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Moto

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And if you are going to quote me, please do so in context.

The excepts were not at all out of context. You are a hypocrite of the highest order, despite your constant self-aggrandizing and "I am enlightened but you are not" attitude. To you, even your STATE is "reasonable", while others I guess fall short. What a joke...

I think the time you spend here has not done you any good at all.
 

Gercarson

Veteran Member
It is NOT a giant slap, as western historians/archeologists have been trying to deny that black men were pharaohs for several generations. It is only lately that most have finally acknowledged this.

Try putting the other guys shoes on for a minute- where you are considered stupid and inferior because of your color. Remember, it was only a few years ago that blacks were considered too stupid to play basketball.

I live in a pretty reasonable state where most people are accepted and yet my good buddy's wife and son (who are black) were grocery shopping a few days ago- a guy (white) pushed the little 4 year old boy aside and told him to "move, ******." If the husband had been there someone would have gone to jail. And this friend of mine is a hard working black man who makes good money and pays his own way through life, but he and his family are still "******s."

Try those moccasins on for a while.

And if you are going to quote me, please do so in context.
The Egyptians who built the pyramids were more than likely the same as today's population - Semitic and looked like all other Middle Easterners. Now, that is a not to say that there wasn't a "moorish" mixture involved - but it's a real leap to say they were black, negroid features in some because of the proximity to negros and their ability to think with their genitalia.
Just a cursory search will bring up horrible evidence that blacks do not stop at "name calling" but go for animalistic and brutal rape and murder - I suppose they can be forgiven by those who think that name calling is equal to rape and death . . . right? Oh, and some of the rape and murder victims were little white girls.
 

Gercarson

Veteran Member
LA... and you think that's a big deal? Sorry LA ain't that big of deal other than population numbers. But of course, I bet you lived in South Central right?

I don't "promote hate", I promote "believe people that claim to be your enemies"... some one says they want to end me or my race, I believe them and will actively defend against it.

Yeessshhhhh . . . good doggie, er . . . good coyote - anyway it sure sounds like you're part of the solution and have no mistaken ideas as to what the problem is.
 

Wiley

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Yeessshhhhh . . . good doggie, er . . . good coyote - anyway it sure sounds like you're part of the solution and have no mistaken ideas as to what the problem is.


Well so far reason and fair treatment hasn't worked, betcha superior firepower will.

I'm not real sure where you're coming from, mind elaborating? I know where Ender is coming from... a horse with with a very high ass... mind giving more to the conversation Gercarson? Don't want to misconstrue what you're saying.

And, I've seen plenty of reasons of why more & more groups of blacks are getting more violent but of course, I'm the racist if I point out the 800 lb gorilla in the middle of the room. Anyone thinks that was a racial pun, check your own self first. It's an old saying, deal with it.
 

Gercarson

Veteran Member
... mind giving more to the conversation Gercarson? Don't want to misconstrue what you're saying.

And, I've seen plenty of reasons of why more & more groups of blacks are getting more violent but of course, I'm the racist if I point out the 800 lb gorilla in the middle of the room. Anyone thinks that was a racial pun, check your own self first. It's an old saying, deal with it.
Sorry Wiley - I was applauding your post. I'm going to use your last paragraph to add to the conversation - it seems to be clear enough. I'm amazed at the difference in definitions of racism and am not always "correct" in using the appropriate words to describe the 800 lb gorilla in the middle of the room. The defense of the white on black will always be more pronounced as "victimization" while even more heinous acts of black on white will be excused as societal constructs and therefore acceptable. People have to stand up and speak out and not take any "it's not their fault, they were slaves" nonsense . . . crap.
Thanks for standing up.
 

Ender

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The Egyptians who built the pyramids were more than likely the same as today's population - Semitic and looked like all other Middle Easterners. Now, that is a not to say that there wasn't a "moorish" mixture involved - but it's a real leap to say they were black, negroid features in some because of the proximity to negros and their ability to think with their genitalia.
Just a cursory search will bring up horrible evidence that blacks do not stop at "name calling" but go for animalistic and brutal rape and murder - I suppose they can be forgiven by those who think that name calling is equal to rape and death . . . right? Oh, and some of the rape and murder victims were little white girls.

There were black pharaohs; it is documented history that Napoleon had the noses knocked off of many of the statues when he invaded Egypt; he was offended that they looked black.

