DISASTER China's Three Gorge Dam in Danger

cyberiot

Workin' the plan.
In addition to the fake gold fraud, and the Corona Virus, we now have up to 400 million Chinese under flood threat. Finally, one of the major cities that would be impacted if the dam fails would be Wuhan, yeah, THAT WUHAN. A sort of great washing away scenario in the spiritual sense perhaps?
Dear Doomer Doug:

In your list of recent Chinese achievements, you forgot to mention the newly emerged G4 EA H1N1 swine flu virus there. The National Academy of Sciences says it has "all the essential hallmarks of a candidate pandemic virus," and is transmissible to humans. Don't go all wobbly on us now, dude!

 
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Grouchy Granny

Veteran Member
I would think that if the dam goes, it will be blamed on either India or Taiwan sparking a "response". They aren't going to admit that it failed.
Nope - they'll blame Trump. Engineers from Bureau of Reclamation, Department of Interior were in on the design and construction. Maybe that's why all the materials, correspondence, drawings etc. pertaining to 3 Gorges were kept in a locked vault.
 

Thunderbird

Veteran Member
Some years ago Stan Deyo received this prophesy from a Maori elder.

In the last few days, Holly and I have received some intriguing email from New Zealand. We asked the sender, Karen Lyster, for her permission to share them with you as they transpire because of the potentially "explosive" nature of their warnings.... See what you think.... - Stan and Holly Deyo, 8 August 1998
Karen Lyster is a friend of ours living in New Zealand. We met her when Stan was lecturing in Auckland last year. She is a very level-headed, insightful woman, not one guided by sensationalism. She sent the following messages which are certainly eye-opening. Before you read them, let us share a little information about the Maori.
Every country has its "original people". For America it is the Native Americans, for Australia it is the Aboriginals, for New Zealand it is the Maori. What do these people all have in common? They are spiritually gifted, closely knit people who generally keep to themselves, share their tribal prophesies with very few outsiders and generally lead simpler lives closely tied to the Earth.
Due to the times in which we live, that being very close to major Earth changes, some have been willing to share their information. Regardless that these three groups of people are thousands of miles distant from each other, their prophesies are remarkably similar.
==================== first email =========================
Hi Stan,
Yesterday, I was visited by a lady who is an Elder of one of the Maori Tribes. Even though she's probably only about 45, she's a decendent from the Royal Bloodline of the Maori Queen. She has what is called, great "Mana", and although there isn't an english translation for the word, it really means that the person has to have great wisdom, earned INCREDIBLE respect, and has abilities like inner visions and intuition. So if you equate her to one the Hopi Elders, you can see what I mean about her presence.
Now, she told me that a few weeks ago she was "called" to go and visit Cape Riangi - which is the furthest most point of the North Island here in New Zealand. She tried getting there three times; but had car trouble and other obstacles "put" in her way; so she returned home back. But again, she was told to go there; and, this time, the "fire in her belly" (as she put it) was far too strong to ignore. She thought it best if she go by bus tour to make sure she got there!
Now, when the bus arrived, there was a lighthouse which most of the other tourists went to look at; but, she was drawn to go out to the farthest most point of the Cape... literally the "tip top" of the North Island. She said she stood on the cliff face and closed her eyes,... letting the cool breezes brush her face. Then, when she opened her eyes, she was looking at a totally different landscape. The sea was completely gone; and there was land as far as her eyes could see. She said it seemed to go on forever. She also felt as it the land itself had "lifted" much higher than it had been previously. After taking it all in, she once again closed her eyes; then opened them once again; and the scene was back to normal.
(Of course this fits in well with Scallion's map of the world as he says New Zealand will gain heaps of land and will be joined to Australia (after a good dunking of course..... :( guess the fish will be ok!!)
I asked her if the whole of New Zealand would go under the sea before coming back up again; and she held out her hand and made a rolling and twisting motion, saying that, unfortunately, most of the country would go under; but some areas would stay above water.
Now, before she left, she gave me a big hug and told me that tomorrow morning I would wake up to the news that a dike in China had collapsed killing 100's of people. I woke up this morning at 8am; turned on the radio; and that's exactly what was being said. But, I've tried to find it on the news wires here on the net, and can't find it anywhere!! Very preplexing to me, as I KNOW I heard it.
She was one very unique lady to say the least. And I knew you'd be interested in what she had to say.
Well, first of all, I was just visited again by that Maori Indian Elder Woman who wanted all the data printed out from both your website and Jim Berkland's,... including maps etc.....- so, she left here loaded up to the eyeballs with printed matter to take back to the other Elders for them to study.
I was amazed that she even knew of both of you; because the Maori keep VERY much to themselves; and where they live, they have no phone, no TV, no radio, no video etc etc etc... To be quite frank with you, Stan, I got the disinct impression that it was YOU that I was supposed to pass the information onto about what she'd seen and what would happen to New Zealand. It was quite a shock having someone of her stature turning up at my doorstep! That's why she gave me the prediction before she left about the dikes busting in China and killing 100's of people..... and of course it happened exactly as she had said,... - even her saying I'd be waking up and hearing it on the news at precisely 8am (I'm certain this was to prove what she'd told me on other things were true).
