POL Law enforcement agencies are prepping for a possible Trump indictment as early as THIS week
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The Obama campaign broke the law on millions in undisclosed donations, paid a massive fine, and it was never talked about again
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FLASHBACK, 2018: “Stormy Daniels denies having an affair with Trump”
And Obamacrats want to send President Trump to prison because he allegedly reimbursed his then-lawyer, who had paid off the porn star, (never had sex with the man) extorting his client. Trump should have let Cohen eat that one.
View: https://twitter.com/alx/status/1637645273324306438?t=aEB0A2EmhDnPjQXIesNmgg&s=19
And Obamacrats want to send President Trump to prison because he allegedly reimbursed his then-lawyer, who had paid off the porn star, (never had sex with the man) extorting his client. Trump should have let Cohen eat that one.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/20/nyregion/trump-arrest-indictment-nypd.html
An arrest of former President Donald J. Trump would in some ways play out like any other. But in other ways it would be completely different.Haiyun Jiang/The New York Times
He would be fingerprinted. He would be photographed. He could even be handcuffed.
And if Donald J. Trump is indicted by a Manhattan grand jury in the days ahead for his role in a hush money payment to a porn star, the former president of the United States of America will be read the standard Miranda warning: He will be told that he has the right to remain silent and the right to an attorney.
These are among the routine steps for felony arrests in New York. But the unprecedented arrest of a former commander in chief — one whose devoted supporters once staged a violent attack on the Capitol — will be anything but routine.
Last week, senior officials from the district attorney’s office and the state agency that runs the courts had preliminary discussions to plan for a possible indictment and arraignment. So did officials from the Police Department, which patrols the streets outside the Lower Manhattan courthouse, and the court officers, who handle security inside the Criminal Courts Building, where Mr. Trump would be arraigned.
And on Sunday, more than a dozen senior Police Department officials and two of the mayor’s top public safety aides held a virtual meeting to discuss security, staffing and contingency plans in the event of any protests, one person with knowledge of the meeting said.
That meeting followed a call from Mr. Trump himself, in a post on his site Truth Social on Saturday morning: “PROTEST,” he exhorted his supporters. “TAKE OUR NATION BACK!”
The former president’s rallying cry, with an indictment looming, conjured up memories of the Jan. 6, 2020, assault on the Capitol.
Security is also a looming issue in the office of the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, a Democrat who is the first Black person to lead the office. Mr. Trump has lashed out at the district attorney, calling him a racist and saying his investigation is politically motivated.
Mr. Bragg and one of his top aides have already been the targets of threats on Mr. Trump’s social media platform. In an email to staffers on Saturday, first reported by Politico, Mr. Bragg assured prosecutors and other staff that he had been coordinating with the Police Department and court officials to ensure their safety.
“We do not tolerate attempts to intimidate our office or threaten the rule of law in New York,” he wrote. “Our law enforcement partners will ensure that any specific or credible threats against the office will be fully investigated.”
Mr. Bragg’s security detail, which is staffed by New York Police Department detectives, may expand in the wake of Mr. Trump’s Saturday post; already the police have evaluated risks to his personal safety, according to a person with knowledge of the matter. In the past, the police department has adjusted its staffing based on its own assessment of the risk to a district attorney, another person with knowledge said.
In the wake of Mr. Trump’s public call for action, there were scattered signs that his followers were planning to protest on his behalf. The New York Young Republican Club announced on Sunday that it would hold a “peaceful protest of Alvin Bragg’s heinous attack” on Mr. Trump at an undisclosed location in Lower Manhattan on Monday evening.
On Saturday afternoon, the far-right provocateur Laura Loomer, who lives in Florida, declared on Twitter that she was organizing a pro-Trump rally outside Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s private club and residence in Palm Beach, to “protest Alvin Bragg’s WITCH HUNT.” But hours later, Ms. Loomer deleted the tweet and encouraged people to attend Mr. Trump’s upcoming political event in Texas instead.
On Twitter over the weekend, the far-right influencer Jack Posobiec called for Mr. Trump’s supporters to launch a “MAGA strike” and withdraw their money from banks en masse in an apparent effort to harm the financial system. Other Trump supporters circulated the main telephone number of Mr. Bragg’s office on social media and encouraged people to call and demand that charges not be filed against Mr. Trump.
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Far darker messages were posted on pro-Trump chat boards like Patriots.win, a website formerly known as TheDonald.win, according to a review of social media by the The New York Times and by Advance Democracy Inc., a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization that conducts public interest research. In its final report last year, the House select committee investigating Jan. 6 determined that TheDonald.win served as an important nexus for people to discuss and make plans for the Capitol attack.
In the hours after Mr. Trump’s message was posted on Saturday, some posters on Patriots.win, mostly writing under pseudonyms, called for people to join together to protect Mr. Trump.
“Surround Mar-a-Lago or wherever he currently is,” a person named “sir-coffee” wrote, “and prevent law-enforcement from entering.”
Supporters of former U.S. President Donald Trump gathered outside his Mar-a-Lago resort after he posted a message on his Truth Social account saying that he expects to be arrested on Tuesday, and called on other supporters to protest.Marco Bello/Reuters
Other posters called for a violent response to Mr. Trump’s arrest and said they would welcome harm being done to Mr. Bragg.
“I’d celebrate someone taking out that criminal DA,” someone using the name “trauncher” wrote.
If Mr. Trump is indeed indicted and arraigned, it will be one of the most unusual and closely watched court proceedings in New York history. And accommodation may be made for the former president.
While it is standard for defendants arrested on felony charges to be handcuffed, it is unclear whether they will make an exception for Mr. Trump because of his status. Most defendants have their hands cuffed behind their backs, but some white-collar defendants who are deemed to pose less of a danger have their hands secured in front of them.
After an arraignment, Mr. Trump would likely be released on his own recognizance because an indictment likely would contain only nonviolent felony charges; under New York law, prosecutors cannot request bail in most such cases.
Mr. Trump will almost certainly be accompanied at every step of the process — from the moment he is taken into custody until his appearance before a judge — by armed agents of the United States Secret Service, who are required by law to protect him at all times. Security in the courthouse is provided by New York State court officers, an agency with which the Secret Service has worked in the past. The chief spokesman for the Secret Service, Anthony J. Guglielmi, said he could not comment on any security arrangements for the former president.
It may take several days for the former president to appear at the courthouse. Once he has been indicted, prosecutors are expected to contact the former president’s defense lawyers to negotiate his surrender, a common practice in white-collar investigations when prosecutors have been in touch with defense attorneys.
Some lawyers working for Mr. Trump, who is running for president a third time, have said he will surrender to face the charges and fly from his Florida estate to New York for the arraignment.
The former president has made it clear he plans to use the charges as part of a campaign strategy to rile up his base.
Surrender, some might argue, is not in the confrontational former president’s DNA, and he often seems to relish antagonizing and attacking the prosecutors who have investigated him.
In the unlikely event that the former president refuses to surrender, he would put Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, his leading but undeclared rival for the Republican nomination, in an awkward political position. Under law, the role of Mr. DeSantis would be essentially ministerial and he would have few legal options other than approving an extradition request from New York.
Still, if New York prosecutors sought Mr. Trump’s extradition, Mr. DeSantis would face an unenviable dilemma. He would be compelled to choose between authorizing an arrest warrant for Mr. Trump and inflaming his base, or attempting in some way to aide his Republican rival, and possibly face legal action as a result.
