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Radioactive water discharge from Fukushima Daiichi NPP into ocean continues
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TEPCO HAS BEEN ACTING BAD AGAIN! RADIOACTIVE WATER FLOW INTO PACIFIC OCEAN INCREASES.


November 14, 9:26 UTC+3
According to specialists, the volume of contaminated liquid that is leaking into the ocean is increasing by 400 tons daily
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TOKYO, November 14. /TASS/. The repair operations at Japan’s crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant that were aimed at preventing radioactive water discharges into the ocean have yielded no result, the NPP operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) reported on Friday.
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Russia’s Far East not affected by Fukushima accident aftermath — Russian experts

The water used for cooling the damaged reactors at the plant that was damaged by a powerful tsunami wave triggered by an earthquake in March 2011 is still leaking into the NPP drainage system even after last week’s operations to stop the leak.

According to previous reports, due to the major damage of the plant’s infrastructure most of the water that is poured inside the damaged reactors for their cooling later leaks into the drainage system and gets into the ground waters and then into the Pacific Ocean. According to specialists, the volume of contaminated liquid that is leaking into the ocean is increasing by 400 tons daily. The radioactive contamination level in the ground waters, according to TEPCO, is very high — the content of cesium isotope in them reached 267 Becquerel per 1 liter of water, while the established norm of its content in the water discharged into the ocean is 30 Becquerel.

TEPCO specialists since April to early November this year conducted the work to stop the leakage of highly radioactive water into the Fukushima Daiichi NPP drainage system from where it leaks into the ocean through ground waters.

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Here is a second link to another story about Fukushima

http://enenews.com/tv-attempt-stop-...-entering-sea-increasing-400-tons-daily-video

Attempt to stop flow of highly radioactive liquid at Fukushima “in doubt” — AP: Much of it is pouring in trenches going out into Pacific — Experts: Amount entering ocean “increasing by 400 tons daily” — Problem “so severe” it’s consuming nearly all workers at site — Top Plant Official: “Little cause for optimism” (VIDEO)

Published: November 14th, 2014 at 11:46 am ET
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NHK, Nov. 13, 2014 (emphasis added): Radioactive water may still be entering tunnels — [TEPCO] faces another challenge in its effort to address radioactive water at the complex. It says highly contaminated water may still be flowing from reactor buildings into adjacent underground tunnels even after a work to stem the flow ended. The water in the tunnels is believed to be leaking into the sea… the firm began work in April to stem the flow of radioactive water between the reactor buildings and the tunnels… TEPCO finished the work on November 6th. But workers found that water levels in the reactor buildings and the tunnels are still linked…

ITAR-TASS, Nov 14, 2014: Radioactive water discharge from Fukushima Daiichi NPP into ocean continues; According to specialists, the volume of contaminated liquid that is leaking into the ocean is increasing by 400 tons daily — The repair operations… aimed at preventing radioactive water discharges into the ocean have yielded no result, the NPP operator [TEPCO] reported on Friday. The water… is still leaking into the NPP drainage system even after last week’s operations to stop the leak… [D]ue to the major damage of the plant’s infrastructure most of the water that is poured in… leaks into the drainage system and gets into the ground waters and then into the Pacific Ocean… The radioactive contamination level in the ground waters, according to TEPCO, is very high…

AP, Nov 12, 2014: Japan’s nuclear cleanup stymied by water woes… nearly all the workers are devoted to a single, enormously distracting problem: coping with the vast amount of water that becomes contaminated after it is pumped into the reactors to keep the melted radioactive fuel inside from overheating… The water becomes contaminated upon exposure to the radioactive fuel, and much of it pours into the reactor basements and maintenance trenches that extend to the Pacific Ocean.

The Guardian, Nov. 13, 2014: The man in charge of cleaning up the wrecked Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has admitted there is little cause for optimism… The water problem is so severe that [Tepco has] enlisted almost all of their 6,000 workers… to bring it under control… “ I have no intention of being optimistic” [Fukushima Daiichi’s manager Akira Ono] told the Guardian… large quantities [of contaminated water] find their way to other parts of the site, including maintenance trenches connected to the sea… “The contaminated water is the most pressing issue – there is no doubt about that,” Ono said… “I cannot say exactly when, I hope things start getting better when the measures start taking effect.”

Watch NHK’s broadcast here

Published: November 14th, 2014 at 11:46 am ET
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The poisoning of the Pacific continues. The full implications of such poisoning will not be able to be denied in one, two, three years?