As for the crimes you state- no one is defending this kind of crap- any more than anyone would defend raping, mutilations and lynchings of innocent blacks in today's world- as has happened in the past.

ONE MORE TIME: I am not defending crime- I am appalled at the hate that is continually growing on this forum. It is one thing to call for justice in these gang assaults- it is quit another to lump all blacks into the same category.

Moto: The excepts were not at all out of context. You are a hypocrite of the highest order, despite your constant self-aggrandizing and "I am enlightened but you are not" attitude. To you, even your STATE is "reasonable", while others I guess fall short. What a joke...

I think the time you spend here has not done you any good at all.

We call others what we are, ourselves- so have-at-it.

BTW- I was speaking of Utah which has a pretty reasonable population who treat each other fairly well despite racial differences. Others were the ones bringing up Detroit etc.
 

Brutus

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Utah?

Are you kiddn' me?

Utah as an example racial harmony for all to follow?

Utah is about 95% white and 5% Indian. And the Indians don't show their asses because they realize how badly outnumbered they are.

Ender, you're a friggin' loon, you know that?

:rolleyes:
 

Brutus

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Utah?

Are you kiddn' me?

Utah as an example racial harmony for all to follow?

Utah is about 95% white and 5% Indian. And the Indians don't show their asses because they realize how badly outnumbered they are.

Ender, you're a friggin' loon, you know that?

:rolleyes:

Excuse me.

Let me amend my previous statement.

If Wikipedia is to be believed - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_data_of_Utah - white people make up 84-88% of Utah's population. You will notice at the link it says "one of the U.S. highest percentages of white/European-Americans....".

THAT'S why things are civilized in Utah. WHITE PEOPLE!!!

:sht:
 

Wiley

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Excuse me.

Let me amend my previous statement.

If Wikipedia is to be believed - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_data_of_Utah - white people make up 84-88% of Utah's population. You will notice at the link it says "one of the U.S. highest percentages of white/European-Americans....".

THAT'S why things are civilized in Utah. WHITE PEOPLE!!!

:sht:



Brutus... KNOCK IT OFF!!! You're going to screw up Ender's pre-conceived of how life really is and it may lead him/her to finding out out the truth about Santa Claus!!!

You gotta be careful partner, you deal out too much truth at one time and people's reality gets a matrix-like kick in the ass!


:groucho:



E.T.A: I honestly can't tell or know Ender's gender and did not mean that as a slam. Every thing else was though.
 

Brutus

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Brutus... KNOCK IT OFF!!! You're going to screw up Ender's pre-conceived of how life really is and it may lead him/her to finding out out the truth about Santa Claus!!!

You gotta be careful partner, you deal out too much truth at one time and people's reality gets a matrix-like kick in the ass!


:groucho:



E.T.A: I honestly can't tell or know Ender's gender and did not mean that as a slam. Every thing else was though.

Yeah, but.....

Some people are just BEGGING to have their bubbles burst.

:lol:
 

Wiley

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Yeah, but.....

Some people are just BEGGING to have their bubbles burst.

:lol:


Well if you want to do that, let's take Ender to Farish Street & all over Fornification St. in Jackson! There will be no doubts left!
 

Brutus

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Well if you want to do that, let's take Ender to Farish Street & all over Fornification St. in Jackson! There will be no doubts left!

LOL! ANYWHERE in West Jackson would disabuse him of his ill-informed notions RIGHT quick!

:whistle:
 

Ender

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Just one more thing and then I'm outta here.

Where I live in Utah the population of Latinos, Filipinos and blacks is very high. I am also from LA and I'd like to see you dorks take a hike into the ghetto.

You can berate me all you want but it only proves that you are bigots who are part of the problem- not the solution- with the inability to understand that what you exhort is lies from public school. This mentality is what is wrong with our country from finances to politics to entitlement to racism and beyond.

The hate that goes on here is unfathomable to me, but that's your decision.......

So have at it.

And BTW- I am male- Cherokee/Lumbee/Scot.

Sorry, mbabulldog- carry on.
 

Wiley

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Just one more thing and then I'm outta here.

Where I live in Utah the population of Latinos, Filipinos and blacks is very high. I am also from LA and I'd like to see you dorks take a hike into the ghetto.

You can berate me all you want but it only proves that you are bigots who are part of the problem- not the solution- with the inability to understand that what you exhort is lies from public school. This mentality is what is wrong with our country from finances to politics to entitlement to racism and beyond.