N.Y. Authorities Prepare for Unprecedented Arrest of an Ex-President
Ahead of a likely indictment, law enforcement officials are making security plans as some of Donald J. Trump’s supporters signal that they intend to protest.
March 20, 2023Updated 8:00 a.m. ETTrump Inquiry in Manhattan
An arrest of former President Donald J. Trump would in some ways play out like any other. But in other ways it would be completely different.Haiyun Jiang/The New York Times
He would be fingerprinted. He would be photographed. He could even be handcuffed.
And if Donald J. Trump is indicted by a Manhattan grand jury in the days ahead for his role in a hush money payment to a porn star, the former president of the United States of America will be read the standard Miranda warning: He will be told that he has the right to remain silent and the right to an attorney.
These are among the routine steps for felony arrests in New York. But the unprecedented arrest of a former commander in chief — one whose devoted supporters once staged a violent attack on the Capitol — will be anything but routine.
Last week, senior officials from the district attorney’s office and the state agency that runs the courts had preliminary discussions to plan for a possible indictment and arraignment. So did officials from the Police Department, which patrols the streets outside the Lower Manhattan courthouse, and the court officers, who handle security inside the Criminal Courts Building, where Mr. Trump would be arraigned.
And on Sunday, more than a dozen senior Police Department officials and two of the mayor’s top public safety aides held a virtual meeting to discuss security, staffing and contingency plans in the event of any protests, one person with knowledge of the meeting said.
That meeting followed a call from Mr. Trump himself, in a post on his site Truth Social on Saturday morning: “PROTEST,” he exhorted his supporters. “TAKE OUR NATION BACK!”
The former president’s rallying cry, with an indictment looming, conjured up memories of the Jan. 6, 2020, assault on the Capitol.
Security is also a looming issue in the office of the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, a Democrat who is the first Black person to lead the office. Mr. Trump has lashed out at the district attorney, calling him a racist and saying his investigation is politically motivated.
Mr. Bragg and one of his top aides have already been the targets of threats on Mr. Trump’s social media platform. In an email to staffers on Saturday, first reported by Politico, Mr. Bragg assured prosecutors and other staff that he had been coordinating with the Police Department and court officials to ensure their safety.
“We do not tolerate attempts to intimidate our office or threaten the rule of law in New York,” he wrote. “Our law enforcement partners will ensure that any specific or credible threats against the office will be fully investigated.”
Mr. Bragg’s security detail, which is staffed by New York Police Department detectives, may expand in the wake of Mr. Trump’s Saturday post; already the police have evaluated risks to his personal safety, according to a person with knowledge of the matter. In the past, the police department has adjusted its staffing based on its own assessment of the risk to a district attorney, another person with knowledge said.
In the wake of Mr. Trump’s public call for action, there were scattered signs that his followers were planning to protest on his behalf. The New York Young Republican Club announced on Sunday that it would hold a “peaceful protest of Alvin Bragg’s heinous attack” on Mr. Trump at an undisclosed location in Lower Manhattan on Monday evening.
On Saturday afternoon, the far-right provocateur Laura Loomer, who lives in Florida, declared on Twitter that she was organizing a pro-Trump rally outside Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s private club and residence in Palm Beach, to “protest Alvin Bragg’s WITCH HUNT.” But hours later, Ms. Loomer deleted the tweet and encouraged people to attend Mr. Trump’s upcoming political event in Texas instead.
On Twitter over the weekend, the far-right influencer Jack Posobiec called for Mr. Trump’s supporters to launch a “MAGA strike” and withdraw their money from banks en masse in an apparent effort to harm the financial system. Other Trump supporters circulated the main telephone number of Mr. Bragg’s office on social media and encouraged people to call and demand that charges not be filed against Mr. Trump.
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Far darker messages were posted on pro-Trump chat boards like Patriots.win, a website formerly known as TheDonald.win, according to a review of social media by the The New York Times and by Advance Democracy Inc., a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization that conducts public interest research. In its final report last year, the House select committee investigating Jan. 6 determined that TheDonald.win served as an important nexus for people to discuss and make plans for the Capitol attack.
In the hours after Mr. Trump’s message was posted on Saturday, some posters on Patriots.win, mostly writing under pseudonyms, called for people to join together to protect Mr. Trump.
“Surround Mar-a-Lago or wherever he currently is,” a person named “sir-coffee” wrote, “and prevent law-enforcement from entering.”
Supporters of former U.S. President Donald Trump gathered outside his Mar-a-Lago resort after he posted a message on his Truth Social account saying that he expects to be arrested on Tuesday, and called on other supporters to protest.Marco Bello/Reuters
Other posters called for a violent response to Mr. Trump’s arrest and said they would welcome harm being done to Mr. Bragg.
“I’d celebrate someone taking out that criminal DA,” someone using the name “trauncher” wrote.
If Mr. Trump is indeed indicted and arraigned, it will be one of the most unusual and closely watched court proceedings in New York history. And accommodation may be made for the former president.
While it is standard for defendants arrested on felony charges to be handcuffed, it is unclear whether they will make an exception for Mr. Trump because of his status. Most defendants have their hands cuffed behind their backs, but some white-collar defendants who are deemed to pose less of a danger have their hands secured in front of them.
After an arraignment, Mr. Trump would likely be released on his own recognizance because an indictment likely would contain only nonviolent felony charges; under New York law, prosecutors cannot request bail in most such cases.
Mr. Trump will almost certainly be accompanied at every step of the process — from the moment he is taken into custody until his appearance before a judge — by armed agents of the United States Secret Service, who are required by law to protect him at all times. Security in the courthouse is provided by New York State court officers, an agency with which the Secret Service has worked in the past. The chief spokesman for the Secret Service, Anthony J. Guglielmi, said he could not comment on any security arrangements for the former president.
It may take several days for the former president to appear at the courthouse. Once he has been indicted, prosecutors are expected to contact the former president’s defense lawyers to negotiate his surrender, a common practice in white-collar investigations when prosecutors have been in touch with defense attorneys.
Some lawyers working for Mr. Trump, who is running for president a third time, have said he will surrender to face the charges and fly from his Florida estate to New York for the arraignment.
The former president has made it clear he plans to use the charges as part of a campaign strategy to rile up his base.
Surrender, some might argue, is not in the confrontational former president’s DNA, and he often seems to relish antagonizing and attacking the prosecutors who have investigated him.
In the unlikely event that the former president refuses to surrender, he would put Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, his leading but undeclared rival for the Republican nomination, in an awkward political position. Under law, the role of Mr. DeSantis would be essentially ministerial and he would have few legal options other than approving an extradition request from New York.
Still, if New York prosecutors sought Mr. Trump’s extradition, Mr. DeSantis would face an unenviable dilemma. He would be compelled to choose between authorizing an arrest warrant for Mr. Trump and inflaming his base, or attempting in some way to aide his Republican rival, and possibly face legal action as a result.
Everything is a trap. The trick is to spring the trap before you take the cheese.
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money? whats that?
I have long said I don't trust ANY politician. That includes Pres. Trump. Do I think he is the man for the job? He's probably the best one running. As of right now, I'd vote for him. Do I agree with him all the time? No. THAT SAID, even I can see it's a set up. DJT is too high profile to just bump off. What I fear is a nationwide repeat of J6. Think about it. Something like that even appears to happen and its' martial law/turn-in-your-guns-for-the-safety-of-the-nation time. If you don't you aren't a good loyal American. You are (insert negative stereotype here) and we will take them from you.
Hitler did much the same to disarm Germany.
Walrus Whisperer
Hope in chains...
