"Just lookit those guys, settin' around, gossiping, slurping coffee, and GETTIN' PAID FOR IT!"
GOV/MIL 'It hasn’t been a good deployment' | Mom describes her National Guard son's experience protecting DC
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All great points!
Grouchy Granny
Deceased
I know when the OS had to go to AT (Annual Training) he would always pack a small stove (not sure what kind he had/has), instant coffee, powdered eggs and assorted whatnots that were not on the list, but were light and easy to cram into a pack.
He could not be without his "wakey wakey juice" no matter what.
And the NG feeds their people like beyond crap! Maybe WW2 MRE's (or whatever they were called) and has the absolute balls to charge the guys to feed them.
OS would rather go hungry and forage than eat that garbage!
He could not be without his "wakey wakey juice" no matter what.
And the NG feeds their people like beyond crap! Maybe WW2 MRE's (or whatever they were called) and has the absolute balls to charge the guys to feed them.
OS would rather go hungry and forage than eat that garbage!
I'm essentially clueless about the military, so this may be a really dumb question... but why would these MEN (isn't the guard mostly made up of people who have already completed at least a few years of regular service?) not check the weather report for DC after getting orders to deploy, And *pack for the weather*?
Do they really need mommy to tell them how to pack?
Something is off about this story.
Summerthyme
Do they really need mommy to tell them how to pack?
Something is off about this story.
Summerthyme
To some degree, you load per orders.
Bubble Head
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I don't know who ordered their deployment but their CO's are still responsible for their troops. The whole scene looks like a cluster fxxx to me. Could make fragging come back in style. I know we who have served and others before have seen worst conditions but this is downtown DC where chow wagons and hot drinks can just roll down the street. Good first start for the Demoncraps. Be great to find out the CO's are staying at Trumps Hotel.
Knoxville's Joker
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The money for the wall was taken from construction projects. There were dilapidated buildings that were put on delayed rebuild to pay for the wall.
Lack of ammo is more to do with Posse Commitus than anything. Ammo is supposed to be delivered upon arrival to the location.
The more they screw the troops, the more they are endangering their own longer term safety.
Sid Vicious
Veteran Member
Its the National Guard. Not exactly the crème de la crème here.
Knoxville's Joker
Has No Life - Lives on TB
This can also be true, but, the equipment and lodging accomodations are a real stickler and is something that will backfire.
Remember after this year, campaigning starts for 2023 seats. The more they rivet folks now and make it painful, the more they are stepping on their petards...
Melodi
Disaster Cat
There's a question to which I don't know the answer, but when were these guys even told where they were going?
From some of the reports,I saw in the bomb shelter and also heard from folks in the US, some of these people got a "be ready in two hours call" but no information as to where they were being deployed.
If that is actually the case (and not just rumors) then packing becomes more difficult, people probably grabbed their usual weekend kits or whatever and figured they would find out more when they got there.
Again, I totally understand that military life isn't intended to be comfortable, but putting people in unhealthy situations that are likely to cause medical casualties when it is obviously isn't necessary seems stupid and wasteful to me.
I'd feel totally different if they had been called in because the New Madrid Quake 2.0 had just destroyed most of the midwest or in the aftermath of a REAL terror attack on DC with thousands dead and wounded.
But this is a "deployment" in the US Capitol, surely they can do better, especially given the country is in the middle of a pandemic with a disease that attacks the lungs and respiratory system, keep them dressed warm and fed at least!
From some of the reports,I saw in the bomb shelter and also heard from folks in the US, some of these people got a "be ready in two hours call" but no information as to where they were being deployed.
If that is actually the case (and not just rumors) then packing becomes more difficult, people probably grabbed their usual weekend kits or whatever and figured they would find out more when they got there.
Again, I totally understand that military life isn't intended to be comfortable, but putting people in unhealthy situations that are likely to cause medical casualties when it is obviously isn't necessary seems stupid and wasteful to me.
I'd feel totally different if they had been called in because the New Madrid Quake 2.0 had just destroyed most of the midwest or in the aftermath of a REAL terror attack on DC with thousands dead and wounded.
