ALERT Heads UP! Reports from Twitter of Increased Military Aircraft Over CONUS

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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So they are looking for subs?
I understand how helos can dip sonar into the water and listen, but how do planes find subs?
Again, what do we do when we find one in international waters, or closer in?

Anybody near a THAAD or Patriot site around DC?
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
I thought Ray Potter had been outed as bigamist in his weird videos and discredited when he was filming on the run from the feds.
 

Suzieq

Veteran Member
I thought Ray Potter had been outed as bigamist in his weird videos and discredited when he was filming on the run from the feds.

His name is Roy Potter, not Ray Potter. Of course the Deep State tried to trash his image three years ago. I have been listening to him for around 5 years and he is on the up and up!
 

Suzieq

Veteran Member
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So how does Ray potter connect with military flight ops?

Roy Potter is a former US Army Officer, committed to the Perfect Law of Liberty and US Constitution. Roy has many contacts in the military and brings good Intel to the Independent News Media. Roy follows Scott Anthony's Twitter Feed for sometime now. Scott Anthony has been following military flight for a longtime. Roy lets the public know, when something is up and needs to bring it to people's attention.

When the Bundy situation was going down with the BLM, Roy Potter was out there reporting what was going on back then. The Feds were rounding up Cliven Bundy's cows and running them down with helicopters. Roy was out there reporting the situation. Remember when the Feds sent in snipers along the hills of the Bundy Ranch. Roy was out there reporting all of that, along with Pete Santilli. MSM was not reporting it, but these two men were!
 

Suzieq

Veteran Member
So they are looking for subs?
I understand how helos can dip sonar into the water and listen, but how do planes find subs?
Again, what do we do when we find one in international waters, or closer in?

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From what I read, our military AWACS planes are our first defense in detecting low flying enemy raiders and use direct interception towards them, if they become a threat. Enemy submarines can launch missiles, so when they detect a foreign county submarine near our shores, these AWACS planes have to be on high alert to monitor the situation.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
From what I read, our military AWACS planes are our first defense in detecting low flying enemy raiders and use direct interception towards them, if they become a threat. Enemy submarines can launch missiles, so when they detect a foreign county submarine near our shores, these AWACS planes have to be on high alert to monitor the situation.

Where to start.....

nice shot of a Rusky bomber, BTW.

1) Sub Hunters (P3 Orions) drop sonar receivers which they use to find subs (in answer to the question)
2) AWACS planes are used to vector in responding interceptors, and don't do actual direct interceptions.
3) IIRC AWACS platform has virtually no missile detection capabilities beyond gross radar interception.
 

onetimer

Veteran Member
Intel Crab
‏@IntelCrab
34m34 minutes ago

As @Surveillance911 has pointed out, there is an across the board increase in strategic aircraft up and airborne today. Unsure if this is related to the global theater or simply scheduled military exercises.

Also uptick in EAM broadcasts this morning.
 

Rayku

Sanity is not statistical
Thanks Rayku. I should have known better and left the professional ACRONYM’s to nightdriver. My bad on the Ground Penetrating Radar. LOL

Thanks for the link.

YW. The technologies are easy to get confused since they often compliment each other.
 

Chance

Veteran Member
Was talking to my brother about some of this info - he's retired Navy - a P3 pilot - the old sub chasers. He was stationed all over the world.

His P3 was involved in the search for that Korean Airlines passenger plane that was shot down by the Russians - he said during their search a Russian fighter jet locked on them - said his heart stopped, thought for sure they'd be shot down too.

He said they dropped sonobuoys into the ocean and listened, via pings, when they were searching for subs. He said the helicopters, lower the Sonobuoys via a cable and hover and listen.

Just some interesting info.
 
Was talking to my brother about some of this info - he's retired Navy - a P3 pilot - the old sub chasers. He was stationed all over the world.

His P3 was involved in the search for that Korean Airlines passenger plane that was shot down by the Russians - he said during their search a Russian fighter jet locked on them - said his heart stopped, thought for sure they'd be shot down too.

He said they dropped sonobuoys into the ocean and listened, via pings, when they were searching for subs. He said the helicopters, lower the Sonobuoys via a cable and hover and listen.

Just some interesting info.

Thanks
For clearing that up, but we still have the elephant in th room.
At our current not-at-war status, what are we going to do when we find one?
Sink it now, or wait until the missile doors open?
 

FarmerJohn

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If we start hearing a lot of sonic booms all of a sudden then something surely is afoot!

