designed to help detect and find zoonotic viruses with pandemic potential - including coronaviruses.

Shi Zhengli - the Wuhan virologist who famously became known as "Batwoman" - hoped the programme would create an early-warning system for pandemics.

But in 2014, Dr Huff was asked to review a funding proposal which revealed that gain of function work was being carried out to create SARS-CoV-2 - which causes Covid.

Gain of function work sees viruses souped up to more easily infect humans to help researchers test scientific theories, develop new technologies and find treatments for infectious diseases.

But the risky research method can pose safety and security concerns - and it's banned in many countries.

It was originally banned in the US in 2014 — but was reintroduced by the NIH in 2017.

Dr Huff realised the EcoHealth Alliance was working closely with the Wuhan lab on gain of function research, with the support of USAID - a US government department.

He soon realised the virus would never occur in nature and had been developed into a much more powerful pathogen in the lab.

Dr Huff believes Covid was genetically engineered in Wuhan through gain of function research funded by the US government - and poor biosafety led to a lab leak.

"EcoHealth Alliance developed SARS-CoV-2 and was responsible for the development of the agent SARS-CoV-2 during my employment at the organisation," he said.

Although he pointed out he has seen no evidence China deliberately released the virus.

Dr Huff believes the US-funded project was "mostly a global fishing expedition for coronaviruses" to carry out gain of function work or for intelligence collection - rather than preventing future pandemics.

"At the time, I felt like the project seemed more like intelligence collection than scientific research and development," he said in his book.

The scientist said the PREDICT programme wasn't collecting the data is should have been - and he told The Sun Online it appeared to be a "giant intelligence operation".

He alleges the US were using the project to assess the bioweapon capabilities of foreign labs - including the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

SOUNDING THE ALARM

During a meeting with top executives in 2015 and 2016, Dr Huff said he sounded the alarm over biosafety and biosecurity risks in contract laboratories.

"I was concerned that EcoHealth Alliance did not have enough visibility or firsthand knowledge of what was happening at foreign laboratories contracted and managed by EcoHealth Alliance," he said.

Dr Huff said US government officials again issued warnings in January 2018 about the Wuhan lab - including the major shortage of experts needed to safely manage research on deadly coronaviruses.

"It could be reasonably argued that EcoHealth Alliance set up China to fail," he said.

And when Covid emerged in late 2019, he said China "and some of their US government collaborators at the Department of State, USAID, and the Department of Defense went into full cover-up mode".

Dr Huff said he "has good reason to believe that the US government was alerted to the outbreak in August or October 2019".

He quit EcoHealth Alliance in 2016 "due to a large number of ethical concerns with the scientific work and EcoHealth Alliance as a whole".

But in late 2019, he was suddenly offered a position at Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) - and was told he would need top security clearance and a polygraph for the job.

Dr Huff now believes he was approached for the role to keep him quiet about the origins of Covid.

"It is my belief that people working within the US government potentially identified me as a risk to knowing firsthand that the SARS-CoV-2 disease emergence event was a consequence of the US government's sponsorship of the genetic engineering of SARS-CoV-2 domestically and abroad," he said in his book.

"If I would have accepted the position, then I suspect that DARPA would have disclosed restricted information to me, which would have consequently prevented me from discussing any of this information publicly, like I have been and am doing now."

He added: "About a month after the pandemic began, and I was adamant that SARS-CoV-2 was a manmade agent, I suddenly realised what the potential motivation and persistence for recruiting me were.

"The intelligence community realised that I was the only person in a senior position that had left EHA, and the fact I was working outside the government's control made me a threat to their agenda."

Dr Huff believes government officials offered him the role so he could be "sworn into silence for the rest of my life".

As he began to unravel the alleged extensive cover-up by the US government, he said the authorities launched a massive campaign of harassment against him.

He claimed military-grade drones would often appear at his home, he was stalked at the supermarket, and he was followed by unknown vehicles.

Dr Huff has since filed a lawsuit with Renz Law LLC against EcoHealth Alliance in the state of New York.

The National Institutes of Health previously stated in a letter to Congress the bat viruses EcoHealth Alliance were studying in Wuhan could not have become the virus that causes Covid.

The Truth about Wuhan: How I Uncovered the Biggest Lie in History by Dr Andrew Huff is out on December 6
 

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Is it, really, the flu?
That’s what people here are tested as having.
Why?
I also have a friend just recovering from RSV, too.

Nothing else showed up in testing. She said it’s just like a bad flu but testing was all negative for those and Covid.
 

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Congress set to rescind COVID-19 vaccine mandate for troops
Lolita C. Baldor and Kevin Freking
Tue, December 6, 2022, 9:47 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) — The COVID-19 vaccine mandate for members of the U.S. military would be rescinded under the annual defense bill heading for a vote this week in Congress, ending a directive that helped ensure the vast majority of troops were vaccinated but also raised concerns that it harmed recruitment and retention.