But this is a "deployment" in the US Capitol, surely they can do better, especially given the country is in the middle of a pandemic with a disease that attacks the lungs and respiratory system, keep them dressed warm and fed at least!
AlfaMan
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'It hasn’t been a good deployment' | Mom describes her National Guard son's experience protecting DC
"In many ways he felt he was better cared for by the Army in Afghanistan than he feels he’s cared for now.”www.wusa9.com
'It hasn’t been a good deployment' | Mom describes her National Guard son's experience protecting DC
"In many ways he felt he was better cared for by the Army in Afghanistan than he feels he’s cared for now.”
Author: Tom Dempsey (WUSA)
Published: 8:40 PM EST January 13, 2021
Updated: 9:24 AM EST January 14, 2021
WASHINGTON — Among the men and women now serving on the front lines to protect the Nation's Capital is a Maryland National Guard member who saw combat in Afghanistan.
He also works as a police officer and has a wife and young son waiting for him to come home.
Years after fighting in the Middle East, his current deployment has him stationed at the US Capitol.
The shifts are long, the outside conditions are cold, and the overall experience of being there has been anything but pleasant.
"I just got off the phone with him and he said some of the young men that he’s with don’t have enough money to buy some extra gear they might have so they’re wearing three pairs of extra socks to keep their feet warm," his mother said on Wednesday. "He went online today to order some more gear from Amazon that he’s going to have delivered to my nephew who lives in DC and then my nephew is going to walk over some of the stuff.”
The guardsman's mother asked WUSA9 not to broadcast their last names due to the sensitive nature of her son's deployment.
However, after hearing about the conditions her son is living in now, she wanted to let others know about the experience facing the men and women working to keep DC secure.
After her son deployed last Thursday, she said he and other Guardsmen have been forced to use trash bags and armor for pillows and blankets.
The servicemembers aren't allowed to drink coffee "because of the optics," according to her son.
No laundry service is available after her son brought enough clothing for two days, the mother claimed.
By the time dinner rolls around, the guardsman's mom said troops could be greeted with an unappetizing option.
"He gets cold food at about eight o’clock at night. He gets a box of cold food left out on the sidewalk for him. Cold spaghetti at eight o’clock," she said. "He feels like he really isn’t getting enough food, so he’s bought some of his own food. He’s gone to local convenience stores.”
"I can hear stress in his voice. He sounds tired," she said. "It hasn’t been a good deployment and he doesn’t feel like he has a defined mission.”
With the world still dealing with a pandemic, the concerns have also stretched to COVID-19.
Her son says troops often sleep close to one another at night, with some often taking their masks off.
"He said he’s not allowed to request a test unless he has obvious symptoms," she said.
After many photos of guardsmen sleeping on floors were posted to social media on Wednesday, the National Guard released a statement saying the photos likely showed the troops when they were considered on-duty.
"Please know our National Guardsmen have appropriate lodging for when they are off-duty; the photos circulating are of them on-duty, in a designated rest area between shifts," the statement read. "Being present is the first step in ensuring the safety of our citizens and our Nation's Capitol. Our security personnel work in shifts and rest when they can as others stand watch."
With many people reaching out about how they could help, the National Guard added that it cannot logistically accept donations of any kind.
Moving forward, the mother of the Maryland National Guard member who spoke to WUSA9 hoped her son's time on the front lines would be over soon.
"It’s hard and we’ll be thankful when all of our soldiers can come home," she said. "He said in many ways he felt he was better cared for by the army in Afghanistan than he feels he’s cared for now.”
They're supporting the communist takeover of the USA. I have ZERO pity for the NG troops. They were armed last week and are armed now ready to shoot citizens; tough sh*t on their part. F them.
Josie
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We really don't know what they are there for. We know the official story but I'm betting the truth is something much darker.
AlfaMan
TB Fanatic
The MDW (military district of Washington) has the worst housing situation of any military base or area in the world. All the troops and where do you put them? Been this way for forever. The marine VAQ allowance for families living off post borders on the ridiculous. Troops like being posted here, they can get a cheap apartment and bank the rest of the monthly housing allowance. Here's VAQ rates by rank in the MDW/DC area. Remember, all this money is taxpayer supplied. Average DC apartment rent is 2500 bucks.