I have not heard any here in Maine, but we have the chem trail fleet going over frequently, and there is quite a swarm of them. They were spraying us pretty heavily over the weekend.

Were the lines parallel to those of normal traffic? If so, probably just regular traffic but with different moisture levels at altitude.
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Thanks
For clearing that up, but we still have the elephant in th room.
At our current not-at-war status, what are we going to do when we find one?
Sink it now, or wait until the missile doors open?

Breathe.

Russian subs, "trawlers" (Spy ships) etc. have been just outside the 12 mile limit for as long as they've had subs and "trawlers" to send over. Remember when we had a space program? Well, there were always Russian "fishing" boats just outside the 12 mile limit to collect data on our space launches. I imagine that they still do. We do the same thing. We send planes and ships and everything else to spy on them and other counties of which we have an intelligence interest. It's just the way of the world. Let's hope it stays a "friendly" game of I, Spy.
 

Chance

Veteran Member
Thanks
For clearing that up, but we still have the elephant in th room.
At our current not-at-war status, what are we going to do when we find one?
Sink it now, or wait until the missile doors open?

More info from my brother.

These sub chasers aren't just monitors of foreign subs - they can take them out. (I'm learning alot about this.)

So basically, if I've followed all of this right, they locate an enemy sub - the enemy sub would ping to get a target so they can lock on to it; we are able to tell when an enemy sub has locked on a target or activated their firing system (opened a missile or torpedo door) - we can tell by sounds detected by the sonobuoys; so pings can tell us when they are locked on a target and are opening missile/torpedo doors - that means they are working on a firing solution. Then if either or both is detected we can take them out as it means they are getting ready to fire; P3s can take them out with torpedoes or B57 nuclear depth charge (nuclear depth charge can take out sub by just being in the general area of the sub).

Boomers are missile subs (ICBMs/nuclear) that also have torpedoes (vs attack subs, smaller and with torpedoes) - whole back end of sub is launch area (he said these subs are really big) - can launch missiles directly up out of the submarine from under the water - the missile ignites when it breaks the surface and then off it goes.

My brother said if they pinged and picked up an enemy sub that was locked on a target - they would take it out immediately. Or if they detected it had opened it's doors - they would take it out immediately. That was their orders. Which makes sense.

He also said he'd expect a lot of air support if an enemy sub was detected - I assume he means by our coast lines. ? Edited to add this because of Alfaman's #97 post.

Of course, they'd have to find the sub first. He said this info is not classified - we could goggle this.
 
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Don Quixote

To dream the impossible dream...
Were the lines parallel to those of normal traffic? If so, probably just regular traffic but with different moisture levels at altitude.

I don't have that flight tracker app so don't know if we are under a regular commercial route or not, but won't see much traffic for several days, then all of a sudden the "fleet" goes over flying parallel courses, almost in a loose formation one after another - about 15 min. apart sometimes - usually from NE to SW laying down thick plumes from one horizon to the other which spread out and often have curtains of hairy, cirrus type tendrils descending from them.
Now and then they will criss-cross or curve around as if they are not going anywhere in particular.
Now and then a smaller jet leaving a short, dissipating CONtrail will be following a mile or two behind and a little off to one side of the tanker as if keeping track of them.

My reason for mentioning this was to possibly explain a high concentration of mil air if they were laying the fairy dust to us on a widespread basis.
Such a variety of aircraft involved defies the chemtrail theory however, as I've only seen 4- engine 747 type jets spraying us from about 25 - 30K ft. up. Hard to tell at that altitude and I'm really rusty of avian ID.
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
We find it with MAD (magnetic anomaly detectors and sonobouys launched from the plane that "ping" the water for the sub. If it's located the sonobouy relays back to the patrol plane the depth and range from the sonobouy. They also match the "sounds" the sub make against a pre loaded library of sub sound "signatures" to determine type of sub and type of potential threat being faced. Submarines can also be tracked by satellite, looking for variations in the wave patterns on the ocean (which is an amazing piece of software work).

If we find one in territorial waters, we "ask nicely" for the sub to leave those waters-planes and ships would also be vectored to the area of the enemy sub to increase pressure on the sub to leave if "asking nice-nice" doesn't work.

