Is THIS the face you want to see coming to you from the WH every day?
- Thread starter Dennis Olson
- Start date
The Flying Dutchman
Deceased
=
Has every one gone completely NUTS?
I know that in the past; every time things in the meat world were "ON THE CUSP" just before TSHTF! Every time there has been some of the membership go BONKERS!
BUT NOT TO THE DEPTH I AM SEEING ON THIS THREAD!
TFD
Get it settled in your mind folks; the $][it is about to hit the fan! THIS IS FOR REAL.
GREAT SCOTT!
And even you Dennis! I know of only one other time you were determined not to hear "another's side to an disagreement; in the manner you are doing so now.
GOOD LORD!
Has every one gone completely NUTS?
I know that in the past; every time things in the meat world were "ON THE CUSP" just before TSHTF! Every time there has been some of the membership go BONKERS!
BUT NOT TO THE DEPTH I AM SEEING ON THIS THREAD!
TFD
Get it settled in your mind folks; the $][it is about to hit the fan! THIS IS FOR REAL.
GREAT SCOTT!
And even you Dennis! I know of only one other time you were determined not to hear "another's side to an disagreement; in the manner you are doing so now.
There IS no "other side" to this. Whether the Anointed One or RomTorGrich wins, we WILL go down this time. And anyone who's not completely brain-dead knows this. THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO DISCUSS.
Beelbill
Inactive
+1000
Dex
Constitutional Patriot
Dennis,
What is the realistic alternative? I honestly don't know. If Ron Paul can't get in there somehow, I don't see what other choices we have. It would seem almost anything would be better than out current Comrade Zero.
Bottom line, we are going to get who they want to give us, not much choice in the matter.
I no longer believe in free and honest elections in our country, everything is contrived, everything is planned, we are not in control of our future or our government. To believe otherwise, IMHO is delusional.
The best thing to do is just accept that evil in high places is ruling this country and this planet and prepare your mind and everything else for what comes after that.
I know it's sad and cynical but regardless of what the masses think, it's true. Big Brother has been here for a long time, there is not a whole lot that can change that, short of Revolution, it's going to take a physical and very likely violent paradigm shift to change the course of the future and save the world from de facto slavery.
But then again, maybe King Arthur will show up to join the king and the land as one again...
What is the realistic alternative? I honestly don't know. If Ron Paul can't get in there somehow, I don't see what other choices we have. It would seem almost anything would be better than out current Comrade Zero.
Bottom line, we are going to get who they want to give us, not much choice in the matter.
I no longer believe in free and honest elections in our country, everything is contrived, everything is planned, we are not in control of our future or our government. To believe otherwise, IMHO is delusional.
The best thing to do is just accept that evil in high places is ruling this country and this planet and prepare your mind and everything else for what comes after that.
I know it's sad and cynical but regardless of what the masses think, it's true. Big Brother has been here for a long time, there is not a whole lot that can change that, short of Revolution, it's going to take a physical and very likely violent paradigm shift to change the course of the future and save the world from de facto slavery.
But then again, maybe King Arthur will show up to join the king and the land as one again...
peetar
Inactive
This sounds like a threat , Dennis. I don't think this is accurate considering the fact that you have no idea how any other person has voted for their "entire life"
Furthermore blaming a poster for the ails and problems of this nation makes you sound like an Obama style fascist.
No big deal though. Freedom of speech and all that. Plus it's your site which makes it sound even more like a threat.
I don't think that the posters here need to be bullied or bludgeoned simply because you own this site.
I am not sure if you know how these internets work but when you state things like this, there can be a backlash. Let's just try to keep this from happening.
This thread is probably going to be another amazing argument. I can't wait to see who is banned from the site this time. Probably me. /whogivesadamn.
Well, then. I guess we can just close this thread and call it good, huh? Nothing to see here. There "is no other side" to this argument, Dennis.
Move along now "brain-dead" members and financiers and contributors to the site... THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO DISCUSS.
/OBAMA/STALIN/WHOEVER...
I call bullshit.