The hate that goes on here is unfathomable to me, but that's your decision.......

So have at it.

And BTW- I am male- Cherokee/Lumbee/Scot.

Sorry, mbabulldog- carry on.


Ender you are predictable. I knew if I kept checking this thread you would attempt to get the last word in with an insult... congrats, you are consistent.


So people like you calling people like Brutus and myself "dorks" & "bigots" an ignoring every thing we've said some how makes you right? How? Do you call blacks that attack unsuspecting Asians, Whites, pick your favorite ethnicity, etc and openly admit that they were hunting for whichever other racial group to hurt and/or kill bigots? What name do you have for them? I'm betting you still think they are victims right? Come on, you make this accusation of me now back it up and dispute what I SAID not your perception of me. Could it be that you think that Mississippians are automatically bigots? Come on, spill it. I'm this close to exposing you so don't run now that it appears I've caught you doing EXACTLY what you think I've done.

And let's get back to LA... did YOU walk through a ghetto? I have been through ghettos in other places including New Orleans, Jackson MS, various other places and I'm still here. Why? I kept my wits about me and didn't pretend that they weren't a threat. Talked to plenty of good people there, been threatened by some bad ones. The bad ones all have one thing in common, they know when you aren't afraid to blow their damn heads off, they'll leave you alone. Now did you or did you not go through LA ghettos? If you did, were you alert and carrying or did you play the part of Reginald Denny? At least tell me you had the common sense to lock your doors on the vehicle... Denny didn't.

Personally, I think you blow a bunch of smoke and spend too much time looking down on others....you know, practicing your own form of prejudice or as you like to call it "bigotry." Sounds like you live in a safe, secluded world. Fine, good for you. You ever want to face reality, come with me to Jackson MS but bring your own firearms. I'll show you hatred and it won't be coming from me. I'll cover your ass and try to get you back out.

Last thing: Next time you accuse me of hatred, back it up with evidence. Just because I choose to acknowledge threats from a certain doesn't meant I'm full of hatred, instead I'm recognizing theirs and readying myself. So deal with your ignorance first and then get back with me.

At least thank you for clearing up that you are male, I'll address you that way from now on.
 

Ender

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Ender you are predictable. I knew if I kept checking this thread you would attempt to get the last word in with an insult... congrats, you are consistent.


So people like you calling people like Brutus and myself "dorks" & "bigots" an ignoring every thing we've said some how makes you right? How? Do you call blacks that attack unsuspecting Asians, Whites, pick your favorite ethnicity, etc and openly admit that they were hunting for whichever other racial group to hurt and/or kill bigots? What name do you have for them? I'm betting you still think they are victims right? Come on, you make this accusation of me now back it up and dispute what I SAID not your perception of me. Could it be that you think that Mississippians are automatically bigots? Come on, spill it. I'm this close to exposing you so don't run now that it appears I've caught you doing EXACTLY what you think I've done.

And let's get back to LA... did YOU walk through a ghetto? I have been through ghettos in other places including New Orleans, Jackson MS, various other places and I'm still here. Why? I kept my wits about me and didn't pretend that they weren't a threat. Talked to plenty of good people there, been threatened by some bad ones. The bad ones all have one thing in common, they know when you aren't afraid to blow their damn heads off, they'll leave you alone. Now did you or did you not go through LA ghettos? If you did, were you alert and carrying or did you play the part of Reginald Denny? At least tell me you had the common sense to lock your doors on the vehicle... Denny didn't.

Personally, I think you blow a bunch of smoke and spend too much time looking down on others....you know, practicing your own form of prejudice or as you like to call it "bigotry." Sounds like you live in a safe, secluded world. Fine, good for you. You ever want to face reality, come with me to Jackson MS but bring your own firearms. I'll show you hatred and it won't be coming from me. I'll cover your ass and try to get you back out.

Last thing: Next time you accuse me of hatred, back it up with evidence. Just because I choose to acknowledge threats from a certain doesn't meant I'm full of hatred, instead I'm recognizing theirs and readying myself. So deal with your ignorance first and then get back with me.

At least thank you for clearing up that you are male, I'll address you that way from now on.

YOUR words, dude:

The way I explain the difference in races is like this:
A group of Whites moves into an area and what happens? They build and beautify.
A group of Asians moves into an area and what happens? The add more quality to the existing community.
A group of Blacks move into an area what happens? They bring their ghetto habits with them and tear down every thing that's been built.
There is NO city, state or nation where Blacks took over and things got better. That says a lot right there. Feel free to prove me wrong, I'd love to see it
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Expressions of love- my bad.

