MORON Biden on High Gas Prices: You Can Save Money if You Buy Electric Cars
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Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
What did I do to you?
If I were stupid enough to broach those two as offerings, it would be on National News
'Memphis IT Professional's Husband Missing....except for some parts in the driveway'
NOT suicidal
Her last 3 rides have been GMC P/Us as I strongly suspect the next 3 will be too. If I get F150 Hybrid, it will be my truck; she'll drive it but it won't be 'hers'.
In which case there's an excellent chance it will be Resale Red w/ Grey leather
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You mean those electric cars that require the unavailable chips? Those electric cars with significant fire risks? Those electric cars with charging time issues that impact distance issues? Those expensive electric cars with significant maintenance issues and costs?
Those electric cars?
Idiot. Every time he opens his mouth he proves to be more foolish.
Those electric cars?
Idiot. Every time he opens his mouth he proves to be more foolish.
AlfaMan
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I've been inspecting a ton of ev's lately. I'm all makes mfgr. Certified for north America. The bolt and leaf outstrip the expensive ev's in terms of build quality. The fit and finish on the leaf is exceptional-as well screwed together as a 100k Maserati. The Bolts since they slowed the production lines down has some of the best quality of any gm vehicle currently. As good as the now discontinued Buick regal (whose build quality made Audis cry in embarrassment).
Profit of Doom
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The local Kaiser has a charging station with some solar cells overhead.
Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
As may well be but if she's getting a new ride ( and she is), it will have a box on the back, be 4WD & (hopefully) diesel
I was close to a used Regal & it was a sweet car but we couldn't come to terms so I'm still in my Jetta TDI
wobble
Veteran Member
Maybe peeps could get a bargain deal if they purchase two?
(I keep reading the title as "Biden high on gas prices..."
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naegling62
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NoDandy
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PghPanther
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I'm lost here..............why are EV even a thing?
1) Mining of minerals for batteries will leave us depleting resources faster and sooner than we do with oil/gas
2) Where do you get them charged..........and how long does it take to charge them?.........you can gas up a car good to be good for another 200-400 miles in a few mins. How long does it take to recharge the battery in the EV and how many miles is that good for?
3) How many rechargers to they get before the battery needs replaced?
4) How green is the manufacturing of batteries and their disposal?
5) How green will it be to replace gas reserves with electrical power grids to recharge all the EVs?
In 2023 the WEC (world endurance championship) with sports prototype racing (Like at Lemans 24 hrs race) have been intensively developing alternative fuels. Including clean burning gas made from recycling of land fill garbage and/or human waste.........and hydrogen cars which fuel can be made from sea water and the only by product is oxygen and clean water..
With ideas being pushing in certain forms of motorsports like this as the laboratory for alterative energy in transportation in the future.......it seems to me like electric is going to be a problem child not a solution in the future. Not to be outdone there is an all electrical F1 racing series known as FE or Formula Electric out there but the WEC is the area that really holds promise to the kind of personal/commercial transportation solution society needs while allowing for responsible human stewardship of the planet.
1) Mining of minerals for batteries will leave us depleting resources faster and sooner than we do with oil/gas
2) Where do you get them charged..........and how long does it take to charge them?.........you can gas up a car good to be good for another 200-400 miles in a few mins. How long does it take to recharge the battery in the EV and how many miles is that good for?
3) How many rechargers to they get before the battery needs replaced?
4) How green is the manufacturing of batteries and their disposal?
5) How green will it be to replace gas reserves with electrical power grids to recharge all the EVs?
In 2023 the WEC (world endurance championship) with sports prototype racing (Like at Lemans 24 hrs race) have been intensively developing alternative fuels. Including clean burning gas made from recycling of land fill garbage and/or human waste.........and hydrogen cars which fuel can be made from sea water and the only by product is oxygen and clean water..
With ideas being pushing in certain forms of motorsports like this as the laboratory for alterative energy in transportation in the future.......it seems to me like electric is going to be a problem child not a solution in the future. Not to be outdone there is an all electrical F1 racing series known as FE or Formula Electric out there but the WEC is the area that really holds promise to the kind of personal/commercial transportation solution society needs while allowing for responsible human stewardship of the planet.
wvstuck
Only worry about what you can control!
Just a little math project for the idiots in Washington, DC:
A new Hummer according to the article is $112,595 dollars
$112,595 at 3.11% interest for 72 months (6 years) is a payment of $1716.00 a month if I don't finance taxes, tags and fees.
at $3.00 a gallon that amount of money would purchase 572 gallons of gas a month.
I currently only use about 160 gallons a month, which is $480 a month for gas.
If I'm bitching about the price of gas now, how do these morons figure I'll save money by buying a new vehicle and adding more $$$'s to my electric bill.
They really don't understand the math average Americans use to calculate a budget... But then we can't just raise our own debt ceiling here either. Money and the concept of money is foreign to mentally challenged politicians (which includes all of them).