I would not be surprised to see a Permian-like die-off of the Pacific. I see no abating of the spread of radioactive particles. I see only the potential of a substantial increase as more unforeseen accidents, natural and otherwise, happen.
 

Countrymouse

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Now I understand why Revelation first said 'part' of the creatures in the sea died, and then later in the Tribulation (near the time of Christ's return) that the seas "turned to blood" as "EVERY living creature in the sea, died..."
 

Kris Gandillon

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volume of contaminated liquid increasing by 400 tons per day...

Couple of observations:

1. "400 tons" is an odd way to measure the volume of a liquid. Why not gallons? 400 tons of salt water at 8.5 lbs per gallon comes out to about 94,117 gallons by the way.

2. Increasing by 400 tons (94,117 gallons) per day. What is the source of this increase?

3. Therefore, after 1 year (365 days) the contaminated liquid will be increasing by 30,712,705 gallons (or 130,529 TONS) PER DAY.

Refer back to #2.

Without a good explanation of the SOURCE of this increase and WHY it will continue to increase at this rate, I call BS on this article.
 

Windy Ridge

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It seems to be from a Russian source. Their "specialists" are probably non-scientists who know enough English and/or Japanese to read, but not necessarily fully understand, English and Japanese news releases. I expect that they mean metric tons. Litres would be a better measurement.

Windy Ridge
 

Night Owl

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The Japanese Government should be sued by every nation in the world for polluting all the ocean waters, it is now only Pacicfic after 3 years. It is irresponsible of the Japanese government to let this radiation leak go on for so long. If they can't afford to mix or cement it closed then they should ask U.S. We give money out for everything else....
 

TimeTraveler

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"According to previous reports, due to the major damage of the plant’s infrastructure most of the water that is poured inside the damaged reactors for their cooling later leaks into the drainage system and gets into the ground waters and then into the Pacific Ocean."

This has been ongoing from the very beginning. Maybe after Japan kills off a couple of million people they should be charged with crimes against humanity. One of the things I'm surprised about is that Japan is heavily dependent on the Pacific Ocean for there food supply. It should have an adverse effect on the Japanese people first.
 

Doomer Doug

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Kris, I posted two links to two separate sources. The first one is a Russian Itar/Tass article that quotes TEPCO scientists. The scientists are not in fact Russian, Kris: they are the ones TEPCO hired to deal with the Fukushima crisis. The use of tons in describing liquid measurement has a long history, especially in regards to naval/ocean issues. It is common to list the size of an oil tanker carrying capacity as 100 million to 125 million tons.

The second link goes to E-new which has been a clearing house for Fukushima information since 3-11-2011.

The e-news article confirms the original link, ie the "tainted Russian source: by listing the same 400 tons per day increase in water, radioactive water, flowing into the Pacific Ocean using 3 additional, independent sources.
The first is NHK which is a major media source in Japan. The second is the AP, Associated Press, and finally, the United Kingdom's Guardian media group.

The point I was trying to make, Kris is we now have FOUR independent sources, quoting TEPCO scientists, all saying Fukushima is now totally out of control, the amount of radioactive water leaking into the Pacific Ocean is increasing significantly. By the way, Kris the original amount was 100 tons per day, and now it is up over 400, which I think is noteworthy.

It is a fact the recent Typhoon unleashed staggering amounts of rainfall on the Fukushima complex. This led to additional water flows into the plant itself, into the groundwater and from there into the tunnels and finally, into the Pacific Ocean.

Kris, I have said from day one the issue was never "contaminating the Pacific Ocean" with radioactive water. The volume of the Pacific Ocean is so vast, and the amount, even at 400 tons plus per day, so small this was the kind of scientific nonsense that has NO BASIS IN SCIENTIFIC REALITY. What has happened, is the food chain is becoming contaminated, much like mercury in the 1970s ended up in top line predators like Swordfish.

Other than the immediate area off the Fukushima coastline, where documented radiation levels have been found in ocean sediment for example, there is little radiation once you get out in the ocean say 100 kilometers. Granted, there is much evidence of a "kill zone" some 50 kilometers north and south of the actual plant coastline. This continues out about 100 to 150 kilometers, but the Pacific Ocean is not "contaminated by radiation." Still, toxic, radioactive water has been flowing directly into the Pacific Ocean for nearly four years now. It is not unreasonable to think the immediate area off the Fukushima coastline, just as the 14 to 35 kilometer ground area next to the plants are full of radiation.