BTW- if you really want to carry on this conversation, then start another thread- mabulldog is correct.
 

Wiley

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YOUR words, dude:



Expressions of love- my bad.


That's called experience "dude", I didn't choose for it to be like that, that is just the way it is. Wake up and face reality. Now tell me about your time in LA's ghettos.
 

Gonecrabbin

Senior Member
I would in a heartbeat. I'll fire until the slide locks and if I get my hand on any spare mag, I will shoot the rest as they run. Enough of this crap, time to put fear back in the bad people of the world.

If some one still can't see the threat that a group of young blacks pose when they feel that they have the advantage over you, then you'll have to learn the hard way.

For the record, yes I have let a group of thugs know that I would kill every one of them dead if they made one more step towards me. Already had my gun drawn and ready for what came next. Never had to do that on a group of Asians or whites.

The way I explain the difference in races is like this:
A group of Whites moves into an area and what happens? They build and beautify.
A group of Asians moves into an area and what happens? The add more quality to the existing community.
A group of Blacks move into an area what happens? They bring their ghetto habits with them and tear down every thing that's been built.
There is NO city, state or nation where Blacks took over and things got better. That says a lot right there. Feel free to prove me wrong, I'd love to see it.


Well lets see if this generalized statement has any truth...http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/hood.htm



CRIME IN THE HOOD
Violent victimization of whites by blacks is modeled in a racially mixed inner-city neighborhood. Its evolution is traced from the first black to move in, to the last white who moves out. The probability of a white being violently attacked is developed as a function of a neighborhood's racial composition. It is shown to increase nonlinearly, approaching unity as a neighborhood becomes predominately black.

A crisis of violence
John is white. He is married with two children. He wears a blue collar when he leaves his shabby, inner-city house to go to work. Life has been a struggle for John, but now he faces his most difficult challenge. John's neighborhood is turning black.

In John's city, neighborhoods do not integrate, they go black. He has seen it happen elsewhere. He knows what to expect. John and his family will soon face intolerable hardships. They will have to move. Inevitably the last whites able to leave, will. High among their reasons will be fear -- fear of becoming victims of violent crime. As his neighborhood turns black, John and his family will notice many changes, but none will be more dreaded than the prospect of being violently victimized.

We will model violent crime in John's neighborhood, tracing its evolution as the community goes from all white to all black. We will chart the course of victimization from insidious beginnings to the threshold of intolerability. We will show that initially the swelling danger will be barely noticeable, but from the beginning there will be an underlying acceleration that ultimately will drive the risk to extreme levels.


The data
The data reveal two causes of white victimization by blacks. First, a black is 3 times more likely than a white to commit violent crime. However, as a neighborhood turns black, this factor could increase black-on-white violence at most by a factor of 3, and then only when a neighborhood is virtually all black. The observed level of white victimization is much too high to blame on general tendencies of blacks to be violent. A more important reason is simply that blacks prefer white victims.

The best and most complete evidence comes from the Justice Department. Its annual National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) canvasses a representative sample of about 80,000 Americans, from roughly 43,000 households. From this survey, a picture of crime is painted by its victims. The last full report of the NCVS was issued in 1994. From it we learn that blacks committed 1,600,951 violent crimes against whites. In the same year, whites committed 165,345 such offenses against blacks. Despite being only 13 percent of the population, blacks committed more than 90 percent of the violent interracial crime. Less than 15 percent of these had robbery as a motive. The rest were assaults and rapes.

The asymmetry of interracial crime goes still deeper. More than half the violence committed by blacks is directed against whites, 57 percent in 1994. Less than 3 percent of the violence committed by whites is directed against blacks. Population and NCVS statistics reveal that in 1994 a black was 64 times more likely to attack a white than vice versa. In the city, the races live mostly apart from one another, so that the most convenient victims of thugs are others of the same race. Only a hunter's mentality could account for the data. Given a choice, a black thug will select a white victim. Ironically, so will a white thug.


Modeling the Hood
The real world is too complicated for us to describe exactly. We can learn about it by describing a simpler system, or model, that mimics it. The model should include the essential features of the real system, and yet be mathematically accessible. Refinements can bring us closer to the truth, but we never quite reach it. We approach truth asymptotically. To model John’s neighborhood, we face a problem immediately. A neighborhood is itself an abstraction. Where does it begin? Where does it end? We simply regard John's neighborhood as a black and white universe with a total population N, a black fraction fB, and a white fraction fW.