Last edited:
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
The system is rigged by TPTB making the choices of your candidates. Once that selection has been made, they could not care less about the election itself. The whole election process is nothing but bread and circuses for the masses.
Think about it:
Notice, that anytime the party that was split by a similar party D/Green, R/Reform, they lost. It's called splitting the vote. If you vote in a split election, and you are voting for the "odd man out", and he/she is on the same side as "the candidate of less evil", you are only guaranteeing that neither the "odd man out" NOR the "less evil" candidate will win.
TPTB don't care a whit about who wins the election in the above races. They just don't want a CHOICE up on the ballots that runs uncontested against one of their choices. That is why they would NEVER allow a simple ballot with just Ron Paul versus Obama. They don't care if Obama wins or not. They don't care if Romney wins or not. BOTH of those two are the same.
There is no voting for the lesser of two evils. The only thing you are voting on is the flavor of the kool-aid that each evil brings to the table.
Loup
Think about it:
Code:
Race Year Winner The ones that didn't win
51st 1988 George H. W. Bush (R) – 426 Michael Dukakis (D ) – 111
52nd 1992 Bill Clinton (D) – 370 George H. W. Bush (R) – 168
Ross Perot (no party) – 0
53rd 1996 Bill Clinton (D) – 379 Bob Dole (R) – 159
Ross Perot (Reform) – 0
54th 2000 George W. Bush (R) – 271 AlGore (D) – 266
Ralph Nader (Green) – 0
55th 2004 George W. Bush (R) – 286 John Kerry (D) – 251
56th 2008 Barack Obama (D) – 365 John McCain (R) – 173Notice, that anytime the party that was split by a similar party D/Green, R/Reform, they lost. It's called splitting the vote. If you vote in a split election, and you are voting for the "odd man out", and he/she is on the same side as "the candidate of less evil", you are only guaranteeing that neither the "odd man out" NOR the "less evil" candidate will win.
TPTB don't care a whit about who wins the election in the above races. They just don't want a CHOICE up on the ballots that runs uncontested against one of their choices. That is why they would NEVER allow a simple ballot with just Ron Paul versus Obama. They don't care if Obama wins or not. They don't care if Romney wins or not. BOTH of those two are the same.
There is no voting for the lesser of two evils. The only thing you are voting on is the flavor of the kool-aid that each evil brings to the table.
Loup
Jeesh Loup, even you??
Your logic was going good but fell apart in the last and second to last sentence.
All polls show that Ron Paul would lose in a head to head match up against Obama.
Face it, the country isn't ready for a libertarian candidate yet. Maybe in another 2 or 3 election cycles, but the crash is coming before that.
Your only mistake is that there are 3 flavors of KoolAid not 2.
Obama - foot on the gas as we drive over the cliff
Romney- foot tapping the brake so we don't lose control as we drive over the cliff
Ron Paul- foot on the brake, but Congress cut the brake line, as we drive over the cliff
NET RESULT - WE ARE GOING OVER THE CLIFF
Best be checking out your parachute
Your logic was going good but fell apart in the last and second to last sentence.
All polls show that Ron Paul would lose in a head to head match up against Obama.
Face it, the country isn't ready for a libertarian candidate yet. Maybe in another 2 or 3 election cycles, but the crash is coming before that.
Your only mistake is that there are 3 flavors of KoolAid not 2.
Obama - foot on the gas as we drive over the cliff
Romney- foot tapping the brake so we don't lose control as we drive over the cliff
Ron Paul- foot on the brake, but Congress cut the brake line, as we drive over the cliff
NET RESULT - WE ARE GOING OVER THE CLIFF
Best be checking out your parachute
And, if Romney gets in and does the same things and WORSE, it should be on your conscience. Actually bad Republican presidents get away with many more laws taking away our freedom. Look at George W. Bush and the Patriot Act, the TSA, etc. Had a Democrat tried to do it, would have been major outcry from the Republicans.