At any rate, if I had realized the Itar/Tass article, which repeated what TEPCO scientists said, was going to cause such derision, I would have just used the E-news ones. LOL

Bottom line, Kris is Fukushima is continuing to spew several hundred tons of highly radioactive water on a daily basis directly into the Pacific Ocean off the plant. Be patient, gang. This ongoing release is going to continue for the next several DECADES AT A MINIMUM.

Kris, when your nose turns as red as Rudolph the Red nosed Radioactive Reindeer, don't say Doomer Doug didn't warn ya. <G>
 

Doomer Doug

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TEPCO implements plan number 335 to deal with repeated FAILURE to stop the highly radioactive water pouring into the Pacific Ocean. Doc1 promises to use his personal anti tank weapon to properly motivate senior TEPCO officials. <G>


http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201411220029


After failures, TEPCO to use special cement to prevent contaminated water leaks
November 22, 2014

THE ASAHI SHIMBUN

The operator of the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant plans to fill in trenches on the coastline in yet another attempt to prevent highly contaminated water from pouring into the sea.

Under the plan, approved by the Nuclear Regulation Authority on Nov. 21, Tokyo Electric Power Co. will inject a special cement mixture into the seaside trenches of the No. 2 and No. 3 reactors while pumping up radioactive water accumulating in them.

The special mixture does not absorb water so it can spread more easily along the bottom of the trenches, displacing the tainted water.

The new method will allow radioactive materials to remain in the surrounding soil, but TEPCO decided to employ the technique because it puts high priority on preventing massive amounts of highly contaminated water from leaking into the ocean.

This spring, TEPCO tried to stop the water influx at the trench for the No. 2 reactor by freezing the junction of the turbine building and the trench, but the operation was tough-going.

The company then attempted to stop the water inflow with a cement mixture, but was unable to do so completely.

(This article was written by Tsuyoshi Nagano and Hiromi Kumai.)
THE ASAHI SHIMBUN
 

Doomer Doug

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Interesting day for information releases by both WHO and the CDC. WHO says there is no optimism regarding Ebola, and now CDC admits just how bad Fukushima really is.



http://enenews.com/cdc-official-public-health-emergency


CDC Official: “Public health emergency in the US” from Fukushima radioactive material — Gov’t wanted to quarantine people contaminated with radiation, but had no authority — Emergency Operations Center activated for first time ever due to nuclear incident

Published: November 26th, 2014 at 10:14 pm ET
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The Fukushima radiological emergency and challenges identified for future public health responses, Charles W. Miller, Chief of CDC’s Radiation Studies Branch, 2012: On 11 March 2011… a cascade of events was initiated that led to radionuclide releases causing widespread radioactive contamination… Radioactive material from Japan was subsequently transmitted to locations around the globe, including the U.S. The levels of radioactive material that arrived in the U.S. were never large enough to be a concern for health effects, but the presence of this material in the environment was enough to create a public health emergency in the U.S. The radiation safety and public health communities in the U.S. are identifying challenges they faced in responding to this incident…

Report on the 48th Annual Meeting of the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements (NCRP) – Presentation by Charles W. Miller, Chief of CDC’s Radiation Studies Branch: The CDC activated its Emergency Operations Center (EOC) for the first time ever for a real world radiation incident. EOC activities were even more intense than for the swine flu pandemic in 2009. Cargo and passengers from Japan headed to the U.S. were screened, and there were contaminated passengers (and cargo). However CDC (nor anyone else) has authority to quarantine passengers contaminated with radiation… Communication was a problem. At first [the “A-Team”, an advisory team for environment, food, and health comprised of personnel from EPA, CDC, USDA, and FDA] had to speak “off the record”. Also noted was that… Early PAGs were guidelines, not rules… The final point was that Fukushima was a great tragedy for Japan; it also became a public health emergency for the U.S.
 