Republicans, emboldened by their new House majority next year, pushed the effort, which was confirmed Tuesday night when the bill was unveiled. House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy personally lobbied President Joe Biden in a meeting last week to roll back the mandate.

Rep. Mike Rogers of Alabama, the ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee, said the removal of the vaccination requirement was essential for the defense policy bill to move forward.

“We have real recruitment and retention problems across all services. This was gas on the fire exacerbating our existing problem," Rogers said. “And the president said, you know, the pandemic is over. It's time for us to recognize that and remove this unnecessary policy."

White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said Monday that Biden told McCarthy he would consider lifting the mandate but Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin had recommended it be kept.

“I would remind all of you that the Pentagon has a range of vaccines it has long required,” Jean-Pierre said Monday. “So this is nothing new.”

The vaccine provision is one of the more acrimonious differences in the annual defense bill that the House is looking to wrap up this week and send to the Senate. It sets policy and provides a roadmap for future investments. It’s one of the final bills Congress is expected to approve before adjourning, so lawmakers are eager to attach their top priorities to it.

Service members and the Defense Department's civilian workforce would get a 4.6% pay increase, according to a summary of the bill released Tuesday night. The legislation also requires a review of the rate of suicide in the Armed Forces since Sept. 11, 2001, broken down by service, occupational specialty and grade. It also requires the defense secretary to rescind the COVID-19 vaccination mandate.

Military leaders acknowledge that the vaccine requirement is one of several factors contributing to their recruiting struggles. It may dissuade some young people from enlisting, but officials don't know how many. This year the Army missed its recruiting goal by about 25%, while the other services scraped by.

The reasons, however, are complex. Two years of the pandemic shut off recruiters’ access to schools and events where they find prospects, and online recruiting was only marginally successful. Finding recruits is made more difficult by the ongoing nationwide labor shortage and the fact that only about 23% of young people can meet the military’s fitness, educational and moral requirements — with many disqualified for medical issues, criminal records, tattoos and other things.

A congressional aide familiar with the negotiations but not authorized to speak publicly said lawmakers supportive of the vaccine mandate concluded that it had accomplished what it was intended to do by achieving a high rate of vaccination throughout the service branches, and that meeting the Republican demands to rescind it would allow other priorities to advance.

The mandate was enacted through an August 2021 memorandum from Austin. It directed the secretaries of the various military branches to begin full vaccination of all members of the Armed Forces on active duty or in the National Guard or Reserve. They have not been required to also receive boosters.

Asked about the matter over the weekend, Austin told reporters he still supports the vaccine for U.S. troops.

“We lost a million people to this virus,” Austin said. “A million people died in the United States of America. We lost hundreds in DoD. So this mandate has kept people healthy.”

As of early this month, about 99% of the active-duty troops in the Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps had been vaccinated, and 98% of the Army. Service members who are not vaccinated are not allowed to deploy, particularly sailors or Marines on ships. There may be a few exceptions to that, based on religious or other exemptions and the duties of the service member.

The vaccination numbers for the Guard and Reserve are lower, but generally all are more than 90%.

More than 8,000 active-duty service members were discharged for failure to obey a lawful order when they refused the vaccine.

The Marine Corps, which is much smaller than the Army, Navy and Air Force, vastly outpaces them in the number of troops discharged, with 3,717 as of early this month. The Army – the largest service -- has discharged more than 1,800, while more than 1,600 were forced out by the Navy and 834 by the Air Force. The Air Force numbers include the Space Force.

The military services came under fire over the past year for approving only a limited number of religious exemptions to the vaccine requirement.

Military leaders have argued that troops for decades have been required to get as many as 17 vaccines in order to maintain the health of the force, particularly those deploying overseas. Recruits arriving at the military academies or at basic training get a regimen of shots on their first day — such as measles, mumps and rubella — if they aren’t already vaccinated. And they routinely get flu shots in the fall.

Service leaders have said that the number of troops who requested religious or other exemptions to any of those required vaccines — prior to the COVID pandemic — has been negligible.

The politicization of the COVID-19 vaccine, however, triggered an onslaught of exemption requests from troops. As many as 16,000 religious exemptions have been or are still pending, and only about 190 have been approved. Small numbers of temporary and permanent medical exemptions have also been granted.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said the Defense Department made a rational decision in requiring a vaccine because “vaccines are the way you keep a community safe." But at the end of the day, the bill needs to have bipartisan support to pass.

“It seems to be very controversial among Republicans in particular. I'm not sure exactly why. Maybe it's just because the government is telling them that you need to do this," Hoyer said.

“Obviously," he added, "the more people you have well at any given time, the better off you are in responding immediately, but there's substantial sentiment on the other side of the aisle, which we need in the Senate, that believes differently, so we may have to compromise."

McCarthy said that while he applauded the end of the mandate, the Biden administration must do more. He said the Biden administration “must correct service records" and not stand in the way of reenlisting any service member discharged for not taking the COVID vaccine.