If Ron Paul does not get the Republican nomination, and most likely he won't, why not everybody vote for Constitution Party candidate if they put up a good one. Neither Republican, nor Democratic partes represent Americans anymore. We need to break the 2-party system. I admit though, it is probably too late. I too think the country is going down.
CapeCMom
Veteran Member
Look-if it makes anyone feel better....
Romney wasn't a bad governor-but he wasn't a great one either-he was just kind of there. He DID have an excellent Welfare reform program that really worked in the State until "Spend it all" Deval came in and reversed it. Compared to what is lurking in the White House right now? Dennis, let me assure you that Romney would be a much better choice....and no I did not vote for him in the Primary....He's really not a bad guy-he's just not a rock star. If he surrounds himself with the right people he will do just fine.
Romney wasn't a bad governor-but he wasn't a great one either-he was just kind of there. He DID have an excellent Welfare reform program that really worked in the State until "Spend it all" Deval came in and reversed it. Compared to what is lurking in the White House right now? Dennis, let me assure you that Romney would be a much better choice....and no I did not vote for him in the Primary....He's really not a bad guy-he's just not a rock star. If he surrounds himself with the right people he will do just fine.
undead
Veteran Member
not sure what the heck your comment is meant to say
my job in life the next 6 months is to shame the crap out of any fool who felt so "enlightened" as to vote for Barry the first time, and who they vote for otherwise I really don't care - no repeat votes going to the cockroach asswipe
Last edited:
MDINMT
Veteran Member
You're reading the wrong polls then.
Old Reliable
Veteran Member
Anyone but Obama.
Jubilation T. Cornpone
Veteran Member
GOD HELP US
Our Fearless leader will have direct contact
with the Angel Moroni
via Interositer.
Our Fearless leader will have direct contact
with the Angel Moroni
via Interositer.
bbkaren
Veteran Member
Hate all you want, I'm voting for Paul.
Those who acknowledge that he's the best candidate but "can't win so I'll vote for whomever THEY choose for me", are the hypocrites, IMO.
Each one of you who believes in RP's message, but withholds YOUR vote, is responsible for contributing to Obama's 2nd term.
Not me, sorry. I'll be voting for the Constitution; the rest of you can vote for a puppet because "he can win." I hope you feel good about that.
And in the end, all this infighting is for nothing because the collapse is coming no matter who's in charge; the difference is, who will be in charge to build us back up the RIGHT WAY?
Those who acknowledge that he's the best candidate but "can't win so I'll vote for whomever THEY choose for me", are the hypocrites, IMO.
Each one of you who believes in RP's message, but withholds YOUR vote, is responsible for contributing to Obama's 2nd term.
Not me, sorry. I'll be voting for the Constitution; the rest of you can vote for a puppet because "he can win." I hope you feel good about that.
And in the end, all this infighting is for nothing because the collapse is coming no matter who's in charge; the difference is, who will be in charge to build us back up the RIGHT WAY?
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
I don't look at things short term, at least not before I look at things LONG term. I understand that Ron Paul is going to be next to impossible to get in as President (I do see the possibility as VP though).
Think about the lineup that we had, and the choice of presidents back during the first Great Depression...
Woodrow Wilson (D) 1913-1921 This is the complete idiot that allowed the Fed Res to happen
...
Herbert Hoover (R (Progressive)) 1929-1933 This progressive ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover#Policies ) RINO did the exact same thing that Obamanation is doing now. (From that same page: When the Wall Street Crash of 1929 struck less than eight months after he took office, Hoover tried to combat the ensuing Great Depression with volunteer efforts, public works projects such as the Hoover Dam, tariffs such as the Smoot-Hawley Tariff, an increase in the top tax bracket from 25% to 63%, and increases in corporate taxes. These initiatives did not produce economic recovery during his term, but served as the groundwork for various policies laid out in Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal. )
Franklin D. Roosevelt (FREEKIN' RAT B@$T@RD SOCIALIST) 1933-1945 <--Note, 12 years of hell. He DELIBERATELY kept the Great Depression going for as long as he could, knowing that as long as people are in pain, they will be willing to give up freedoms for temporary, local anesthesia.