Doomer Doug

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The grim news just keeps coming.


http://enenews.com/nuclear-scientis...govt-report-fukushima-worse-311-quake-tsunami


Nuclear Scientist: Fukushima an apocalyptic disaster that will haunt future generations; World now an experimental lab with humans as guinea pigs — Japan Gov’t Report: Fukushima is worse than 3/11 quake and tsunami

Published: December 9th, 2014 at 8:53 am ET
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Excerpts from Op-Ed by Quamrul Haider, Ph.D., Chair of Dept. of Physics at Fordham University, Dec 4, 2014 (emphasis added):

The fraternity of nuclear scientists… create the impression… their extremely risky projects have been carefully thought out in every detail and are inspired by the spirit of greatest responsibility… A large section of the scientific community… believes [their accident simulations are] about as reliable as tomorrow’s weather forecast [and] that by building nuclear power plants in populated areas, the whole world becomes an experimental laboratory with human beings as guinea pigs.
There is always the possibility of a major disaster. The basic difference between nuclear and other industrial accidents lies in the long-range repercussions… one could forget about the havoc wrought, for example, by the explosion of a gas pipeline or the breaching of a dam… But an accident in a nuclear power plant, such as a reactor getting out of control, is capable of doing more than immediate harm. Examples of the deadly long-term effects of a reactor accident are Chernobyl and Fukushima [which] will linger on for ages to haunt the future generations. Among the survivors there will be many cases of permanent sterility, increase of genetic mutation in our progenies, and a shortened life span as a result of cancer and other radiogenic diseases.
[It's] irresponsible and misleading to suppress the consequences of radiation… [A]ttempts are made… to blind the people by equating nuclear accidents with more familiar hazards… an unlimited risk is falsely portrayed as a limited one and glossed over in a manner that is not only unconscionable, but also unpardonable. These deceptions are further camouflaged by the way in which they are presented to the public… the far-reaching consequences of lethal radiation are overly simplified. In the post-Chernobyl and post-Fukushima era, these… do not hold water.
Wars, plagues, famines and natural disasters were known as the four horsemen of the apocalypse… After Chernobyl and Fukushima, nuclear accidents can be added [as another] horseman of the apocalypse.
Critics describe nuclear reactor as one of the most dangerous technological beasts that mankind has devised and nuclear accident as “A Nuclear War without a War.”
The consequences can assume dimensions that do not take second place to the consequences of earthquake… and in a way actually exceeds them.

R/V Marai — Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology (JAMSTEC, administered by gov’t of Japan): The great earthquake [and] tsunami with its height of more than 10 m attacked mainly the Pacific coastline of Tohoku district and approximately thirty thousand people were killed, missing or injured. What is worse is that Fukushima No.1 nuclear power plant was seriously damaged… a gigantic radiation has been leaking to the atmosphere, land and ocean. After this record crisis, the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology (MEXT) requested JAMSTEC… monitor [the] level of radiation.
 

Doomer Doug

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DON'T EAT THE MUSHROOMS!

http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=14189



4158 bq/kg Mushrooms Found In Tochigi Prefecture

December 7th, 2014 | Add a Comment

tochigi_mushrooms_2014 Mushrooms from Tochigi prefecture tested and found to have 4158 bq/kg of cesium. The test was recently completed and shows that the problems of radioactive foods it not “over” and not isolated to Fukushima prefecture.

Mushrooms absorb considerable amounts of radiation. Many wild mushrooms in parts of Europe are still banned from consumption or sale due to high levels of radiation decades after Chernobyl.

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madmac

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Doomer Doug,Thank you, Thank you for these Posts.Talk about timing I needed them right now
 

Doomer Doug

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Thanks. Given the long term health issues from Fukushima, despite what the No problem crowd think, I will try and keep this thread alive as long as possible. LOL They don't call me Doomer Doug for nothing you know. <G>
 

Doomer Doug

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It looks like Free Willy is in trouble. The 1986 Star Trek movie was about going back into Earth history to save whales that had become extinct. Yep, what used to be fiction is now becoming reality.

http://enenews.com/experts-100-deat...pregnant-mother-dies-decomposing-stillborn-fu



Experts: 100% death rate for baby killer whales along West Coast — ‘Alarm bells ring’ as no newborns have survived in past 3 years — “This is absolutely the worst thing possible”, pregnant orca dies with decomposing stillborn full-term fetus inside — “We’re going to lose them… they’ll be extinct for sure” (VIDEO)

Published: December 10th, 2014 at 12:41 pm ET
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The Province, Dec 5, 2014 (emphasis added): For an endangered orca population living off the B.C. coast, Thursday’s death of a young adult female “couldn’t be much worse,” according to a marine scientist… “It couldn’t be much worse than losing an 18-year-old female,” [Dr. Peter Ross, a senior scientist at the Vancouver Aquarium] said. “This was a female who was at the sunrise of her reproductive life.”… “There’s virtually no survival of the babies anymore, which of course means there’s no future… We have to turn this around somehow,” said [Ken Balcomb of the Center for Whale Research].