If we do find a sub in open water what do we do about it?
How about if we find it in our territorial water?
When do we actually sink it?
Do we send an attack sub to aggressively track it and encourage it to leave?
Or stealth track it until it makes noise like opening missile doors?
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Actually, the FAA radars around the country are one of the first defenses, along with over the horizon backscatter (OTH-B) radars at Beale AFB, CA and I think Otis AFS, MA. Nearly every airplane on the planet has a transponder (it transmits a specific code) and FAA radars track the planes. If a bunch of heavy movers hit US airspace with no transponder "squawk" code (also, where the planes come from-high altitude airspace over the US=over 18,000 feet is directed through "V-ways". V Ways are like aircraft freeways in the sky-planes follow the V routes.)

If you have a bomber like the TU-26 Backfire pictured coming in over the coast of Alaska from the west, it will drop to 150 feet the minute it hits the coast. On the FAA radar the plane will show as unidentified (no transponder squawk code) and then drops off the radars. That's enough to get NORAD interested, they will send up fighters to intercept it. Fighters will scramble with info regarding last known position and expected flight track. Once the interceptors find the plane, they will attempt to communicate with it using radios. There are internationally recognized codes and actions to try and communicate. Say the Backfire has no radio, and no operable nav equipment. If its genuinely in trouble there are internationally recognized flare signals as well as hand signals-5 fingers stuck out to the left indicated 5000 pounds of fuel on board, etc. The interceptors will attempt to turn the plane around by "herding" it like a cowboy does a cow on the range. Close flying, forming on the side and motioning where to go etc. If the interceptors want the plane to come down, the interceptor will lower its landing gear and motion/signal for the plane to follow it-the bomber, if in trouble will also lower its gear and reduce speed and follow.
However, if the Backfire bomber shoots at the interceptor aircraft when they close up to the plane (the Backfire has 2 23mm cannon in the tail in a radar controlled turret), then the interceptors will back off and increase altitude, get approval and either use a missile or guns to down the plane.

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From what I read, our military AWACS planes are our first defense in detecting low flying enemy raiders and use direct interception towards them, if they become a threat. Enemy submarines can launch missiles, so when they detect a foreign county submarine near our shores, these AWACS planes have to be on high alert to monitor the situation.
 

Suzieq

Veteran Member
More info from my brother.

These sub chasers aren't just monitors of foreign subs - they can take them out. (I'm learning alot about this.)

So basically, if I've followed all of this right, they locate an enemy sub - the enemy sub would ping to get a target so they can lock on to it; we are able to tell when an enemy sub has locked on a target or activated their firing system (opened a missile or torpedo door) - we can tell by sounds detected by the sonobuoys; so pings can tell us when they are locked on a target and are opening missile/torpedo doors - that means they are working on a firing solution. Then if either or both is detected we can take them out as it means they are getting ready to fire; P3s can take them out with torpedoes or B57 nuclear depth charge (nuclear depth charge can take out sub by just being in the general area of the sub).

Boomers are missile subs (ICBMs/nuclear) that also have torpedoes (vs attack subs, smaller and with torpedoes) - whole back end of sub is launch area (he said these subs are really big) - can launch missiles directly up out of the submarine from under the water - the missile ignites when it breaks the surface and then off it goes.

My brother said if they pinged and picked up an enemy sub that was locked on a target - they would take it out immediately. Or if they detected it had opened it's doors - they would take it out immediately. That was their orders. Which makes sense.

He also said he'd expect a lot of air support if an enemy sub was detected - I assume he means by our coast lines. ? Edited to add this because of Alfaman's #97 post.

Of course, they'd have to find the sub first. He said this info is not classified - we could goggle this.
Thanks to your brother for all the information.
 

Suzieq

Veteran Member
Actually, the FAA radars around the country are one of the first defenses, along with over the horizon backscatter (OTH-B) radars at Beale AFB, CA and I think Otis AFS, MA. Nearly every airplane on the planet has a transponder (it transmits a specific code) and FAA radars track the planes. If a bunch of heavy movers hit US airspace with no transponder "squawk" code (also, where the planes come from-high altitude airspace over the US=over 18,000 feet is directed through "V-ways". V Ways are like aircraft freeways in the sky-planes follow the V routes.)