Harry S. Truman (R) 1945-1953 This man, thanks to WWII, is the one that broke the Great Depression, mainly by getting our MANUFACTURING back up and running in this country.
Here is what I am thinking. Which one would you rather have in the presidents seat AFTER our economy crashes (because we all know that it will crash, the Fed Res guaranteed that a century ago):
Obamanation = Wilson + Hoover + FDR
Romney = FDR
Ron Paul = Truman
Oh, I get that. But I'm not looking at a president for now, but after the crash.
Here's the point I am trying to make:
As you said, we are GOING to crash. The issue is that for every DAY that we try to keep this car on the road, we are just making the end result that much more painful (and TPTB know this and are hoping to keep it going for as long as possible, that way getting the last drop of wealth out of people's hands. You can't make citizens into serfs if they still have wealth). We SHOULD have crashed back in the 90s, or even earlier. But the progressives didn't want to make it happen then, and let a LOT of people come through with their land, homes, and wealth still partially intact. They wanted to make SURE that as many as possible were destitute. They tried all of this back during the first Great Depression, but failed because they didn't string us along long enough before the crash, and couldn't get the crash deep enough, or wide enough to crush everybody back then.
This time, they have made sure that it is a LOT wider, and a lot deeper.
I know that we are going over the cliff, guaranteed. That was evident to me back in the 1980s. It doesn't take a rocket scientologist to figure out that you can't pay back P+I if you are having to BORROW all of "P". Ron Paul may be trying to press the brakes, with the lines cut. We are doing nothing but climbing up the debt mountain, and doing it exponentially. What he should be doing is floor the accelerator and steer hard for the edge. The sooner we get this over with, the less the damage will be since we won't be going UP the debt mountain anymore, gaining altitude exponentially, and doing nothing but guaranteeing more pain, suffering, and loss of wealth.
Loup
Paul cannot win, that is the reality of where we stand. And it isn't because of some conspiracy, it's because he doesn't have the popular support to win over the opposing candidate. Any plan that does not take reality into account is simply stupid, and no amount of frothing at the mouth over it is going to change that.
Romney is not my first choice for POTUS, but anyone who thinks that he would not be better for the US than Obama is not paying attention.
Karen, to call you out on the post above, casting a vote for RP is what will contribute to an Obama 2nd term. It is a fact that he cannot win, for the same reason that Obama got elected in the first place. Now you can cling to your moral highground all you want, and talk about how "the rest of us vote for a puppet", but if your plan is to write in a vote for RP then you have your head in the sand. Again, when your plan does not account for reality, it isn't much of a plan. Sure, you might feel smug about how "you" did the right thing...but at the end of the day, did you really help anyone other than yourself?
The battle is won and lost before the votes are cast, and that is the time and place to make a conscientious stand. Throwing away an important vote so you can feel smug just doesn't help.
Romney is not my first choice for POTUS, but anyone who thinks that he would not be better for the US than Obama is not paying attention.
Karen, to call you out on the post above, casting a vote for RP is what will contribute to an Obama 2nd term. It is a fact that he cannot win, for the same reason that Obama got elected in the first place. Now you can cling to your moral highground all you want, and talk about how "the rest of us vote for a puppet", but if your plan is to write in a vote for RP then you have your head in the sand. Again, when your plan does not account for reality, it isn't much of a plan. Sure, you might feel smug about how "you" did the right thing...but at the end of the day, did you really help anyone other than yourself?
The battle is won and lost before the votes are cast, and that is the time and place to make a conscientious stand. Throwing away an important vote so you can feel smug just doesn't help.
rhughe13
Heart of Dixie
To those that said our country would never survive 4 years of Obama. Unfortunately we are all still here and only have 9 months left.
There's no use in extending the "Anyone but Obama fear" for 4 more years, if your first revelation didn't come to pass.
Jump the rhetoric and do something right for a change.
There's no use in extending the "Anyone but Obama fear" for 4 more years, if your first revelation didn't come to pass.
