CORONA FLCCC says Delta variant is ruthless, more virulent, patients deteriorating more quickly

Tristan

Tristan

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Krayola said:
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1425084297934000136
View: https://twitter.com/Covid19Critical/status/1425084297934000136


Also quoted from their twitter acct:

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The Delta variant is ruthless & is presenting MAJOR challenges for treating physicians. **EARLY TREATMENT IS LIFESAVING** The FLCCC protocols are for both vaccinated & unvaccinated people to reduce vulnerability to the virus & variants.

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So much for the idea that Delta is "more like a bad hayfever"

It would seem important to know the vacc(notavacc) status of the poor unfortunates that have been hospitalized or worse.

Thanks for sharing the post, Krayola.
 
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rolenrock

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How do we figure out how to administer the 0.4 - 0.6mg/kg of Ivermectin when the regular dosage is 1mL/cc per 110 lbs of body weight. I so not have a strong math background to figure this out. Can some of our medically trained people on here tell us how many mL/cc does this 0.4 - 0.6mg/kg translate into. Thanks in advance!
 
bw

bw

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rolenrock said:
How do we figure out how to administer the 0.4 - 0.6mg/kg of Ivermectin when the regular dosage is 1mL/cc per 110 lbs of body weight. I so not have a strong math background to figure this out. Can some of our medically trained people on here tell us how many mL/cc does this 0.4 - 0.6mg/kg translate into. Thanks in advance!
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The best way to measure small doses is probably with a cheap gram scale from Amazon or ebay. You can get little paper cups in a grocery baking section. Put a paper cup on the scale, hit the Zero button, and then squeeze out the Iv to the weight you need. If you're talking the horse dewormer, it's a 6 gram tube for a 1200 lb animal, or .5g per hundred lbs. So divide 50 by your weight in lbs and that's how many grams to squeeze into the cup. Then put the cup in your mouth upside down and lick it clean.
 
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summerthyme

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rolenrock said:
How do we figure out how to administer the 0.4 - 0.6mg/kg of Ivermectin when the regular dosage is 1mL/cc per 110 lbs of body weight. I so not have a strong math background to figure this out. Can some of our medically trained people on here tell us how many mL/cc does this 0.4 - 0.6mg/kg translate into. Thanks in advance!
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1 mg per 110# equals .2 mgs/kg. So they are apparently recommending double or triple that dose...

Summerthyme
 
Txkstew

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In the absence of any guidance, take a very small amount, then 6 hrs later, take another small amount. If no problems after 6 more hrs, bump the dose a bit. That's what I'd do.
 
Hfcomms

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FLCCC are the real experts and it is wise to pay attention to what they are saying. As over-hyped as Covid is it's equally not wise to totally dismiss it in it's entirety either. Keep your immune system strong through supplements and the prophylactics until this dies down.
 
bw

bw

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SSTemplar said:
In the natural environment a virus does not enhance itself.
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How a virus evolves depends on the environment it's in. In a dense population of new victims, a virus can evolve hyper-virulence (i.e., is selected for its ability to compete against weaker strains). In a sparse population a virus can evolve low virulence (i.e. is selected to not kill its host before the host can get to new victims).
 
Krayola

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Hfcomms said:
FLCCC are the real experts and it is wise to pay attention to what they are saying. As over-hyped as Covid is it's equally not wise to totally dismiss it in it's entirety either.
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Exactly why I started this thread. There is so much lying and misinformation out there about covid but FLCCC has shown themselves to be trustworthy. They do not have an evil agenda. I pay attention to what they say.
 
Krayola

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Hfcomms said:
What I would like to know.....

Is how many of their severe Covid patients were fully vaccinated? Would be very interesting and informative.
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Just anecdotally, I am hearing unvax'd but nothing to prove one way or the other. My own hospital system has been reporting around 85% of all hospital cases (covid) are not vax'd for a couple of weeks now.
 
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From what I'm watching the variant mostly hits the young men, burns quickly thru that population strata in a few weeks despite vaccinations and then cases plumet. It has crashed in the UK, the Netherlands and India. Not many hospitalizations. With that track record the same thing may happen in the US?

Based on numbers from overseas this doc expects the Delta surge to collapse before the end of September.

Fair use.
The Delta Surge May Collapse Faster Than You Think | A Doctor Explains
Aug 3, 2021
ZDoggMD
Guess what: pandemic dynamics are complex. Let's stop reducing them to mask mandates and indoor dining, OK?
Link to source:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdRZJKG7rhw&t=16s
Run time 11:31
 
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bw

bw

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Krayola said:
Just anecdotally, I am hearing unvax'd but nothing to prove one way or the other. My own hospital system has been reporting around 85% of all hospital cases (covid) are not vax'd for a couple of weeks now.
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Given the government's incentive to inflate jabbed numbers, it's entirely possible that only 15% of the victim population has taken the jab. If that's true, then your local hospital stats are telling you that there's no difference in the susceptibility of the jabbed vs unjabbed.
 