If you have a bomber like the TU-26 Backfire pictured coming in over the coast of Alaska from the west, it will drop to 150 feet the minute it hits the coast. On the FAA radar the plane will show as unidentified (no transponder squawk code) and then drops off the radars. That's enough to get NORAD interested, they will send up fighters to intercept it. Fighters will scramble with info regarding last known position and expected flight track. Once the interceptors find the plane, they will attempt to communicate with it using radios. There are internationally recognized codes and actions to try and communicate. Say the Backfire has no radio, and no operable nav equipment. If its genuinely in trouble there are internationally recognized flare signals as well as hand signals-5 fingers stuck out to the left indicated 5000 pounds of fuel on board, etc. The interceptors will attempt to turn the plane around by "herding" it like a cowboy does a cow on the range. Close flying, forming on the side and motioning where to go etc. If the interceptors want the plane to come down, the interceptor will lower its landing gear and motion/signal for the plane to follow it-the bomber, if in trouble will also lower its gear and reduce speed and follow.
However, if the Backfire bomber shoots at the interceptor aircraft when they close up to the plane (the Backfire has 2 23mm cannon in the tail in a radar controlled turret), then the interceptors will back off and increase altitude, get approval and either use a missile or guns to down the plane.
Very good information. Thanks!
 

Suzieq

Veteran Member
FYI - From Twitter under Scott Anthony Twitter Feed:

From Santos Baca 1/20/18 @ 12:51AM
"Let me make this clear patriots. I work near Kirtland Air Force base here in Albuquerque and the last few days there have been a huge military Air craft build up like I’ve never seen before."
 

Suzieq

Veteran Member
Letter from Scott Anthony

Fox 3 / Red October: The Reason For Monitoring The Skies
January 20, 2018

For those who follow my twitter account, many will notice in between the usual political banter back and forth, the memes and the rhetoric in support of our President, Donald Trump, there is also frequently the monitoring of aircraft in various manners. This can range from broadcasting a simple Squawk7700 (aircraft having a general emergency) to following military aircraft during their operations. Many have asked the question "WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? HELP!!"

Hopefully this article explains the purpose behind what is happening on my timeline. This may take a little bit of reading, but at the end, you should walk away with more knowledge than the average "sheep" that is blissfully sleeping and unaware of the evils that surround us daily.

A STEP BACK (NOVEMBER 2017-JANUARY 5, 2018)

(Lt. Colonel Royston Potter Provides An
Excellent Historical Breakdown of Current Day)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=400&v=qttIYzqmNr8
Duration: 40:04

To understand what is happening now, we need to step back and recall a few comments by then-candidate Hillary Clinton, who during her campaign made a clear point to bring up a "first-strike" scenario where the President MUST be ready to use the nuclear forces the United States possesses in its arsenal; basically accusing President Trump that he would not, and that Hillary Clinton herself was in fact a WAR HAWK ready to send the planet into a nuclear armageddon.

Nancy Pelosi, Democrat House Minority Leader, brought up during a press conference that she stood behind the candidate Hillary Clinton who believed in the use of nuclear weapons as a "first strike contingency." "I believe if we are to move forward with its about all presidents, be it he or she, no matter who it is as we move down the road." This shows the collusion between the DNC and the then-candidate Hillary Clinton to stand behind a candidate that is ready to use nuclear weapons immediately. This is a reason to pause for concern as there are multiple ways to manage threats without the use of nuclear weapons.

In fact, Donald Trump has proven since his time in office, that there are in fact multiple ways to NOT use Nuclear Weapons; President Trump has shown amazing restraint with the situation in North Korea, as he has had the option to use nuclear weapons on any one of the multiple nuclear ICBM tests, the multiple missile launches, the saber rattling, etc. In addition, Trump has faced various threats and issues in Syria, Iran and China, none of which included any nuclear force.

Q

The entity known as "Q" (the pre-compromised Q back before November 24, 2017) had made a very specific reference in one of their cryptic messages. That message was directed specifically at a threat including missiles and the counter-strike to deal with that threat. Although this message occurred after 11/24/2017, it possessed enough qualifiers that it was deemed an accurate message by experts in military dogma, as well as others who have interacted extensively with Q to deem the message authentic. The exact message was this:

MissleQ.jpeg


"MISSILE.
MISSLE.
FOX THREE.
SPLASH.
AS THE WORLD TURNS.
RED_OCTOBER>
Q"

These words resonated with the military community online, particularly Twitter and YouTube. There was much analysis done on this one particular post as it contained keywords that those in combat would recognize immediately, and the general public likely would not.

MISSLE - Missing the "I" (This is a specific communication tool between Q, the POTUS, and other operators not known to the general public. This is based on careful analysis and is an opinion of those researching the element known as Q, although others can easily make this case)


FOX THREE - Live munitions fired (Fox 1, Fox 2, Fox 3 is usually how fighter pilots indicate missiles fired from their aircraft as they fire each one)

SPLASH - Target Destroyed

AS THE WORLD TURNS - Political Drama (?) / Geo-Political Theater continue on

RED_OCTOBER> - Likely refers to a nuclear capable submarine. It is interesting to note the ">" sign at the end... indicating the sub is less than capable of the submarine in the movie "Hunt for Red October" which was a top line Russian Nuclear Submarine (although fictional). It is not known if the ">" sign indicates it is less than capable, or that the submarine (if part of a plan) would not succeed. It is my opinion based on all facts available that the ">" indicates that the submarine in question would not succeed in any mission it is involved in.

