BRKG Jury Reaches Verdict in Derek Chauvin Trial In The Death Of George Floyd - GUILTY ALL COUNTS, post 215

hunybee

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psychrn said:
True enough, but I think he got into his "Cop Mode", where no bystander is going to influence him; I think he was fighting more against them than he was against Floyd. He defiantly stared down that crowd, admittedly a wise choice in some circumstances.

Unfortunately, in this case, he should have backed off, got off of him, gave Narcan and done whatever else he had time for, then turfed that guy to the first rescue arriving.
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watching the full and entire video of the encounter was rough. it is hard to see a person die, no matter the cause.

i will be perfectly honest here: i initially was 50/50 at most, but depending on the day and the details that came out, i was sometimes 60/40 that he was guilty. that was always with the caveat that we didn't know everything because there had not been a trial yet.

then the video came out.

yah...no.

then the autopsy.


uh...really no.

then the trial.

definitely no. he did not kill him and did not contribute and he followed everything as he should have. he was even nice and patient and tried to accommodate him to ease the situation and deescalate.

do i think that chauvin is a boy scout and a stellar human being? meh. from what some of the things that have come out about him not related to this.....meh. i think chauvin is about as saintly as george floyd, unless new info on him arises. before all of this, if i had the chance to be around both of them for a while, i would probably be polite and smile and excuse myself from their company. but as i said, him being a massive a-hole as a person doesn't mean he killed him.

floyd was a dead man walking. i simply cannot find fault in how the officers handled that. we all have to try very hard to not judge this situation retroactively with all of the info we have that has come out AFTER the fact, and apply it to the situation as it happened. there is a lot of things that i have heard people claim they would have done this way or that, but at the time, how would they have known? why did they put him on the ground instead of the back f the car? a number of reasons. one was that Floyd requested that they do that! he was starting to flip out over being put in the cop car. he was perfectly fine in his tiny car that he was driving, but got all manner of wigged out at the prospect of going in the cop car, making it seem like he had a fear of small spaces.....but not his own car. the officers offered to have the air on and keep it calm and mellow. he tried to accommodate him (within reason for the situation), but floyd was getting very agitated. he insisted that they put him on the ground instead. he was fighting them, and at one point, he was kicking the officers. how would they know that he had ingested all the drugs he had, or even the amounts of it he had?

the "friend" in the car with him (actually his dealer), refused to testify on grounds that it would incriminate him for 3rd degree murder. that for sure raises some big questions, yah?

why did he stay there on his shoulder in that position? it sure looked terrible. it did. it was difficult to watch. why would they do that?

once we saw the other body came video, certain things got a lot more clear. he was not on his neck at all. it was his shoulder. that changes things. this hold was how the police are trained. the statement by the chief right after it happened was proven to be false, as the training manual for those cops showed that it WAS the standard. so why would the chief say such a thing? so it was standard procedure and they are trained to do.

why would he keep him there so so long? they were waiting for the ambulance that they HAD called (even though the media kept saying they had not). what should they have done? he was 6' 6" and weighed 240 easy. he was a big dude. big. so once he is subdued, what should they have done with a 6' 6" 240lb man that has just been fighting them because he didn't wan to go in the back of the cop car? they had to wait for the ambulance and had no place to put him. they have to make sure he stays subdued and not a threat. now, they have a crowd that is gathering and yelling things at them. their attention is now very divided.

there is so much more in the video.
 
TammyinWI

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Um, 8 or 9 minutes is just way too stinkin' long to kneel on someone like that. Especially if there was carbon monoxide from the exhaust right there. There were more then enough officers to keep the perp under control. And Chauvin even looked at the camera and kept pushing his knee down hard.

Of course, Floyd needed to be restrained, as he was a monster fueled by illicit drugs...and not complying. But, Chauvin should of listened to the fellow officer, who said twice...isn't that long enough???

No one deserves to have their neck kneeled on that long...way too long. JMTCW. People deserve to breathe!
 
hunybee

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Breeta said:
Look what mass email I just got in my mailbox from superintendent of school district.

I don’t even know what to do with this.
:mad:

Dear (School District) Students, Families, and Employees:

Today, the jury has announced guilty verdicts on all three counts of the Derek Chauvin trial for the killing of George Floyd. This senseless killing and its aftermath have sparked emotions and conversations around the world. These issues are complex, controversial and, for many, very personal.

To assist with conversations, the Los Angeles County Office of Education (LACOE) has provided some resources that parents and staff may use to engage in meaningful dialogue.

Teaching Tolerance has a Let’s Talk Guide that can help classroom educators in creating the foundation for discussing race, racism, and other difficult topics with students.

In addition, the National Association of School Psychologists shares Talking About Race and Privilege: Lesson Plan for Middle and High School Students.
Sincerely,

xxxxxxx
Superintendent

links provided in email:

us-east-2.protection.sophos.com

Talking About Race and Privilege: Lesson Plan for Middle and High School Students

This lesson plan can be used with middle or high school students to define privilege and identify examples in students' lives or the world in which they live.
us-east-2.protection.sophos.com
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how about it sparking a conversation about theft, overdosing, intimidation of victims, and fraud?
 