A new Hummer according to the article is $112,595 dollars
$112,595 at 3.11% interest for 72 months (6 years) is a payment of $1716.00 a month if I don't finance taxes, tags and fees.
at $3.00 a gallon that amount of money would purchase 572 gallons of gas a month.
I currently only use about 160 gallons a month, which is $480 a month for gas.
If I'm bitching about the price of gas now, how do these morons figure I'll save money by buying a new vehicle and adding more $$$'s to my electric bill.
They really don't understand the math average Americans use to calculate a budget... But then we can't just raise our own debt ceiling here either. Money and the concept of money is foreign to mentally challenged politicians (which includes all of them).
vector7
Dot Collector
JUST IN - Saudi Arabia, Russia consider pausing planned oil production increases after the U.S. and others release crude to push prices lower
View: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1463522911839571973?t=84j5KAx_C4RAkv4TJrBhtQ&s=19
Yeah, but now the USA doesn't have strategic oil reserves for a military emergency
View: https://twitter.com/Chocolate_Lurv/status/1463523333941694472?t=PcGTTodwJyIY2uSReJ0wgQ&s=19
Lmao they be plotting on our downfall
Lol they didn’t have to, US managed to do it themselves
View: https://twitter.com/TradesDyd/status/1463523481585434624?t=DLRiggTCvSijSHmfS2LrMw&s=19
View: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1463522911839571973?t=84j5KAx_C4RAkv4TJrBhtQ&s=19
Yeah, but now the USA doesn't have strategic oil reserves for a military emergency
View: https://twitter.com/Chocolate_Lurv/status/1463523333941694472?t=PcGTTodwJyIY2uSReJ0wgQ&s=19
Lmao they be plotting on our downfall
Lol they didn’t have to, US managed to do it themselves
View: https://twitter.com/TradesDyd/status/1463523481585434624?t=DLRiggTCvSijSHmfS2LrMw&s=19
CaryC
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Saudis, Russians Consider Pausing Oil Production Increases In Retaliation To Biden SPR Release
When commenting on yesterday's SPR release announcement by the Biden admin and several assorted hanger-on nations - which has backfired spectacularly sending the price of oil soaring now that the rumor can no longer be sold so the news has to be bought in line with every single SPR release in the past...
... we said that not only was the release far to smmal, but that in retaliation for the SPR release, "OPEC could easily consider halting its production hikes to offset the detrimental SPR impact of lower oil prices on the needed recovery in global oil capex, likely justifying such action as prudent in the face of COVID demand risks."
Well, fast forward just a few hours when moments ago the WSJ reported that the leaders of OPEC+ and the world's two top oil producers Saudi Arabia and Russia, are considering a pause to their recent efforts to provide the world with more crude, citing to people familiar with those discussions. The move, as expected, is in retaliation to Washington releasing tens of millions of barrels of oil in an effort to lower prices.
As a reminder, OPEC+ is meeting next week to review the long-term deal they reached earlier this year to boost their collective oil output - the deal involves boosting output by 400,000 barrels a day each month through next year, until the group hits its pre-pandemic pumping level and follows a sharp cut in output in 2020 as demand evaporated amid Covid-19 lockdowns.
However, it now appears that OPEC+ may change its mind and not raise output at all; and while Biden is quick to note that oil prices have hovered near multiyear highs, OPEC and other forecasting agencies have struggled to predict demand amid the on-again-off-again nature of Covid-19 restrictions. Several countries in Europe, for instance, are moving ahead with, or considering, fresh restrictions that could sap economic activity—and by extension demand for oil.
Meanwhile, the elephant in the room - the Biden-led crude release of up to 70 million barrels threatens to further scramble the supply-demand balance. As a result, and to compensate for the new supply, the WSJ confirmed our prediction and writes that Riyadh and Moscow are now considering a pause of the group’s monthly collective increase, even as US lackey, UAE - an OPEC member that has clashed with Saudi Arabia over OPEC policy in the past, and Kuwait are resisting a pause. Then again, what Russia and Saudi Arabia want, they will get.
Saudi Arabia sees the released crude as potentially swelling global supply and threatening to reduce prices, according to people familiar with the country’s thinking.
The question then is what will Biden do after a potential escalation in the oil war, and whether the US will halt oil exports in counter-retaliation. Such a move, as Goldman explained yesterday, would lead to a historic surge in oil prices and all hell breaking loose. This is what we said yesterday:
vector7
Dot Collector
'The Five' knock Biden for releasing oil from US reserves (7min)
Nov 23, 2021
View: https://youtu.be/lWdRRedj28w
Nov 23, 2021
energy_wave
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Road salt.