Jump the rhetoric and do something right for a change.
undead
Veteran Member
apparently you think we've survived these first years of Obama
uh huh, I think you need to wake up as to what's happening
.
"Paul Cannot win" is the held belief of the SHEEP because the MSM tell them so. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because the SHEEP, way deep down, WANT to believe the MSM...
rhughe13
Heart of Dixie
Well my IT career crashed under Bush/Clinton/Bush. I've been living with my head barely above water for 10 years, so nothing much has changed for me.
I have no stock, no retirement, no insurance. That was gone 10 years ago.
I got my wake up call before y2k watching the crash coming. It's the late comers and "tomorrow only" people, that get old with what's going on in America. Thinking anybody but Obama is going to solve what is coming.
I don't need a wake up call, I just need the best seat to watch.
Jeff Allen
Producer
Dennis is 100% correct on this issue!!!!
A Republic cannot stand without a Constitution.
Our constitution has been slowly destroyed since April 9th, 1865. Several transformative events have followed to remove D.C. from the map and replace it with Mordor.
1913
That traitor FDR and all his evil
Johnson's "great" society...you know, the idea that destroyed our essence?
Follow that up with the AMAZING unconstitutional stands that D's AND R's love these days....
No, the Republic was lost at some point in the past. Either vote to restore the Republic, or vote for your evil. Your children and grandchildren will see the hell of another civil war, for that is the only possible way to restore the Republic at this point I can see. Better to die on our feet than our knees methinks...
J
A Republic cannot stand without a Constitution.
Our constitution has been slowly destroyed since April 9th, 1865. Several transformative events have followed to remove D.C. from the map and replace it with Mordor.
1913
That traitor FDR and all his evil
Johnson's "great" society...you know, the idea that destroyed our essence?
Follow that up with the AMAZING unconstitutional stands that D's AND R's love these days....
No, the Republic was lost at some point in the past. Either vote to restore the Republic, or vote for your evil. Your children and grandchildren will see the hell of another civil war, for that is the only possible way to restore the Republic at this point I can see. Better to die on our feet than our knees methinks...
J
CapeCMom
Veteran Member
I voted for Ron Paul in the Primary....he has not done well enough to garner the nomination in other States as well....unless we have another way of nominating our candidates, Ron Paul will not be the nominee. It breaks my heart to say it-I'm not being a sheep for saying it-The only way that he would ever get the nomination at this point is through a brokered convention-which the Republicans may have but TPTB will not choose him over other candidates....how is this being sheep like?
We are faced now with some hard choices-no matter how we may want to bitch and moan that our beloved Uncle Ron did not do better. Keep the status quo and spiral down the man hole cover of doom with Obama or choose the Republican candidate-which we all know at this point will be Romney. Case closed-you choose-but if Obama wins because of a poor voter turnout, I don't want any of you guys complaining about the Socialist Marxcist dictator getting back in and how we are all doomed. You choose to sit this one out, you live with the consequences.
We are faced now with some hard choices-no matter how we may want to bitch and moan that our beloved Uncle Ron did not do better. Keep the status quo and spiral down the man hole cover of doom with Obama or choose the Republican candidate-which we all know at this point will be Romney. Case closed-you choose-but if Obama wins because of a poor voter turnout, I don't want any of you guys complaining about the Socialist Marxcist dictator getting back in and how we are all doomed. You choose to sit this one out, you live with the consequences.
I would commend anyone who stands up for their values and liberty and goes to bat for an individual politician that best represents their interests. However, your vote is important and you should use it to steer the political compass in YOUR direction as best you can. It should always be a strategic decision and not an emotional one according to how your system works.
The time to stand firm for Ron Paul is now, through the Republican primaries. This is the way to at least influence party politics and platform. Ron Paul's presence and message is enough to influence the discussion. And that, imo, is a good thing. The popular support even withing the Republican party though is not quite there for Mr. Paul to win the leadership bid. If you can't convince conservatives to go for your man how will you sway centrists and the left? So i clearly understand those who are frustrated with talk of throwing away votes, or voting R. Paul in anyway even if not on the ticket - it is throwing your vote away and more of a protest vote - it is not strategic but may make you feel good, except the winner might make you feel even worse.