Divide the number of criminally violent victimizations perpetrated by blacks in a year, by the black population and call this quantity, pB. It is related, but not equal, to the probability that a randomly selected black is a violent criminal. It would be that probability if criminals always acted alone and committed only one violent act per year. Since we are interested in victimization, pB is the more relevant quantity. The corresponding quantity for whites is pW.

The probabilities calculated below refer to a one-year period. First we look at the probability, ÖB, that a particular white, say John, will be victimized at least once by blacks. The white population in the hood is NfW. Consistent with NCVS data, we assume that if presented with a convenient choice, both black and white thugs will select white victims over black. Then, the number of incidents involving white victims and black perpetrators is pBfBN. For simplicity, we assume single-victim incidents. (This does not preclude victims from being attacked more than once a year.) The probability that John will be the victim in Incident 1 is 1/(NfW). The probability that John will not be that victim is 1-1/(NfW). The probability that John will not be the victim of Incident 2 is also 1-1/(NfW). If each incident is independent of the others, the probability that John will not be victimized by blacks this year is (1-1/(NfW))^(pBfBN). The probability that John will be victimized within the year is then


(1)

The probability, ÖB, may be conveniently approximated when NfW >> 1, a condition met in every practical circumstance. The approximation will be seen to hold over the useful range of the function. It may be obtained by noting that the second term on the right hand side of (1) is of the form (1 - å)^n, where å << 1. If y = (1 - å)^n, we may write ln y = nln(1 - å). For small å, ln(1 - å) ≅ -å (the linear term in the expansion about å = 0), so that ln y ≅ -nå. Exponentiation gives back the approximation, (1 - å)^n ≅ exp(-nå). Accordingly, we write for ÖB


(2)

The approximation (2) is attractive because it has no explicit N dependence. To a high degree of approximation, the size of John's neighborhood will not change the likelihood of him becoming a victim. For N = 1000 and pB = 0.0858 (estimated from the NCVS below), we computed ÖB from (1) for various black neighborhood fractions, fB. For the same value of pB, we also applied the approximation (2). The results are compared in the table below. Agreement is excellent throughout the range of racial composition.


fB ÖB from (1) ÖB from the approximation, (2)
0.01 0.000867 0.000866
0.1 0.00949 0.00949
0.5 0.0823 0.0822
0.9 0.540 0.538
0.95 0.807 0.804
0.99 1.000 1.000


To use either (1) or (2), we need the quantity, pB. It may be estimated from NCVS data. In 1994, blacks committed 2,802,538 violent crimes. The Census Bureau puts the black population as of July 1, 1994 at 32.653 million. The ratio of offenses to population gives us the value: pB = 0.0858.

Results
Figure 1 traces the evolution of black-on-white violent crime as a neighborhood transforms racially. The probability, ÖB, that John is victimized at least once in a year is plotted versus the black fraction of the neighborhood. Beginning insidiously, the preying of black upon white is barely noticeable until the community is about 20 percent black. At that point, the probability of John being attacked by a black is still only 0.02. However, the probability that at least one member of John's family will be attacked by a black is about 8 percent. When the black population grows to 50 percent, the likelihood that John will be attacked by a black rises to 8 percent, and the chances are 29 percent that someone in John's family will be attacked within the year. For most whites, this threat crosses the threshold of intolerability, but those more hardy or less able will remain. As blacks begin to predominate, the situation for whites grows worse rapidly. If John hangs on until his neighborhood is 65 percent black, the risk of victimization will be 15 percent for him and 53 percent for his family. Should John be among the most foolhardy hangers on, when the black population reaches 90 percent, John will have a 54 percent chance of being victimized by blacks, with the chances of someone in his family becoming a victim being better than 95 percent -- a virtual certainty.





Risk from whites
Our model paints a bleak picture for John, but since he grew up in a tough blue-collar neighborhood, he is not new to risk. Let us see how his new post-integration risk compares with his pre-black risk. To do this, we calculate the probability, ÖW, that John will be victimized by whites.