Dr Andrew Trites, U. of British Columbia: “To lose a female of reproductive age, that’s absolutely the worst thing possible that could happen… without them, the population is doomed.”

Times Colonist, Dec 5, 2014: The death of J32 [and] her baby, paints a grim future for the southern resident whales… Balcomb said. “We haven’t had any survivals in babies for a couple of years. We have had stillborns and newborns die… It’s like zero survival in birth rate here.” Howard Garrett of Orca Network said… “There was a calf born in early September that lived less than a month and that was the first calf in two years… There should be two or three births at least per year… Instead, there have been seven mortalities and no births.”

Fox News, Dec 9, 2014: [It's] thought to be one of only 18 able to reproduce… a calf birthed by an orca in the J, K, or L pod hasn’t survived longer than a year in the last three years.

KUOW, Dec 7, 2014: Scientists determined this weekend that the dead orca… was pregnant when she died… The fetus was already decomposing, suggesting to scientists that the mother was attempting to expel her stillborn calf when she died.

Earth Fix, Dec 7, 2014: Experts believe the young female may have been trying to expel her dead fetus when she herself died. The fetus… was already decomposing. — Balcomb: “Over the last two and a half years we have not had any calves survive and of course 100 percent mortality in offspring is not good for the future.”… Balcomb and others believe that lack of food and high levels of pollution in the orcas bodies are to blame for the low survival rates of the young. There are just 77 southern resident killer whales left.

CHEK, Dec 2014: Biologist [say] a sustainable population needs at least 500 individuals.

CBC, Dec. 8, 2014: They can live to be 90 or even 100 years of age. — Peter Ross, Vancouver Aquarium: “The alarm bells are starting to ring because we have not had a successful calf born… in almost 3 years.”

Michelle Rachel, CETUS: Nov. 29… she was healthy [&] happy… We don’t know how she got up here, why she got up here. It’s so far away from her regular range.

Balcomb: We’re going to lose this population… they’ll be extinct for sure in 100 yrs, maybe 20
 

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http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=14189



4158 bq/kg Mushrooms Found In Tochigi Prefecture

December 7th, 2014 | Add a Comment

tochigi_mushrooms_2014 Mushrooms from Tochigi prefecture tested and found to have 4158 bq/kg of cesium. The test was recently completed and shows that the problems of radioactive foods it not “over” and not isolated to Fukushima prefecture.

Mushrooms absorb considerable amounts of radiation. Many wild mushrooms in parts of Europe are still banned from consumption or sale due to high levels of radiation decades after Chernobyl.

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The Japanese Government should be sued by every nation in the world for polluting all the ocean waters, it is now only Pacicfic after 3 years. It is irresponsible of the Japanese government to let this radiation leak go on for so long. If they can't afford to mix or cement it closed then they should ask U.S. We give money out for everything else....

There's really no point in suing the Japanese (which is why the word is "accident") and sadly there isn't (at the present) any remediation. Unlike Chernobyl, they can't simply entomb the reactors, due to the close proximity of the ocean. Chernobyl was ONE reactor-inland and the Russians took heroic actions to remedy. This is FOUR reactors and while Japan was certainly waaaay too slow to react...there simply isn't a fix for this one.

The Japanese ARE getting sick. Believe I read thyroid cancer in children (uncommon in itself) was up 25-30% first year after the accident. We're not hearing a lot about it (gee what a surprise)...but the cancers are starting to show themselves.

Soooo happy my kiddo is not doing any more intern summers there!
 

Doomer Doug

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The powers that be are now engaged in a massive cover up of the true scale of the Fukushima nuclear disaster. We are looking at toxic releases of radiation for the next several DECADES at the absolute minimum. All the Science Fiction movies, like BladeRunner and Soylent Green are now coming to pass.

The lies will continue right up to the last moment. Unless we somehow come up with advanced nuclear cleanup technology, or figure out how to send masses of people into space and colonize new planets, the human species is now in serious trouble.

Yep, it is now 4 years from the initial meltdowns. I give it another five to ten years before the damage will be so severe and easy to see the sheeple start to notice.
 

Faroe

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There's really no point in suing the Japanese (which is why the word is "accident") and sadly there isn't (at the present) any remediation. Unlike Chernobyl, they can't simply entomb the reactors, due to the close proximity of the ocean. Chernobyl was ONE reactor-inland and the Russians took heroic actions to remedy. This is FOUR reactors and while Japan was certainly waaaay too slow to react...there simply isn't a fix for this one.