The troops are probably staying at Fort AP Hill, Fort Meade, maybe Ft. Dietrick. Those are the only posts I know that still have a significant amount of barracks still standing and usable.
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MHA: DC053 - Military Housing Area Name: WASHINGTON, DC METRO AREA
GRADE WITH DEPENDENTS WITHOUT DEPENDENTS
E01 $2,520 $2,061
E02 $2,520 $2,061
E03 $2,520 $2,061
E04 $2,520 $2,061
E05 $2,544 $2,340
E06 $2,700 $2,493
E07 $2,865 $2,523
E08 $3,051 $2,580
E09 $3,225 $2,619
W01 $2,715 $2,520
W02 $2,943 $2,577
W03 $3,168 $2,625
W04 $3,249 $2,736
W05 $3,351 $2,907
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O02E $3,135 $2,610
O03E $3,264 $2,691
O01 $2,568 $2,490
O02 $2,697 $2,538
O03 $3,159 $2,640
O04 $3,384 $2,877
O05 $3,540 $2,982
O06 $3,570 $3,147
O07 $3,600 $3,204
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Fort McNair, Washington DC
Marine Safety Center, Washington DC
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AlfaMan
TB Fanatic
The only stocks in this area that Fema has in any quantity are body bags and search and rescue equipment for state Task force one rescue units.
Press release from FEMA yesterday regarding the coronation.
FEMA Supporting Government Partners Across DC Region in Preparation for 59th Presidential Inauguration | FEMA.gov
FEMA Supporting Government Partners Across DC Region in Preparation for 59th Presidential Inauguration
| Release Date | Release Number |
|---|---|
| January 14, 2021 | HQ-21-011 |
During this historic event, public safety remains FEMA’s highest priority. In light of recent events and the COVID-19 pandemic, we encourage anyone planning to be in the Washington D.C., metro area to follow the guidance of local officials, adhere to public health precautions and report suspicious activity to law enforcement. Experiencing the inauguration from your home by watching on television or online remains your best option to view this event.
FEMA works closely with our federal, state and local partners and synchronizes federal interagency coordination to prepare for and respond to all hazards in the National Capital Region, enhancing homeland security and emergency management operations. FEMA has provided planning, training and exercise support to our federal, state and local partners to promote an enhanced preparedness posture over the past several months leading up to the 59th Presidential Inauguration.
The Department of Homeland Security designated the Presidential Inauguration as a recurring National Special Security Event (NSSE). Events may be designated NSSEs when they warrant the full protection, incident management and counterterrorism capabilities of the federal government. On Jan. 12, Acting Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security Pete Gaynor extended the period of the NSSE to begin a week in advance of the Inauguration and run from Jan. 13 – Jan. 21. The Acting Secretary determined the extended NSSE period was necessary to provide for a unified command and control and ensure the safety and security of this special event.
Due to the complex and sensitive nature of this event, different federal agencies are designated to lead certain efforts.
- When an event is designated a NSSE, the U.S. Secret Service assumes its mandated role as the lead federal agency for security planning and response.
- The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is the lead federal agency for incident investigation.
- The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is responsible for incident management.
- FEMA is the lead federal agency for consequence management in situations where a disaster or hazardous event exceeds local response capabilities. The mission of consequence management is to manage emergency response activities in order to ensure a quick and coordinated response to protect public health and safety, restore essential services, and provide emergency relief to all those affected by the consequences of a natural, man-made, or act-of-terrorism incident.
President Donald Trump approved the District of Columbia’s request for an Emergency Declaration on Jan. 11. This action allows FEMA to surge public safety resources and response teams to the District of Columbia in preparation for the inauguration. FEMA response teams are already in position at key locations throughout the National Capital Region and are prepared to support our public safety partners in any potential situations that may arise. Additionally, FEMA is deploying a national Incident Management Assistance Team to the area to support the agency's full-time staff who regularly coordinate, exercise and train with first responders and emergency managers in the Washington, D.C., metro area.