Regardless of the state of racial mixing, the number of victimizations per year perpetrated by whites in the hood is given by pWfWN. The probability that John will be the victim of white-on-white Incident 1 is 1/(NfW). The probability that John is not that victim is 1-1/(NfW). The probability that John is not the victim of Incident 2 is also 1-1/(NfW). Again, assuming independent incidents, the probability that John is not victimized by a white in the given year is (1-1/(NfW))^(pWfWN), and the probability, ÖW, that John is victimized by whites is


(3)

The probability, ÖW, may be approximated by similar methods used to approximate ÖB, giving ÖW ≅ 1 - exp(-pW). We can make a further simplification here. Since pW << 1, we may write exp(-pW) ≅ 1 - pW, giving us the extraordinarily simple expression:



(4)

Equation (4) gives the probability that John will be victimized by a white in a given year. It shows that to a high degree of approximation, the risk John faces from whites is not only independent of neighborhood size, but also neighborhood composition. The probability that John is attacked by whites in a given year is the same no matter where he lives. It is simply equal to the per capita number of violent incidents perpetrated by whites in a year. We tested this approximation, setting N = 1000 and pW = 0.0279, the value obtained from the NCVS. Over most of the range of racial composition, the approximation, ÖW = pW = 0.0279 agrees within 2 figures with the accurate expression (3) as seen in the table below.


fB ÖW from (3)
0.01 0.0275
0.1 0.0275
0.5 0.0275
0.9 0.0277
0.95 0.0278
0.99 0.0290


We note that John's risk from whites remains a bit under 3 percent from the day the first black moves into his neighborhood until the last white leaves.

Total risk
Finally, we want to compute John's total risk of victimization, that is, the risk of being attacked by anyone, white or black in a given year. The probability of John not being victimized by a black is 1 - ÖB, and for not being victimized by a white, 1 - ÖW. The probability that he is not victimized at all is (1 - ÖB)(1 - ÖW). Therefore, the total probability, Ö, of John being victimized in a given year is 1 - (1 - ÖB)(1 - ÖW), or


(5)

In Figure 2, we plot the probability, (in blue) that John is violently victimized by anyone from his neighborhood, irrespective of race during the year. Also shown (in red) is John's risk from white thugs. Because John knew crime before his neighborhood began to turn black, we are also interested in comparing his post-integration risk with his pre-integration risk. The scale on the right side of Figure 2 shows the factor, Ö/ÖW, by which John's risk has increased since blacks moved into his neighborhood.




The probability that at least one member of John's family will be violently victimized in any one year is simply 1-(1-Ö)4. Figure 3 shows how this probability varies with the neighborhood's racial composition. In a 50 percent black neighborhood, there is a 37 chance that John's family will in some way be violently victimized. As the neighborhood relentlessly turns black, some whites will have to be among the last to leave. If John is unfortunate enough to be one them, he will face the following statistics: When the neighborhood is 90 percent black, John and his family will have a 96 percent chance of being victimized. Soon after that victimization will become a virtual certainty, reaching 99 percent likely when the neighborhood turns 93 percent black.






Summary
We have modeled violent victimization of whites in a racially mixed neighborhood. Our model is based on data collected by the Justice Department and reported in the NCVS. It paints a bleak picture for whites. As a neighborhood turns black, violent victimization of its white residents begins immediately. At first the risk is small, not much different from its previous all-white level. However, by the time the neighborhood reaches the half-black point, every white family of four has better than a one in three chance of being victimized within a year. Two factors account for black-on-white violence. 1) Blacks are 3 times more likely to commit violent crime than whites, and 2) black thugs prefer white victims, selecting them 64 times more than white thugs choose black victims. Most of the risk faced by whites, results from the predilection of black thugs to prey upon whites. As a neighborhood becomes overwhelmingly black, the risk curve for whites rises to ominous heights. In the last stages of transformation, the likelihood of a white being victimized within a year becomes a virtual certainty.



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Another point-Ender calling Hugh Nibley an Egyptologist is disengenous. He was a Morman scholar, professor, writer.
 

mbabulldog

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So here's my feeble attempt to get this thread back online...

Scenario: You and your significant other are walking down the street, say 10:30'ish at night. A group of males, color indifferent to this conversation, are walking down the sidewalk towards you. They are loud, appear to be having a good time, but obviously enjoying the flow of testosterone that being in the company of other young males will bring out. You have nothing concrete to judge their actions, or future actions, on other than it makes you "nervous".

What is the appropriate course of action?

> Walk to the other side of the street to avoid the pack?

