MORON Biden on High Gas Prices: You Can Save Money if You Buy Electric Cars

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I've seen several posts, no article links, on facespy this afternoon that gas prices are predicted to hit $6 to $7 a gallon this summer. I did a quick google search and am not finding anything about the price increase being this high.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I've seen several posts, no article links, on facespy this afternoon that gas prices are predicted to hit $6 to $7 a gallon this summer. I did a quick google search and am not finding anything about the price increase being this high.
Oh, goodie, which means our prices will likely go from around 12 to 15 dollars a gallon. It doesn't seem "as bad" because they sell it per liter but last time it was about 5 or 6 dollars a gallon in the US, it was 10 dollars a gallon here.

A lot of our costs are taxes though I have no idea at what point the government would break down and lower them, they are saying they won't lower taxes on heating oil and gas but they may also face riots if people actually start freezing and/or serious black outs become a way of life.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Oh, goodie, which means our prices will likely go from around 12 to 15 dollars a gallon. It doesn't seem "as bad" because they sell it per liter but last time it was about 5 or 6 dollars a gallon in the US, it was 10 dollars a gallon here.

A lot of our costs are taxes though I have no idea at what point the government would break down and lower them, they are saying they won't lower taxes on heating oil and gas but they may also face riots if people actually start freezing and/or serious black outs become a way of life.

Probably just another ploy to push their stupid electric vehicles.
 

drafter

Veteran Member
I’ve got a $1000 piece of junk car that gets 20mpg. Even with gas at $10, considering I drive maybe 50 miles a month, I’ll keep the junker. I can’t see in this lifetime ever justifying the cost of a new car, let alone an electric one. I’ll buy a friggen horse and wagon from the Amish before I do that.
 

155 arty

Veteran Member
www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/11/23/joe-biden-addresses-high-gas-prices-americans-can-save-money-if-they-buy-electric-cars/

Biden on High Gas Prices: You Can Save Money if You Buy Electric Cars

Charlie Spiering3-3 minutes 11/23/2021

President Joe Biden promoted his efforts to lower gas prices on Tuesday, but he reminded Americans they would save more money on gas if they owned electric cars.

“For the hundreds of thousands of folks who bought one of those electric cars, they’re going to save $800 to $1000 in fuel costs this year,” Biden said, referring to the $112,595 electric Hummer pickup he test drove at a General Motors factory in Detroit earlier this month.

The president appeared frustrated that some Americans continue blaming his environmental agenda for higher gas prices, dismissing it as a “myth.”

“My effort to combat climate change is not raising the price of gas, what it’s doing is increasing the availability of jobs,” Biden insisted.

He claimed his government subsidies for green energy and electric cars would only help Americans get jobs and save more money.

“Let’s do that. Let’s beat climate change. With more extensive innovation and opportunities,” Biden said, claiming the economy would be “less vulnerable to these kinds of price hikes” on fossil fuels.

The president notably suspended all federal leases on oil and gas and shut down the Keystone XL pipeline after taking office, which hurt the amount of domestic oil production.

Domestic oil production was on a steady rise in the United States when former president Donald Trump was in office until the coronavirus pandemic hit. Domestic oil production continues to lag even though the demand for oil has recovered.

Biden still has no plan to increase the domestic production of oil, but he frequently complains that OPEC+ nations are not releasing enough oil to the world.

The president has also resisted leveling an export ban of oil from the United States or loosening blending regulations and standards to alleviate the cost of production.

Biden announced plans to release 50 million gallons of oil from the Strategic Oil Reserves to help lower prices but cautioned Americans it would take a while to have an effect on gas prices.

“While our combined actions will not solve the problem of high gas prices overnight, it will make a difference,” he said. It will take time, but before long, you should see the price of gas drop where you fill up your tank.”

Biden’s efforts did not immediately have the desired effect on the oil market as prices rose over three percent per barrel on Tuesday morning after his announcement.
what a ****tard!!!!
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
NH now at about 18cents per KWHR.

Electric cars run $33K-$60K.

Time value of money puts return on $33,000 investment at $56,332.37 over 10 years (10 percent interest, monthly compounding.

So tying up this money in an electric car cost you $469.43 per month. PLUS the energy you use as electricity.

You have to have the $33,000 first. Or take a bank loan to buy the car (ADD loan cost this to your cost.)

Dobbin
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Question for everyone, just who is making the batteries for these electric cars?
Just how toxic are these batteries and what about the recycling process?

China is making them, I forget where all the minerals are mined at, some come from Africa, some come from Brazil, they are highly toxic to manufacture, and are an issue when it comes to recycling, etc. the biden family is heavily invested in nickle and a few of the other ores used to make the batteries, there is a thread about their investments here at TBK.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I have no idea. I was just guessing. So almost as much as buying a cheap house I guess. What do they cost? More than $60,000? That's crazy. Regular working people can't afford that. These commies are insane.