She said that she's been told that Lake Taupo would "blow" (her words); and, she added, she could take me to nearby places where there were valleys that would be filled with 100's and 100's of bodies just floating there after Taupo blows. Then, she went on with her other explanations of how the whole of New Zealand would be effected with all the twisting and turning it would have to endure (not a pretty thought!). Of course, I asked her when all this would happen and - just like the Hopis - she said "soon, very soon"... but she did go a little further than that. However, I was taking so much in from her, I only hope I can tell you correctly what was explained to me.
She said that there would be an event that was unrelated; but when this event happened, it would be a trigger for many major earth changes.... Again, this was to be in China; and it's a subject I know nothing about; so, please bear with me on this one. She said there was this "channel" there in China that they'd been working on for many years; and it was not yet complete. She said work had stopped on it for various reasons; then she told me that up above this "channel", there were 1000's of logs or timber that were perched at the top of this "channel"... Furthermore, over time, some had been stolen; but most were still there (she didn't say what they were to be used for, so it's a bit confusing for me). She said that soon these logs would come crashing down killing 1000's; and, when this happened, it would be a sign for her people that these Earth changes were about to happen with great intensity.
Does any of this make sense to you? Do you know of any such "channel" being built by the chinese? She said it had been started many years ago but never completed.
Anyway, I'm really glad you replied, Stan; because, as I said, I got the distinct impression that it was you that they really wanted this information to be passed onto.
I will send more tomorrow.... Yes, the Maori Elder was aiming the message at me. The Chinese connection is a signal to me as well. I saw the doco on TV; and I know what she is talking about... It is the Three Gorges Dam Project in China which is to dam the Yangtze River. It will consume over 130,000 acres and stretch some 400 miles along the Yangtze. The trees are being cut and have been stockpiled for later uses including dikes.... The Green group, the US Gov't ... the World Bank - ALL have tried to stop this project as an environmental nightmare.... It has displaced 2 million Chinese from their homes...
In my dreamvision, I was shown the only thing I would need to have when the Taupo event was to happen was a small red alarm/calculator I had purchased from an Indian exporter named Dadlani in Hong Kong quite a few years ago. I imported several hundred of them for Myers Dept stores and other customers a few years ago. I remember the calculator well as it was with me daily and because it was flaming red in colour... but, I did not make the Chinese connection until just this second... Hong Kong is China now... Hmmm.....m..m.m.m.m
The alarm clock was a simple thing and yet what I saw in the dream had depth in my sub-conscious that I could not remember until now... good grief!.... good grief!... We have heaps of data on Three Gorges Dam project... maybe the Maori's info has been sent to tell us that the time is near because my chinese, red, alarm clock was the only thing I would need???
'Cracks' in China's Three Gorges Dam
April 12, 2002
A senior Chinese official says cracks have appeared in the controversial Three Gorges hydroelectric dam being built on the Yangtze river.
Qian Zhengying, the former minister of water resources who heads an expert group on the dam, returned from a week-long inspection of the project demanding that the cracks be "repaired fastidiously", according to the state-controlled China Daily.
There have been consistent rumours that the 185-metre high dam, which entails the removal of entire villages to higher ground, is being shoddily constructed, amid reports of endemic corruption in the project.
But the China Daily report represents an unusually frank admission that the dam has serious shortcomings and some leaders are now critical of the project.
"During the past three years, concrete placement in the project has not been first class, causing a variety of related accidents and drawbacks, though the concrete process has improved compared with previous years," Ms Qian was quoted as saying.
The cracks measure a maximum 1.25 millimetres across and 2.5 metres deep, according to China Daily.
The paper said cracks had also been found in the project's permanent ship-locks and ship-lifts.
Costly Project
The Chinese Government's prestige project is hugely costly - officially it is expected to cost at least US$24bn but unofficial estimates say it could cost at least three times that amount.
It has been bedeviled by corruption. In 2000, 97 officials were convicted of embezzlement from the dam fund.
Activists have criticised the enforced resettlement of those whose homes lay in the 600km-long (300 mile) area which will form the Three Gorges reservoir and the loss of many historic buildings and artefacts that will be drowned.
The dam is intended to control China's notorious flooding problem. But engineers have questioned whether the dam will be effective, citing problems with sedimentation and the construction itself.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
If they get a few more real big rains above that dam it may case some serious issues for the Chinese and the government will be to busy dealing with a major flood and collecting the dead to pay attention to anything else.
Word leaked from a engineer in china was saying the water is rising faster than they can release it, the flood gates are all open as far as they can be.
 