The Japanese ARE getting sick. Believe I read thyroid cancer in children (uncommon in itself) was up 25-30% first year after the accident. We're not hearing a lot about it (gee what a surprise)...but the cancers are starting to show themselves.

Soooo happy my kiddo is not doing any more intern summers there!

Considering the demographics, their debt, and the radiation, I have to wonder where Japan will even be in a hundred years.
 

pinkelsteinsmom

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The Japanese Government should be sued by every nation in the world for polluting all the ocean waters, it is now only Pacicfic after 3 years. It is irresponsible of the Japanese government to let this radiation leak go on for so long. If they can't afford to mix or cement it closed then they should ask U.S. We give money out for everything else....

They are also selling their contaminated products mostly here to the unsuspecting. Other countries have tried to protect their citizens. Just read where every baby orca has died this year.

I wonder about Japanese cars and parts?

Fukushima, another reason america should not have put a black janitor in the white hut.
 

pinkelsteinsmom

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The powers that be are now engaged in a massive cover up of the true scale of the Fukushima nuclear disaster. We are looking at toxic releases of radiation for the next several DECADES at the absolute minimum. All the Science Fiction movies, like BladeRunner and Soylent Green are now coming to pass.

The lies will continue right up to the last moment. Unless we somehow come up with advanced nuclear cleanup technology, or figure out how to send masses of people into space and colonize new planets, the human species is now in serious trouble.

Yep, it is now 4 years from the initial meltdowns. I give it another five to ten years before the damage will be so severe and easy to see the sheeple start to notice.

This same model of lie, cheat and cover up is being applied to ebola in a america.
 

Neargone

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They are also selling their contaminated products mostly here to the unsuspecting. Other countries have tried to protect their citizens. Just read where every baby orca has died this year.

I wonder about Japanese cars and parts?

I know there are radiation detectors at the dumps and metal recyclers, and they are quite sensitive. You have to drive your load through one in order to enter. I went to one incident at a metal recycler that detected what amounted to be 2 tiny grains of dirt or sand inside an old desk in the middle of a closed body truck load of scrap metal. Apparently the desk belonged to an oil and gas company and they had kept their instrument used for checking pipeline for cracks or faulty welding.

I would imagine they have the same kind of controls at the ports, but I don't know for sure.
 

Doomer Doug

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It no longer matters how the globalist elite lies about Fukushima. Radiation does what radiation does, and the impact is no longer hidden as the actual damage continues unabated.


http://enenews.com/magazine-editors...n-recently-obligation-be-aware-conditions-aud


Magazine Editor’s Final Words: Fukushima exponentially more dire than Chernobyl — Deteriorating plant threatens mass extinction around world — It’s made a deep impression on me recently — You have an obligation to be aware of conditions there (AUDIO)

Published: December 12th, 2014 at 10:17 am ET
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Guy Crittenden, editor of HazMat Management magazine and Solid Waste & Recycling magazine (Part of the EcoLog Environmental Resources Group, “Canada’s leading publisher of print and electronic environmental, occupational health and safety, workers’ compensation news, legislation and compliance solutions – Subscribers include environmental health and safety managers, engineers, executives and lawyers in all industry sectors and government”), Dec 11, 2014 (emphasis added):

[After a quarter-century, this is] my last article written as Editor of HazMat Management magazine [and] Solid Waste & Recycling magazine
Instead of a long article about what transpired in 2014 and what may be ahead, I’m going to offer readers three items… that have made a deep impression on me recently; these are “must watch” items for anyone interested in helping our species avoid peril from environmental degradation
The deteriorating status of things at the destroyed nuclear plant at Fukushima, Japan… you have an obligation, really, to be aware of conditions there
[There is a] very real and present threat from the… highly radioactive… destroyed cores of the reactors, as well as things like the storage of contaminated water in hastily-built, rusting containers
This is serious stuff… an actual meltdown of the reactors — real China Syndrome stuff — as had been assumed would never likely happen in a modern reactor
The situation is exponentially more dire than Chernobyl
[Workers must] remove the rods for safe containment without having them contact one another and trigger a fire, the consequences of which would be unimaginable — We’re talking mass extinction around the world, especially in the northern hemisphere
Most people have forgotten the situation and think of it only as a local Japanese problem
It’s only a matter of time before another earthquake or tidal wave triggers such an event

Kevin Kamps, nuclear waste watchdog for Beyond Nuclear, Nuclear Hotseat, Dec 9, 2014 (at 37:00 in): “If the meltdown is bad enough, that’s going to burn its way right through the foundations of the containment — like we’ve seen at Fukushima Daiichi.”