> Put your hand on your sidearm (which in some states is by itself a definition of "brandishing") but not clear leather?

> Openly carry your firearm at low-ready?

> Blindly continue on and through the pack, hoping for the best because you feel your hands have been "handcuffed" by societal mores and laws?

I probably should have phrased this as a poll, but I haven't figured that functionality out yet.

Bulldog

ETA: I put forth this scenario, because I am very familiar with the neighborhood in which these attacks have taken place. There are many high-end restaurants and bars in these neighborhoods, so it is very possible that this scenario takes place as described above.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Hand on firearm under clothes, and unsnap the holster. Also if possible change direction, casually if possible.
 

etc

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I worked downtown Denver. It was a scary place even a decade ago.
Where are they getting this info - most gangs in Denver are not black but Latino and they hang out in packs.
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Snipers on roofs and armed bait walking the street. Take out the trash. Problem goes to the dump.
 

lisa

Veteran Member
I worked downtown Denver. It was a scary place even a decade ago.
Where are they getting this info - most gangs in Denver are not black but Latino and they hang out in packs.

apparently that has changed in the last 10 years, especially east side. I hang around the shopping district during the day but the scene changes at night. An 18 yr. old hispanic girl I work with and a couple of friends were downtown a few nights ago when a bunch of black guys in a car threatened them with rape..they took off running and got out of there. Apparently she also knows one of the recent victims of the baseball bat assaults..he was just randomly attacked,she said his mouth and teeth were really messed up. As far as I know so far no one has been arrested...and I wonder if they'll be charged with a hate-crime if they are.
 

Chair Warmer

Membership Revoked
So here's my feeble attempt to get this thread back online...

Scenario: You and your significant other are walking down the street, say 10:30'ish at night. A group of males, color indifferent to this conversation, are walking down the sidewalk towards you.

If naming racial identity is being a racist, then isn't naming gender/sex identity to be sexist?

PC = ignoring reality, statistics, and the experience of victims.

Me and Dh were out with our kid, and we had a close call a couple of weeks ago. We were standing alone at a street vendor's stall late at night as they were closing up. We were standing there getting cotton candy for our kid.

Out of nowhere this guy walks up to stand toward the side and slightly behind of DH, his chin stuck up in the air and posed like a tough guy, like he wanted to kick Dh's a$$. He looks hubby up and down about three times from head to toe, summing him up. Hubby looked at me and got a clue something was going on behind him, and glanced back at the guy while simultaneously putting his hand on his weapon and completing the transaction with the vendor. The guy stands there a minute longer, looks at Dh's hand strategicily placed, then takes off.

We already had a gang stop in the street and do a stare down with Dh earlier that day. The gang made some gestures Dh's way and then moved along down the sidewalk. They were all wearing the same black socks with black shoes.

We were at the beach, what used to be a family friendly vacation spot.

You've already guessed the gender/sex.

Can you guess the race?

(I know, you don't care. That would be racist.) :rolleyes:

Mrs.Cw
 

mbabulldog

Inactive
If naming racial identity is being a racist, then isn't naming gender/sex identity to be sexist?

PC = ignoring reality, statistics, and the experience of victims.

WTF? I'm trying to, at the invite of the other contributors of this thread, to get this thread back onto the topic it was OP'd.

I have MY own opinions of white vs. black vs. hispanic, and I chose to keep them to myself and immaterial to this thread. If you want to turn this into a race-baiting thread, then feel free to place me on Ignore, I won't have any of it.

Damn, this is how perfectly good threads get shut down.

And I'm the one who's ignorant? Good lord, you know NOTHING about me or my background. I've walked in some of the darkest places society would dare call civil, and came out the other side unscathed, thanking the good Lord for quick hands and a quicker mind. So bugger off if you're only capable of throwing attacks out there from behind your keyboard. I've walked the walk, nothing to prove to the likes of you.

sheesh, some people...
 

Chair Warmer

Membership Revoked
I was on topic.

A black guy positioned himself to jump my dh on the street. A black gang was being threatening to my husband. While we were on a very short (two days) family vacation. These people are ruining family vacation spots for America. These people are young and mostly black.

I said black. They were. ALL of them.

The title says "Black gangs" too.

It is part of the topic.

Mrs.Cw

P.S. And if this fact is disturbing, then make the young black guys stop doing this crap to people. THAT'S how you get people to stop talking about it.
 