Now, if Ron Paul were to run as an independent then that imho is a different situation and he should be given supporters full support. For even if he has little chance of winning his message and politics will be still given weight and consideration by the electorate, and will steer the discussion in that direction. To me its all about the political compass and steering it in the right direction.
But at the end of the day, a protest vote is a protest vote that may well be wasted and you miss your chance at steering the ship in the right direction. If America ever gets to a three or four party situation with the right and left splitting into different parts of the spectrum then this idea of steering the ship and strategic voting becomes even more important. Some parliamentary democracies with multiple parties are certainly that way.
The time to stand firm for Ron Paul is now, through the Republican primaries. This is the way to at least influence party politics and platform. Ron Paul's presence and message is enough to influence the discussion. And that, imo, is a good thing. The popular support even withing the Republican party though is not quite there for Mr. Paul to win the leadership bid. If you can't convince conservatives to go for your man how will you sway centrists and the left? So i clearly understand those who are frustrated with talk of throwing away votes, or voting R. Paul in anyway even if not on the ticket - it is throwing your vote away and more of a protest vote - it is not strategic but may make you feel good, except the winner might make you feel even worse.
Now, if Ron Paul were to run as an independent then that imho is a different situation and he should be given supporters full support. For even if he has little chance of winning his message and politics will be still given weight and consideration by the electorate, and will steer the discussion in that direction. To me its all about the political compass and steering it in the right direction.
But at the end of the day, a protest vote is a protest vote that may well be wasted and you miss your chance at steering the ship in the right direction. If America ever gets to a three or four party situation with the right and left splitting into different parts of the spectrum then this idea of steering the ship and strategic voting becomes even more important. Some parliamentary democracies with multiple parties are certainly that way.
dimensiondancer
Inactive
Not directed at you. Directed at those that think voting for Paul will make everthing in their life rosey as rainbows although it accomplishes nothing other than self gratification.
I want national gratification of Obama the Kenyan gone for good!
No matter what we have to do to get that done. I'd vote for anyother clown except Obama.
I think they are all clowns, but Obama is the most evil of all.
mt4design
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I want to give props to CM for the passion and the logic behind their posts.
I'd like to add that Obama isn't the only problem.
Congress, the leftist hoard that follows and supports and covers Obama's rear, is also a problem.
So, what we need is to buy time and getting Obama out along with his loving minions of evil is the goal.
We can't and we will not solve all issues with this one election.
It's a start.
Get the ball rolling by rolling the thug out of the people's house.
Push the ball along by voting out his evil minions in congress and the senate.
Pull the power away from Reid and Pelosi and their twisted view.
Buy time.
We are buying time in order to try to change the present course and secure liberty NOT FOR US BUT FOR OUR POSTERITY (peacefully, within the system) while we are buying time in order to form ranks and formulate plans to stand our ground.
There is the left and then there is the extreme left and right now, the extreme left has the momentum, a hold on the press, a hold on the courts, and a finger on the button.
Under Obama the likes of Bill Ayers, an admitted terrorist revolutionary and a hater of the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights, is only a phone call away. He's a regular on the WH guest list along with other communists and marxists and known leftist revolutionaries.
I can't continue to live with that reality.
There is a difference between Obama and someone like Romney.
Mike
I'd like to add that Obama isn't the only problem.
Congress, the leftist hoard that follows and supports and covers Obama's rear, is also a problem.
So, what we need is to buy time and getting Obama out along with his loving minions of evil is the goal.
We can't and we will not solve all issues with this one election.
It's a start.
Get the ball rolling by rolling the thug out of the people's house.
Push the ball along by voting out his evil minions in congress and the senate.
Pull the power away from Reid and Pelosi and their twisted view.
Buy time.
We are buying time in order to try to change the present course and secure liberty NOT FOR US BUT FOR OUR POSTERITY (peacefully, within the system) while we are buying time in order to form ranks and formulate plans to stand our ground.