A "cheap" house in my area will run you about $229K In some of the smaller towns that are a bit out of the urban area might run you $69K. Meemur and others that live in Iowa, in or just outside of small towns might have a better idea than myself on housing prices. Last time I looked at a rural home/acreage the seller was asking $229K for the house and one acre and the place was a dump, needed a new well and new septic, and this was nearly 20 years ago now.
 

rbt

Veteran Member
There’s a lot of ranches in Nevada that don’t have electricity and never will they run on generator, if I’m down a dirt road 30, 40 miles and need a charge guess you just walk. If you live in a city I guess you’d be fine until they have a black out.
 
A "cheap" house in my area will run you about $229K In some of the smaller towns that are a bit out of the urban area might run you $69K. Meemur and others that live in Iowa, in or just outside of small towns might have a better idea than myself on housing prices. Last time I looked at a rural home/acreage the seller was asking $229K for the house and one acre and the place was a dump, needed a new well and new septic, and this was nearly 20 years ago now.
Wow. I'm not up on house prices, but when I bought my dumpy farmhouse 22 years I we paid $57,000. 3 acres too.
 

Quiet Man

Nothing unreal exists
I'm lost here..............why are EV even a thing?

1) Mining of minerals for batteries will leave us depleting resources faster and sooner than we do with oil/gas

2) Where do you get them charged..........and how long does it take to charge them?.........you can gas up a car good to be good for another 200-400 miles in a few mins. How long does it take to recharge the battery in the EV and how many miles is that good for?

3) How many rechargers to they get before the battery needs replaced?

4) How green is the manufacturing of batteries and their disposal?

5) How green will it be to replace gas reserves with electrical power grids to recharge all the EVs?

In 2023 the WEC (world endurance championship) with sports prototype racing (Like at Lemans 24 hrs race) have been intensively developing alternative fuels. Including clean burning gas made from recycling of land fill garbage and/or human waste.........and hydrogen cars which fuel can be made from sea water and the only by product is oxygen and clean water..

With ideas being pushing in certain forms of motorsports like this as the laboratory for alterative energy in transportation in the future.......it seems to me like electric is going to be a problem child not a solution in the future. Not to be outdone there is an all electrical F1 racing series known as FE or Formula Electric out there but the WEC is the area that really holds promise to the kind of personal/commercial transportation solution society needs while allowing for responsible human stewardship of the planet.
Good points. Here's another:

6. When will the batteries spontaneously combust, burning my house down?
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
China is making them, I forget where all the minerals are mined at, some come from Africa, some come from Brazil, they are highly toxic to manufacture, and are an issue when it comes to recycling, etc. the biden family is heavily invested in nickle and a few of the other ores used to make the batteries, there is a thread about their investments here at TBK.


So again China is the key here and how best to stop it?
We can guess who has their money invested in this.
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
You mean those electric cars that require the unavailable chips? Those electric cars with significant fire risks? Those electric cars with charging time issues that impact distance issues? Those expensive electric cars with significant maintenance issues and costs?

Those electric cars?

Idiot. Every time he opens his mouth he proves to be more foolish.


Yep, those are the ones!


And yet, he got the most votes evah!


:spns:
 

subnet

Boot
I've seen several posts, no article links, on facespy this afternoon that gas prices are predicted to hit $6 to $7 a gallon this summer. I did a quick google search and am not finding anything about the price increase being this high.
Go figure, just a few months and a dollar shy of me winning the gas poll at work...smh
I said 8 bucks by Jan 20th...oops, just a wee bit off...lol
 

Zagdid

Veteran Member
I don't think the insurance industry has fully weighed in on the EV. Collision and comprehensive costs have to be based on the cost to repair. At this point things like parts and service are unimaginable for these new startup brands. EV owners will be penalized by every aspect of the fire risk, whether it be charging at home, driving, towing or scrapping. The trade in value of an EV with depleted batteries is what? (negative?) Cost of gas is nothing compared to these costs.
 

Cacheman

Ultra MAGA!

Western Leaders Blame Russia-Ukraine Conflict for Energy Prices, Deflecting From G7 Build Back Better and Climate Change Agenda - The Last Refuge


5-6 minutes


The agenda really is quite transparent when you stop and look at it overall. Riddle me this…

Why would the Biden administration announce yesterday they were cancelling new oil and gas leases if they were worried about the Russia-Ukraine impact on oil and gas prices?

The short answer is, they wouldn’t.

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If the Biden team were worried about gas prices, they would be doing everything possible to lower gas prices as the Russia-Ukraine crisis unfolds…. but they are not. They are doing the exact opposite. Why? Because the Biden administration wants high gas prices as part of the Green New Deal as executed within their energy and regulatory policy.

High gas prices and high energy prices are a feature, not a flaw of Biden policy. The goal is to achieve approximately $10/gal gasoline at which point the economics of the climate change agenda find parity over fossil fuels for the average person.