They'd better take care to not murder too many. There's gotta be people left to help wipe asses and clean the houses and such.
Hmmm. Does the Secret Service go in with him? Regardless of what some asshats might think, he still has that kind of protection.
Walrus Whisperer
Hope in chains...
Since when, in this now lawless world, do you think anyone is gonna receive decency?
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Happening now: Steel barriers are being set up outside of Manhattan Criminal Court.
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Joel Fischer
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Happening now: Steel barriers are being set up outside of Manhattan Criminal Court.
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desert_fox
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Yes it is a trap, and even if no Trump supports show the FBI will be there in full force to make sure that the national narrative is set to make MAGA the enemy.
Tristan
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Old Gray Mare
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I'm watching the wording. The devil's in the details. "Possible arrest", "may be handcuffed and arrested next week...". Nothing's in concrete. It's currently all threats and political theater.
What actually concerns me is the possibility of a Huey Long event. They can't bribe him, can legally jail him, can't cancel him, can't intimidate him, can't stop his rallies, haven't been able to stomp out his support. They haven't managed to make any serious criminal charges stick.
What actually concerns me is the possibility of a Huey Long event. They can't bribe him, can legally jail him, can't cancel him, can't intimidate him, can't stop his rallies, haven't been able to stomp out his support. They haven't managed to make any serious criminal charges stick.
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vector7
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JackPosobiec: Zero talk of indictment at dinner Thursday
Something changed on Friday
View: https://twitter.com/DschlopesIsBack/status/1637689440356249602?t=WTgHqeFUU8cy9eCSzleQOQ&s=19
Something changed on Friday
View: https://twitter.com/DschlopesIsBack/status/1637689440356249602?t=WTgHqeFUU8cy9eCSzleQOQ&s=19
NoDandy
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Yep. They probably already have Ray Epps, a few thousand of ANTIFI, and BLM all queued up , and already have hundreds of pallets of bricks and crates of molotov cocktails pre positioned. Anyone that goes out to protest is asking for trouble !!
Stay home, fix popcorn, and watch the show on TV .
WildDaisy
God has a plan, Trust it!
All that work and I dont think many are going to show up - at least non paid actors wont show. I hope people can match faces with names and political leanings and have it all backfire and prove the people there were paid and not conservatives or Trump backers. That would be a hoot to see.
This is 100% a set up, you'd be a fool to go. The only way to go protest is for it to be spontaneous, so they dont have time to organize the actors and write the script.
This is 100% a set up, you'd be a fool to go. The only way to go protest is for it to be spontaneous, so they dont have time to organize the actors and write the script.
In other words...need dog food? Salad makin's? Gas up the jalopy? Do it today.
psychgirl
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Yes.
psychgirl
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Stay home!
Dobbin
Faithful Steed
And the New York Times wins again in attaching "labels" to those who are not part of the "agenda."
Almost as adept as Wikipedia (Laura Loomer)
She is not yet on the SPLC "Hate List" - but search of their site yields 24 places where her name is mentioned in connection with other "Dangerous" right wing extremists. Search Results
Dobbin
Yes. If anything past events indicate that "going there" isn't as effective as "staying home", particularly for the truck drivers, never mind "blue flu".....
Jackpine Savage
Veteran Member
Let's be selective. Embargo New York City.
Meh. Let's just send all of the illegals up that way. Bankrupt the hell out of them and then ask how they have the money to try and put one person in jail when they let all of the rest of them out.
The Hammer
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Then, when nobody shows up, the media will crow about Trump losing popularity.
I agree, though, they'd love nothing better than to pin another J6 scenario on Trump and his supporters.
It does look they may try something tomorrow, if barricades are going up.
I agree, though, they'd love nothing better than to pin another J6 scenario on Trump and his supporters.
It does look they may try something tomorrow, if barricades are going up.
tortminder
Contributing Member
Those who learn from history are doomed to watch the idiots who don't destroy life as we knew it.
Imagine a world in which political norms have broken down. Senators use bad faith arguments to block the government from getting anything done. An autocrat rigs elections and gives himself complete control over the government. Even stranger, many voters subscribe to the autocrat’s personality cult and agree that he should have absolute control.
Welcome to Rome in the first century B.C.E. The republic that had existed for over 400 years had finally hit a crisis it couldn’t overcome. Rome itself wouldn’t fall, but during this period it lost its republic forever.
The man who played the biggest role in disrupting Rome’s republic was Augustus Caesar, who made himself the first emperor of Rome in 27 B.C.E. By that point, the republic’s political norms had been breaking down for about a century, and Augustus was in a position to take advantage of that.
Before that century, “there had been a really long period where the republic functioned,” says Edward J. Watts, author of the new book Mortal Republic: How Rome Fell Into Tyranny. Political norms were heeded; and when the government ran into a new problem, it would amend itself to keep working. For over 300 years, the republic operated this way. There was no political violence, land theft or capital punishment because those went against the political norms Rome had established.
It's Deja Vu... all over again.
Starve the beast-withdraw consent.
Imagine a world in which political norms have broken down. Senators use bad faith arguments to block the government from getting anything done. An autocrat rigs elections and gives himself complete control over the government. Even stranger, many voters subscribe to the autocrat’s personality cult and agree that he should have absolute control.
Welcome to Rome in the first century B.C.E. The republic that had existed for over 400 years had finally hit a crisis it couldn’t overcome. Rome itself wouldn’t fall, but during this period it lost its republic forever.
The man who played the biggest role in disrupting Rome’s republic was Augustus Caesar, who made himself the first emperor of Rome in 27 B.C.E. By that point, the republic’s political norms had been breaking down for about a century, and Augustus was in a position to take advantage of that.
Before that century, “there had been a really long period where the republic functioned,” says Edward J. Watts, author of the new book Mortal Republic: How Rome Fell Into Tyranny. Political norms were heeded; and when the government ran into a new problem, it would amend itself to keep working. For over 300 years, the republic operated this way. There was no political violence, land theft or capital punishment because those went against the political norms Rome had established.
It's Deja Vu... all over again.
Starve the beast-withdraw consent.
When Trump called for protests, that was a shot across their bow.
They really do fear his popularity and the nature of his supporters.
The possibility of two countries emerging is a real consideration.
They really do fear his popularity and the nature of his supporters.
The possibility of two countries emerging is a real consideration.
IMHO I think he did it knowing that ANTIFA/BLM would be the one showing up if it "went there" and not that very many MAGAs would go into NYC. Either that or he's expecting the equivalent of the French Yellow Vests to "rise up".
The thing is after the last three years the equivalent in the US won't be anywhere near as "self limiting" as their French or Dutch equivalents if they feel it's "go time" and even if it is then there's the question of such a group's C3IR's true loyalties and motives....
Dobbin
Faithful Steed
New post from KD on Market Ticker about this. I concur with his assessment:
Trump Arrest? I Don't Care - or Even GOOD!
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The social media space is all "a-twitter" about Trump allegedly being arrested for an offense related to alleged "hush money" and Stormy Daniels.
I do not know the precise charge or even if the reports are real; this appears to be a state matter in some way related to either the "pay for silence" act itself or how the money was moved around. Exactly how this implicates a legal violation is unclear until we know what they charge him with, if they do; it is generally not unlawful to pay someone to shut up (witness all manner of legal settlements that include confidentiality clauses, non-disclosure agreements and similar) but there are exceptions.
The outrage on the right is of course predictable.
Personally, I could care less and if you are one of those folks who thinks this is a reason to go to war (whether "civil" or not) IMHO you're out of your mind.