Mary Contrary
Inactive
Sorry, i can't watch his video. I get sick to my stomach every time i see his ugly face or hear him and i want to vomit. I am really hating communists and that's exactly what they are!!!
nomifyle
TB Fanatic
This! There is no way I could ever afford an EV even if I wanted one. And where in the hell would I charge it since I live in the woods. FJB and the horse he rode in on.
Judy
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
This is Joe going "Marie Antoinette in 21st Century". this is exactly the equivalent of "Let them eat cake!" since the cake SHE was talking about was the un-mixed, burned caked flour around the edges of the baking vessels.
By the time this takes hold most here will be driving electric vehicles.
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But it's coming
GM, Ford are all-in on EVs. Here’s how dealers feel about it (cnbc.com)
KEY POINTS
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But it's coming
GM, Ford are all-in on EVs. Here’s how dealers feel about it (cnbc.com)
KEY POINTS
- General Motors is aiming to produce only EVs by 2035, with 30 new plug-in models arriving by 2025, a $27 billion investment.
- Ford, which is investing $22 billion in EVs and announced that 40% of its vehicles will be electrified by 2030, generated excitement with the recent debut of the F-150 Lightning all-electric pickup.
- Many auto dealerships are embracing the electric vehicle transition, but there are concerns about costs to be paid, staff training and impact on lucrative service department business.
vector7
Dot Collector
Approaching 40trillion in debt and they're still running out of everybody else's money.
They will increase it (tax) because electric vehicles do not generate the same tax revenue for roads.
They will add tolls and per mile taxes and track accordingly.
… gas tax revenues do not fully go to support roads etc...
They get spent on other things because of aggressive spending habits. (by Democrats)
View: https://twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1464997640677040132?t=eeCGiSNQtlzrDrnUNJHQ7Q&s=19
They will increase it (tax) because electric vehicles do not generate the same tax revenue for roads.
They will add tolls and per mile taxes and track accordingly.
… gas tax revenues do not fully go to support roads etc...
They get spent on other things because of aggressive spending habits. (by Democrats)
California's Soaring Gas Taxes Aren't Even Going to the Roads | William F. Shughart II, Kristian Fors
$1.3 billion in transportation funds was spent not to build or repair state roads but to finance other programs that were apparently more politically rewarding (i.e., generated more votes) than fixing bridges and filling potholes.
t.co
ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
The really sad thing about Bidet's B.S. is that he's eating his own B.S. and spewing it back out at us. The emperor not only doesn't have new clothes, he also doesn't have a brain!! He's just dancing on a string and his cohort expects everyone to believe all the spittle that dribbles out of his mouth. There's no saving grace for his hyena laughing understudy. Who doesn't have the brains God gave a Piss Ant to back out of a pea pod and slept her way to where she is. Top that off with Pigloosey and ShoeHorn heading up the Demon-O-Craptic party. We have an unholy Trifecta of idiotic lunacy unparalleled in history. How in the Hell did we ever get to this? And the really sad thing is that there is NO ONE in the wings that is any better anywhere on either side. We are so SO screwed it's not even funny.
If these events and people aren't a call to PREP HARD and get ready to BUNKER DOWN for a long long time I don't know what is. It's time to circle the wagons with like minded souls and prepare to repeal all boarders. We're in for some seriously high winds and rough seas. The storm that was on the horizon is here.......and, Winter is coming.
If these events and people aren't a call to PREP HARD and get ready to BUNKER DOWN for a long long time I don't know what is. It's time to circle the wagons with like minded souls and prepare to repeal all boarders. We're in for some seriously high winds and rough seas. The storm that was on the horizon is here.......and, Winter is coming.
Judy, how many miles do you drive on an average day? Do you have normal 110 volt electricity out there in the woods? Do ya’ll have only one vehicle? Just curious. There is a ton of misinformation on this thread.
Oh yeah.
rob0126
Veteran Member
Ah, but an 'immigrant' family with 450k could.
He is an idiot. We all know that so this stupid statement is not a surprise.
I have an attached garage and I would be afraid to park any of the current electric cars in it. Those batteries are unreliable possibly even to the point of being unsafe.
What does he think is used to recharge electric cars? Fairy dust?? Does he have a clue how electricity is generated in this country? Hint -- fossil fuels.
I got into trouble visiting after church today offending several people by saying Biden was an idiot. So worth it.
I have an attached garage and I would be afraid to park any of the current electric cars in it. Those batteries are unreliable possibly even to the point of being unsafe.
What does he think is used to recharge electric cars? Fairy dust?? Does he have a clue how electricity is generated in this country? Hint -- fossil fuels.
I got into trouble visiting after church today offending several people by saying Biden was an idiot. So worth it.
TidesofTruth
Veteran Member
A Supercharge costs about 8.75 per gallon equiv at a charging station. Its only cheaper if you slow charge at home,
PghPanther
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Electric for thee........... but not for me.................
Joe Biden's 67 vette.........
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