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Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Doug,

You may recall that over three years ago I made several salient points (here, on various radio shows and other boards): I noted that vast swaths of Japan would become uninhabitable, that Japan would sink to second-world status as wealth left the country and that disease rates would skyrocket. Actually, all of these things are inexorably transpiring, but there were several things I did not anticipate.

I had no idea that the Japanese government would impose draconian sanctions on whistleblowers and essentially shut down honest media reporting on Fukushima. I had no idea that the Japanese authorities would coerce physicians into misrepresenting radiation-related disease as being caused by other facors (upon pain of losing their medical licenses) and I had no idea that an effective media blackout would be imposed on Fukushima-related subject here in the United States. I suppose I - as cynical and jaded as I tend to be - was somewhat naive in those matters.

I no longer post much on Fukushima because, as you have alluded, the inevitable will occur in any case and at some point it will be impossible for even the most willfully blind to ignore the situation.

Best regards
Doc
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
I tend to think most people have put these reactor meltdowns out of sight and out of mind. I also think most folks are aware there is nothing that can be done about it.

I read recently, over 4000 nuclear bombs have been set off on this planet for testing reasons. This country alone is covered with reactors.

Miracles can happen and somehow something outside of ourselves might clean it up. But I also believe part of that cleanup will remove most humans as well. It's happened before. Will happen again.

Growing spiritually is the only answer.
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
Countrymouse

Now I understand why Revelation first said 'part' of the creatures in the sea died, and then later in the Tribulation (near the time of Christ's return) that the seas "turned to blood" as "EVERY living creature in the sea, died..."
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Doc1, like you I have "been on" Fukushima from the beginning. I won't deny I am increasingly frustrated at the very effective, ie Joseph Grobbels Nazi propaganda minister, level of info suppression regarding Fukushima. On the other hand, I am increasingly fatalistic and realize what will happen will happen, despite any globalist info control measures. Now, Doc1, when the Doomer Doug nose turns as red as Rudolph the Reindeer, I will let you all know.<G>
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Doug,

You may recall that over three years ago I made several salient points (here, on various radio shows and other boards): I noted that vast swaths of Japan would become uninhabitable, that Japan would sink to second-world status as wealth left the country and that disease rates would skyrocket. Actually, all of these things are inexorably transpiring, but there were several things I did not anticipate.

I had no idea that the Japanese government would impose draconian sanctions on whistleblowers and essentially shut down honest media reporting on Fukushima. I had no idea that the Japanese authorities would coerce physicians into misrepresenting radiation-related disease as being caused by other facors (upon pain of losing their medical licenses) and I had no idea that an effective media blackout would be imposed on Fukushima-related subject here in the United States. I suppose I - as cynical and jaded as I tend to be - was somewhat naive in those matters.

I no longer post much on Fukushima because, as you have alluded, the inevitable will occur in any case and at some point it will be impossible for even the most willfully blind to ignore the situation.

Best regards
Doc

I wonder how many poor, heroic "workers" AT the Fukushima plant, who were sent into the mouth of hell to try to contain this beast, have actually DIED now trying to save the rest of the world (Japan is toast).

How many brave men lost?

How many families mourning their husbands / sons / fathers?

And--worst of all--NO ONE acknowledges them, and probably their families are even denied the comfort of SAYING or having it KNOWN how their loved ones died---because (per the Japaneses govt.) there IS no "danger" at Fukushima, so therefore no one could possibly have died from anything connected with Fukushima.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
The powers that be are now engaged in a massive cover up of the true scale of the Fukushima nuclear disaster. We are looking at toxic releases of radiation for the next several DECADES at the absolute minimum. All the Science Fiction movies, like BladeRunner and Soylent Green are now coming to pass.

The lies will continue right up to the last moment. Unless we somehow come up with advanced nuclear cleanup technology, or figure out how to send masses of people into space and colonize new planets, the human species is now in serious trouble.

Yep, it is now 4 years from the initial meltdowns. I give it another five to ten years before the damage will be so severe and easy to see the sheeple start to notice.