While FEMA does not operate in any law enforcement capacity, we are actively coordinating with our federal, state and local partners to ensure public safety throughout the 59th Presidential Inauguration. Our mission remains the same – helping people before, during and after disasters.
sjhenderson
Senior Member
I don't think the Guard members think they are intimidating anyone, I feel the PTB have them there more for optics and intimidation though.
pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
59th prez?
Did I oversleep?
Did I oversleep?
marsh
On TB every waking moment
twern't coffee in the Navy unless you could stand a spoon in it.
marsh
On TB every waking moment
Last time I saw the "My Pillow guy" he was in Megan's Medicine cabinet, then her bedroom, where he adjusted her down pillow and her hubby's foam pillow...
Old Gray Mare
TB Fanatic
Earlier in the thread it was posted the brass at the NG are refusing all donations due to "logistics".
BUBBAHOTEPT
Veteran Member
This whole thing stinks. Yeah, we’ve all slept on the ground, in ditch, in the rain, etc., but something doesn’t fit with: you will defend the capitol and sleep on marble floors like your at the Alamo. Come on people, something is just not right.
Then again, you have an inauguration of the most popular president ever, with more votes than anyone in the world, and you have locked down DC - built fences and walls - surrounding the place with 30,000 troops? In addition, no one is invited after a free and fair election to attend? Talk about OPTICS!
But hell I don’t know nothing. I prove that everyday, but I didn’t fall off the turnip truck yesterday either...
Then again, you have an inauguration of the most popular president ever, with more votes than anyone in the world, and you have locked down DC - built fences and walls - surrounding the place with 30,000 troops? In addition, no one is invited after a free and fair election to attend? Talk about OPTICS!
But hell I don’t know nothing. I prove that everyday, but I didn’t fall off the turnip truck yesterday either...
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Not involved with this at all, but I was in the National Guard for 10 years. A lot of people on this site seem to think that makes me a complete moron, but the fact remains when I joined it was to help the USA. So a little note: if you are someone that has never joined the military forces either reserve or active then please STFU. If you are someone that was active duty and thinks the NG is completely useless then that is your prerogative, but not everyone in the NG is a complete waste of space.
TammyinWI
Talk is cheap
Yep, they want them angry, all right. The deep state wants to make use of a good crisis, and they do not care about the guard troops either. Being used to fulfill an evil agenda.
The deep state hates us all.
That 5G tower will put the tempers over the edge when that is powered up. Is there now more than that one put up on the national mall?
Betcha dollars to doughnuts every state capitol puts one or more of those 5G-type towers up, and watch the tempers flare. If so, the snowflakes and other lemmings will think and tell each other, "Oh look, they want us to have fast internet!"
I remember a few years ago (OK, OK, a few decades ago) when I was a ROTC cadet, the National Guard unit I was assigned to had a ceremony to kick off the new armory's construction. They needed people to stay overnight and secure the equipment. The only problem is, nobody arranged for dinner, not even C-rats. One of the guys got the idea and got the local Hardees to donate food for us. And, of course, there was no breakfast either. So all of us who volunteered our time went to Hardees and bought our own breakfast before working the rest of the day doing what needed to be done for the new armory groundbreaking.
Sid Vicious
Veteran Member
When did they allow midgets into the guard? 
Chicken Mama
Veteran Member
Chicken Mama
Veteran Member
Not sure how this applies to the current situation or has anything to do with NG housing or OP.
AlfaMan
TB Fanatic
59th inaugural.
AlfaMan
TB Fanatic
Under DHS, FEMA is logistics and incident/consequence management. IE they should be the agency providing the NG troops with either a place to stay, or at the very minimum meals and bedding. They aren't.
That's how it applies.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Yeah, some of em got sworn in 2-3 times...(FDR)
Thomas Paine
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yeah, my experience as a light infantryman was about 20% of company grade officers were tools, 60% were satisfactory and 20% were contenders ( something special).
pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
Gimpywarrior
Contributing Member
Slept in a lot worse places over the years. They never promised a feather bed or gourmet food.