Trump had plenty of opportunities as President to stop the two-faced, "two class" legal system in this nation: One for people who are favored, and another for everyone else. Let's start with Hillary, who he repeatedly said he was going to "lock up." That was not a political claim either; she had clearly, openly and deliberately violated black-letter law relating to classified material handling by setting up an email server in her house and then funneling classified material through it in a bid to prevent all of her traffic from being subject to legally required record-keeping by federal employees. That really is illegal and literally the day Trump was elected he stopped talking about and did not direct his Attorney General to make good on that campaign slogan.
Or, if you want something a bit more personal than some abstract record-keeping requirement who remembers "A girl in Iowa" during Trump's Presidency? In 2021 the accused was found guilty of murder but within a quite-short period of time after the criminal act itself we knew the accused was an illegal invader who had no right to be here in the United States. He, like so many others, was employed by local farming interests -- heavily GOP, of course, since most farming areas are.
Trump had the full authority as President to issue a NPRM and, under proper process, require the use of E-verify for every employer in the United States -- including of course all farmers. Requiring the control number from that system on every 941 that is filed (employment tax return which all employers must file under penalty of perjury, and pay the amounts owed) would have put an immediate, full and permanent stop to the use of "undocumented" labor in the United States provided those who didn't comply were prosecuted. Tax fraud in that sort of instance is ridiculously easy to prove and its a criminal offense. Of course this would have been tremendously unpopular among certain groups of people (farmers in particular) which, in Iowa, are a very serious voting block, never mind in other agricultural states, most of them "Red."
Trump of course did nothing of the sort even though it is a fact that had the convicted individual not been in the nation Mollie Tibbetts would be alive today. There are several other examples and while you can claim that illegal aliens are not "more disposed" to criminal activity if you'd like that is not the point -- the point is they do commit crimes and you can't commit them here if you're not here. Every single one of those crimes is preventable by simply demanding such persons not be present in the United States, and since they're here illegally there is every basis in the law to do exactly that.
So pardon me if I really don't care if a NY Prosecutor makes a public and political spectacle out of this. After all being arrested for whatever Trump is alleged to have done in violation of NY Law pales beside the murder of a 20 year old woman who's only offense was attempting to maintain personal physical fitness by going for a jog, and the wildly outrageous and illegal employment of persons all over this nation that Trump had every ability to stop, as has every other President, and yet he refused because people with political and economic power want to break the law for economic advantage and, in the process, screw law-abiding Americans out of the jobs they would otherwise have at a higher, market-based and law-abiding wage.
This is not, incidentally, the only example. Exactly zero of what was done with his "2 weeks to slow the spread" that turned into a three year disaster was proper. No part of the PREP Act, for example, enables the government to censor information whether directly or by conspiring with others. Yet they did exactly that, did they not? What did Trump do about this? Nothing. Indeed he gave legal force through his HHS Secretary, backed up with billions of dollars, for protocols that were used in hospitals and killed patients, never mind allowing State and local governments to intentionally ship infected people into nursing homes without a single federal indictment issuing against a single person involved. That was and is manslaughter so spare me the outrage since your much-loved Orange Man did nothing to stop or punish it, despite having plenty of federal legal tools with which to do so -- like, for example, removing that which he, personally, put in place through HHS that incentivized these acts.
If Mr. Warp Speed gets the stuff-n-cuff treatment I will quaff two fingers of high-quality single-malt just on that basis alone.
Oh yes, Biden has done the same and more, but Trump had the capacity, as President at the time, to call a hard stop on this insanity in March of 2020 and he not only refused, he personally ratcheted up the fear porn and enabled the lockdowns. Yes, the states executed on that but it was Trump who backed all of it including the "bonus protocols" for hospitals which remain in place today.
So no, I do not care if he gets personally abused by the NY Prosecutor. After the last three years, and putting in place the domestic economic spending policies that are now likely to lead to a catastrophe worse than 2008, never mind further enabling the medical monster that is now one third of the federal budget and yet ridiculously violates 100+ year old felony criminal law (15 USC Chapter 1) on a daily basis am I supposed to care if a bit of karma visits him? Do recall, dear reader, that he did promise to stop that during his 2016 campaign in three separate platform planks and every one of them disappeared, never to be seen again, within minutes of the election being called for him. I stated before the election I would not participate in that sham because I had every expectation he was going to do exactly that -- and I was right.
Whether or not there's an actual offense here I will reserve judgement on until I see the facts -- but in terms of whether I care if Trump gets treated in a different way than anyone else may I note he has, through his political and in fact business life, been the instigator and beneficiary of said disparate treatment all along and pointedly refused as President to enforce the rule of law evenly on more occasions than I can count, so if he gets reamed by his own double standard I not only do not care I laugh at, and shall toast, the irony.
Good luck Donald.
And as for those of you who wish to and are stoking outrage over this?
Go look in the mirror because you, like everyone else's, failure to demand the government actually enforce the law and instead cheering on the breaking of same when when and only when it benefits you is why we're here as a nation today. It is why the BLM riots and arsons went unanswered. It killed your Gram during the pandemic and screwed your kids out of two+ years of education. It is why we're a hell of a mess budget-wise with The Fed and everyone else furiously trying to keep all the plates in the air -- and they're very likely to fail. Now those of you who are "outraged" appear to be engaged in precisely the same selective crap.
No?
Well then where was the general strike in 2008? How about to enforce "lock her up"? How about in March of 2020 when Trump did his little "15 days" speech, which, at the end of the 15 days, he reneged upon directly? Where was in response the "oh, I'm an essential worker while the bar is closed eh? Tough crap; no groceries for you until my friend the bartender is open on an unrestricted basis as before and I can go have a drink -- until then YOU CAN STARVE!" How about in 2020 when you all said the election was stolen? You didn't believe that either, did you?
A general strike is perfectly legal; nobody can compel you to actually work. That's forbidden under the 13th Amendment. Refusing to labor is legal, period, it is non-violent and if in fact half of the 60% of the adult, working-age population, which is the employment
opulation ratio I remind you, was to stick up the middle finger government would be forced to cave in to whatever the demand is; absolutely nothing in our government or economy can be maintained on any sort of rational basis if half the people in this nation who are allegedly "employed" simply sit at home and refuse to return until the crap -- and screwing -- stops.
Exactly zero percent of those who make such claims actually mean it and will put skin in the game.
Masturbating in public is disgusting yet that's exactly what you've been -- and still are -- doing.
Trump Arrest? I Don't Care - or Even GOOD!
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The social media space is all "a-twitter" about Trump allegedly being arrested for an offense related to alleged "hush money" and Stormy Daniels.
I do not know the precise charge or even if the reports are real; this appears to be a state matter in some way related to either the "pay for silence" act itself or how the money was moved around. Exactly how this implicates a legal violation is unclear until we know what they charge him with, if they do; it is generally not unlawful to pay someone to shut up (witness all manner of legal settlements that include confidentiality clauses, non-disclosure agreements and similar) but there are exceptions.
The outrage on the right is of course predictable.
Personally, I could care less and if you are one of those folks who thinks this is a reason to go to war (whether "civil" or not) IMHO you're out of your mind.
Trump had plenty of opportunities as President to stop the two-faced, "two class" legal system in this nation: One for people who are favored, and another for everyone else. Let's start with Hillary, who he repeatedly said he was going to "lock up." That was not a political claim either; she had clearly, openly and deliberately violated black-letter law relating to classified material handling by setting up an email server in her house and then funneling classified material through it in a bid to prevent all of her traffic from being subject to legally required record-keeping by federal employees. That really is illegal and literally the day Trump was elected he stopped talking about and did not direct his Attorney General to make good on that campaign slogan.