There is the left and then there is the extreme left and right now, the extreme left has the momentum, a hold on the press, a hold on the courts, and a finger on the button.
Under Obama the likes of Bill Ayers, an admitted terrorist revolutionary and a hater of the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights, is only a phone call away. He's a regular on the WH guest list along with other communists and marxists and known leftist revolutionaries.
I can't continue to live with that reality.
There is a difference between Obama and someone like Romney.
Mike
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
I don't see Ron Paul getting in as a President on a ballot.
I do see the possibility of Ron Paul getting in as Vice President. THAT is our best hope at this moment.
Romney is slightly better than Obamanation. Romney, with Ron Paul as VP, has promise.
Having Romney as the Rino candidate at the polls in November with someone other than Ron Paul as VP, and having people still voting Ron Paul as president either as an independent, or as a write in, WILL GUARANTEE THAT OBAMANATION GETS TO STAY IN. We don't want that. If Ron Paul can't be the ONLY candidate opposing Obamanation, we don't want people voting for him as president AT ALL. Get him in as VP if we can.
Loup
I do see the possibility of Ron Paul getting in as Vice President. THAT is our best hope at this moment.
Romney is slightly better than Obamanation. Romney, with Ron Paul as VP, has promise.
Having Romney as the Rino candidate at the polls in November with someone other than Ron Paul as VP, and having people still voting Ron Paul as president either as an independent, or as a write in, WILL GUARANTEE THAT OBAMANATION GETS TO STAY IN. We don't want that. If Ron Paul can't be the ONLY candidate opposing Obamanation, we don't want people voting for him as president AT ALL. Get him in as VP if we can.
Loup
Agree.
Otherwise, we'll be seeing some version of this for sure.
Mike
mt4design,
Good sentiment, but there are photos on the 'Net that have The Usurper as Adolph Hitler, or Mussolini. He'd be a "good" Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Jossip Stalin, or Mao... Regardless of how the Usurper is shown, he IS evil incarnate...
OA, out...
This country is toast anyway - unless the American people reinstate the Republic/Constitution. We have a Fascist government (not Dem or Repub) and the corporate faction is destroying our economy/money supply, our food supply, our environment, our health, and our way of life. Chapman is talking about a military coup.
Romney is just another mindless puppet carrying on the destruction of America.
I’ve been out in the hayfields in the hot sun, dying of thirst, no news, no one to talk to but my ignorant self.
So I’ve got a question or two, (apologies for not joining in the RP love fest). Since RP would save us from the evil “crash” that is coming, could someone explain what this crash is all about and how the savior Paul will save us? If anyone is an “idiot” for voting for anyone but RP then what is the divine nature that makes him the savior? Oh, it must be his outstanding congress and policy accomplishments? Silly me, too much sun!
So I’ve got a question or two, (apologies for not joining in the RP love fest). Since RP would save us from the evil “crash” that is coming, could someone explain what this crash is all about and how the savior Paul will save us? If anyone is an “idiot” for voting for anyone but RP then what is the divine nature that makes him the savior? Oh, it must be his outstanding congress and policy accomplishments? Silly me, too much sun!
enigmaYmee
Contributing Member
^^^^THIS!
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
Ron Paul won't save us from the crash. The crash is guaranteed, and has been since the early 1900s if not much earlier. The crash WILL happen.
What we want is someone that will be more than willing to get us back up AFTER the crash, restore the Constitution, and get things back in their proper order as quickly as possible.
What we DON'T want, is Obama, Romney, or another Socialist, to get control of the US after the crash, and completely finish off the US and complete their change of the US into a third world socialists cesspool.
Obamanation is the worst choice. Romney is not that much better. Ron Paul would be the best bet if he was the only person running against Obamanation, but he isn't. Our best plan right now would be to get RP in there as VP, but I doubt that even that will be allowed.
The LAST thing we want is another FDR. Obamanation is a guaranteed FDR clone. Romney has a FDR bent, and would be sure to have some RINO (if not socialist) plans for our country if he could.
Loup