TKO

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This was an easy pick for the jury. Cops haven't won any favors from citizens they rob in speed traps and siding with BLM. Nor do cops really prevent crime. Sure, they park an SUV by the gas stations to thwart burglaries from the welfare animals. Why anyone would want to be a cop is beside me. Let it go back to hoods hiring their own security forces.
 
hunybee

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TammyinWI said:
Um, 8 or 9 minutes is just way too stinkin' long to kneel on someone like that. Especially if there was carbon monoxide from the exhaust right there. There were more then enough officers to keep the perp under control. And Chauvin even looked at the camera and kept pushing his knee down hard.

Of course, Floyd needed to be restrained, as he was a monster fueled by illicit drugs...and not complying. But, Chauvin should of listened to the fellow officer, who said twice...isn't that long enough???

No one deserves to have their neck kneeled on that long...way too long. JMTCW. People deserve to breathe!
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again, he was NOT on his neck. he was on his shoulder and his breathing was NOT constricted from that.
 
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TammyinWI said:
Um, 8 or 9 minutes is just way too stinkin' long to kneel on someone like that. Especially if there was carbon monoxide from the exhaust right there. There were more then enough officers to keep the perp under control. And Chauvin even looked at the camera and kept pushing his knee down hard.

Of course, Floyd needed to be restrained, as he was a monster fueled by illicit drugs...and not complying. But, Chauvin should of listened to the fellow officer, who said twice...isn't that long enough???

No one deserves to have their neck kneeled on that long...way too long. JMTCW. People deserve to breathe!
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He did not kneel on his neck
 
hunybee

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Tristan said:
So, has Mlps 'lit up' yet?

Or, are they simply dancin' in the streets?
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i was listening to the scanners. there are "protests" all over there and guns being used and fires and robberies, and assaults. and all the usual stuff. one guy was confronted by police about his weapon being drawn, and he told them he was defending his property from people that were trying to break his windows and steal stuff.
 
NoDandy

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NCGirl said:
Can truckers pick and choose their loads?
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Independent owner / operators can. Company drivers, no. Although you can refuse to go some places. For example, I was a company driver. I refused to go to NYC, and California. Recruiting drivers was tough enough, they just said OK.
 
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vector7 said:
AOC says Chauvin conviction in Floyd death is "not justice."

"I don't want this moment to be framed as this system working."

RT 45secs
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1384638503384911873
View: https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1384638503384911873

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1384660126825656323
View: https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1384660126825656323
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Oh, it won't be, chica! Not by any thinking, patriotic American! I was just telling hubby how it illustrated how badly our jury system is broken.

Summerthyme
 
Satanta

Satanta

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This is my Shocked Face.

It looks just like my Unsurprised Face.

My Standing in Line waiting to pay for my Beer Face.

My 'I don't give a Sh*t' Face
and most other Faces I carry on the front of my Skull.

Except my "I am about to tear out your Spine and beat you to Death with it" Face which Smiles.

Totally usurprised.
 
Dennis Olson

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I haven’t read this thread since post 220 or so. I’ll just say this: Floyd was under control the entire 9 minutes. After controlling a perp, they should be cuffed & stuffed immediately. That was not done. Honestly, were I face down on the street for that long, I wouldn’t have survived it. Chauvin was wrong in what he did. While I think a murder conviction is way over-the-top, he was absolutely wrong in his treatment of Floyd.
 
Millwright

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The locals turned liberal in the last few years.

They elected a bunch of commies who enabled a foreign invasion of Somalis, Hmongs AND empowered the ghetto apes to act like this.


Call me when BLAMTIFA migrates through Nebraska and gets into Kansas.

At that point, I may go sit on a hill near the northern Oklahoma border and stand overwatch.

Until then, this is all theater to gin up the jungle uprisings in blue shitholes.

F'em and feed 'em fish heads.

They can enjoy what they have built.
 
Doomer Doug

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The riot action is now in Columbus, Ohio where police just shot a 13 year old girl "with a knife." Things going hot. Portland is on target for an 8pm riot in North east around 15 minutes from now.
New York City is going tactical as are several other cities. We got several more hours of rioting to go. the chaos has only started.

The poor, dumb DISARMED NG UNITS are going to get pounded with bricks and clubs.
The House voted 216 to 210 to NOT censure Waters. A total of 426. Since there are 435 in the House, nine are missing or whatever. Not sure about that.

The blunt truth is there are NO MORAL DEMOCRATS AT ALL. Not even ONE of the Demon crats voted to censure this bitch who has now triggered multiple riots nationwide. Every single Democrat is a traitor and worthy of a quick trial and a fast execution.

People who expect SCOTUS to intervene are delusional SCOTUS just ruled AGAIN against hearing a Pennsylvania election case last week.

In about 4 hours Putin gives his speech I hope he annexes both White Russia and the Ukraine.
 
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