ADMIN CHANGES TO BOARD POLICY ON THE "N-WORD" AND OTHER ISSUES

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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[NOTE: The policy changes below are a direct result of member comments, as well as Staff discussion]


CHANGES TO BOARD POLICY ON THE "N-WORD" AND OTHER ISSUES


Hi everyone! Based on the "n-word" poll and associated thread, as well as some good comments from the "losing traffic" thread, as well as discussion in the Staff Lounge, below are the policy changes that we'll be implementing, effective immediately:

1) The N-word will no longer be allowed, and will be starred-out. This will include all previous appearances in existing threads. Once again, this is not because I want this place to be some snowflake "safe-space" :kk1:, but rather to allow members and staff alike to be able to refer folks to this forum without trepidation. (And yes, I too stopped referring people here, and that should be proof enough how uncomfortable some of our posted material made me.) I ask that you PLEASE try to also minimize other highly charged words referring to the "chimp community". (sigh, my bad.)

2) Misogynistic/woman-hate posts on unrelated threads will be removed. Misogynistic threads in their own right MAY be moved to ALT depending on content, and where the thread goes in discussion. (However, rants against militant feminism/feminists are fine.)

3) Catholic bashing has got to stop. POPE bashing of this particular "anti-pope" will be allowed. But not the entire religion. (Muzloid bashing will be allowed until they stop bombing, killing and beheading innocent people around the world.)

4) Membership requests will be given top priority moving forward. We need to check for those requests EVERY DAY.

5) REPORT THIS POST is absolutely necessary. We intend to crack down on serious ass-holery (heh) that all too often gets injected into our conversations. (Yes, I'm guilty of it as well. I have instructed the staff to slap me when they see me doing it.) The staff member who handles the issue will report back to the reporting party, so that that member knows that someone actually reviewed the issue. PLEASE DO NOT REPORT A POST BECAUSE YOU’RE BUTT-HURT OR YOU HAVE A DISAGREEMENT WITH WHAT WAS POSTED.


That's it. The goal here is NOT to stifle anyone's free expression, but rather to make this place more conducive to enhanced discussion from a greater number of members. I've noticed that only the same 50-60 people seem to actively participate on a daily basis. That HAS to increase, or we're doomed, and sooner rather than later. You all know that I love this place with all my heart, and deeply appreciate each and every one of you (yes, even you medic - ;)). I want MORE discussion rather than less. I want MORE newshounds, rather than fewer.

At some point in the future, TB, like many other web fora, may indeed close its doors. The era of the web forum is fading, just as the era of BBS's passed in the late 80's. But I want us to be here as long as we possibly can. We use this site for myriad things, not just news. When it's gone, it's gone, and will never return. Whether that happens in a year rather than 10 years (or longer), depends on us all.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Well Done, Sir!!!


BZ



Thanks for being careful and/but not niggardly with the managing.
(Harvey made me make sure)


( I can put TB back on my cards again!!!)
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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:kk1:


This place is not, and will never be, a SJW haven or politically correct. I wouldn’t stand for it.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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BTW, people can still write the word in their posts. The star effect is for display only. If we unban the word, it will instantly reappear in all posts.
 

Macgyver

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Is the 1-5 chimp-out scale still allowed when discussing civil disturbances?

Anything on the outright gay bashing?
I have a friend who is the most right wing conservative you would probably find. I think he he would love the political side here.
He is gay though. Saying that he hates the trans, cis, I'm a confused idiot people so that would still be ok.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Actually, there’s not that much gay bashing here. There are a few super-religious folks that do it, but they feel “called”. What most people here abhor is the “militant gay agenda” rather than gays themselves (except for the aforementioned few.) I don’t really see a problem with it.

As for the chimpout scale, yeah that’s fine.


ETA: “cis-gender” is a made-up term used to describe “Normals”; that is, heterosexuals.
 

Jubilee on Earth

Veteran Member
Good call here. It was the right decision. I know everyone here is intelligent enough to get the point across without being crass or lowbrow. I’m glad to see us raise our standards for decorum. I'm sure it will result in some new members. Thanks, Dennis.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Yes, this works. If a human feels overly compelled to use the word - he still can AND BE A STAR - actually six of them!

And yes - everyone will know EXACTLY what he was saying. Without having to say the word except in their mind.

So if Owner, heathen that he is, comes on here and starts writing about eating "****** Toes" we'll still know he's talking about Brazil Nuts?

Sorry - above sentence was a test of the Emergency Snowflake System.

I'm good with it. I agree with any change which encourages discourse.

Dobbin
 

Stanb999

Inactive
I always try to think of it like walking into a room in your home. While I do know a lot of people in the room and can glad hand many with crass comments. A few of your guests may be offended. We should try not to offend your guests.
 
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Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Um - one more thing

******!

I hope you all like my rendition of exception. Sort of like Jim Thorpe's Olympic Medal Yearbook.

(Fooled you! - Maybe)

Dobbin
 

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
Yes, this works. If a human feels overly compelled to use the word - he still can AND BE A STAR - actually six of them!

And yes - everyone will know EXACTLY what he was saying. Without having to say the word except in their mind.

So if Owner, heathen that he is, comes on here and starts writing about eating "****** Toes" we'll still know he's talking about Brazil Nuts?

Sorry - above sentence was a test of the Emergency Snowflake System.

I'm good with it. I agree with any change which encourages discourse.

Dobbin

My old and aging aunt still calls them ****** toes. And she calls black people ****** too. It was a word she was brought up using and isn't meant derogatory. Its just used like any other English word in her vocabulary.

Its more funny than anything, when I watch the rest of our adult white clan, scrambling when the word comes out.

We'll all be together Memorial Day and I always look forward to her colorful wording and sentence structure. She is the life of any family gathering.
 

BH

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Question: We now have to identify content by number of '*' like in Dobbins post above. What variations of '******' were also added to the bad-word list (if you can be allowed to post them)?

Is it possible to allow the first letter and splat the rest, 'n*****'?
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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We've had some new members register in the last coupla days.

Coincidence?

The preceding year had only 12ish registrations.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Is it possible to allow the first letter and splat the rest, 'n*****'?

Yes.

What variations of '******' were also added to the bad-word list (if you can be allowed to post them)?


I actually can't list them because the board would start them out. (That's funny right there. I can't tell you because I can't tell you. :D)


Feel free to go to the test forum and experiment.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
That all seems quite reasonable to me. Thank you, Dennis, that had to have been a difficult path to navigate. Well done.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Its a sort of "compromise." It can lead to communicative confusion - such as my Jim Thorpe comment.

But so it can be with regular words written out plainly.

We all work with the communication tools which "the system" allows us. Human talk and write. Horses (most of them) neigh and look the other way. Equine operate with a much more constrained tool.

Dennis has constrained the tools only a little bit. You still can say ****** (bet you thought I wrote ****** didn't you?) and everyone knows what you said from context.

In the case of my "bet you" statement - there was no context - thus communication was severely limited - but you still got the point.

As I said earlier "You can still say it in your mind" if that pleases you.

Context is EVERYTHING.

Snowflakes would deprive you of even that.

Dobbin
 

nebb

Veteran Member
Whatever.....now I can refer my snowflake friends here......oh yea, I don’t have any snowflake friends. Sorry Dennis, to quote Flip Wilson.....”the devil made me do lt” :)
 

WriterMom

Veteran Member
I think the decisions are reasonable, especially in light of a decline in new memberships...thank you Dennis and staff!
 
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