Or, if you want something a bit more personal than some abstract record-keeping requirement who remembers "A girl in Iowa" during Trump's Presidency? In 2021 the accused was found guilty of murder but within a quite-short period of time after the criminal act itself we knew the accused was an illegal invader who had no right to be here in the United States. He, like so many others, was employed by local farming interests -- heavily GOP, of course, since most farming areas are.
Trump had the full authority as President to issue a NPRM and, under proper process, require the use of E-verify for every employer in the United States -- including of course all farmers. Requiring the control number from that system on every 941 that is filed (employment tax return which all employers must file under penalty of perjury, and pay the amounts owed) would have put an immediate, full and permanent stop to the use of "undocumented" labor in the United States provided those who didn't comply were prosecuted. Tax fraud in that sort of instance is ridiculously easy to prove and its a criminal offense. Of course this would have been tremendously unpopular among certain groups of people (farmers in particular) which, in Iowa, are a very serious voting block, never mind in other agricultural states, most of them "Red."
Trump of course did nothing of the sort even though it is a fact that had the convicted individual not been in the nation Mollie Tibbetts would be alive today. There are several other examples and while you can claim that illegal aliens are not "more disposed" to criminal activity if you'd like that is not the point -- the point is they do commit crimes and you can't commit them here if you're not here. Every single one of those crimes is preventable by simply demanding such persons not be present in the United States, and since they're here illegally there is every basis in the law to do exactly that.
So pardon me if I really don't care if a NY Prosecutor makes a public and political spectacle out of this. After all being arrested for whatever Trump is alleged to have done in violation of NY Law pales beside the murder of a 20 year old woman who's only offense was attempting to maintain personal physical fitness by going for a jog, and the wildly outrageous and illegal employment of persons all over this nation that Trump had every ability to stop, as has every other President, and yet he refused because people with political and economic power want to break the law for economic advantage and, in the process, screw law-abiding Americans out of the jobs they would otherwise have at a higher, market-based and law-abiding wage.
This is not, incidentally, the only example. Exactly zero of what was done with his "2 weeks to slow the spread" that turned into a three year disaster was proper. No part of the PREP Act, for example, enables the government to censor information whether directly or by conspiring with others. Yet they did exactly that, did they not? What did Trump do about this? Nothing. Indeed he gave legal force through his HHS Secretary, backed up with billions of dollars, for protocols that were used in hospitals and killed patients, never mind allowing State and local governments to intentionally ship infected people into nursing homes without a single federal indictment issuing against a single person involved. That was and is manslaughter so spare me the outrage since your much-loved Orange Man did nothing to stop or punish it, despite having plenty of federal legal tools with which to do so -- like, for example, removing that which he, personally, put in place through HHS that incentivized these acts.
If Mr. Warp Speed gets the stuff-n-cuff treatment I will quaff two fingers of high-quality single-malt just on that basis alone.
Oh yes, Biden has done the same and more, but Trump had the capacity, as President at the time, to call a hard stop on this insanity in March of 2020 and he not only refused, he personally ratcheted up the fear porn and enabled the lockdowns. Yes, the states executed on that but it was Trump who backed all of it including the "bonus protocols" for hospitals which remain in place today.
So no, I do not care if he gets personally abused by the NY Prosecutor. After the last three years, and putting in place the domestic economic spending policies that are now likely to lead to a catastrophe worse than 2008, never mind further enabling the medical monster that is now one third of the federal budget and yet ridiculously violates 100+ year old felony criminal law (15 USC Chapter 1) on a daily basis am I supposed to care if a bit of karma visits him? Do recall, dear reader, that he did promise to stop that during his 2016 campaign in three separate platform planks and every one of them disappeared, never to be seen again, within minutes of the election being called for him. I stated before the election I would not participate in that sham because I had every expectation he was going to do exactly that -- and I was right.
Whether or not there's an actual offense here I will reserve judgement on until I see the facts -- but in terms of whether I care if Trump gets treated in a different way than anyone else may I note he has, through his political and in fact business life, been the instigator and beneficiary of said disparate treatment all along and pointedly refused as President to enforce the rule of law evenly on more occasions than I can count, so if he gets reamed by his own double standard I not only do not care I laugh at, and shall toast, the irony.
Good luck Donald.
And as for those of you who wish to and are stoking outrage over this?
Go look in the mirror because you, like everyone else's, failure to demand the government actually enforce the law and instead cheering on the breaking of same when when and only when it benefits you is why we're here as a nation today. It is why the BLM riots and arsons went unanswered. It killed your Gram during the pandemic and screwed your kids out of two+ years of education. It is why we're a hell of a mess budget-wise with The Fed and everyone else furiously trying to keep all the plates in the air -- and they're very likely to fail. Now those of you who are "outraged" appear to be engaged in precisely the same selective crap.
No?
Well then where was the general strike in 2008? How about to enforce "lock her up"? How about in March of 2020 when Trump did his little "15 days" speech, which, at the end of the 15 days, he reneged upon directly? Where was in response the "oh, I'm an essential worker while the bar is closed eh? Tough crap; no groceries for you until my friend the bartender is open on an unrestricted basis as before and I can go have a drink -- until then YOU CAN STARVE!" How about in 2020 when you all said the election was stolen? You didn't believe that either, did you?
A general strike is perfectly legal; nobody can compel you to actually work. That's forbidden under the 13th Amendment. Refusing to labor is legal, period, it is non-violent and if in fact half of the 60% of the adult, working-age population, which is the employment
opulation ratio I remind you, was to stick up the middle finger government would be forced to cave in to whatever the demand is; absolutely nothing in our government or economy can be maintained on any sort of rational basis if half the people in this nation who are allegedly "employed" simply sit at home and refuse to return until the crap -- and screwing -- stops.Exactly zero percent of those who make such claims actually mean it and will put skin in the game.
Masturbating in public is disgusting yet that's exactly what you've been -- and still are -- doing.
Trump Arrest? I Don't Care - or Even GOOD!
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Post #1 is a NY Times article. It's propaganda.
EXCLUSIVE: The House Judiciary Committee is demanding that Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg testify before Congress in the wake of his "unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial authority," as he reportedly considers indicting former President Trump in charges related to alleged hush money payments made to adult film star Stormy Daniels in 2016.
Committee Chairman Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, sent a letter, exclusively obtained by Fox News Digital, to Bragg Monday morning demanding his testimony. The letter was also signed by House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., and House Committee on Administration Chairman Brian Steil, R-Wis.
Jordan warned Bragg that if news reports of a possible Trump indictment are accurate, Bragg’s actions "will erode confidence in the evenhanded application of justice and unalterably interfere in the court of the 2024 presidential election."
"In light of the serious consequences of your actions, we expect that you will testify about what plainly appears to be a politically motivated prosecutorial decision," Jordan wrote.
The potential charges stem from the $130,000 hush money payment then-Trump lawyer Michael Cohen made to adult film star Stormy Daniels, whose legal name is Stephanie Clifford, in the weeks leading up to the 2016 presidential election in exchange for her silence about an alleged sexual encounter with Trump in 2006.
Federal prosecutors in the U.S. attorneys office for the Southern District of New York opted out of charging Trump related to the Stormy Daniels payment in 2019, even as Cohen implicated him as part of his plea deal. The Federal Election Commission also tossed its investigation into the matter in 2021.