There's really no point in suing the Japanese (which is why the word is "accident") and sadly there isn't (at the present) any remediation. Unlike Chernobyl, they can't simply entomb the reactors, due to the close proximity of the ocean. Chernobyl was ONE reactor-inland and the Russians took heroic actions to remedy. This is FOUR reactors and while Japan was certainly waaaay too slow to react...there simply isn't a fix for this one.

The Japanese ARE getting sick. Believe I read thyroid cancer in children (uncommon in itself) was up 25-30% first year after the accident. We're not hearing a lot about it (gee what a surprise)...but the cancers are starting to show themselves.

Soooo happy my kiddo is not doing any more intern summers there!


This was mentioned...tongue in cheek, probably, but still---early on after we realized the reactors "were" in meltdown (remember Japan DENIED it until the explosion, after which it could no longer be denied), but---


"is" it possible, if we evacuated the area, and hit it with the necessary megatonnage of nuclear missiles, that we could simply "burn up" all the radioactive material in that area? Simply vaporize it?

When Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed, it was thought at first the sites would remain radioactive and uninhabitable for years; instead it was learned that the radiation DOES dissipate and people CAN come back and live there safely again.


Whereas with this---a nuclear meltdown we CANNOT contain (as Chernobyl is contained)---we have CONTINUALLY renewing-and-spewing POISON FLOWING out into the earth, air, and water of the area.

So----can we bring in the last 'element'---FIRE---and destroy it once and for all THAT way?

Serious question....would be curious to hear your thoughts on an answer.
 

TxGal

Day by day
Right after the Fukushima earthquake I bought as much Japanese green tea from Costco as I thought would stay fresh. They sell my favorite brand, and still do, but I won't buy it anymore because it is a Japanese tea. We stopped buying Pacific seafood not long after the quake, and I think twice about any food products, especially fresh produce, from the west coast.

But ocean water circulates, and I wonder how long the seafood from the east coast will be safe. And when the next big quake will hit the Fukushima area. This will not have a happy ending.
 

TxGal

Day by day
Many coastal cities around the world have destroyed to the most part the coastal ecology from sewage outpourings,

Very true. I should have said we've stopped eating Pacific seafood, and wonder how much longer northern Atlantic seafood will be safe to eat given ocean circulation and the spread of the radiation. We haven't eaten any Gulf seafood since the oil spill. That pretty much leaves freshwater fish, in places where there is some safety from chemical-infused runoff. Very sad.
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This was mentioned...tongue in cheek, probably, but still---early on after we realized the reactors "were" in meltdown (remember Japan DENIED it until the explosion, after which it could no longer be denied), but---


"is" it possible, if we evacuated the area, and hit it with the necessary megatonnage of nuclear missiles, that we could simply "burn up" all the radioactive material in that area? Simply vaporize it?

When Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed, it was thought at first the sites would remain radioactive and uninhabitable for years; instead it was learned that the radiation DOES dissipate and people CAN come back and live there safely again.


Whereas with this---a nuclear meltdown we CANNOT contain (as Chernobyl is contained)---we have CONTINUALLY renewing-and-spewing POISON FLOWING out into the earth, air, and water of the area.

So----can we bring in the last 'element'---FIRE---and destroy it once and for all THAT way?

Serious question....would be curious to hear your thoughts on an answer.


Sorry Countrymouse, that won't work. Yes, they could certainly vaporize the mess but that would only make things worse. Basically you'd wind up with vaporized radioactive debris which would spread farther, quicker that it's already doing. Yes, the material would be vaporized, but that would do nothing to neutralize the radioactivity. But it gets worse. Debris in contact with the weapon's fireball is not only vaporized, but itself becomes radioactive through a process known as neutron activation. Unfortunately there is no known, practical process to increase the speed of radioactive decay and lessen the hazard more quickly.

Best regards
Doc
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Sorry Countrymouse, that won't work. Yes, they could certainly vaporize the mess but that would only make things worse. Basically you'd wind up with vaporized radioactive debris which would spread farther, quicker that it's already doing. Yes, the material would be vaporized, but that would do nothing to neutralize the radioactivity. But it gets worse. Debris in contact with the weapon's fireball is not only vaporized, but itself becomes radioactive through a process known as neutron activation. Unfortunately there is no known, practical process to increase the speed of radioactive decay and lessen the hazard more quickly.

Best regards
Doc

What if you filled the container with concrete where the rods were to stop the flow of water and let the heat create a small reaction in comparison to a tactical nuke?
 
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