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CURRENT TIME FRAME - JANUARY 20, 2018

What the past tells us clearly, is that we need to be ready for anything, and everything. That could not have been made more clear than on January 13, 2018.

Early Saturday morning on 1/13/18, the people of the islands of Hawaii were just starting their day. Many have not had their first cup of coffee. At exactly 8:07AM (Hawaii time) a member of the State's Emergency Operations Center in Diamond Head accidentally hit the "wrong button" that sent out the following:

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The excuse given for this major catastrophic false alarm that sent 1.5 million local residents and guests into the largest panic in United States history: "It was a shift-change" OR "Worker hit the wrong button." I won't even try to explain here how ridiculous both of these excuses are, but save it to say, neither are plausible. There are too many fail-safes installed into such systems that a single user could simply push the wrong button and send an entire state into a full panic.

Of course, this story doesn't end here. It continues on with a subsequent identical issue with our ally Japan on Tuesday, January 16th, 2018, a mere 3.5 days after the biggest false alarm in US history. Here is the false alarm issued in Japan:

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Now, things happen, and although I am not a subscriber to the "School of Coincidence" at all, this just cements my reason for never believing in "coincidences." The chance that a US State Emergency Management Office would issue a false alarm for an incoming ICBM Nuclear Weapon giving residents 13-14 minutes of time to make peace with their God, is pretty slim. So slim that I would say it is so very unlikely I would place it at 1,000,000,000 :1 odds. Now, lets add in that less than 4 days later, another country, a U.S. ally, does the EXACT SAME THING.... let's factor that in, and the odds jump much higher. I would place those odds in the same realm of one would stand a better chance of being hit by an asteroid, but that asteroid doesn't kill them, instead it sprinkles the person with fairly dust, an extra-terrestrial pops out and hands the person $1Billion in cash, a unicorn, and free Netflix for the the entire planet. Ridiculous? Absolutely. But so are the odds of this happening twice in one week, let alone EVER.

Or was it coincidence? After all, Q did put out this message on the Chans (or at least someone clever enough to pass the sniff-test of the 8Chan mods to pass as Q):

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Now lets also be very clear here... this message was highly irresponsible given what DEFCON means; Defense Condition 1, Nuclear Strike on the US is Imminent! Oh wait... that did happen, at least as far as those in Hawaii were concerned. Although thankfully, whatever did happen, was thwarted. I urge everyone to watch Lt. Colonel Potter's video linked above, as it provides all of the necessary backdrop to what I am about to continue on about (no seriously, go watch it, then come back... this article isn't going anywhere and it will really help you out).

COINCIDENCE:

It is important to note that on January 7th, 2018, SpaceX launched a highly classified item into space (low earth orbit) aboard a Falcon 9 rocket, otherwise known as the ZUMA launch, that was so classified, that no one could know a single thing about the item being launched... not the weight, not the orbit, not the shape, color or what it did.

Of course, we could watch the launch but the feed was purposely cut at the moment the rocket reached first-stage-booster-separation (this was planned). Moments later, the SpaceX booster rocket landed successfully back onto it's launch pad (we were shown some fuzzy video of this) in-tact, but then learned right after that, that the highly classified payload of the Zuma mission had a major failure.

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But did it actually fail? Well here's the thing... WE DO NOT KNOW. Not only do we not know, NASA doesn't know, Congress doesn't know... no one knows other than SpaceX and Northrop Grumman. And neither are talking. To anyone. And yet this occurred exactly ONE WEEK before the entire state of Hawaii was sent into utter turmoil.

Read More: http://www.scottanthonyarchives.com/2018/01/fox-3-red-october-reason-for-monitoring.html
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
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I saw the 12/22/17 Launch from my waterfront perspective. I took a few still shots off my I-Phone and shot a few seconds of video too.

It was the most spectacular Missile launch I have ever seen.

I too saw the spinning pattern. It appeared to be possible the second stage separation, with the engines continuing to thrust in a run away fashion. There was a noticeable spiral. I’m going to go back and play the video and attempt to enlarge it.
 
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