"The legal theory underlying your reported prosecution appears to be tenuous and untested," Jordan wrote.
The statute of limitations on a matter of "falsifying business records," which Jordan said "would ordinarily be a misdemeanor subject to a two-year statute of limitations," would have "expired long ago."
"State law, however, allows a district attorney to ‘elevate nominal misdemeanor conduct’ to a felony charge if the ‘intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof,’" Jordan wrote, noting that showing would extend the statute of limitations to five years.
Jordan said that the five-year statute "would likely expire soon and thus explains your rush to indictment."
"The only potential speculated crime that could be alleged here would be a violation of campaign finance law, according to one scholar, a charge that the Justice Department has already declined to bring," Jordan wrote.
Federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York in 2019 opted out of bringing charges against Trump or anyone else beyond Cohen for campaign finance violations related to the Stormy Daniels payment.
Meanwhile, Jordan slammed who he called Bragg’s "star witness," Michael Cohen.
"In addition to the novel and untested legal theory, your star witness for this prosecution has a serious credibility problem—a problem that you have reportedly recognized," Jordan wrote. "This case relies heavily on the testimony of Michael Cohen, a convicted perjurer with a demonstrable prejudice against President Trump."
Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison in 2018 after pleading guilty to federal charges, including lying to Congress, as well as campaign-finance violations and tax evasion.
"In 2019, when he testified before Democrats on the House Oversight Committee to aid their fruitless investigation into President Trump, Cohen lied again—six times," Jordan said, adding that Cohen "has been vocal about his deeply personal animus toward President Trump."
Jordan stressed that Bragg’s "impending indictment is motivated by political calculations."
The Manhattan District Attorney’s investigation into Trump was opened in 2019 by then-DA Cyrus Vance. The probe was focused on possible bank, insurance and tax fraud. The case initially involved financial dealings of Trump’s Manhattan properties, including his flagship Fifth Avenue building, Trump Tower, and the valuation of his 213-acre estate Seven Springs in Westchester.
The investigation, last year, led to tax fraud charges against The Trump Organization, and its finance chief Allen Weisselberg.
Jordan maintained that "the facts of this matter have not changed since 2018 and no new witnesses have emerged."
"The only intervening factor, it appears, was President Trump’s announcement that he would be a candidate for President in 2024," Jordan wrote.
Jordan went on to slam Bragg, saying his "progressive criminal justice policies that allow career ‘criminals to run the streets' of Manhattan requires congressional scrutiny about how public safety funds appropriated by Congress are implemented by local law-enforcement agencies."
Jordan added that because the "circumstances of this matter stem, in part, from Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation, Congress may consider legislative reforms to the authorities of special counsels and their relationships with other prosecuting entities."
Jordan is demanding that Bragg turn over records and communications between Manhattan DA office and the Justice Department referring to the Manhattan DA’s investigation of Trump; all communications sent by and received from the ex-prosecutors Dunne and Pomerantz; and all documents and communications referring or relating to the Manhattan district attorney's office's receipt and use of federal funds."
Jordan demanded that Bragg contact the House Judiciary Committee to schedule his transcribed interview by March 23 at 10:00 a.m. Jordan demanded those records be turned over to the committee by the same day.
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House Judiciary Committee demands Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg testify about possible Trump indictment
Jordan said the facts have not changed since 2018 and Trump's 2024 presidential campaign is the 'only intervening factor'
EXCLUSIVE: The House Judiciary Committee is demanding that Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg testify before Congress in the wake of his "unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial authority," as he reportedly considers indicting former President Trump in charges related to alleged hush money payments made to adult film star Stormy Daniels in 2016.
Committee Chairman Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, sent a letter, exclusively obtained by Fox News Digital, to Bragg Monday morning demanding his testimony. The letter was also signed by House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., and House Committee on Administration Chairman Brian Steil, R-Wis.
Jordan warned Bragg that if news reports of a possible Trump indictment are accurate, Bragg’s actions "will erode confidence in the evenhanded application of justice and unalterably interfere in the court of the 2024 presidential election."
"In light of the serious consequences of your actions, we expect that you will testify about what plainly appears to be a politically motivated prosecutorial decision," Jordan wrote.
The potential charges stem from the $130,000 hush money payment then-Trump lawyer Michael Cohen made to adult film star Stormy Daniels, whose legal name is Stephanie Clifford, in the weeks leading up to the 2016 presidential election in exchange for her silence about an alleged sexual encounter with Trump in 2006.
Federal prosecutors in the U.S. attorneys office for the Southern District of New York opted out of charging Trump related to the Stormy Daniels payment in 2019, even as Cohen implicated him as part of his plea deal. The Federal Election Commission also tossed its investigation into the matter in 2021.
"The legal theory underlying your reported prosecution appears to be tenuous and untested," Jordan wrote.
The statute of limitations on a matter of "falsifying business records," which Jordan said "would ordinarily be a misdemeanor subject to a two-year statute of limitations," would have "expired long ago."
"State law, however, allows a district attorney to ‘elevate nominal misdemeanor conduct’ to a felony charge if the ‘intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof,’" Jordan wrote, noting that showing would extend the statute of limitations to five years.
Jordan said that the five-year statute "would likely expire soon and thus explains your rush to indictment."
"The only potential speculated crime that could be alleged here would be a violation of campaign finance law, according to one scholar, a charge that the Justice Department has already declined to bring," Jordan wrote.
Federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York in 2019 opted out of bringing charges against Trump or anyone else beyond Cohen for campaign finance violations related to the Stormy Daniels payment.
Meanwhile, Jordan slammed who he called Bragg’s "star witness," Michael Cohen.
"In addition to the novel and untested legal theory, your star witness for this prosecution has a serious credibility problem—a problem that you have reportedly recognized," Jordan wrote. "This case relies heavily on the testimony of Michael Cohen, a convicted perjurer with a demonstrable prejudice against President Trump."
Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison in 2018 after pleading guilty to federal charges, including lying to Congress, as well as campaign-finance violations and tax evasion.
"In 2019, when he testified before Democrats on the House Oversight Committee to aid their fruitless investigation into President Trump, Cohen lied again—six times," Jordan said, adding that Cohen "has been vocal about his deeply personal animus toward President Trump."
Jordan stressed that Bragg’s "impending indictment is motivated by political calculations."
The Manhattan District Attorney’s investigation into Trump was opened in 2019 by then-DA Cyrus Vance. The probe was focused on possible bank, insurance and tax fraud. The case initially involved financial dealings of Trump’s Manhattan properties, including his flagship Fifth Avenue building, Trump Tower, and the valuation of his 213-acre estate Seven Springs in Westchester.
The investigation, last year, led to tax fraud charges against The Trump Organization, and its finance chief Allen Weisselberg.
Jordan maintained that "the facts of this matter have not changed since 2018 and no new witnesses have emerged."
"The only intervening factor, it appears, was President Trump’s announcement that he would be a candidate for President in 2024," Jordan wrote.
Jordan went on to slam Bragg, saying his "progressive criminal justice policies that allow career ‘criminals to run the streets' of Manhattan requires congressional scrutiny about how public safety funds appropriated by Congress are implemented by local law-enforcement agencies."
Jordan added that because the "circumstances of this matter stem, in part, from Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation, Congress may consider legislative reforms to the authorities of special counsels and their relationships with other prosecuting entities."