The defense bill will support up to about $858 billion in spending. Within this topline, the legislation authorizes nearly $817 billion for the Department of Defense and more than $30 billion for national security programs within the Department of Energy.

The bill provides funding that's about $45 billion above the president's budget request to address the effects of inflation, provide additional security assistance to Ukraine and accelerate other DoD priorities.
 

dstraito

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Is it, really, the flu?

I am sure it is because there was no flu for a period but of time and now it is trying to catch up.

They can not induce the level of fear they need using the word "covid" so they call it "flu" and urge people to get the "flu" vaccine which does not (yet) have the same connotation of the covid vax. They are desperate to have everyone get the shot, no matter what it is called.
 

jward

passin' thru

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Jan Jekielek
@JanJekielek


I’m at the @SenRonJohnson
’s hearing on #COVID vaccines today.

The insurance industry data is striking. The slide is by industry expert Josh Stirling—actual UK data. US not available. Using UK data, Sterling estimates 600K US excess deaths annually in the jabbed.

Live stream
View: https://twitter.com/JanJekielek/status/1600550555356524544?s=20&t=KCPZPGJEQ41oahD4Ix0-5A

Wow. that's pretty damning evidence. Going to copy the picture over in case the tweet disappears.

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(fair use applies)

Service members kicked out of the U.S. military for refusing Covid vaccine could be allowed to rejoin, officials say
Courtney Kube - NBC News
Wed, December 7, 2022, 6:33 PM

Service members who were kicked out of the U.S. military for refusing the Covid vaccines could be allowed back in uniform if the vaccination mandate is lifted, according to two U.S. military and two senior defense officials.

On Tuesday, the House and the Senate released language to be included in the National Defense Authorization Act that would require the Defense Department to lift the mandate. The NDAA, the annual bill that authorizes the military's budget, must be passed before the end of the year, and Democratic leaders let Republicans include the language to ensure its passage.

Pentagon leaders are discussing whether service members who were separated can rejoin if the NDAA is signed into law, the four officials said. They said that requests to rejoin would most likely be handled case by case but that if service members left under good circumstances — meaning they did not leave via “other than honorable” discharges — they might be allowed to sign back up.

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin ordered in August 2021 that all active-duty National Guard and reserve service members be vaccinated for Covid or face separation. The NDAA language would direct Austin to rescind his order. It is very unusual for Congress to intervene and overturn a standing lawful order, two senior defense officials said, noting they could not immediately recall any precedent.

After Austin issued his mandate, thousands of active-duty service members were separated for refusing Covid vaccination. (Members of the National Guard who refused vaccination were not allowed to participate in drills or training, meaning they lost pay and were marked absent without cause.)

In many cases, the official reason for separation was failing to follow a lawful order. But if enlisted service members who were separated have no other bar to re-enlistment, still meet the age and fitness standards and want to rejoin, they could be allowed back in if the mandate is repealed, said a U.S. military official and a defense official. The officials said that enlisted service members might not be able to get back in at the same pay grades or ranks but that such decisions would be made case by case.

Officers would most likely be held to a different standard, the two officials said. If they left for failing to obey a lawful order, even if it is no longer a lawful order, they might not be allowed to reinstate their commissions.

Pentagon leaders are concerned about how the change could affect military readiness, said two senior defense officials, both of whom are not confident the majority of troops would continue to get vaccinated without the mandate.

Service members often live and work in close quarters like ships and barracks, making infectious diseases more worrisome. The lack of a vaccination mandate would most likely affect troop deployability and readiness, the officials said. Not only would illness make some troops nondeployable, they said, but some countries will not admit people who refuse to be vaccinated, so unvaccinated troops could not necessarily participate in exercises or be stationed overseas.

Pentagon deputy press secretary Sabrina Singh declined Wednesday to provide specifics about how revoking the mandate could affect troops and operations, including whether unvaccinated troops would be deemed deployable.

“We don’t comment on pending legislation,” she said, adding that she would not get into “hypotheticals.” Austin supports keeping the vaccination mandate, she said, and when she was pressed, she said repealing the vaccination mandate would affect readiness.

Singh said that 691 service members, Defense Department civilians and dependents have died from Covid.

The vast majority of active-duty service members are vaccinated — only about 2% have not gotten both doses of a vaccine — but ending the mandate would mean new recruits would not need to get vaccinated.

Some military officials are also concerned the case could provide a road map for disgruntled troops to protest in the future, the two senior officials said. If there is a politically charged issue, they would have proof that they can lobby their members of Congress and get a lawful order overturned, even if military leaders and the secretary of defense disagree.

Rep. Greg Murphy, R-N.C., a longtime opponent of the vaccination mandate, said, “While this repeal will bring relief to many in our U.S. Armed Forces, we must go further to re-enlist those who were discharged for not taking the vaccine and hold the Biden administration accountable for this damaging, politically targeted ploy at the expense of America’s heroes.”
 
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