So far, it looks like gasoline will easily reach $10/gal in Biden’s term as the disposable front man for the larger agenda. By the end of this year, we are on track to see the first $7/gal rate for gasoline in the U.S. From there they only need increases of $1/gal per year for a few years.

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In the U.S. it was previously called “The Green New Deal.” However, the wording was shifted to “Build Back Better” upon the instructions of the global leaders who engineer the narratives. Both plans are versions of climate change policy as deployed by the World Economic Forum. Build Back Better is the program to push climate change policy in the aftermath of the pandemic.

Overall, the global climate change agenda is a system of new economics. Climate change gets us to the global carbon trading system that is the holy grail of the World Economic Forum. Carbon trading, when triggered, would automatically supersede financial market trading in scope and scale. Again, we repeat the baseline, there are trillions at stake, and everything is about the economics.

The Biden administration and western leaders of the G7 are all chasing the same objective. However, they do not want their citizens to realize the pain they feel is an intentional construct of their political leadership. That’s where Vladimir Putin and the Russia-Ukraine crisis come into play as a useful tool for blame-casting.

Check out this article from today: “Ukraine-Russia crisis could lead to highest gas prices in California history, expert says.”

(VIA ABC) – SAN JOSE, Calif. (KGO) — California’s already record-high gas prices are expected to get even more expensive in the coming months, according to experts, and it’s all being fueled by the crisis between Russia and Ukraine.

[…] “If Western countries come after Russia with sanctions, Russia could just say, ‘Hey, we’re just going to cut off oil,'” explained Patrick De Haan of GasBuddy. “And that could cause oil prices to spike at a time that gasoline demand is continuing to recover as COVID numbers decline.” (read more)


None of the current gas price increases have anything to do with Russia or Ukraine. The U.S. government has completely shut down our own oil and gas industry development as intended by Joe Biden policy. It was the very first executive order signed on the very first day in office.

YESTERDAY – “Biden revived the social cost of carbon on his first day in office, setting it at $51 per ton of CO2 emissions — the same level as set by the Obama administration. The administration was expected to release an updated figure this February” (LINK)

The climate change agenda is at the heart of the collective world order push for a global carbon trading system. That system is what the Paris Climate Treaty was intended to facilitate.

However, when you chase climate change policy to its logical conclusion, there was always going to be a time when the financial pain felt by the citizens was considered a major hurdle to achieve the carbon trade exchanges. Gas prices and energy prices are going to hurt people, working families especially. That’s why they need Vladimir Putin portrayed in the role of the bad guy who the G7 can blame for gas price increases.

Global oil demand about to surge, U.S. shale development and growth is over (Biden policy), and OPEC’s spare capacity is set to be exhausted.

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All of the western leaders just need to keep the average person blaming the Russia-Ukraine crisis for the rising cost of gasoline, and all will be well.

Gas will reach $7/gal.

Putin will be blamed.

Watch:

View: https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1496207991229624325?s=20&t=Mp-FlkgDHHVLAz9wvL8Eaw


Prepare your affairs accordingly.

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Dobbin

Faithful Steed
I don't think the insurance industry has fully weighed in on the EV. Collision and comprehensive costs have to be based on the cost to repair. At this point things like parts and service are unimaginable for these new startup brands. EV owners will be penalized by every aspect of the fire risk, whether it be charging at home, driving, towing or scrapping. The trade in value of an EV with depleted batteries is what? (negative?) Cost of gas is nothing compared to these costs.
This was the difficulty with BOTh the VW Diesel (before its EPA denoument) and the Prius (before it became "just a car" instead of a yuppie symbol.) Parts for these were EXPENSIVE, virtually unobtanium, and repairs could be effected only by those "trained in the trade."

Certain high level luxury cars try to continue the "pizzazz" by doing "unusual" things to their design including absence of an oil drain plug, tires that must be inflated with pure nitrogen and use a special schraeder valve to be sure it happens, computer software that can be read only by "authorized" machines, key-coding/fobs available only from "authorized dealers."

Owner directs his good natured insults at me by claiming I'm a "specialized vehicle" and I require "specialized knowledge available to only a trained few" to operate correctly.

The other end of a hay fork ain't nearly as special as he says.

"You see how special I am?" he says. When it's feeding time I'm all agreement. You're "special."

Dobbin
 

Rabbit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
He can kiss my a**. I wouldnt own an electric car unless it was given to me!
Pretty much, but I do have to say I'm trying to drive my big V8 pickup truck like a Prius. I take my foot off the gas pedal as often as possible.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Bidet is SOOOOO FULL OF BULLSHIT we could fertilize the planet Mars and turn it into an Eden with his hot air and crap! We're having enough issues with our electrical grids across the country now. Where in the hell does he think the electricity to run these ELECTRIC cars is going to come from? THE MOON??!?
 

ssonb

Senior Member
Dont ferget to add in the cost of a total battery pack replacement after about five years...... Approx $20,000. The resale value on EVs is highly dependent on the battery age.
 
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