Jordan is demanding that Bragg turn over records and communications between Manhattan DA office and the Justice Department referring to the Manhattan DA’s investigation of Trump; all communications sent by and received from the ex-prosecutors Dunne and Pomerantz; and all documents and communications referring or relating to the Manhattan district attorney's office's receipt and use of federal funds."
Jordan demanded that Bragg contact the House Judiciary Committee to schedule his transcribed interview by March 23 at 10:00 a.m. Jordan demanded those records be turned over to the committee by the same day.
House Judiciary Committee demands Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg testify about possible Trump indictment
EXCLUSIVE: The House Judiciary Committee is demanding that Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg testify before Congress in the wake of his “unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial authority,” as he reportedly considers indicting former President Trump for alleged hush money payments made to...
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New post from KD on Market Ticker about this. I concur with his assessment:
Trump Arrest? I Don't Care - or Even GOOD!
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The social media space is all "a-twitter" about Trump allegedly being arrested for an offense related to alleged "hush money" and Stormy Daniels.
I do not know the precise charge or even if the reports are real; this appears to be a state matter in some way related to either the "pay for silence" act itself or how the money was moved around. Exactly how this implicates a legal violation is unclear until we know what they charge him with, if they do; it is generally not unlawful to pay someone to shut up (witness all manner of legal settlements that include confidentiality clauses, non-disclosure agreements and similar) but there are exceptions.
The outrage on the right is of course predictable.
Personally, I could care less and if you are one of those folks who thinks this is a reason to go to war (whether "civil" or not) IMHO you're out of your mind.
Trump had plenty of opportunities as President to stop the two-faced, "two class" legal system in this nation: One for people who are favored, and another for everyone else. Let's start with Hillary, who he repeatedly said he was going to "lock up." That was not a political claim either; she had clearly, openly and deliberately violated black-letter law relating to classified material handling by setting up an email server in her house and then funneling classified material through it in a bid to prevent all of her traffic from being subject to legally required record-keeping by federal employees. That really is illegal and literally the day Trump was elected he stopped talking about and did not direct his Attorney General to make good on that campaign slogan.
Or, if you want something a bit more personal than some abstract record-keeping requirement who remembers "A girl in Iowa" during Trump's Presidency? In 2021 the accused was found guilty of murder but within a quite-short period of time after the criminal act itself we knew the accused was an illegal invader who had no right to be here in the United States. He, like so many others, was employed by local farming interests -- heavily GOP, of course, since most farming areas are.
Trump had the full authority as President to issue a NPRM and, under proper process, require the use of E-verify for every employer in the United States -- including of course all farmers. Requiring the control number from that system on every 941 that is filed (employment tax return which all employers must file under penalty of perjury, and pay the amounts owed) would have put an immediate, full and permanent stop to the use of "undocumented" labor in the United States provided those who didn't comply were prosecuted. Tax fraud in that sort of instance is ridiculously easy to prove and its a criminal offense. Of course this would have been tremendously unpopular among certain groups of people (farmers in particular) which, in Iowa, are a very serious voting block, never mind in other agricultural states, most of them "Red."
Trump of course did nothing of the sort even though it is a fact that had the convicted individual not been in the nation Mollie Tibbetts would be alive today. There are several other examples and while you can claim that illegal aliens are not "more disposed" to criminal activity if you'd like that is not the point -- the point is they do commit crimes and you can't commit them here if you're not here. Every single one of those crimes is preventable by simply demanding such persons not be present in the United States, and since they're here illegally there is every basis in the law to do exactly that.
So pardon me if I really don't care if a NY Prosecutor makes a public and political spectacle out of this. After all being arrested for whatever Trump is alleged to have done in violation of NY Law pales beside the murder of a 20 year old woman who's only offense was attempting to maintain personal physical fitness by going for a jog, and the wildly outrageous and illegal employment of persons all over this nation that Trump had every ability to stop, as has every other President, and yet he refused because people with political and economic power want to break the law for economic advantage and, in the process, screw law-abiding Americans out of the jobs they would otherwise have at a higher, market-based and law-abiding wage.
This is not, incidentally, the only example. Exactly zero of what was done with his "2 weeks to slow the spread" that turned into a three year disaster was proper. No part of the PREP Act, for example, enables the government to censor information whether directly or by conspiring with others. Yet they did exactly that, did they not? What did Trump do about this? Nothing. Indeed he gave legal force through his HHS Secretary, backed up with billions of dollars, for protocols that were used in hospitals and killed patients, never mind allowing State and local governments to intentionally ship infected people into nursing homes without a single federal indictment issuing against a single person involved. That was and is manslaughter so spare me the outrage since your much-loved Orange Man did nothing to stop or punish it, despite having plenty of federal legal tools with which to do so -- like, for example, removing that which he, personally, put in place through HHS that incentivized these acts.
If Mr. Warp Speed gets the stuff-n-cuff treatment I will quaff two fingers of high-quality single-malt just on that basis alone.
Oh yes, Biden has done the same and more, but Trump had the capacity, as President at the time, to call a hard stop on this insanity in March of 2020 and he not only refused, he personally ratcheted up the fear porn and enabled the lockdowns. Yes, the states executed on that but it was Trump who backed all of it including the "bonus protocols" for hospitals which remain in place today.
So no, I do not care if he gets personally abused by the NY Prosecutor. After the last three years, and putting in place the domestic economic spending policies that are now likely to lead to a catastrophe worse than 2008, never mind further enabling the medical monster that is now one third of the federal budget and yet ridiculously violates 100+ year old felony criminal law (15 USC Chapter 1) on a daily basis am I supposed to care if a bit of karma visits him? Do recall, dear reader, that he did promise to stop that during his 2016 campaign in three separate platform planks and every one of them disappeared, never to be seen again, within minutes of the election being called for him. I stated before the election I would not participate in that sham because I had every expectation he was going to do exactly that -- and I was right.
Whether or not there's an actual offense here I will reserve judgement on until I see the facts -- but in terms of whether I care if Trump gets treated in a different way than anyone else may I note he has, through his political and in fact business life, been the instigator and beneficiary of said disparate treatment all along and pointedly refused as President to enforce the rule of law evenly on more occasions than I can count, so if he gets reamed by his own double standard I not only do not care I laugh at, and shall toast, the irony.
Good luck Donald.
And as for those of you who wish to and are stoking outrage over this?
Go look in the mirror because you, like everyone else's, failure to demand the government actually enforce the law and instead cheering on the breaking of same when when and only when it benefits you is why we're here as a nation today. It is why the BLM riots and arsons went unanswered. It killed your Gram during the pandemic and screwed your kids out of two+ years of education. It is why we're a hell of a mess budget-wise with The Fed and everyone else furiously trying to keep all the plates in the air -- and they're very likely to fail. Now those of you who are "outraged" appear to be engaged in precisely the same selective crap.
No?
Well then where was the general strike in 2008? How about to enforce "lock her up"? How about in March of 2020 when Trump did his little "15 days" speech, which, at the end of the 15 days, he reneged upon directly? Where was in response the "oh, I'm an essential worker while the bar is closed eh? Tough crap; no groceries for you until my friend the bartender is open on an unrestricted basis as before and I can go have a drink -- until then YOU CAN STARVE!" How about in 2020 when you all said the election was stolen? You didn't believe that either, did you?
A general strike is perfectly legal; nobody can compel you to actually work. That's forbidden under the 13th Amendment. Refusing to labor is legal, period, it is non-violent and if in fact half of the 60% of the adult, working-age population, which is the employmentopulation ratio I remind you, was to stick up the middle finger government would be forced to cave in to whatever the demand is; absolutely nothing in our government or economy can be maintained on any sort of rational basis if half the people in this nation who are allegedly "employed" simply sit at home and refuse to return until the crap -- and screwing -- stops.