Dex

Constitutional Patriot
In Baltimore LE has set up mobile cop shops in the inner harbor area because they have to show a presence. They will stop and question and ID groups of 3 or more black kids because they have to show a presence and they have to target the groups that are committing these crimes. They don't generally stop and ID white kids in groups of 3 or more because they aren't the ones committing these crimes. Pretty simple huh?

The problem is that if it isn't an expensive tourist area, you will not see this type of LE. Right now it's safer in some ways going to the harbor rather than the strip malls and anchor store malls in the suburbs. I've had to forbid my wife from going to places like that without me for her safety.

These days out of pure self preservation I have to view most groups of black kids, even just 2 as a potential threat. I can usually tell by their demeanor if they fit in "that" category but unfortunately I still have to approach them with caution. About 2/3rds of them turn out to be just regular kids going about their business but the other 1/3 of them you can just tell would take a swing at you just because you are white.

I've developed a game face for the street that I think is pretty effective. You keep your head up and your eyes steely, not staring anybody down but more like you got the thousand yard stare going on and that you might be a little pissed off about something. You gotta look like somebody who's TOTALLY aware of their surroundings and maybe a little bit crazy and you are in no way going to take any shite off of anybody.

I don't know, I've spent enough time on the street, worked as a security guard in a sketchy neighborhood for a few years and you kind of develop a manner of carrying yourself and an attitude that is just barely perceptible but it says "don't F with me." You have to look like a hard target rather than an oblivious white sheeple with their face in their smartphone and no idea what's going on around them. The main factor is keeping your head on a swivel, scanning everyone in your area in a persistent manner that lets them know that you know they are there.

These punks are looking for weak prey, easy targets in people that aren't paying attention to their surroundings, people who look like they are unaware of who's around, it's kind of easy to pick that kind of person out, they just seem oblivious and in their own little world or they might even exude a sheepish PC subservient attitude when they are around blacks.

I recommend that folks do a little bit of their own target scanning. Imagine yourself as one of these cowardly punks and think about what you would be looking for in a victim and then do everything you can to not look like that potential victim. Look around, you will be amazed at how many of those self involved oblivious innocents are strolling around these days. The economy, job markets, food prices, gas prices, technology, etc are making a lot of people completely blind to their surroundings, they have stuck their heads in the smartphone sand, not coming up for air very often. They have become pretty selfish, charity and manners are becoming a thing of the past, they always seem to be somewhere other than where they are at the moment.

Anyway, the threats are pretty easy to point out, profiling is necessary if you don't want to be a victim, act like somebody who knows "whats up" and you will go a long way in not becoming a hapless victim of cowardly jackals.
 

Chair Warmer

Membership Revoked
Dex,

Dh has a stalky build and not a weak looking target. I think they saw him as a challenge to play with to up their egos. The lone guy seemed to want to do something so he could have "bragging rights" among his homies.

That's how it seemed to us anyhow.

When the lone guy realized Dh came prepared for a fight then he ran off. Dh was playing it cool but prepared. So was I. Dh said what clued him in was my expressionless but cold dead serious look while I was watching that guy's actions. I was silent but internally preparing for a fight to break out.

This was at Va. Beach and during the day there were lots of bike cops out on almost every corner, but we didn't see many at night. If we go back to vacation there again then we'll be staying off the streets at night.

We've been to Va. Beach before and never had problems like this. It is getting worse.

Mrs.Cw
 

dogmanan

Inactive
Wow I just found and read this thread. Wow, rember I just got back on line two days ago after about five weeks of know on line.
I did not know this had happened, and we have this Wi. fair thing, it's getting more and more wild out their.

later
 

Warthog

Black Out
Just one more thing and then I'm outta here.

The hate that goes on here is unfathomable to me, but that's your decision.....
I don't hate anyone! (But) If you swing a baseball bat at me, no matter what color, race, religion, or nationality you are, I am going to shoot your stupid ass plain and simple. A ball bat is a weapon that can and will cause serious physical harm and death. Watch the ball bat scene from Inglourious Bastards to get a good idea.
 

Ender

Inactive
I don't hate anyone! (But) If you swing a baseball bat at me, no matter what color, race, religion, or nationality you are, I am going to shoot your stupid ass plain and simple. A ball bat is a weapon that can and will cause serious physical harm and death. Watch the ball bat scene from Inglourious Bastards to get a good idea.

Actually, I agree 1000%- its casting everyone of one race into the same bigoted pot that I disagree with.
 
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