Raggedyman

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bw said:
This is the sort of effect we would expect if a new variant pops up in a vaccinated population. Problem is, we've been systematically lied to for so long that it would be foolish to take this or any pronouncement at face value.
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agreed - BUT assuming this is ACTUALLY FROM FLCCC I for one would tend to give it more credence. further its pretty difficult to OD on IVM at the levels suggested. what would one really have to loose by going a bit heavier than previously suggested?
 
Krayola

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bw said:
Given the government's incentive to inflate jabbed numbers, it's entirely possible that only 15% of the victim population has taken the jab. If that's true, then your local hospital stats are telling you that there's no difference in the susceptibility of the jabbed vs unjabbed.
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The vax rates around here are in the low 30's percentage wise.
 
naegling62

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Old Gray Mare said:
From what I'm watching the variant mostly hits the young men, burns quickly thru that population strata in a few weeks despite vaccinations and then cases plumet. It has crashed in the UK, the Netherlands and India. Not many hospitalizations. With that track record the same thing may happen in the US?

Fair use.
The Delta Surge May Collapse Faster Than You Think | A Doctor Explains
Aug 3, 2021
ZDoggMD
Guess what: pandemic dynamics are complex. Let's stop reducing them to mask mandates and indoor dining, OK?
Link to source:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdRZJKG7rhw&t=16s
Run time 11:31
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Check out Alabama's graphs. This 3rd(Delta) wave shot straight up and if it holds, is coming straight down. It looks like it is going to be a narrow band break out. Still too early to say though. To me it looks like a 4th of July Florida vacation induced spike.
 
Krayola

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naegling62 said:
I thought PHE Public Health England said Delta is less severe than Kent.
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I have heard from other sources that Delta is not that bad based on UK death rates but the UK had 70% of the people vaccinated. If the jab does offer some protection from severe illness, that could explain why the death rates are lower over in the UK.

Didn't Delta cause a lot of havoc over in India? Wondering if that is about to happen here.
 
naegling62

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Krayola said:
I have heard from other sources that Delta is not that bad based on UK death rates but the UK had 70% of the people vaccinated. If the jab does offer some protection from severe illness, that could explain why the death rates are lower over in the UK.

Didn't Delta cause a lot of havoc over in India? Wondering if that is about to happen here.
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India is a train wreck, so hard to know about anything coming out of there. I know of 6 vaccidented people who have caught Delta and 2 are in the hospital. I know of no one who is unvaccinated coming down with it currently and neither does one of my business managers in another county. So things are weird for sure.
 
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rondaben

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Krayola said:
Just anecdotally, I am hearing unvax'd but nothing to prove one way or the other. My own hospital system has been reporting around 85% of all hospital cases (covid) are not vax'd for a couple of weeks now.
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That would make sense. Supposedly a 8 fold reduction in hospitalization for vaccinated, 25x reduction in death.
 
Raggedyman

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naegling62 said:
India is a train wreck, so hard to know about anything coming out of there. I know of 6 vaccidented people who have caught Delta and 2 are in the hospital. I know of no one who is unvaccinated coming down with it currently and neither does one of my business managers in another county. So things are weird for sure.
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I have first hand reports from 3 different paramedics in two central Fl counties - Osceola and Orange to be specific. the reports are that they are transporting BOTH vaxxed and unvaxxed with COVID SX - the vaxxed GREATLY OUTNUMBER THE UN vaxxed - I am hearing 65/35

believe what you will -
its real - its potentially dangerous given YOUR pre-exisitings - the VAX doesn't seem to be as "helpful or useful" as we were told it was, is and would be.

let me try and find my SHOCKED FACE . . .
 
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patriotgal

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Krayola said:
Just anecdotally, I am hearing unvax'd but nothing to prove one way or the other. My own hospital system has been reporting around 85% of all hospital cases (covid) are not vax'd for a couple of weeks now.
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According to nurses working Baxter Regional in Mountain Home, AR, most patients have been vaxxed but that is not what the hospital is putting in reports.
 
Krayola

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patriotgal said:
that is not what the hospital is putting in reports.
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I don't understand the logic of that. If most patients have been vax'd then why would they lie to get more people vax'd and cause their hospital to be over-run? They are just hurting themselves.
 
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