Exactly zero percent of those who make such claims actually mean it and will put skin in the game.
Masturbating in public is disgusting yet that's exactly what you've been -- and still are -- doing.
Trump Arrest? I Don't Care - or Even GOOD!
[Comments enabled]
The social media space is all "a-twitter" about Trump allegedly being arrested for an offense related to alleged "hush money" and Stormy Daniels.
I do not know the precise charge or even if the reports are real; this appears to be a state matter in some way related to either the "pay for silence" act itself or how the money was moved around. Exactly how this implicates a legal violation is unclear until we know what they charge him with, if they do; it is generally not unlawful to pay someone to shut up (witness all manner of legal settlements that include confidentiality clauses, non-disclosure agreements and similar) but there are exceptions.
The outrage on the right is of course predictable.
Personally, I could care less and if you are one of those folks who thinks this is a reason to go to war (whether "civil" or not) IMHO you're out of your mind.
Trump had plenty of opportunities as President to stop the two-faced, "two class" legal system in this nation: One for people who are favored, and another for everyone else. Let's start with Hillary, who he repeatedly said he was going to "lock up." That was not a political claim either; she had clearly, openly and deliberately violated black-letter law relating to classified material handling by setting up an email server in her house and then funneling classified material through it in a bid to prevent all of her traffic from being subject to legally required record-keeping by federal employees. That really is illegal and literally the day Trump was elected he stopped talking about and did not direct his Attorney General to make good on that campaign slogan.
Or, if you want something a bit more personal than some abstract record-keeping requirement who remembers "A girl in Iowa" during Trump's Presidency? In 2021 the accused was found guilty of murder but within a quite-short period of time after the criminal act itself we knew the accused was an illegal invader who had no right to be here in the United States. He, like so many others, was employed by local farming interests -- heavily GOP, of course, since most farming areas are.
Trump had the full authority as President to issue a NPRM and, under proper process, require the use of E-verify for every employer in the United States -- including of course all farmers. Requiring the control number from that system on every 941 that is filed (employment tax return which all employers must file under penalty of perjury, and pay the amounts owed) would have put an immediate, full and permanent stop to the use of "undocumented" labor in the United States provided those who didn't comply were prosecuted. Tax fraud in that sort of instance is ridiculously easy to prove and its a criminal offense. Of course this would have been tremendously unpopular among certain groups of people (farmers in particular) which, in Iowa, are a very serious voting block, never mind in other agricultural states, most of them "Red."
Trump of course did nothing of the sort even though it is a fact that had the convicted individual not been in the nation Mollie Tibbetts would be alive today. There are several other examples and while you can claim that illegal aliens are not "more disposed" to criminal activity if you'd like that is not the point -- the point is they do commit crimes and you can't commit them here if you're not here. Every single one of those crimes is preventable by simply demanding such persons not be present in the United States, and since they're here illegally there is every basis in the law to do exactly that.
So pardon me if I really don't care if a NY Prosecutor makes a public and political spectacle out of this. After all being arrested for whatever Trump is alleged to have done in violation of NY Law pales beside the murder of a 20 year old woman who's only offense was attempting to maintain personal physical fitness by going for a jog, and the wildly outrageous and illegal employment of persons all over this nation that Trump had every ability to stop, as has every other President, and yet he refused because people with political and economic power want to break the law for economic advantage and, in the process, screw law-abiding Americans out of the jobs they would otherwise have at a higher, market-based and law-abiding wage.
This is not, incidentally, the only example. Exactly zero of what was done with his "2 weeks to slow the spread" that turned into a three year disaster was proper. No part of the PREP Act, for example, enables the government to censor information whether directly or by conspiring with others. Yet they did exactly that, did they not? What did Trump do about this? Nothing. Indeed he gave legal force through his HHS Secretary, backed up with billions of dollars, for protocols that were used in hospitals and killed patients, never mind allowing State and local governments to intentionally ship infected people into nursing homes without a single federal indictment issuing against a single person involved. That was and is manslaughter so spare me the outrage since your much-loved Orange Man did nothing to stop or punish it, despite having plenty of federal legal tools with which to do so -- like, for example, removing that which he, personally, put in place through HHS that incentivized these acts.
If Mr. Warp Speed gets the stuff-n-cuff treatment I will quaff two fingers of high-quality single-malt just on that basis alone.
Oh yes, Biden has done the same and more, but Trump had the capacity, as President at the time, to call a hard stop on this insanity in March of 2020 and he not only refused, he personally ratcheted up the fear porn and enabled the lockdowns. Yes, the states executed on that but it was Trump who backed all of it including the "bonus protocols" for hospitals which remain in place today.
So no, I do not care if he gets personally abused by the NY Prosecutor. After the last three years, and putting in place the domestic economic spending policies that are now likely to lead to a catastrophe worse than 2008, never mind further enabling the medical monster that is now one third of the federal budget and yet ridiculously violates 100+ year old felony criminal law (15 USC Chapter 1) on a daily basis am I supposed to care if a bit of karma visits him? Do recall, dear reader, that he did promise to stop that during his 2016 campaign in three separate platform planks and every one of them disappeared, never to be seen again, within minutes of the election being called for him. I stated before the election I would not participate in that sham because I had every expectation he was going to do exactly that -- and I was right.
Whether or not there's an actual offense here I will reserve judgement on until I see the facts -- but in terms of whether I care if Trump gets treated in a different way than anyone else may I note he has, through his political and in fact business life, been the instigator and beneficiary of said disparate treatment all along and pointedly refused as President to enforce the rule of law evenly on more occasions than I can count, so if he gets reamed by his own double standard I not only do not care I laugh at, and shall toast, the irony.
Good luck Donald.
And as for those of you who wish to and are stoking outrage over this?
Go look in the mirror because you, like everyone else's, failure to demand the government actually enforce the law and instead cheering on the breaking of same when when and only when it benefits you is why we're here as a nation today. It is why the BLM riots and arsons went unanswered. It killed your Gram during the pandemic and screwed your kids out of two+ years of education. It is why we're a hell of a mess budget-wise with The Fed and everyone else furiously trying to keep all the plates in the air -- and they're very likely to fail. Now those of you who are "outraged" appear to be engaged in precisely the same selective crap.
No?
Well then where was the general strike in 2008? How about to enforce "lock her up"? How about in March of 2020 when Trump did his little "15 days" speech, which, at the end of the 15 days, he reneged upon directly? Where was in response the "oh, I'm an essential worker while the bar is closed eh? Tough crap; no groceries for you until my friend the bartender is open on an unrestricted basis as before and I can go have a drink -- until then YOU CAN STARVE!" How about in 2020 when you all said the election was stolen? You didn't believe that either, did you?
A general strike is perfectly legal; nobody can compel you to actually work. That's forbidden under the 13th Amendment. Refusing to labor is legal, period, it is non-violent and if in fact half of the 60% of the adult, working-age population, which is the employment
opulation ratio I remind you, was to stick up the middle finger government would be forced to cave in to whatever the demand is; absolutely nothing in our government or economy can be maintained on any sort of rational basis if half the people in this nation who are allegedly "employed" simply sit at home and refuse to return until the crap -- and screwing -- stops.Exactly zero percent of those who make such claims actually mean it and will put skin in the game.
Masturbating in public is disgusting yet that's exactly what you've been -- and still are -- doing.
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