It will fail, maybe not completely but it will definitely let loose the Kraken. An engineering group from the West was originally brought in to survey the work but the Chinese did not like what they heard and just ended up building the dam themselves with their own engineers and saying it was "safe". It has moved with the deluge they have been having and they have been releasing more water then they should flooding towns down river. With more rain on the way and as mentioned earlier, it is not set in the strata it can only take so much flex before pieces start to fall off. Expect over 40 million people to be washed down river if they are not evacuated soon.
 

Squid

Veteran Member
You know the finest material and construction methods were used, from day one.
Exactly thats why if you look at a recent satellite picture the dam looks like bowing out in multiple places. Also helps when the same company that builds it is the same company that signs off quality.
 

tiredude

Veteran Member
I remember reading about the quality isssues with this damn here years ago as it was being built........ damn that's depressing.......
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I'd forgotten the Stan Deyo information, you might want to repost it also in the Unexplained Room so we can discuss it further.
 

Jerry

Senior Member
Have seen commentary that the dam is built from large concrete blocks that are poorly inter-connected. Further concern is that the dam is not connected to the bedrock it is constructed upon. In essence, the dam is sliding down stream from the original build. If satellite pictures are accurate (and not constructed from several passes), portions of the damn are sliding faster than their neighboring pieces. One suspects their engineering was optimistic at best....
 

20Gauge

Has No Life - Lives on TB
400 million people and 40% of arable land. And Wuhan. And Shanghai. Maybe the virus was ignored because they're all dead soon anyway when the dam goes.
If the dam goes, so does China. It will solve their population problem in about 3 minutes. The rest of the world will have their problem of China expansion also solved. It may be a win win for the world...... just saying....
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
In essence, the dam is sliding down stream from the original build.
Had not heard that. If it's sliding, in the normal course of events we would expect the speed to increase exponentially as it disconnects. It shouldn't take long to find out.

If it's sliding at all, we should be seeing feverish construction of stops against the downstream footing of the structure. Really big stops.
 

Oreally

Veteran Member
Had not heard that. If it's sliding, in the normal course of events we would expect the speed to increase exponentially as it disconnects. It shouldn't take long to find out.

If it's sliding at all, we should be seeing feverish construction of stops against the downstream footing of the structure. Really big stops.
from the quantity of water we see going through the dam how could that possibly be done in time?
 
Had not heard that. If it's sliding, in the normal course of events we would expect the speed to increase exponentially as it disconnects. It shouldn't take long to find out.

If it's sliding at all, we should be seeing feverish construction of stops against the downstream footing of the structure. Really big stops.
Don’t think that’s gonna work.
 

Shadow

Swift, Silent,...Sleepy
In both the 2018 & 2019 photos in post 66 there appears to be a darker area to the right and lower right of the pictures. Like that strip was taken later in the day or during cloud cover. Definitely at a different time and stitched. The white water on the left side disappears at the light/dark line.

Of course it may be failing as I type. That is as much criticism as these old eyes can give.

Shadow
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
The 2018 and 2019 images show shifts in the dam contour in the same places, but this might be simply a result of the images not being updated in the meantime, so the same stitches are used.

ETA: The rough/white water is different. These are clearly different images, but that doesn't mean different stitching bounds were used.

 
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Squid

Veteran Member
The force of water over time can be witnessed by a trip to the grand canyon.

I also heard that the dam is not anchored to the bedrock. Whether this was done to save time or save material and money this could very well lead to its eventual failure.

Remember our recent experience with Chinese leadership and Corona. The local leaders hid and suppressed bad news from regional leadership, eventually regional leader hid and suppressed bad news from CCP and Xi. Regional leader gone, subsequent outbreaks appear to have been hammered by locals and any news squashed.

The process will not support any discussion of the dam to be anything but an engineering marvel, until it fails.

When it fails it will no longer be a possible failure and embarrassment that could lead to losing a cushy regional post, it will be something else.

I am not sure China has the capacity to process the possibility there could be a problem so nothing imho will be done, until it fails.

The distortion shows movement, the movement would coincide with distortions on the force distribution that should lead to pockets of concentrated force in small areas instead of spreading the forces more equally against the entire surface.

If you look at a lot of old big dams the construction usually is curved (Grand Cooley Dam is exception, built just in front of natural restriction) with the outside of the bow facing against the water. In my layman's mind this actually uses the force of the water to help push the pieces together making the force of the water to help with the strength across the dam. But the 3 Gorges Dam is a straight line. This certainly saved on material but if this length is not anchored into the bedrock how can it not move over time and if it is moving how can it not fail.

May not be this year but based on what appears to be current distortions 1-2 years and nature may win out.

If China is lucky there will be small failures that provides some warning, but if a major section fails catastrophically the amount of water that will be released and the speed it will travel will be devastating.

And when looking at China pushing for conflicts across multiple fronts seems this dam is a very large indefensible target. You would not have to be a super power to be able to hit this big of a target.
 

Walrus

Contributing Member
It was made by Chinese. Even chinese know not to trust anything made by Chinese. That's the real reason they won't allow open trade with America. Because Chinese people will choose american-made over Chinese made every single time.
Old saying over yonder: "In China, even the eggs are counterfeit."
 

marsh

Has No Life - Lives on TB
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKzxXsQVPts
19:16 min
China-sanctions bill heads to Trump; Hundreds demand missing money; Residents face floods, mudslides
•Premiered 3 hours ago


China in Focus - NTD

Hundreds of trust investors gather together to defend their rights. Many are wondering, what happens if trust is no longer trustworthy?

Residents in China’s largest city facing fast-flowing floods and mudslides. This, as officials label the floods the lowest emergency level, warning it’s just the beginning of flood season.

One of China’s most important agricultural regions under attack by locusts. The insects decimating crops crucial to the region’s survival.

A Beijing mall shut down after a confirmed virus case was found. Now, residents are wondering about the efficacy of the health-tracing QR codes.

And a bipartisan bill sanctioning China now heading to the president’s desk. This, in response to the national security law on Hong Kong. See why analysts say it could strike a major blow to Beijing.

[COMMENT: This is a general news cast on current events in China produced in the US. Floods are from .57 to 3:30 min.]
 

Doomer Doug

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Pictures aside, the Marxists have been opening the sluices on the dam and sending a shi$__&load of water downstream. We are already looking at massive downstream flooding with no dam collapse. The rain amounts upstream are causing rivers to flood. I will post some of the stories when I get on my laptop. Mudslides smothering entire villages for one thing.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
If this isn't attached to the bedrock, then no matter WHAT the government is in China, it is likely to fail at some point, and not only will up to 40 million people die (at least) directly or indirectly from the massive walls of water than will race down the country, but the world will be faced with a humanitarian crisis seldom seen in modern World History.

This is one that even if China tried to cover it up, there is simply no way that would be possible; even in the 14th century the rumors of the horrific Earthquakes that killed millions in China (followed by the Black Death and believed at the time to have caused it) made it to Europe before the disease did.

Today the sites will be in our living rumors, horrific government or not, these are human beings and some of them are related to my brother-in-law and my nephew.
 

LawPoet

Contributing Member
The most up-to-date review of the situation using sources outside China may be the New York Times [blech!] article published within the last hour, viz , Friday 7-3 @ 9 a.m. EST--LINK = Severe Floods in China Leave Over 106 Dead or Missing

The gist of the article is not the structural soundness of the damn, although some damning comments about ALL of China's construction are found there, but the "human interest" aspect of flooding, loss of life, and prospect of additional heavy rains tomorrow, Saturday the 4th and thereafter!

[I skimmed some "official reports" on the subject published in English and found them to be mere propaganda pieces--"the county's in the very best of hands".]

The next few days may fulfill the Chinese curse described as "interesting times". I pray for the Chinese people, who might one day be liberated from their unworthy, incapable, and undemocratic leaders.
 

tiredude

Veteran Member
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The most up-to-date review of the situation using sources outside China may be the New York Times [blech!] article published within the last hour, viz , Friday 7-3 @ 9 a.m. EST--LINK = Severe Floods in China Leave Over 106 Dead or Missing

The gist of the article is not the structural soundness of the damn, although some damning comments about ALL of China's construction are found there, but the "human interest" aspect of flooding, loss of life, and prospect of additional heavy rains tomorrow, Saturday the 4th and thereafter!

[I skimmed some "official reports" on the subject published in English and found them to be mere propaganda pieces--"the county's in the very best of hands".]

The next few days may fulfill the Chinese curse described as "interesting times". I pray for the Chinese people, who might one day be liberated from their unworthy, incapable, and undemocratic leaders.
Something like an Oroville event?
 
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